I've been trying to find a western sexy female cartoon body and head.

It's one that's a completely unrealistic female form, along the lines of most Warner Brothers females.

I'm looking for proportion within the range of the current Looney Tunes adult females to Minerva the mink. Even a Jessica Rabbit character would be acceptable.

The ideal character would have more curves, smaller waist and large head and "bug"eyes than Aiko or Suzy Q.

The characters I've purchased develop very weird distortions at these extreme body part scaling.

I'm more interested in western cartoon correct proportions than anything else.

Have you tried morphing Minnie or Ginger to suit the proportions you're looking for? (assuming you have Poser 10/ Poser Pro 2014)

This what you're looking for ?

Thanks for the suggesion. I tried "the girl 4" from Daz3d, but her arms struck me as odd, almost monkey like.

The head needs to be about twice as large, which creates strange results, and legs about 50% thinner.

I'll look again at the model though.

Teyon when I try morphing various character I get monsters, for lack of a better description.

I may buy Daz Studio, and try Nata

http://www.daz3d.com/people/nata-for-genesis

The Girl always creeped me out :) Here's my attempt. Legs and arms can be thinner and even with less detail from the A4 morphs. I didn't have any problems with clothes or posing. There's a combination of scaling and moprhs for this and legs can be made longer too. Of course this is in Poser Pro 2012. I'm not sure scaling works well in previous versions. I think it worked in P8 but I'm not sure so that may be an issue.

Forgot to mention that I also use Perfect V4

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/perfect-v4-complete---full-body-fix/94928

Pretty sure that Smay's original version of Nata (a non-genesis Poser stand-alone figure) is still available for download in the the free section of Smay3D.com...

Would think you wouldn't need to do a whole lot but ok...

Wow Kalypso!

Your pictures scared me somehow (in a positive way), if a toon jumped out from the telly to our reality, this is how it would appear, great work.

And its based on V4? Nice....

Yes, Kalypso, I love the uncanny valley and you took us right there. Awesome.

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You inspired me to do a toon-with-realism.

I grabbed Smay's Nata, then revised the shaders. The skin needed some subtle color variation, which I made with a Clouds node. (You almost can't tell it's there, unless I take it away, then you know something's wrong.) I made a procedural bump for skin and lips from Turbulence, and a procedural specularity map, also with Turbulence. Eye shaders are simple but important. Use scatter and Fresnel reflection for realism!!

I didn't like the Nata hair, so I used Poser 6 Jessi_Short_Blonde, which I had to scale and use a magnet on it to make it fit. I changed the hair shader, too because Nata didn't look right as a blonde, IMO.

Lighting is the HDRI Doge 2 HDRI at 3X amplification that I use so much and one infinite light.

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very nice Kalypso.

So you only used these products?

V4
Poser 2012
Perfect V4

Cheers

agree, those by kalypso look alot less creepy than "girl". I like that one by teyon, in case it's available (freebie).

Thanks, it's part of Poser 10/ Pro 2014 so if you have that you have her. Granted, the shoulders and eyes could be a bit better but I think it turned out ok for the time constraints I was under. If nothing else, kingdragonfly may want to use the hair.

Hey thanks all, I had fun making her and will probably be off on a toon tangent these days :)

@kingdragonfly I used V4, Morphs++ and Aiko 4 (just for the head and eyes) But I also scaled down chest, abdomen, hip and thighs on the y axis and to make her taller I can use the Long legs morph. I should have scaled the arms a bit too.

@BB That's an amazing skin shader. I just used a ready-made texture with SSS but now I'm tempted to play around more with the shaders to get a doll-like lustre. Please make these available for EZMat :)

yes, teyon, I got that one "ginger" in Users/Shared/Poser Pro 2014 Content/Runtime/Libraries/Character/Cartoon/Cartoons. they should hire ye at pixar (disney).

p.s. bagginsbill: are those eye shaders with VSS prop? yer render looks great!

correction - no scatter found in VSS ca. 2009. one would use skin shader as on miki4 eyeball, where scatter, fresnel et al. used. cannot post it, due to copyright restrictions.

Thanks, that's awfully nice of you to say.

Quote - You inspired me to do a toon-with-realism.

I grabbed Smay's Nata, then revised the shaders. The skin needed some subtle color variation, which I made with a Clouds node. (You almost can't tell it's there, unless I take it away, then you know something's wrong.) I made a procedural bump for skin and lips from Turbulence, and a procedural specularity map, also with Turbulence. Eye shaders are simple but important. Use scatter and Fresnel reflection for realism!!

I didn't like the Nata hair, so I used Poser 6 Jessi_Short_Blonde, which I had to scale and use a magnet on it to make it fit. I changed the hair shader, too because Nata didn't look right as a blonde, IMO.

Lighting is the HDRI Doge 2 HDRI at 3X amplification that I use so much and one infinite light.

Would love to see the shader set up, especially the eyes! And your light set up, please.

"A lonely climber walks a tightrope to where dreams are born and never die!" - Billy Thorpe, song: Edge of Madness, album: East of Eden's Gate

Weapons of choice:

Poser Pro 2012, SR2, Paintshop Pro 8

Let's start with the stage and global lighting.

I used browns on the stage to make the reflected light warm and subdued and as a background I wanted contrast with the figure. You can see the ground reflected color under her chin.

The environment sphere has the Doge 2 HDR on it with with its value at 3 times the image brightness.

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I had the "Sun" set like this. I used a node to subdue the diffuse part to 85% intensity. This is because my Doge 2 sky is very white and produces a lot of diffuse light. I still wanted the sun for a good specular highlight, so this made a better balance. The overall infinite light intensity is 80%.

I did not arrive at these numbers through genius, nor endless trial and error. I used the light meter by itself on the stage, then added the figure.

Workflow matters.

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Here is the skin shader. It's basically the same as the S+B that I originally posted when Scatter first came out, and that got incorporated into EZSkin. But I made a couple additions and changes.

First the color map goes into a pink clouds node to modulate the skin in a more realistic way. Then I used an HSV to darken it to 80%.

The scatter scale I adjusted to 1.6 because that looked pleasing to me - no other logic to it.

The turbulence on the lower right is doing the specular value modulation, and the turbulence on the lower left is doing the bump map. I adjusted the scales and intensities on these to produce a fine skin texture.

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This is the lip shader. The principle differences are:

* the Turbulence for bump - it has a large Y scale so it makes vertical wrinkles.

the Blinn is set for a sharp, intense highlight very different from the skin

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Here is the iris (radujka) shader. I'm not sure why you guys want to see this. It's basic Poser scatter stuff which you should be totally familiar with by now. You should be able to do this in your sleep. If you can't, start practicing on little props until you know every parameter and what it's going to do before you do it.

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Here is the eyewhite (belok) or sclera shader.

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This is perhaps the only bit of cleverness in the eyes - the eye cover (rogovica) shader.

This is a basic Fresnel transparency + reflection shader, but I tweaked it to be more intense in an unrealistic way. The IOR is too high, and I jammed an extra .03 into the Fresnel_Blend Inner_Color. That parameter is usually set to 0 or black.

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Here's the hair shader. The colors are:

Root = 33, 23, 17

Tip = 70, 61, 28

Specular = 142, 142, 142

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Here's an earlier test shot before the final skin texture tweaking.

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Even though I wasn't going to do back or rim lighting, I always check it to make sure I haven't done something weird. Bump is revealed with clarity when you do this.

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Testing the placement of the cloud features using black, not pink. For speed, this did not use IDL or scatter or shadows, and I aborted it once I saw what I wanted to see.

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I can't think of anything else worth mentioning, but I take a lot for granted, so if you have questions, come back.

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thx fr shaders, bill. usrs may find freebie nata at http://www.smay3d.com/

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Subject: Cartoon body