EClark1894 opened this issue on Apr 05, 2014 · 104 posts
EClark1894 posted Sat, 05 April 2014 at 3:23 PM
RorrKonn posted Sat, 05 April 2014 at 4:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=blender+node+editor
some times a small patterns just messes with the TV , PC and ya get odd patterns from it.
Could be a bad UVMap.
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pumeco posted Sat, 05 April 2014 at 5:07 PM
This won't help, but in Bryce there's a feature called "Distance Blur", it's used so that you don't get a flickering effect in the distance on repeating patterns such as this. I don't know how Poser handles it but it could be that looking in the materials will not give the answer.
If it's anything like Bryce, it's a render thing, not a material thing.
pumeco posted Sat, 05 April 2014 at 5:09 PM
PS: Looks good, and nice pose, just don't tell "you know who" I said that :-P
WandW posted Sat, 05 April 2014 at 5:25 PM
You mean besides getting pumeco's thread deleted? :lol:
Try changing the texture filtering; is it at Crisp?
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EClark1894 posted Sat, 05 April 2014 at 6:15 PM
Quote - You mean besides getting pumeco's thread deleted? :lol:
Try changing the texture filtering; is it at Crisp?
Hey, that wasn't my fault! I even said right there in the thread that we were just having fun. C'mon, I'm not gonna get upset with a 3D figure. Seriously, who in there right mind would--, um... I mean... see now you're trying to get me in trouble.
moriador posted Sat, 05 April 2014 at 6:22 PM
It looks like moire. You get it in photographs, too.
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WandW posted Sat, 05 April 2014 at 6:29 PM
Quote -
Hey, that wasn't my fault! I even said right there in the thread that we were just having fun. C'mon, I'm not gonna get upset with a 3D figure. Seriously, who in there right mind would--, um... I mean... see now you're trying to get me in trouble.No, I'm just telling you to try changing your texture fitering; is it at Crisp?
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EClark1894 posted Sat, 05 April 2014 at 6:52 PM
Quote - > Quote -
Hey, that wasn't my fault! I even said right there in the thread that we were just having fun. C'mon, I'm not gonna get upset with a 3D figure. Seriously, who in there right mind would--, um... I mean... see now you're trying to get me in trouble.
No, I'm just telling you to try changing your texture fitering; is it at Crisp?
Oh, sorry!
But no, it's a 2D Weave node, so there's no texture filter.
EClark1894 posted Sat, 05 April 2014 at 6:58 PM
Does look a bit better.
RorrKonn posted Sat, 05 April 2014 at 10:59 PM
I never knew it had a name "moire"
ya fix stuff like this buy proses of elimination
if it's moire. ya need a bigger pattern.
So ya test with a bigger pattern
if it's texture filtering. the crisp thing.
if it's the map
uv maps texture
If ya put a uvmap texture on ya mesh it will show about the uv map.
all the colored & #'s square's alt to be same size "ALL SAME SIZE"
squares not rectangles but "SQUARES".
I can't map at all not even a cube ,so I cheat ;)
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vilters posted Sun, 06 April 2014 at 3:26 AM
The Weave node is extremely sensible to moiré.
Texture filtering will not help, as it is a procedural shader setup.
Only reducing the number of weaves to just below the moiré limit will solve this.
But?
Moiré is also sensible to distance of view, light and camera angle. There are no simple solutions. Trial and error untill you get out of the moiré zone.
Or? Replace the weave node by a texture.
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EClark1894 posted Sun, 06 April 2014 at 4:00 AM
If it's really just a camera issue then I'm going to leave it alone. However, I may also investigate making a texture for it.
EClark1894 posted Sun, 06 April 2014 at 7:06 AM
vilters posted Sun, 06 April 2014 at 7:28 AM
You are torturing our girl....
PS ; Moiré on the left shin.
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EClark1894 posted Sun, 06 April 2014 at 7:37 AM
pumeco posted Sun, 06 April 2014 at 4:43 PM
Did you try bumping-up the value of the "Min Shading Rate" control in the Render Options?
Seriously, try it.
Like I said, this is probably a render thing, not a material thing. It's no different to what happens in the real world when we take a photo with a digital camera. We get exactly the same moire if we point a digital camera at fine detail like that.
Does that mean real world leggings material has moire just because our camera recorded it?
Of course not, it's still as perfect as ever to our eyes so it means our camera must be to blame, or in your case, your Poser camera which is governed by the render settings. In Poser, the way to soften the ailiasing filter appears to be to give a higher value to the Shading Rate. It forces the camera not to be so picky about detail, so that will likely cure the moire.
Higher numbers mean less detail, so surely less moire ;-)
You're legging material is as perfect as you want it to be, you're struggling with it for nothing because that same material will look different in everyones render depending on their Shading Rate.
It's a sensitive setting BTW, so don't go wild with it.
joequick posted Sun, 06 April 2014 at 5:55 PM
I've got a couple of people in this thread on block, so forgive me if they've already pointed this out. But given that the issue is happening in the same place all of the time regardless of camera angle or distance, it looks as if the issue might be occuring based on seams and not moire.
pumeco posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 1:50 PM
QUOTE:***
"I've got a couple of people in this thread on block..."
No prizes for guessing I'll be one of them!
Actually, I'm curious so let me check to see if I get a response from him :biggrin:
Hey Joe, nice day - :tt2: :tt2: :tt2:
No prizes for guessing Vilters must be the other one :lol:
So yeah, wassup, can I try as well?
No, you can't, back to your Runtime.
Yeah, listen, like I take orders from peeps!!!
You do if you want feeding tonight.
Listen, like I ...
Quiet, or I'll give your Cheeseburger to Vicky.
Has it got Jalepino Peppers on it?
Yup, lots and lots of burning-hot Jalepino Peppers, your fave topping!!!
Yeah ... well ... suppose I could take orders just this once, but it's only because I decided to accept, it's not because you told me to. Just as long as you understand what I'm saying here.
Later,***
Roxie - Girl With Blade
Miss Nancy posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 2:12 PM
is true that poser weave node causes moire fx. maybe some way to get softness, turbo or noise as in tile, which can sometimes fake weave look.
joequick posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 2:17 PM
Quote - ***
QUOTE:***
"I've got a couple of people in this thread on block..."No prizes for guessing I'll be one of them!
Actually, I'm curious so let me check to see if I get a response from him :biggrin:Hey Joe, nice day - :tt2: :tt2: :tt2:
No prizes for guessing Vilters must be the other one :lol:
So yeah, wassup, can I try as well?
No, you can't, back to your Runtime.Yeah, listen, like I take orders from peeps!!!
You do if you want feeding tonight.Listen, like I ...
Quiet, or I'll give your Cheeseburger to Vicky.Has it got Jalepino Peppers on it?
Yup, lots and lots of burning-hot Jalepino Peppers, your fave topping!!!Yeah ... well ... suppose I could take orders just this once, but it's only because I decided to accept, it's not because you told me to. Just as long as you understand what I'm saying here.
Later,***
Roxie - Girl With Blade
pumeco posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 2:21 PM
WTF, it wasn't me!!! :woot: :woot: :woot:
moriador posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 2:36 PM
And I have everyone blocked! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!
(Except Joe Quick -- because I bought his mouse, and that critter is adorable. If he's blocked me, I shall be heartbroken!)
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Miss Nancy posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 2:40 PM
yeah, quick's duck is fab IMVHO!
EClark1894 posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 2:54 PM
pumeco posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 2:56 PM
Yeah, very funny, Roxie!
(I just heard the theme from Twilight Zone coming from her Runtime) :lol:
pumeco posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 3:20 PM
So yeah, if moriador got blocked she must be pretty badass!
And I was thinking, I might even let her hang with me next time I'm out on one of my midnight Vickie-culling trips. If she likes mice I know just the place, it's a secret underground tunnel I use so that no one sees me, and it's got lots and lots of mice and rats in it - it's really cool!
Later,
***Roxie - Girl With Blade
moriador posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 3:27 PM
Hah, being blocked is cool, now? Sweet!
I think I was a rat in my last life. In the longest D&D campaign that I ever participated in (lasted over 2 years), I played a Skaven called Sk8. I pulled the tattoo that I want (also a Skaven) out of an old 2nd Edition Monster Manual. Still haven't got the tattoo, but I will...
Secret underground tunnels sound like just my kinda place.
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EClark1894 posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 3:44 PM
pumeco posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 3:52 PM
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@moriador**
Between you and me I think anything from the norm attracts her. She hates conformists and always gets attracted to the underdog, people who go against the flow, and those she thinks are being taken advantage of.
People think she's heartless, but actually, nothing could be further from the truth and I think she has more heart than they ever will. I happen to know she goes through the waste of fast-food stores and takes it to the stray dogs that live in the tunnels.
Anyway, what does D&D mean?
@Clarkie
I'm beginning to think there might be three people in here on block, I've posted twice about the moire and you haven't said a bloody thing!
Did it work?
joequick posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 5:09 PM
Quote - Is that supposed to be Howard the Duck?
It could be any duck from that archtypal mold.
Is the moire appearing on the uv seams?
EClark1894 posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 5:28 PM
RorrKonn posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 5:51 PM
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pumeco posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 6:37 PM
That was a big help mate, there's like 5 million results :biggrin:
pumeco posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 6:38 PM
OMG, Clarkie has me on block!!! :scared:
Roxie, see what you've done?
Yeah right, you idiot, like he's gonna put you on block when I use the same account for posting as you do. If he blocks you he blocks me as well. He could be jealous because you own all rights to "Roxie - Girl With Blade". You haven't pointed that out BTW, so get on with it or he might try to claim me for himself, and so might Vilters.
Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade
*The "Roxie - Girl With Blade" Name and Character are Trademarks of Pumeco. Any unauthorized use of the Name or Character will get you prosecuted. Film rights and other money making stuff can be discussed by sending a message to Pumeco, so be prepared to offer a few million and we're talking business.
There, how's that?
Yeah, it's not bad, but I would have put more emphasis on the consequences. Can't be too careful about these things when you're discussing people as famous as I'm going to be. Victoria might be famous, but I will be more famous than her.
Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade
EClark1894 posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 7:22 PM
EClark1894 posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 10:01 PM
EClark1894 posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 10:12 PM
EClark1894 posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 10:14 PM
RorrKonn posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 11:43 PM
now I'm starting to think EClark1894 has me on ignore.
& I thought we where friends :crying:
Where's it say who has you on ignore ?
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EClark1894 posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 2:09 AM
Quote - now I'm starting to think EClark1894 has me on ignore.
& I thought we where friends :crying:Where's it say who has you on ignore ?
Not yet. Joe was just the last person to mention UVs after I had tried all those fixes. And the UV test grid and I have never been friends. This was the first time I'd ever gotten the damn thing to work.
moriador posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 2:18 AM
Quote - The moire returns. But I'm pretty sure that this is an optical moire. Not part of the UV Mapping.
Yep. If the moire changes when you change focal distance, it's optical. This might be one of those instances where an actual tiling texture will serve better.
The legwarmers do look good, though.
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moriador posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 2:24 AM
Quote -
That was a big help mate, there's like 5 million results :biggrin:
LOLOL.
D&D. Dungeons and Dragons. Tabletop RPG. Earliest version came out in the '70s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons
I thought everyone knew. Maybe it's just we Canadians who are mad for it. Long, harsh winters and so on. :P
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EClark1894 posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 7:10 AM
Quote - > Quote - The moire returns. But I'm pretty sure that this is an optical moire. Not part of the UV Mapping.
Yep. If the moire changes when you change focal distance, it's optical. This might be one of those instances where an actual tiling texture will serve better.
The legwarmers do look good, though.
So... NOW you're saying you'd rather have a texture?
WandW posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 7:56 AM
You can make a texture with that shader on a plane...
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pumeco posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 8:11 AM
QUOTE:
"BTW, did Shane ever explain the disappearing Roxie thread?"
Yup, and don't worry, it had nothing to do with you or even vilters :-)
It was mainly due to Roxie and that intense mouth of hers.
Yeah right, listen, that's what the dude told you but I know a different story. What really happened is he waited it out until he saw me in the thread and then pulled it so that he could take me along with it!
It's me the dude wanted, not the thread.
He's been trying to impress me, showing me his new moderators quarters, Plasma TV, leather sofa, stuff like that. He showed me the bedroom, started doing Arnie poses and flexing his muscles.
Then he started swigning from the lightshade like a monkey.
Then he slipped off and landed on his head, so I left.
Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade
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**@RorrKonn
**Don't want to worry you mate, but Roxie just asked about you. I think it's the avatar and the fact you might be blocked, she keeps saying how badass that must be :-P
@moriador
Colour me embarrased 
I've heard of Dungeons&Dragons but to be honest I've never played it. The only games I ever got into was on the Atari 2600 (the pointed version) when I was a kid, I was absolutely addicted to that thing!
My favouriote game for it was called "Joust", damn I miss playing that!
But then I got interested in synthesizers and audio and it drew my interest away from gaming. Boring I know but that's just the way it went for me. I get my gaming fixes and curiosity fixed by watching what other users upload to YouTube. I like to grab a coffee and watch others gaming.
EClark1894 posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 8:32 AM
I had a version of Joust on my Mac once, years ago. I was trying to learn C++ for gaming, and that was one of the games that came with the software.
My faviorite game was "Spectre tank".
EClark1894 posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 8:34 AM
Quote - You can make a texture with that shader on a plane...
Hey, Thanks, W&W. That never occurred to me.
pumeco posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 9:11 AM
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@Clarkie**
The reason you're surprised about the distance from the camera effecting the moire is because you've not listened to a word I said. It's not your materials that's causing the moire, it's the way they're being rendered.
Repeating patterns will always cause moire but it's not the materials fault you see it. No matter what you do the user is going to have that issue in their render unless they adjust their shading rate to compensate. To render such things you have to decide on your camera position, then fiddle around with the shading rate until you get a moire free result or something acceptable to you.
But move the camera and it'll need tweaking again.
Regards Joust, I didn't know it was available on anything else, I thought it was strictly one of those cartridge affairs for the Atari console. But yup, I thought Joust was a seriously addictive game, and even more so in two player mode.
I'm surprised the game controllers never packed up, those sticks used to get some major force on them with that game. To look at it, a person would never guess how it can be addictive, but playing it is a different matter.
[**Click to see the version I had
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EClark1894 posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 10:23 AM
moriador posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 11:52 AM
Quote - @moriadorColour me embarrased
I've heard of Dungeons&Dragons but to be honest I've never played it. The only games I ever got into was on the Atari 2600 (the pointed version) when I was a kid, I was absolutely addicted to that thing!
My favouriote game for it was called "Joust", damn I miss playing that!
But then I got interested in synthesizers and audio and it drew my interest away from gaming. Boring I know but that's just the way it went for me. I get my gaming fixes and curiosity fixed by watching what other users upload to YouTube. I like to grab a coffee and watch others gaming.
Sorry, but I'm afraid you'll just have to give up your geek card now. :P
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pumeco posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 1:52 PM
No way I'm giving-up my Geek Card, I still record to tape in 2014, right Roxie?
***Yeah, and listen, I have a proper tape Walkman that pumeco gave me, it's just way cooler than those shitty MP3 players the conformist crowd use.
***When I listen to Trance, it sounds proper solid!!!
Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade
moriador posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 2:08 PM
Quote -
No way I'm giving-up my Geek Card, I still record to tape in 2014, right Roxie?***Yeah, and listen, I have a proper tape Walkman that pumeco gave me, it's just way cooler than those shitty MP3 players the conformist crowd use.
***When I listen to Trance, it sounds proper solid!!!
Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade
I'm not selling liquor. I'm not asking you to hand over proof of your age, man. :D :D :D
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pumeco posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 2:56 PM
Hah, I'm still a young whipper-snapper, I use analogue tape because I care about my audio!
Hey Roxie, I think her reply suggests Moriador is one of the conformists, what do you reckon?
Yeah, and I thought she was way cooler than that. I mean, you only have to sit next to someone with an MP3 player and pull-out a real Walkman to see the envy on their faces. They start asking weird stuff like "what are those shiny brushed-metal wheels spinning for?" and "can I have a listen?" - stuff like that.
*The questions are always followed by:
"Holy f'ing shit!!!"
"Wanna swap?"
"I'll pay in kind, just say the word!!!"
Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade - (and solid beats as well).**
**Well said, Roxie, I'm impressed but we'd better hand Clarkie his thread back before he blocks us!
moriador posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 3:24 PM
Quote -
Hah, I'm still a young whipper-snapper, I use analogue tape because I care about my audio!
Hey Roxie, I think her reply suggests Moriador is one of the conformists, what do you reckon?Yeah, and I thought she was way cooler than that. I mean, you only have to sit next to someone with an MP3 player and pull-out a real Walkman to see the envy on their faces. They start asking weird stuff like "what are those shiny brushed-metal wheels spinning for?" and "can I have a listen?" - stuff like that.
*The questions are always followed by:
"Holy f'ing shit!!!"
"Wanna swap?"
"I'll pay in kind, just say the word!!!"Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade - (and solid beats as well).**
**Well said, Roxie, I'm impressed but we'd better hand Clarkie his thread back before he blocks us!
Well, I'm so old school that I still have a landline.
Now if I could just find that old AT&T rotary phone, it'd be just fabs.
Edit: Oops
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EClark1894 posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 5:16 PM
Thanks W &W for the tip.
RorrKonn posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 5:29 PM
Quote - > Quote - now I'm starting to think EClark1894 has me on ignore.
& I thought we where friends :crying:
Where's it say who has you on ignore ?
Not yet. Joe was just the last person to mention UVs after I had tried all those fixes. And the UV test grid and I have never been friends. This was the first time I'd ever gotten the damn thing to work.
If you want to play the game to win you half to make friends with all the tools.
& embrace the obscured ,abandon reasoning.
Exist beyond the realm on insanity to where you can all most touch magic.
War endlessly to beat the mesh in to Magnificence before the mesh drives you to madness.
Easy Enough ;)
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RorrKonn posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 5:36 PM
Quote - I think I finally got it right this time. I abandoned the shader on the legwarmers, but used it on a plane instead. Made the plane a texture, then added that to the leg warmers. No more moire.
Thanks W &W for the tip.
Looks good
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EClark1894 posted Sat, 12 April 2014 at 2:56 AM
Okay, I'm giving up. I hate to do it but I admit defeat. I can't quite figure out how to do a decent tutu for Roxie, so if someone else can do it, go for it. I will release the leotards and leg warmers for both Roxy and Miki 4, but I'm sorry about the tutu. Maybe inspiration will hit me and I'll figure it out, and maybe release it as a freebie for the dance outfit, but for now... I'm done.
RorrKonn posted Sat, 12 April 2014 at 7:43 AM
Quote - Okay, I'm giving up. I hate to do it but I admit defeat. I can't quite figure out how to do a decent tutu for Roxie, so if someone else can do it, go for it. I will release the leotards and leg warmers for both Roxy and Miki 4, but I'm sorry about the tutu. Maybe inspiration will hit me and I'll figure it out, and maybe release it as a freebie for the dance outfit, but for now... I'm done.
I like her better as a street dancer.
Who cares about some out dated 17th century ugly tutu's anyways.
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pumeco posted Sat, 12 April 2014 at 7:53 AM
So yeah, get a move on with my leotard, I have use for it.
Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade
EClark1894 posted Sat, 12 April 2014 at 4:57 PM
EClark1894 posted Sat, 12 April 2014 at 7:41 PM
pumeco posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 4:54 AM
That looks really good, Carkie, nice light as well :-)
And I wouldn't take too much notice of Roxie with the blade, it's just the way she is, and between you and me I think she's gagging for that leotard so that she can tease the men (and women) with it!
Plus, I think she misses you as a tailor. She keeps checking what Clarkie and Vilters are doing to make sure you're not being unfaithful to her.
EClark1894 posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 5:48 AM
EClark1894 posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 5:50 AM
moriador posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 8:32 AM
Quote - Okay, so I couldn't do the tutu as I wanted, but I was able to do this dynamic wrap skirt for Roxie to wear around her leotard. I still have a bit of refinement to do on it, and then I have to convert it for Miki 4.
That's awesome. And a piece like that would be a great introduction to dynamic clothing for someone who'd never tried it before. The leotard is lovely too. Fits Roxie like a glove.
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pumeco posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 10:24 AM
***Yeah, it's not bad, I'll have use for that, but I don't know why you bother with Rex, he's creepy as hell, he hangs around the Runtime with a constant erection. And if you don't believe me, just add him and his gens to your viewport and see for yourself, see what happens.
***The dude don't need pants, he needs cooling pills!!!
Later,***
Roxie - Girl With Blade
moriador posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 10:56 AM
Quote -
***Yeah, it's not bad, I'll have use for that, but I don't know why you bother with Rex, he's creepy as hell, he hangs around the Runtime with a constant erection. And if you don't believe me, just add him and his gens to your viewport and see for yourself, see what happens.
***The dude don't need pants, he needs cooling pills!!!
Later,***
Roxie - Girl With Blade
Well, how many naked girls have you got in your runtime?
Besides, if he normally loads without gens, what do you expect him to do if you add them? There's only there for one reason, right? :D
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pumeco posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 11:47 AM
Yeah, there's lots and lots of naked girls here in the Runtime, but that's not the point!
I mean, I suppose he has his uses, like instant gratification for the women without even having to touch his excitement dial. But he's like that all the time here in the Runtime, and his room is right next door to mine, it's creepy as hell!!!
Listen, when I first met the dude I thought he was just pleased to see me. But then I noticed he was still excited while eating his lunch. I even caught him going through the the Primitives Room here in the Runtime and he was still excited just by looking at the Torus!
I mean, why on earth would the dude be excited by a Torus?
Yeah, never mind, I just realised ... I'll have to hide the Torus from him!!!
Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade
EClark1894 posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 12:30 PM
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Listen, when I first met the dude I thought he was just pleased to see me. But then I noticed he was still excited while eating his lunch. I even caught him going through the the Primitives Room here in the Runtime and he was still excited just by looking at the Torus!
I mean, why on earth would the dude be excited by a Torus?
Yeah, never mind, I just realised ... I'll have to hide the Torus from him!!!
Says the girl who was in there looking for a cylinder...
pumeco posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 5:06 PM
Yeah, listen, it was an elongated Sphere and it's not what you think!!!
Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade
moriador posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 5:07 PM
Cylinder? Ouch. I hope it's a morphing one with rounded edges.
So is this the new Poser pick-up meme? Hey, baby, nice primitives!
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pumeco posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 5:20 PM
You just crossposted, it was not a Cylinder, it was an Elongated Sphere and it's not what you think!!!
I only took it and stretched it so that I could use it as something to shove in Vickies mouth to stop her screaming while I kidnapped her! If you think I've got a mouth on me, you should hear Vickie scream when she's grabbed unexpectedly in the dark!!!
Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade
RorrKonn posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 9:11 PM
pumeco the "Roxie - Girl With Blade"
"Girl with Blade" what is that supposed to mean ?
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pumeco posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 5:02 AM
You're a brave guy, RorrKonn. Whenever you see the green coloured text it is "Roxie - Girl With Blade" taking over my account and typing whatever she likes.
Roxie - Girl With Blade, is a deviant Roxie, she has a much darker soul than all the other Roxies and she lives solely in my Runtime. She wants me to make her famous and distribute her as a character, but she has some hopes considering nothing seems to work!
At the moment she looks pretty much like a vanilla Roxie, and the blade she carries is one she stole from the Poser Runtime. But if I can get around the issues with Poser, she'll get her very own, very nasty blade - and a whole new look to go with it.
Yeah, listen, like you have a choice?
If Clark can sell this stuff, so can you, and you better if you value your head!!!
Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade
EClark1894 posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 7:38 AM
pumeco posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 8:00 AM
Must admit "Roxie The Ripper" sounds good, but I prefer "Roxie - Girl With Blade" for the vision I have of her.
Anyway, best of luck with your Roxie stuff, and actually, I had no idea you were planning on selling it. If I'd known, I'd have risked my life a little more and told the one with the blade to watch her mouth a bit!
EClark1894 posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 8:16 AM
Well, I could still just give the stuff away as a freebie, but I had to work to get into CP as a vendor, so i need products to sell. Besides i have four pages of freestuff for Roxie, Rex, Anastasia, Miki4, etc. Plus, being a vendor does several things that just givng stuff away can't do for you. Plus, it raises Roxie's profile a bit having CP support her.
Also, Roxie will never have as many clothes and things as V4, but she might be able to pass other figures like Stephanie3, Luke3, Sadie, and Apollo.
toastie posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 8:30 AM
Pity about the tutu. What went wrong? But at least most sets have the tutu as a separate piece and easy enough to scale to fit Roxie or Miki4.
(Don't forget to fix the shoes though! 
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pumeco posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 8:33 AM
I think my own goals weren't too different from yours.
It would be nice to earn money from vending stuff but I know that's not a reality for me or in fact most people. The way I saw it was so that I could get an idea of how the whole vending thing works and any money I earn is just a bonus. Even if I only sold one per month thats still one per month I wouldn't have sold if I'd not tried, and at least I'd have got a taste of vending in the meantime.
I'm glad you chose to sell this, vilters should do the same with some of his stuff.
Best of luck with it :-)
EClark1894 posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 9:58 AM
Well, I wasn't making any money making freebies either so the only thing that's really changed is that as a vendor I have to step up my game as far as producing quality stuff.
Toastie:
I just felt that I don't have the skills required (yet) to do the tutu right, so rather than just put out crap, I'll wait until I can do it right.
RorrKonn posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 10:54 AM
pumeco :I realize what a hypocrite I am talking about English and grammar ,being I never passed a English class.
but the statement would be clearer if ya said "Girl With a Blade".
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pumeco posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 10:59 AM
Done proper, you're right, but it just ain't hip enough mate!
Too much of a mouthful if you say it like that :biggrin:
RorrKonn posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 1:42 PM
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Done proper, you're right, but it just ain't hip enough mate!
Too much of a mouthful if you say it like that :biggrin:
My apologize for my sheer lack of hipness.
since I'm nearly as old as time ,my hipness must of gotten buried under centuries of dirt.
RorrKonn goes and looks for a shovel.
What ever became of your drawings pumeco ?
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pumeco posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 1:58 PM
Drawings?
RorrKonn posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 2:51 PM
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Drawings?
The Statuesque or Down to earth...? Thread ,I took it ya was going to do some drawings.
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pumeco posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 3:02 PM
No, haven't drawn for years mate.
Like I said though, I miss it a heck of a lot. I think I still have a bunch of drawings I did as a teen, somewhere in the attic, but they're nothing like the stuff I would like to be able to do (stuff like you posted).
Must be awesome to do stuff like Bisley etc. Once I have a place sorted, I'll have to knock-up a nice big drawing-board for myself. Wouldn't mind trying airbrushing as well, never done that and I like the look it gives.
RorrKonn posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 4:12 PM
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No, haven't drawn for years mate.Like I said though, I miss it a heck of a lot. I think I still have a bunch of drawings I did as a teen, somewhere in the attic, but they're nothing like the stuff I would like to be able to do (stuff like you posted).
Must be awesome to do stuff like Bisley etc. Once I have a place sorted, I'll have to knock-up a nice big drawing-board for myself. Wouldn't mind trying airbrushing as well, never done that and I like the look it gives.
1/2 the time I'm drawing with a around $2.00 pencil
& a around $5.00. 23cm x 30cm drawing pad from walmart or staples .
Just practice a lot & your get better then all of us.
Air Brush look Rocks ,Ya can get a Air Brush look out of gimp.
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pumeco posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 5:23 PM
I just looked at your gallery, why don't you scan and upload your pencil stuff?
BTW, I'll have to point that poem and artwork of yours out to Roxie!
She's as mad as a bull on crack, but she does appreciate a good artistic verse.
RorrKonn posted Tue, 15 April 2014 at 2:10 AM
all of those are scanned pencil ,pencil & pen drawings.
diamonds and rust was a acrylic painting.
I've modified all of them with 2D app's n plugs.
Desolation is one I done for a girl that got in deep with drugs.
Tell Roxie thanks for liking the Art n Poems.
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pumeco posted Tue, 15 April 2014 at 7:59 AM
She hasn't seen it yet, but she will as soon as she wakes up ;-)
Very cool, I like that 'out-of-the-dark' stuff. I still have my Staedtler Mars Lumograph pencils, they're awesome, and the softest in the set, the 8B, is an amazing pencil for getting deeeeeeeeep blacks. Really amazing for graphite, it looks more like charcoal it's so black.
If you like doing dark backgrounds you should definitely buy a set of Staedtler Mars Lumograph (just in case you haven't tried them), even the smaller set has the 8B in it and there's a few set sizes out there.
Anyway, I'd better shut-up or the thread will go OT again. No doubt Roxie will come along and say something though, just as soon as she's awake. She got back just gone 3:00AM so no doubt a lot of Vickie culling went on last night!
pumeco posted Tue, 15 April 2014 at 8:08 AM
Out of curiosity I just looked on Amazon and found this set. That price must be half the price I paid for my slightly larger set many years ago. Only the design on the tin has changed and the font on the pencils, but that's an awesome set of pencils (and includes that amazing 8B):
Click for Staedtler Mars Lumograph
Anyway, back on topic ...
RorrKonn posted Tue, 15 April 2014 at 9:35 AM
desolation was drawn setting at a restaurant table on printer paper using a waitress pen.
had a waitress scan me a copy as ya can see she cliped the right side but thats ok.
didn't sign it so the girl i gave it to couldn't sell it.
i know it suxs as a drawing but it got to the girl i gave it to ,at lest for a little while.
any & all art suplys ,tech stuff also .i've had at one time or the other.
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pumeco posted Tue, 15 April 2014 at 10:06 AM
I like the drawing, and a background to where and why it exists 
Did it work on her, the reason you drew it, did she sort herself out?
Oh, and look who's waken ...
So yeah, wassup?
Listen, that's a cool poem dude, and the artwork rocks as well! That girl sounds a bit messed-up though, I hope ur message got though to her in time to stop Grim Reaper paying a visit. I mean, Grim Reaper is a cool dude and all, but if he visits when you don't want it, it can be a problem!!!
Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade
RorrKonn posted Tue, 15 April 2014 at 5:44 PM
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I like the drawing, and a background to where and why it exists
Did it work on her, the reason you drew it, did she sort herself out?Oh, and look who's waken ...
So yeah, wassup?
Listen, that's a cool poem dude, and the artwork rocks as well! That girl sounds a bit messed-up though, I hope ur message got though to her in time to stop Grim Reaper paying a visit. I mean, Grim Reaper is a cool dude and all, but if he visits when you don't want it, it can be a problem!!!
Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade
She finaly ,to get away from it all she left town and went back home.
I don't know what became of her.
Being I never saw her back in town or never herd any thing about her.
I take it as a good sign.
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EClark1894 posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 6:58 AM
pumeco posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 7:20 AM
You're quite right, Clarkie, quite right
That said, I've just been watching your posts in various threads and you're clearly a bit pissed off about something today, not your usual self.
Would you like a free therapy session with Roxie when she gets back from her visit to Belgium? :woot:
pumeco posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 11:16 AM
I'll tell her no then :lol:
EClark1894 posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 12:40 PM
pumeco posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 1:02 PM
lol
moriador posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 2:58 PM
Quote - Of course, I'm pissed off! It's the day after tax day in the U.S.
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pumeco posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 4:05 PM
Those two blokes are going to get labelled for looking at Earl's backside like that!
moriador posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 4:33 PM
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Those two blokes are going to get labelled for looking at Earl's backside like that!
LOLOL. Nah. The rules are different for doctors. They "admire" all sorts of disgusting stuff (just browse a dermatology or parasitology site). It's only if they find the backside appealing that they get labelled.
I don't mean to imply that EC's behind is disgusting or anything. But "tax pain" is not a pretty or aesthetically pleasing affliction. I'm sure he'll recover soon enough, though. :)
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