Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Potential chain mail?

Winterclaw opened this issue on Apr 13, 2014 · 14 posts


Winterclaw posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 11:17 PM

I know it's not prefect, but would something like this have potential for being chain mail?

WARK!

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(using Poser Pro 2014 SR3, on 64 bit Win 7, poser units are inches.)


Winterclaw posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 11:28 PM

Here's another version, but brighter.

WARK!

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(using Poser Pro 2014 SR3, on 64 bit Win 7, poser units are inches.)


JimTS posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 11:35 PM

Now invert your bump map and hook that to your transparency node

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So is that TTFN or TANSTAAFL?


bagginsbill posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 8:00 AM

Not really. Chain mail is made of rings, while this weave is a continuous line.

I posted a chain mail freebie in this thread.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2846423


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bagginsbill posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 8:06 AM

ThetaGraphics made this image with the shader in that thread.


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Winterclaw posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 9:48 AM

Yep, that looks about right.

WARK!

Thus Spoketh Winterclaw: a blog about a Winterclaw who speaks from time to time.

 

(using Poser Pro 2014 SR3, on 64 bit Win 7, poser units are inches.)


seachnasaigh posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 10:48 AM

     I think your idea is nonetheless worth pursuing, Winterclaw.  While not historically/technically "correct" for chain mail, it would still make an interesting and useful "flexible" armor, perhaps an elvish work (wrought in BB's mithril), or a sci-fi underlayment made of composite/carbon fiber.

     If applied to a garment, I'd make the interstitial spaces transparent;  if applied as a second skin, use the alpha as a discriminator and make the interstitial spaces look like underlying cloth.

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pumeco posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 10:53 AM

Wow, that's a nice looking suit, ThetaGraphics!


Miss Nancy posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 2:16 PM

wint, if ya don't like bill's shader, yours might work better with tile node (circles).  weave node produces moire fx in poser render.



pumeco posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 2:27 PM

Great shader, Bill, really nice; my mind is proper-blown at how good that shader looks!


Winterclaw posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 5:46 PM

Nancy, I discovered this by accident, but I'll give tiles a try.

WARK!

Thus Spoketh Winterclaw: a blog about a Winterclaw who speaks from time to time.

 

(using Poser Pro 2014 SR3, on 64 bit Win 7, poser units are inches.)


dasquid posted Fri, 02 May 2014 at 10:52 AM

I have no real skill in making  shaders or textures myself, or I would have done some already..... Just getting that out of the way before someone tells me to stop complaining and make my own, not saying it would happen but just in case.

 

Now the point of my post. Why is it that when people make chain mail textures they ALWAYS hang the links the wrong way?

These are just quick and dirty shots of my own mail shirt to show what I am talking about. No one would wear mail the other way because all the links would just fall open and allow  enemy weapons to catch and even pierce the armor, while hanging the proper way weapons are less likely to find an opening to exploit. Hung the proper way gravity will hold the links closed, but if worn as in that render that armor would not be so form fitting on her because of gravity pulling the mail open  exposing whatever she wore under it, (likely nothing in that instance) I know this is poser and fantasy we are talking about, but arent we all trying to make our figures look as realistic as possible? I know I am, and I know that I cannot be the only one whos OCD screams out NO! when they see mail hung that way.

 

BB Love your shaders and when I work with poser I try to use yours when I can. this is in no way directed at just you. I see this in textures for chain mail in every product I have ever seen that uses it. I cannot think of a single one that has done it properly and I do look.

Now please excuse me while I wash the iron foundry smell from my hands.

 

EDIT: Had to make the image smaller.



dasquid posted Fri, 02 May 2014 at 10:58 AM

And another closer.



bagginsbill posted Sat, 03 May 2014 at 8:04 AM

I am away for the weekend and don't have poser with me, but when I return, I will add a rotation parameter to the shader and default it to 90 degrees. Thus in future the blame for such mistakes will fall on the user and not the shader author. ..grin..

 

p.s. The arms came out right by accident. T pose is going to affect things. Uv maps are never what I want them to be.


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