Forum: Vue


Subject: New to Vue, having numerous problems importing and rendering Poser scene

NanetteTredoux opened this issue on Jun 15, 2014 · 9 posts


NanetteTredoux posted Sun, 15 June 2014 at 12:22 PM

I am new to this forum, having just bought Vue 2014 Complete, in fact the extras are still downloading (at least five hours left on that download). 

My main application is Poser Pro 2014, but I want to render some scenes in Vue for a book I am illustrating because the Firefly renderer doesn't finish rendering. I have been attracted by reports of speedy high quality renders.

I am not sure whether I should tell Vue to use the Poser shader tree or not. I tried it, rendered, and my render was completely black. Perhaps that is not the way to go.

I made Bagginsbill's envirosphere invisible so that I can create a Vue atmosphere for the outdoor scenes. That seems to work OK.

My main problem is that I have a little girl in the scene, she is wearing a dress (Poser dynamic). When I import the scene, the dress is not visible, though she is still wearing her panties. The dress object is imported, but it does not show up, even when I change the material and apply the texture in Vue. 

I did not expect the Poser procedural materials to show up, but I applied some Vue materials to certain items (sand for the flowerbeds, concrete etc.) When I render these objects are completely white.

Also I don't know how to change the gamma correction settings in Vue to a different value. Vue wants to set them to 1.8, but Poser uses 2.2. How do I do this?

Sorry for the noob questions, but I really need some help.

Poser 11 Pro, Windows 10

Auxiliary Apps: Blender 2.79, Vue Complete 2016, Genetica 4 Pro, Gliftex 11 Pro, CorelDraw Suite X6, Comic Life 2, Project Dogwaffle Howler 8, Stitch Witch


lam2 posted Sun, 15 June 2014 at 2:40 PM

Hi Nanette, have you set the Poser import option for the proper Poser SDK yet?

If not, you can go to File > Options > General Preferences >Configure Poser import

and choose Smith Micro Poser SDK (October 2013) and see what you can get.

 

I usually do not use the poser shader tree so I can't help you there unfortunately.


NanetteTredoux posted Sun, 15 June 2014 at 4:09 PM

I have set it to the correct SDK now, thank you for that.

I won't be using the Poser shader tree either, can't get it to work at all. 

The dynamic dress still disappears, but only when I import the whole scene. When I import only the little girl and the dress, the dress comes in correctly. Strange. Perhaps I should split the scene into parts and import them one by one.

Another baffling thing relates to the textures on the girl. In Vue's preview, they look correct. When I render a preview, the UV mapping is all messed up. I am so confused. Should the texture mapping be "automatic" or "automatic UV" or something else?

Poser 11 Pro, Windows 10

Auxiliary Apps: Blender 2.79, Vue Complete 2016, Genetica 4 Pro, Gliftex 11 Pro, CorelDraw Suite X6, Comic Life 2, Project Dogwaffle Howler 8, Stitch Witch


lam2 posted Sun, 15 June 2014 at 7:37 PM

I don't know which figure you are using, but sometimes when the scene file is big, something get mixed up and wrong textures are assigned to the figure in Vue.

My work around is to save prop, environment as a pz3, and export the figure with hair cloths as a Collada file.

And then I import pz3, and collada file in Vue.

I use Vue 2014 Complete and PP14 combo myself.

Dynamic cloths usually works fine for me.

 

I hope this helps a bit.


NanetteTredoux posted Mon, 16 June 2014 at 2:06 AM

Thank you Iam2. The figure is Maddie, and I am using one of the "Children of our time" textures from DAZ on her. I am going to try and export large scenes in sections to try and avoid this problem. Exporting figures via Collada seems worth trying.

Poser 11 Pro, Windows 10

Auxiliary Apps: Blender 2.79, Vue Complete 2016, Genetica 4 Pro, Gliftex 11 Pro, CorelDraw Suite X6, Comic Life 2, Project Dogwaffle Howler 8, Stitch Witch


aeilkema posted Tue, 17 June 2014 at 1:19 AM

I don't think you even have to use collada export. Go back to the original poser scene. Now delete the objects like the sphere you don't need in Vue. Don't hide it, delete it. I'm guessing that sphere rather huge, so delete and it will not consume memory in Vue. Then try again :)

Secondly, there are a few options you have when impoting items. It sounds like you have quite a large scene, so it will take up a lot of memory in Vue. As soon as the poser import menu comes up choose only the following settings: group figures as single meshes and import single frame from poser animation (leave it to zero). These are the least memory consuming settings.

If that doesn't work, split the scene in poser itself and save as 2 or 3 seperate pz3's and import those into Vue.

One thing you may want to check when importing is memory. I'm not sure how much you do have, but opening a large Poser scene in Vue is possible, but consumes a lot of memory. Also make sure you close as much applications as possible when importing the scene, also Poser, since that likes memory almost as much as Vue :)

Collada is possible, but you loose a huge benefit. If you import a pz3 into Vue, even with the minimum settings, it keeps a link to the pz3. If for some reason you need to change things in Poser, Vue will recognize those and asks if you want to reload the change into Vue as well. Works great, so if you manage to import pz3's that's simply the best solution.

If only one figure gives you trouble, save that one as a seperate pz3 and remove here from the main scene and import them seperately in Vue, that may work well. You just need to place the figure at the right position and that can be tricky :)

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Food for thought.....
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NanetteTredoux posted Tue, 17 June 2014 at 2:30 AM

Thank you for the help. I am slowly finding my way around the interface and learning where the options are. I realised I have to start with smaller scenes and divide larger scenes up into portions for exporting.

Poser 11 Pro, Windows 10

Auxiliary Apps: Blender 2.79, Vue Complete 2016, Genetica 4 Pro, Gliftex 11 Pro, CorelDraw Suite X6, Comic Life 2, Project Dogwaffle Howler 8, Stitch Witch


lam2 posted Tue, 17 June 2014 at 1:02 PM

 

Hi aeilkema, I love your Vue work!

 

It's true that the most of poser figures are fine with pz3 import.

It works flawlessly for me too.

I use collada when I import Daz Genesis 2 figures into Vue.

With pz3, you cannot import the high resolution subdivided mesh into Vue unfortunately.

On the other hand, just like pz3, when you make changes to the collada file, Vue would detect the change and let you know about it, so it's cool.

EnviSphere is a great tool to have in Poser, but it has no use in Vue.

 

 


aeilkema posted Tue, 17 June 2014 at 2:26 PM

I didn't know that worked with collade as well, great!

Quote - Hi aeilkema, I love your Vue work!

Thanks that is so cool to know :)

Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=23722

Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(

Food for thought.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYZw0dfLmLk