Sabby opened this issue on Jun 27, 2014 · 84 posts
Sabby posted Fri, 27 June 2014 at 5:20 PM
Netherworks posted Fri, 27 June 2014 at 5:54 PM
JimTS posted Fri, 27 June 2014 at 7:28 PM
If I ever get my mule/cow box runnimg I could use a DS install so sure since its just another file
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So is that TTFN or TANSTAAFL?
Talos posted Fri, 27 June 2014 at 9:51 PM
What Netherworks said!
Vaskania posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 1:48 AM
Quote - I got one! Not sure what I'll do with it but ... I got one! :)
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Kazam561 posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 5:33 AM
Thank you Sabby for the heads up.
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pumeco posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 6:02 AM
Same here, what Netherworks said.
Also, normally I'd be inclined to support them and thank them for the freebie through buying the official DAZ morph bundle like I did with V4, but on this occasion I'm not going to.
When they launched Genesis, it was marketed in such a way that it supposedly removed the concern about future compatibility. I'm glad I didn't spend money on the official morph bundles for Genesis, because excellent as they are, they are already obsolete.
So yup, downloaded it but I doubt I'll use it, I'll stick with V4.2 when it comes to DAZ figures!
dlfurman posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 7:23 AM
Yes, thank you for the heads up.
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DarkElegance posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 8:07 AM
Quote - http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-6
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LouisCross posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 8:23 AM
Even with an emty cart, I always get the error Maximum 1 allowed.
The next steps where a textbook example of how to make something very simple extremely complicated.
jestmart posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 10:43 AM
The max error is the result of trying to buy something when the store doesn't have you logged in. Log out then log in to the store, put any other item in your cart then open your cart. The original item that was giving the error should be in the cart along with the new item, if the new item isn't anything you wanted you can remove it before heading to check-out.
ErickL88 posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 10:43 AM
Quote - Even with an emty cart, I always get the error Maximum 1 allowed.
The next steps where a textbook example of how to make something very simple extremely complicated.
I had the same issue .... for me a fix was, to just add another random product into to cart. The V6 thingy appeard in the cart now as well. I later then removed the random added product.
.... how weird thigs can sometimes be.
So, yea ... add me to list of free-looters as well. =)
edit .. x-post with jestmart.
MistyLaraCarrara posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 10:51 AM
just a side note for newbies, V6 requires the 'Genesis 2 Female Starter Essentials'
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Letterworks posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 11:05 AM
Quote - just a side note for newbies, V6 requires the 'Genesis 2 Female Starter Essentials'
Can someone tell me where on DAZ this is located? I've been paging thru for some time now and can find lots of add-ons but not the base genesis 2...
Medzinatar posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 11:09 AM
Quote - > Quote - just a side note for newbies, V6 requires the 'Genesis 2 Female Starter Essentials'
Can someone tell me where on DAZ this is located? I've been paging thru for some time now and can find lots of add-ons but not the base genesis 2...
In the case of this "purchase" of V6, the starter essentials are automatically put into your product library.
If you previously obtained DS, they are already in your product library as part of installl bundle
LouisCross posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 11:16 AM
Ha, stranger it gets. LOL.
I was logged in, I had to log out !
Then I could add V6 to the cart, and then log in again during the checkout.
LouisCross posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 11:22 AM
Now next question :
Where is the manual on how to get this to work in Poser?
Poser does not eat nor drink : daf, def, dif, dof, duf, files.
If DS or DSON are required during the process?
The "Del" button is armed and ready.
Bejaymac posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 11:42 AM
Quote - Now next question :
Where is the manual on how to get this to work in Poser?
Poser does not eat nor drink : daf, def, dif, dof, duf, files.
If DS or DSON are required during the process?
The "Del" button is armed and ready.
It's a character morph and texture set for the Genesis 2 Female base figure, so if you don't use DS4 or the DSON importer for Poser, then you are wasting your time.
Sabby posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 11:57 AM
You need DSON to use it, Genesis in Poser is very similar to V4 in Poser once you have everything installed in the correct places. The only issue I ever had with it was remembering to reselect Genesis when applying multiple pieces of clothing.
Sabby posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 12:00 PM
http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/dson_importer/poser/userguide/dson_installation_requirements/tutorials/dson_installation/start
http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/dson_importer/poser/userguide/dson_importer_usage/tutorials/using_dson_importer/start
Morana posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 12:31 PM
Certainly couldn't say no to free. :D
Eric Walters posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 12:33 PM
I was just wondering the same thing! :-)
Quote - I got one! Not sure what I'll do with it but ... I got one! :)
sandman_max posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 3:29 PM
And this IS WHY i hate THEM!!! 
I just paid for it, like 2 days ago! Not much, mind you, but it's the principle of the thing!! Off to get my money back..
Zev0 posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 5:05 PM
Just a heads up, the only people who are offered it free are those who have not bought any Genesis 2 content (certain content on Daz site as they cannot track Gen2 content sales on others) or have not yet started using Genesis2. It is a targeted promotion to get those people on board and is not available for all. If you did not get the notification from them, it is not free for you.
AmbientShade posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 5:26 PM
Quote - Just a heads up, the only people who are offered it free are those who have not bought any Genesis 2 content (certain content on Daz site as they cannot track Gen2 content sales on others) or have not yet started using Genesis2. It is a targeted promotion to get those people on board and is not available for all. If you did not get the notification from them, it is not free for you.
That's not true Zev0. I've been buying Genesis 1 and 2 content and I also just got V6 for free. There was a banner ad at the top of their web page yesterday that says its in celebration of V6's one-year "birthday". I didn't get an e-mail about it. I've bought the morph sets for G2F and G2M and legacy shapes for G2F and M.
I was about to buy M6 today as he was on sale all week, and of course today - when I have the money for him - he isn't. So I have to wait again. I doubt he'll get a free birthday give-away. That would be like November or so anyway.
~Shane
Zev0 posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 5:30 PM
Ofcourse the system is not 100% but this thread explains the motivation. http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/42966/
DustRider posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 5:46 PM
Actually this is a new offer.
The thread here explains the offer being talked about in this thread, which is different than the original targeted V4 for free that the thread you linked to talks about.
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jestmart posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 5:47 PM
The targeted offer caused a lot of complaints from customers that have used and bought G2F products. The last page of the thread Zev0 linked to has a link that explains the new offer.
Zev0 posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 5:57 PM
Yes, so it is free now to everybody it seems. But before it was a targeted promotion.
Suucat posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 7:02 PM
Got her, dont know why but i got her :p
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Dale B posted Sun, 29 June 2014 at 6:44 AM
Get back to me when the g-things work natively in Poser.....
Kazam561 posted Sun, 29 June 2014 at 6:53 AM
Quote - And this IS WHY i hate THEM!!!
WHen I used to buy a lot from them they were good about giving a refund (store credit) if a sale occurred right after buying. Mind you I had to call them by phone.
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RorrKonn posted Sun, 29 June 2014 at 8:32 AM
1998 TrueSpace was $400.00+ ,today it's free.
Blenders been free for a long time ,people still buy other all purpose apps.
A DAZ V6 thread on this forum is destined to be locked.
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Zev0 posted Sun, 29 June 2014 at 8:41 AM
Why would it be locked? It's not like we comparing it to other figures eg this vs that. Those are the ones that get heated very quickly.
sandman_max posted Sun, 29 June 2014 at 9:26 AM
Quote - > Quote - And this IS WHY i hate THEM!!!
WHen I used to buy a lot from them they were good about giving a refund (store credit) if a sale occurred right after buying. Mind you I had to call them by phone.
LOL! This is my backup plan... but hopefully it won't come to that. They've been good about refunds in the past and it's not like I actually want money back - it will go right out again to get another Genesis 2 product and that's they really want - happy new Genesis 2 users.
sandman_max posted Sun, 29 June 2014 at 9:31 AM
Quote - Get back to me when the g-things work natively in Poser.....
Actually, it's quite easy to get a native Genesis (1 or 2) for Poser, but you'll have to embrace DAZ Studio long enough to load Genesis up and save it back out as a cr2 file. The other cool thing I discovered is that all DAZ scenes save as duf files, so DSON will load a complete DAZ scene into Poser. The biggest advantage of this is morphing Genesis and then using DAZ Auto-fit for clothes. Save it, load it into Poser. No messing around trying to conform it or run weight-mapped stuff through the Fitting room.
aldebaran40 posted Sun, 29 June 2014 at 9:50 AM
Quote - Yes, so it is free now to everybody it seems. But before it was a targeted promotion.
come on ... ¿is so difficult say?
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aldebaran40 posted Sun, 29 June 2014 at 9:54 AM
Quote - > Quote - Get back to me when the g-things work natively in Poser.....
Actually, it's quite easy to get a native Genesis (1 or 2) for Poser, but you'll have to embrace DAZ Studio long enough to load Genesis up and save it back out as a cr2 file. The other cool thing I discovered is that all DAZ scenes save as duf files, so DSON will load a complete DAZ scene into Poser. The biggest advantage of this is morphing Genesis and then using DAZ Auto-fit for clothes. Save it, load it into Poser. No messing around trying to conform it or run weight-mapped stuff through the Fitting room.
I'm interested in this, I made a character in DAZ 4.5 and I want to take it to Poser pose it , light it and render there (P2012),
¿you could tell me where I get a guide to convert that Daz character in Poser Native ?
Eric Walters posted Sun, 29 June 2014 at 3:59 PM
Thanks-I was just going to ask.....
I took the plunge and bought V5 and various morphs and clothing sets for use in Poser when she came out-with mixed success. Hopefully the starter essentials are free!
Quote - just a side note for newbies, V6 requires the 'Genesis 2 Female Starter Essentials'
Eric Walters posted Sun, 29 June 2014 at 4:08 PM
I cannot seem to find Genesis 2 base! Where? Previously, I had Genesis and applied V5 as a morph. Is there a Base Genesis 2 character? Searching for Genesis 2 only shows Products FOR Genesis 2 not the base mesh.
RorrKonn posted Sun, 29 June 2014 at 4:32 PM
Quote - I cannot seem to find Genesis 2 base! Where? Previously, I had Genesis and applied V5 as a morph. Is there a Base Genesis 2 character? Searching for Genesis 2 only shows Products FOR Genesis 2 not the base mesh.
I allready had V6 so didn't get the free one
but I think the genesis base mesh 2 comes with the freeV6.
I know Genesis 2 base meshes comes with DAZ Studio.
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RorrKonn posted Sun, 29 June 2014 at 4:35 PM
There is not a Genesis base mesh 2 .obj
So you half to have DAZ tech DAZ Studio/DSON to use her.
or to export a .obj version of her for app's like Blender zBrush etc etc
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AmbientShade posted Sun, 29 June 2014 at 4:40 PM
Click on the content library on the left side of your screen. Make sure 'Smart Content' is the tab selected and click on figures. Genesis 2 male and female should both be listed there. If not, they should be available in your account's product library on DAZ's site.
~Shane
Eric Walters posted Sun, 29 June 2014 at 4:41 PM
Found it! G2 was added as a DL to Product Library under My Account.
AmbientShade posted Sun, 29 June 2014 at 5:05 PM
Quote - > Quote - "Get back to me when the g-things work natively in Poser....."
Actually, it's quite easy to get a native Genesis (1 or 2) for Poser, but you'll have to embrace DAZ Studio long enough to load Genesis up and save it back out as a cr2 file. The other cool thing I discovered is that all DAZ scenes save as duf files, so DSON will load a complete DAZ scene into Poser. The biggest advantage of this is morphing Genesis and then using DAZ Auto-fit for clothes. Save it, load it into Poser. No messing around trying to conform it or run weight-mapped stuff through the Fitting room.
You don't have to have daz studio installed to get a functioning native G2 figure in Poser. You do have to have DSON installed tho. Long enough to bring over the figure and save it back out. The process requires some digging in and customizing but you only have to do it once. Here's one of JoePublic's threads on how to go about it:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2874695&page=1
~Shane
Miss Nancy posted Mon, 30 June 2014 at 1:30 PM
for non-genesis owners: total download of all items should be ~ 1.16 GB, in case they extend freebie period.
Direwrath posted Mon, 30 June 2014 at 3:38 PM
I picked her up, although I always fall back to my Gen 4 figures I was interested in the Gia morphs for her. Got M6 a few weeks ago for a decent price so I wasn't targeted at first but to be honest now that I have the V6 part down I will probably invest more money into her then initially planned.
But as always M4/V4 stuff comes first and foremost. ;)
WandW posted Mon, 30 June 2014 at 8:47 PM
Quote - > Quote - Get back to me when the g-things work natively in Poser.....
Actually, it's quite easy to get a native Genesis (1 or 2) for Poser, but you'll have to embrace DAZ Studio long enough to load Genesis up and save it back out as a cr2 file. The other cool thing I discovered is that all DAZ scenes save as duf files, so DSON will load a complete DAZ scene into Poser. The biggest advantage of this is morphing Genesis and then using DAZ Auto-fit for clothes. Save it, load it into Poser. No messing around trying to conform it or run weight-mapped stuff through the Fitting room.
One can create a Genesis 1 or 2 cr2 within Poser by saving a cr2 to the Poser Library, exporting an .obj with the desired uv set and editing the cr2 to point to the exported cr2.
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2874212
I'll have to try the scene method to bring in converted clothing; that's very clever! 
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Faery_Light posted Tue, 01 July 2014 at 1:03 AM
I missed it by one dratted day!
Didn't see this post in time. :(
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hborre posted Tue, 01 July 2014 at 8:21 AM
Quote -
I'll have to try the scene method to bring in converted clothing; that's very clever!
There is a small tutorial over at DeviantArt outlining the details. Not at my own computer ATM to check if I have an actual link.
RHaseltine posted Tue, 01 July 2014 at 3:50 PM
Quote - I missed it by one dratted day!
Didn't see this post in time. :(
The offer has been extended for a bit, so for now it's still free.
Faery_Light posted Tue, 01 July 2014 at 4:59 PM
Oh yes, I got her!
Let me introduce you to my multiple personalities. :)
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WandW posted Tue, 01 July 2014 at 6:11 PM
Quote - Got her, dont know why but i got her :p
JoePublic posted a while back how to put V4's rig into V6 so she works in Poser and can wear V4's clothes... 
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2871375
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Fazzel posted Tue, 01 July 2014 at 9:39 PM
Thanks for the heads up, Sabby.
Faery_Light posted Tue, 01 July 2014 at 10:45 PM
I got her installed and got Dson importer installed.
It took a bit of work to get my brain to understand how it works in Poser but I did it. :biggrin:
Now when my eyes will let me I'll do some playing and renders.
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Suucat posted Wed, 02 July 2014 at 12:23 AM
Quote - > Quote - Got her, dont know why but i got her :p
JoePublic posted a while back how to put V4's rig into V6 so she works in Poser and can wear V4's clothes...
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2871375
uh... what's a modeller?
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RorrKonn posted Wed, 02 July 2014 at 12:42 AM
Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Got her, dont know why but i got her :p
JoePublic posted a while back how to put V4's rig into V6 so she works in Poser and can wear V4's clothes...
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2871375
uh... what's a modeller?
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Believable3D posted Wed, 02 July 2014 at 1:01 AM
Here's my first test render without bothering to do any morph work. Instead, I tested PP2014's Pixar subdivision: 1 level in preview, 3 in render. Render took a while despite the size (not just due to subdivision; also had the render settings pretty high). Also used EZ-Skin, as usual.
I like having a variety of figures, so I can see myself using V6, especially since the Fitting Room helps allow existing clothing content to get used.
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RorrKonn posted Wed, 02 July 2014 at 1:09 AM
Can't ya transfer one character morphs to another in Pro 14
so ya could get Roxies ,V4's ,V5's morphs on to V6 and just save that morph to V6
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Believable3D posted Wed, 02 July 2014 at 1:22 AM
Yes, PP2014 can transfer morphs. I'll probably try that, although with different topology etc I'm not sure it will turn out all that well.
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Male_M3dia posted Wed, 02 July 2014 at 2:49 AM
Quote - I picked her up, since she was still free. Not too painful to use, either, though unfortunately I can't use my Genesis 1 (Evolution) morph pack with her. But I want to experiment with the PP2014 morph brush, anyway.
Here's my first test render without bothering to do any morph work. Instead, I tested PP2014's Pixar subdivision: 1 level in preview, 3 in render. Render took a while despite the size (not just due to subdivision; also had the render settings pretty high). Also used EZ-Skin, as usual.
I like having a variety of figures, so I can see myself using V6, especially since the Fitting Room helps allow existing clothing content to get used.
Just a note on subdivision:
Subdivision is just a smoothing algorithm, so setting it higher than 1 only increases render time, not detail. Setting it much higher would only smooth out detail as well. DAZ's HD tech would add detail on a higher subdivision level such as 3, but it depends on the product as it does not have to be that high.
Also Poser's and DAZ's implementation of the Pixar's subd spec is different, where Poser does not have the edge weighted creasing part implemented. This means that the more detailed a morph is, it won't be as crisp and detailed in Poser's native subdivision as it would be with the DSON importer's version. This is the reason why HD will only work the DSON importer, not Poser's subdivision.
AmbientShade posted Wed, 02 July 2014 at 4:03 AM
Quote - I picked her up, since she was still free. Not too painful to use, either, though unfortunately I can't use my Genesis 1 (Evolution) morph pack with her. But I want to experiment with the PP2014 morph brush, anyway.
You can use Dimension3D's GenX2 plug-in to transfer morphs from V4, V3, Gen1, etc, to V6/G2. But it's a plug-in built for DS so you'd have to use DS to transfer. Then you could port the morphs over via dson.
Poser's morph transfer could work for some of them but it won't do as well a job as the GenX2 plug-in will.
~Shane
DreaminGirl posted Wed, 02 July 2014 at 7:02 AM
I guess I have a rather weird aversion to using V6.. she looks like a young version of my MUM! Don't want to play with that LOL
AmbientShade posted Wed, 02 July 2014 at 7:07 AM
Yeah, I was just noticing how much younger the V has gotten over the years. V3 looked to be in her late 30s, early 40s, while V6 looks barely legal, especially in that render up above.
~Shane
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"Natures gold is green"
Luis Royo girls have a young face with a hot body.
Artist tend to copy what looks good ,we've been copying
the 5eyes wide 7 eyes tall head,8 head tall body ratio for centuries now.
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RHaseltine posted Wed, 02 July 2014 at 9:45 AM
Quote - > Quote - I picked her up, since she was still free. Not too painful to use, either, though unfortunately I can't use my Genesis 1 (Evolution) morph pack with her. But I want to experiment with the PP2014 morph brush, anyway.
Here's my first test render without bothering to do any morph work. Instead, I tested PP2014's Pixar subdivision: 1 level in preview, 3 in render. Render took a while despite the size (not just due to subdivision; also had the render settings pretty high). Also used EZ-Skin, as usual.
I like having a variety of figures, so I can see myself using V6, especially since the Fitting Room helps allow existing clothing content to get used.
Just a note on subdivision:
Subdivision is just a smoothing algorithm, so setting it higher than 1 only increases render time, not detail. Setting it much higher would only smooth out detail as well. DAZ's HD tech would add detail on a higher subdivision level such as 3, but it depends on the product as it does not have to be that high.
Also Poser's and DAZ's implementation of the Pixar's subd spec is different, where Poser does not have the edge weighted creasing part implemented. This means that the more detailed a morph is, it won't be as crisp and detailed in Poser's native subdivision as it would be with the DSON importer's version. This is the reason why HD will only work the DSON importer, not Poser's subdivision.
I'm not sure that's right - edge weighting is a base geometry thing, not a morph thing, as far as I am aware (that's certainly how it works in modo, and doing it in DS uses the Geometry Editor tool). HD morphs require an ability to read the data with the vertex positions for the SubD mesh, and to apply it, so it won't work on native Poser SubD as the new vertex information is not available nor code to apply it, not for the lack of edge weighting.
Morana posted Wed, 02 July 2014 at 1:12 PM
Quote - > Quote - Get back to me when the g-things work natively in Poser.....
Actually, it's quite easy to get a native Genesis (1 or 2) for Poser, but you'll have to embrace DAZ Studio long enough to load Genesis up and save it back out as a cr2 file. The other cool thing I discovered is that all DAZ scenes save as duf files, so DSON will load a complete DAZ scene into Poser. The biggest advantage of this is morphing Genesis and then using DAZ Auto-fit for clothes. Save it, load it into Poser. No messing around trying to conform it or run weight-mapped stuff through the Fitting room.
Is there anything special you need to do to load in a scene using DSON? I've only used it to bring in figures and clothing from the library.
Male_M3dia posted Wed, 02 July 2014 at 1:16 PM
Quote - > Quote - > Quote - I picked her up, since she was still free. Not too painful to use, either, though unfortunately I can't use my Genesis 1 (Evolution) morph pack with her. But I want to experiment with the PP2014 morph brush, anyway.
Here's my first test render without bothering to do any morph work. Instead, I tested PP2014's Pixar subdivision: 1 level in preview, 3 in render. Render took a while despite the size (not just due to subdivision; also had the render settings pretty high). Also used EZ-Skin, as usual.
I like having a variety of figures, so I can see myself using V6, especially since the Fitting Room helps allow existing clothing content to get used.
Just a note on subdivision:
Subdivision is just a smoothing algorithm, so setting it higher than 1 only increases render time, not detail. Setting it much higher would only smooth out detail as well. DAZ's HD tech would add detail on a higher subdivision level such as 3, but it depends on the product as it does not have to be that high.
Also Poser's and DAZ's implementation of the Pixar's subd spec is different, where Poser does not have the edge weighted creasing part implemented. This means that the more detailed a morph is, it won't be as crisp and detailed in Poser's native subdivision as it would be with the DSON importer's version. This is the reason why HD will only work the DSON importer, not Poser's subdivision.
I'm not sure that's right - edge weighting is a base geometry thing, not a morph thing, as far as I am aware (that's certainly how it works in modo, and doing it in DS uses the Geometry Editor tool). HD morphs require an ability to read the data with the vertex positions for the SubD mesh, and to apply it, so it won't work on native Poser SubD as the new vertex information is not available nor code to apply it, not for the lack of edge weighting.
Joepublic did a post a while back showing the difference between the HD and other morphs using the DSON Importer and Poser subdivision. You could see the slight differences between the two, but the HD on Poser's spec was basically destroyed and just looked like splotches on top of the base morph.
MaryHines posted Thu, 03 July 2014 at 5:38 PM
I downloaded/installed DAZ 4.6 Pro, V6, & Genesis 2 Starter Essentials ......alot of my .dsf files are missing, which is causing major probs...have done searches in my folders for them, but they arent there ...would appreciate any info on how to get them from DAZ, etc..(also tried uninstall/re-install)
dsf files missing :
Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/My Library/People/Genesis/Genesis.dsf
/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 2/Female/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Base/PBMNavel.dsf
/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 2/Female/UV Sets/DAZ 3D/Base/Base Female.dsf
/data/Age of Armour/Subsurface Shaders/AoA_Subsurface/AoA_Subsurface.dsf
hborre posted Thu, 03 July 2014 at 11:35 PM
DAZ is moving away from .dsf files to the newer .duf format. This is to facilitate the importation of current content into Poser via DSON.
Male_M3dia posted Fri, 04 July 2014 at 12:38 AM
Quote - DAZ is moving away from .dsf files to the newer .duf format. This is to facilitate the importation of current content into Poser via DSON.
DSON is the native file format of DAZ studio. The duf files is the "user facing files" to access the lower level dsf files. The error messages basically mean that the files were installed incorrectly as the system can't find the base figures to load.
Unless you know how the internal workings of the format system works, it's suggested that you use the install manager to install the files as it's s shift away from how poser zipped files work. Manually copying and moving files when you don't know the set up will generally cause more problems, than setting up a directory for the genesis files, defining the location in the install manager then linking that in Poser.
MistyLaraCarrara posted Fri, 04 July 2014 at 7:17 AM
Quote - I downloaded/installed DAZ 4.6 Pro, V6, & Genesis 2 Starter Essentials ......alot of my .dsf files are missing, which is causing major probs...have done searches in my folders for them, but they arent there ...would appreciate any info on how to get them from DAZ, etc..(also tried uninstall/re-install)
dsf files missing :
Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/My Library/People/Genesis/Genesis.dsf
/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 2/Female/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Base/PBMNavel.dsf
/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 2/Female/UV Sets/DAZ 3D/Base/Base Female.dsf
/data/Age of Armour/Subsurface Shaders/AoA_Subsurface/AoA_Subsurface.dsf
the aoa is a separate d/l. "Subsurface Shader Base"
genesis 1 files are probably in the genesis starter essentials, separate d/l. "Genesis Starter Essentials"
i had some of these missing file messages when i was installing carrara, eventually figured out it was cms related.
don't know if poser dson needs the cms running?
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MistyLaraCarrara posted Fri, 04 July 2014 at 7:31 AM
am i allowed to post a screenshot ? well i guess a mod can delete it if it's no-no
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RHaseltine posted Fri, 04 July 2014 at 2:31 PM
The current versions of DS don't, but if you had an older version on that system previously it would have loaded Genesis at startup - that's the Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/My Library/People/Genesis/Genesis.dsf call. You can kill it, if you want, by going to Edit>Preferences (or Apple menu>Preferences on a Mac0 and remving the load file option in the Start up tab
Suucat posted Sat, 05 July 2014 at 5:28 PM
Quote - > Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Got her, dont know why but i got her :p
JoePublic posted a while back how to put V4's rig into V6 so she works in Poser and can wear V4's clothes...
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2871375
uh... what's a modeller?
Blender,LW,Modo,C4D,Max,Maya,Softimage.
Vickys was modled in LW,Modo.
ha, now im 100% sure im never going to use V6
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RorrKonn posted Sat, 05 July 2014 at 6:23 PM
Quote - > Quote - > Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Got her, dont know why but i got her :p
JoePublic posted a while back how to put V4's rig into V6 so she works in Poser and can wear V4's clothes...
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2871375
uh... what's a modeller?
Blender,LW,Modo,C4D,Max,Maya,Softimage.
Vickys was modled in LW,Modo.
ha, now im 100% sure im never going to use V6
Wasn't trying to scare you away from V6 ,she's the best mesh DAZ has ever released.
Could play with her using DSON.No modeler needed.
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FVerbaas posted Sun, 06 July 2014 at 5:21 PM Forum Coordinator
To be honest I am lost with these Genesis-Victoria versions.
Now I see her for $0.00 on the site, (http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-6) but when I want to add her to my cart I get message: 'Maximum quantity for purchase = 1'. Yet, my cart is empty and I have mo Victoria6 in my runtimes or in my downloadable files.
RorrKonn posted Sun, 06 July 2014 at 6:28 PM
Quote - To be honest I am lost with these Genesis-Victoria versions.
Now I see her for $0.00 on the site, (http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-6) but when I want to add her to my cart I get message: 'Maximum quantity for purchase = 1'. Yet, my cart is empty and I have mo Victoria6 in my runtimes or in my downloadable files.
things I've done wrong
not logged in
added to wish list but not cart
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Male_M3dia posted Mon, 07 July 2014 at 1:47 AM
Quote - To be honest I am lost with these Genesis-Victoria versions.
Now I see her for $0.00 on the site, (http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-6) but when I want to add her to my cart I get message: 'Maximum quantity for purchase = 1'. Yet, my cart is empty and I have mo Victoria6 in my runtimes or in my downloadable files.
The cart glitched when you added it twice to your cart. Make sure you're logged in, add anything else to your cart, then view the cart. You should see V6 added, then delete the other item out.
jartz posted Mon, 07 July 2014 at 1:51 AM
Quote - To be honest I am lost with these Genesis-Victoria versions.
Now I see her for $0.00 on the site, (http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-6) but when I want to add her to my cart I get message: 'Maximum quantity for purchase = 1'. Yet, my cart is empty and I have mo Victoria6 in my runtimes or in my downloadable files.
Same here. Tried what the other posted behind, and get "Maximum quantity for purchase is 1" error...
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Male_M3dia posted Mon, 07 July 2014 at 1:55 AM
Quote - > Quote - > Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Got her, dont know why but i got her :p
JoePublic posted a while back how to put V4's rig into V6 so she works in Poser and can wear V4's clothes...
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2871375
uh... what's a modeller?
Blender,LW,Modo,C4D,Max,Maya,Softimage.
Vickys was modled in LW,Modo.
ha, now im 100% sure im never going to use V6
Actually there was another article that JoePublic made to make it simply a Poser CR2, not make it V4-compatible. IMO, if you're going to make it like V4, just use V4. There are some caviats to the native conversion there as well, but you don't need an external modeller to convert it.
jartz posted Mon, 07 July 2014 at 2:06 AM
I managed to get her (thanks Male_M3dia) buy picking something in the cart and adding her (provided I still have that "glitch"), deleted the first purchase and got V6, now needing to install the other things (Gen2 Essentials, etc, etc...). It's been a while since I dabbed into Poser after a long hiatus, and since I didn't receive anything from Daz about this free offer.
Oh well, at least I nabbed it.
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FVerbaas posted Mon, 07 July 2014 at 12:04 PM Forum Coordinator
Quote - The cart glitched when you added it twice to your cart. Make sure you're logged in, add anything else to your cart, then view the cart. You should see V6 added, then delete the other item out.
It worked. I got the error message, but V6 was added to my cart all right.
Now installed and working.
Thank you.
bhoins posted Tue, 08 July 2014 at 4:36 PM
For those of you using Poser with the DSON Importer, some basic tips.
Poser prefers python files in the base content folder so loads the PoserCF files better/Faster if they are there.
If you have Poser 2012 or 2014, make your Library panel external, this greatly speeds up load time (in fact it seems to do that with any native poser files as well.) .
The first time you load a Genesis or Genesis 2 figure after adding it or adding a new morph pack they load slower. After the first time they load significantly faster, unless you flush your DSON Cache.
Following those tips I get Genesis loading significantly faster than V4 with Morphs ++ and about the same speed as Roxie. (Of course YMMV.)