I bought Poser 10 a few weeks ago. Turns out I shouldn't have; I apparently lack a few hundred of the IQ points required to use the software. I've developed a pronounced twitch in my right eye and a tendency to burst into tears at random.

So I'm not only throwing in the proverbial towel, but buying it first-class airfare to Aruba and renting it a beach house. 

My question is this -- can I sell my Poser 10 discs? I can't find a way to de-register the software. Of course I couldn't find a way to load hair either, but that's beside the point. I don't want to saddle some unsuspecting stranger with software he or she can't even install.

I've looked on the Smith Micro site, and can't find any mention of de-registration or the like. I thought one of you folks might know, and take pity on this hollow shell of a man.

I'll be in the corner rocking back and forth, if anyone knows the answer. Thanks!

 

Not sure if you have given up completely :) 

But did you go through these tutorials?

http://poser.smithmicro.com/tutorials/basics/interface101.html

You would have to ask Smith Micro's customer service directly for the real answer. I don't believe there is a way to "unregister" and it's usually not permitted to resell software you've already used. But each company has its own policies. 

This forum is intended to help new Poser users learn how to use the software and there are a lot of people here that know how to do so very well and can help you with any questions or problems you're having. It's not that difficult once you learn the basics. 

So what are some of the issues you're having that's making the experience so frustrating for you?

 

 

Thanks for the link, 3D-Mobster. I went through the tutorials (the Smith Micros and the Renderosity versions) several times. I thought I understood what to do, but it simply never worked.

I even had a friend who is an experienced Poser user try to help me. She was last seen speeding toward Mexico under an assumed name. 

I'm hopeless. This is worse than my ill-fated guitar lessons, or the Be Your Own Heart Surgeon degree-by-mail debacle. It's probably best if I just return to rendering poorly-executed stick figures on old grocery sacks with Sharpie markers. 

 

It takes a while to learn any 3D program--and although Poser is easier than most, it still requires time and diligence. It is like learning a new language. You cant just plop yourself in another country and start speaking Swahili in a couple weeks. I dont know the answer to selling the program, but I assume you got Poser because you want to start creating 3D images and/or animations--and so I would argue, give it another shot. Take it slowly. Import a creature, move it around a little. Dont try to do everything at once. Poser is a delightful program and I think the main trick is--well, enjoy it!

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Wow, thanks for all the replies! I really appreciate the support and kind words. Wish I'd worked up the courage to post here sooner.

I'm at work and my Poser machine is at home, but I can sum up what I believe is my single biggest issue as this -- I can't get DAZ or Renderosity files installed in the places Poser expects to find them. 

I know they are supposed to reside in a Runtime file. I've tried using the DAZ installer, tried manual installs, and I actually got a single zip file from Renderosity to install using the Content pane  inside Poser. 

But for the most part, I wind up either not being able to see installed content at all, or getting errors when I click on it. I thought I'd actually managed to install hair; it appeared as content, but when I tried to use it a dialog box opened, asking me where was located. 

I apologize for being such a clueless newb. Will post specifics when I'm in front of my Poser machine.

 

Again, thanks!

Yes, what dnstuefloten said. There are also plenty of video tutorials on youtube that could help you. Some people learn better by demonstration than they do by reading a list of steps. 

Here is a link to Smith Micro's youtube channel, and a playlist of 30+ demonstration videos all about using Poser:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLynyD-7entJ0exWVVKLZLvUYmMFLr6lOy

 

As for transferring/resale, it's in your license agreement. Assuming you're using Windows, go to Start > All Programs > Smith Micro > Poser 10 and you should find a document called Poser License, or Poser EULA (End User License Agreement). Scroll down to where you see the heading Program License: 

Quote -   Subject to the terms and conditions of this EULA and your payment of the license fee, the Company grants you a limited, personal, nontransferable and nonexclusive license (without the right to sublicense): 

 

 

Thanks, AmbientShade!

don't give it up yet.  takes approx. 1.5 yrs to learn poser.

In my case, the 1.5 year figure may need to be amended as 1.5 million years, or something similar.

I suppose I should offer a few more details. I have Poser 10, running on Windows 7. My PC has 8G of RAM, a six-core processor, and a 2G video card. 

My previous experience with graphic art programs includes, um, nothing. I did have an Etch-A-Sketch as a kid, and I once depicted a crooked line on it. 

So far I've bought Victoria 4.2 from Daz, and a bunch of stuff from Renderosity (hair, clothes, props). 

I'll take another stab at it tonight. Thanks for the suggestions.

 

 

 

Welcome to the world of 3D and some of the frustrations but believe me there is an up side.

If you have had problems in installing the content and programs into the right place then you are not alone, the question about how to install files comes up in the forum once or twice every month.  I can understand the frustration but if you have had problems with the install then you really have not had time to really play with Poser.  It does take time to learn, I have being playing with Poser for over 10 years now and I still learn something new most days.  The good news though us that I was creating pictures (renders) that fasinated me in a couple of weeks.  OK I cringe a little when I look at them now but it shows how far my skills and the software has come.  Give it another shot and let the people here help you, they are good at it, believe me.

Finally I am an ex-traininer and my definition of a stupid question is very simple, it is the question that is thought of but never asked, anything else is fair game.  We have all been at the start of something and needed help, so let rip. 

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

Just a quick word of encouragement. As others have already noted, Poser does take a bit of time to learn. Unfourtunately, due to the complexity of 3D, and the attempt to keep Poser a bit more user freindly, content installation, and understanding how it is organized, can be a bit complex for the new user. But once you begin to understand the basics of both content organization, and how Poser works, things  get easier.

I had a bit of an advatage when first starting with Poser/3D because I worked with (and supported) computers at work every day. But I had no art or 3D training at all. It took a while, and I actually read the manual of my first 3D app from cover to cover, which helped a lot. But give yourself some time, and take baby steps, and you will get there. Heck, if I can make images people actually like, most anyone should be able to. (I have a science degree ..... major linear/logic driven thinker, and not very artistically inclined. I can do just about any kind of technical drawing or make a highly acurate map, just don't ask me to draw a bunny rabbit and expect to get anything better than a blob with ears)

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The last time I mentioned this I was thoroughly shot down, but I have never EVER installed Poser to C:Program Files. I have installed Poser directly into the C drive in its own folder and have no problems. I also unzip my content inside of my Downloads folder and hand install everything into Poser, changing folder names if I have to so that it fits into my own type of organization. I never EVER unzip anything directly into Poser. Yes, it's more time consumming, but you learn Poser's file structure this way and you know exactly where your purchases are and have no problems with Window's new security precautions regarding the Program Files folder.

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Please don't give up in frustration, take a deep breath, recite your mantra ("I love Poser, I love Po...") and ease into the Poserverse slowly.   You're obviously smart (your writing is a hoot!) enough for this, it just takes time.  Read everything, fiddle with it a bit, read some more, fiddle...and so on, you'll gradually pick it up.  Most everyone here has gone through the same process.   I'd suggest you grab a bunch of the free stuff before investing money.  Hit the 'freebies' forum for many (many, many, many...) links. Relax, have a cookie and welcome to the nuthouse.

 

as imposable as it seems now.
very soon it will seem very easy.

just hang in there for a week or two.

poser comes with a lot of stock meshes.
there fun to play with

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Quote - The last time I mentioned this I was thoroughly shot down, but I have never EVER installed Poser to C:Program Files. I have installed Poser directly into the C drive in its own folder and have no problems. I also unzip my content inside of my Downloads folder and hand install everything into Poser, changing folder names if I have to so that it fits into my own type of organization. I never EVER unzip anything directly into Poser. Yes, it's more time consumming, but you learn Poser's file structure this way and you know exactly where your purchases are and have no problems with Window's new security precautions regarding the Program Files folder.

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All of my project files, regardless of program, are on a seperate partition of the hard drive and all zips are unzipped in dedicated folders in my Downloads folder, then manually placed where they go.  Too many times I would try to unzip, say, a hair item, and it would want to replace my entire Runtime with its own just to install the hair.

Besides, in theory, if I put it somewhere, I should remember where it went.  I write it all down, though, since each main subject (Victoria, Animals, Locations) has their own Runtime and some products - let's use hair again - are made for more than one figure.

Basicwiz has a thread or three around here somewhere about how he organizes his truck load of stuff.  I need to go check those out myself . . .

Quick update: Victoria 4.2 loads. I can pose her, move her, all that.

I hoped to add hair. Got Crazy Locks from Renderosity (http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/phc-crazy-locks/101796/) and thought I even managed to install it by using the Unzip function in the Content pane. 

Hair items -- lots of them -- show up in my content folder, under Figures. 

Clicking on hair does one of two things -- nothing, or I get the error message shown below:

 

I know I'm doing something imbecilic.  There's probably a double-secret hair follicle stablizer script I need to run first. But if anyone has any suggestions, including 'Take up stamp collecting,' I'd appreciate them. Thanks!

The screenshot shows you trying to load a hair pose - was the hair figure in the workplace (now covered by the pop up), or did you try to apply a pose to nothing?

Edit:  Also, make sure the poses you are trying are for the hair figure they came with - you can experiment by mixing, but poses that are included in a product are meant for that specific figure. :)

If you had a figure in the workroom and that is an otherwise correct pose you are trying to apply, and it still did not work, I would guess something was installed to the wrong folder.  Follow the prompt in the pop up to locate what is in the wrong place, then consider moving it.

I am left with the embarrassing conclusion that I have been trying to put something that isn't hair at all on this poor woman's head.

I thought all that was hair. 

Ouch. 

I see what you mean now. I bought hair -- poses? 

What I should have bought was hair. No wonder Poser just sort of looked at me funny.

Thanks. 

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Quote - I am left with the embarrassing conclusion that I have been trying to put something that isn't hair at all on this poor woman's head.

I thought all that was hair. 

Ouch. 

I see what you mean now. I bought hair -- poses? 

What I should have bought was hair. No wonder Poser just sort of looked at me funny.

Thanks. 

"I'm not always a blithering idiot, but when I am,

I do it in public, in a Poser user forum."

 

 

 

Odds are good you bought "hair," which usually include a figure and differen colors (called poses - long story).  I doubt you bought just the poses unless it was an expansion or add-on and should have been marketed as such.  I will look at the products you mentioned.

Yes, you bought an add-on (just the color poses).

Since you are new - welcome :) - you probably overlooked the Requirements notice located under the product images.  In this case, it says:

Requirements:  Crazy Locks by Goldtassel available at DAZ

Departments: 3D Figure Essentials • AddOns • Hair

You have to buy that product, located at Daz3d.com, for there to be a figure to change. :/

Note:  I have no idea if Renderosity has a return policy on downloaded items.  If you do not want to buy the required item, contact the Renderosity Customer Support and see what they can do about refunding your money - again, no idea, since they would not want to give you your cash if they cannot verify you uninstalled the product and recycled the zip.

I would go look at DAZ and make up your mind when you are not quite so miffed. :)

(ALSO:  DAZ HAS THEIR OWN PROGRAM - MAKE SURE ANYTHING YOU GET THERE IS POSER COMPATABLE)

Lesson learned. I'll keep the hair poses, and get the hair object, and not be so fast to click buy in the future. 

Thanks for checking! 

I've heard of something called 'reading comprehension.' I'll see if I can get a bucket of that before I go off an another buying spree.

Quote - Lesson learned. I'll keep the hair poses, and get the hair object, and not be so fast to click buy in the future. 

Thanks for checking! 

I've heard of something called 'reading comprehension.' I'll see if I can get a bucket of that before I go off an another buying spree.

"For everything there is a first time, Lieutenant." - Spock

We are not allowed to link directly to off site things, so copy this in and it should take you to the item:

http://www.daz3d.com/crazy-locks-female-hair

It is by Goldltassel (as mentioned in what you bought) and the girl in the promo also appears in the corner of the promo for what you bought.  Odds are good this is it. :)

That's it. I really appreciate your help!

Since that should solve that issue, I will make another post about buying hair:  If it says "Touchable," "Candy," or "Toxic," it is probably just colors requiring the base figure not included.  I do no know what "PHC" means, except it is by P3D-Art, so maybe "P3D-Art's Hair Colors."

This has really been helpful.

I feel stupid, but that's more or less my ground state so I'm used to it. But I made progress, and I know a lot more now than I did an hour ago, so I am grateful.

The truth is this -- I've ALWAYS wanted to create visual art of some kind. I don't have the innate talent for drawing or painting, so when I saw Poser I thought I might finally be able to create something beautiful. 

Now I have hope that might actually happen. The problems are solvable, and there are cool people who will help. Thanks.

 

 

You are very welcome, in every sense of the word.  I lurk far more than I post, and I arm wrestle with Poser more often than not.  Most people here are a) friendly, b) helpful, and c) correct.  Hard combination to find. :)

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If you are interested I can upload a Poser for Beginners video from one of my Poser workshops I taught a few years ago.  The videos are good if you are looking for a step-by-step instructions for Poser basics.

 

Hi, I could help you with the heart surgeon part, or the guitar or poser.  but we'll start with poser.

the best way to load your content (until you really get the hang of it you can change later if you wish) is just unzip your folder of bought stuff.  You should have a folder called vickiebigtits or something, with a folder called Runtime inside it.  Now put this vickiebigtits folder anywhere you like. I put mine in a folder called PoserAll that I made on one of my drives.

Now go to poser and go to the right side near the top where your library is (just to the right of the words "show library") and click on the folder with a plus sign.  Locate your vickiebigtits folder and it will get added into poser).  Then from within poser click on the little down arrow just to the right of the show library words and you will be able to navigate to your new folder.  Then there are some circle things just above the show lobrary words, and you can go to props or figures etc there.

 

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Quote - This has really been helpful.

I feel stupid, but that's more or less my ground state so I'm used to it. But I made progress, and I know a lot more now than I did an hour ago, so I am grateful.

The truth is this -- I've ALWAYS wanted to create visual art of some kind. I don't have the innate talent for drawing or painting, so when I saw Poser I thought I might finally be able to create something beautiful. 

Now I have hope that might actually happen. The problems are solvable, and there are cool people who will help. Thanks.

 

 

Don't feel stupid most, if not all of us, have been there and many years down the line I still make the occasional blunder and purchase something without reading the requirements and then find I do not some of the requirements.

I came from a similar point as you, I am just a little further down the road.  I have wanted to be able to produce pictures for years but, like you, my drawing or painting skills were limited or none existant.  Back then I thought I might be able to create something beautiful, these days I know I can.

When you get a moment you might like to take a look at the Poser Gallery here at Rendo, that will give you an idea of what is possible.  Most are produced by Poser users with no formal training and started just where you are now.

 

 

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

Quote - Franktut

If you are interested I can upload a Poser for Beginners video from one of my Poser workshops I taught a few years ago.  The videos are good if you are looking for a step-by-step instructions for Poser basics.

 

 

If it's not too much trouble, I would certainly appreciate seeing the video! Thank you!

Quote - Hi, I could help you with the heart surgeon part, or the guitar or poser.  but we'll start with poser.

the best way to load your content (until you really get the hang of it you can change later if you wish) is just unzip your folder of bought stuff.  You should have a folder called vickiebigtits or something, with a folder called Runtime inside it.  Now put this vickiebigtits folder anywhere you like. I put mine in a folder called PoserAll that I made on one of my drives.

Now go to poser and go to the right side near the top where your library is (just to the right of the words "show library") and click on the folder with a plus sign.  Locate your vickiebigtits folder and it will get added into poser).  Then from within poser click on the little down arrow just to the right of the show library words and you will be able to navigate to your new folder.  Then there are some circle things just above the show lobrary words, and you can go to props or figures etc there.

 

Love esther

 

Aha! So I can have multiple Runtime files, each one located inside a folder I create specifically for a bought item?

Do these new folders need to be arranged in any particular relationship with the Poser folder, or is that irrelevant?

Thanks! It's beginning to make sense. Oh, and I replaced my heart with a pawn-shop swimming pool recirculating pump, so I no longer require a heart surgeon. It's messy, and it makes a lot of noise, but it's a real hit at Halloween.

Quote - Aha! So I can have multiple Runtime files, each one located inside a folder I create specifically for a bought item?

Do these new folders need to be arranged in any particular relationship with the Poser folder, or is that irrelevant?

Runtime folders are children of folders you which to add content to and must be linked to Poser to be recognized in the category Library.  There is a particular hierarchy of folders within runtime necessary for content to be separated so that they may appear properly in each Lilbrary category.  You can create these runtimes manually using Poser's main runtime as a guide, or you can have Poser create those folders for you with a few clicks.  Unfortunately, I am not at my own Poser computer right now but I can provide screencaps this evening to illustrate this process.

You can put these folders containing runtimes whereever you like. Here's a screen cap.. they don't need to be ordered.  Once you ahve a lot of them you'll need a way of loading them all automatically as one at a time is slow. but once they are loaded in poser, then poser remembers them, unless you move them somewhere else.

Love esther

Ps here's how it looks on my mac

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In the folder called M4 is a runtime with the M4 figure.  In earlier versions of poser you used to have to have the daz people in the main poser program folder but not anymore. it's now just like all the others.  same for victoria 4.  Put it anywhere.

Keeping them all separate allows you to install easily and also find the things you need easily.  eg if you buy an item of clothing with several pose files for changing the colours and patterns, then they will all be together.

 

when you unzip your content, mostly it comes with a surrounding folder and a runtime inside it.  If a clothing comes with two runtimes, just merge the two folders together.  Because it is good to have everything that belongs to a particular set in the same runtime folder.  then put the whole thing somewhere where you can find it again, then add it in from within poser. Just try downloading some of the free stuff here and see if you can do it.

By the way only put in free stuff that says it can be used for commercial purposes and that does not require you to credit the maker (or alternatively put the restricted free stuff in a separate folder so you don't mix it up) just in case you make a really nice picture one day and someone makes you an offer eg wants it for a book cover or something.

Love esther

PS heart surgery isn't that hard either.  But you might want to start with practicing on small animals first.

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Poser can add all your runtimes automatically if they are already created on your drive.

Thanks hborre and Ester! I'll set up some new folders tonight, and play with them. I think I see how they should be arranged now.

Really appreciate your rtime and effort!

There are 2 methods to add runtimes to your library, automatically and manually.  There is a built-in script which scans the drive(s) and imports any runtime folders into the open Poser Library automatically.  That script can be found as illustrated in the attached image.

Woohoo! Pardon my outburst, but I just successfully put DejaVu hair by Fabiana on Victoria 4.2!

I understand Runtime files now. Sheesh, if you could see what I was doing before -- but I get it now. I created a folder called DejaVu, and then unpacked the zip files inside it, and then moved them into a Runtime folder. Went into Poser, told it how to find the hair, and bam, there it is!

Feels like a major victory. Now to shape the hair, learn the sliders, play with lighting.

I quite literally could not have done this without all your help. Thank you, thank you, one and all!

Today, hair. Tomorrow, makeup! After that -- the world! Or maybe elbows. Probably elbows, I bet they're tough. But the world any day now!

Thanks!

 

 

 

To add just a single runtime, navigate to the upper right-hand corner of the Library and left click on the folder icon with the running man and plus sign.  A separate window will open, making it easy to browse to your exact folder location, highlight the parent folder of the runtime and press OK.  See illustration.

By the same token, you can also create a new runtime using Poser which will build up the other folders necessary to populate the Library.  Notice the Make New Folder on the lower left hand corner of that window.  The procedure is as follows: 

Navigate to the location you want create your new folder.

Press Make New Folder, and give that folder a content name, i.e., Victoria 4.

Highlight the Victoria 4 folder, then press Make New Folder again to create a new folder within Victoria 4.

Name that new folder runtime. 

Highlight Victoria 4 folder again, then press OK.

Your new runtime is now linked to the Poser Library.  If you use your Window Browser to open the runtime folder, you will notice that all the other folders needed to separate content will also be automatically created.

Congrats!

You're making great progress!  Don't forget to steralize your instruments prior to performing heart surgey.

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Esther, I always dip the salad tongs in moonshine before replacing my secondary aortic valve assemblies.

This hair is awesome. You can move it around, shape it, make it longer or shorter, even add wind. Sure there are by my initial count 11,465 sliders, but that must surely allow for nearly infinite detail and flexibility. 

I begin to see why Poser is so addictive. It appears one has the tools to get things just right.

 

Quote - I begin to see why Poser is so addictive. It appears one has the tools to get things just right.

 

Yep, addictive is the right word and as you hit problems and solve them you learn more, can do more, and the addiction just keeps growing.  Have fun.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

A friend sent me some fancy lights, and they're up and running, no problems!

My current project is to integrate the new hair with the pulled-back short hair that came with the Vicki 4.2 figure. I found a number of skull caps scattered about the generic props, so I'm sure there's a way to mask the stock hair so that it doesn't show through new hair. I'm not going to ask how to do that yet, because I'll probably learn a lot just by stumbling around and trying things.

But it is good to know I can ask questions of you guys! 

Can't wait to post my first complete scene. It will be a week or two, I'm sure, but I'm not in any hurry.

Be careful about content distribution if they are purchased.  Strict licensing prohibits sharing unless these lights were created by your friend exclusively for private use.  Such violations can get you banned for life from most, if not all, 3d sites.

Thanks for the heads-up! But she created them. One is aimed right at the figure's head, so you can better work with hair. 

Her earlier experiences with me led her to believe I am not to be trusted with the little pins on the light control ball. I must admit her trepidation is justified.

 

I'm so happy that you are beginning to see the potential.

well keep the patient hypothermic during the ischaemic time unless you have them on a bypass pump.

And happy rendering.

Love esther

PS do post a render and the results of your patient's echo post op.

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Yeah, you should go back and read some of my first posts.... ewww...

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Last week, I conquered hair, if we define 'conquered' as meaning 'achieved rudimentary success in installing, see also Skill Level: Chimpanzee.'

I'm now working to clothe my Victoria 4 figure, as she has made it plain she has remained nude in the Pose screen for far too long. "Really," her expression says. "Not even a pair of shorts and a sports bra? What are you, fourteen?"

So I bought her a really nice Victorian gown, and installed it in my library (yay!) and -- well, that's pretty much it. I click on the Boots, for instance. I am told they are loading, and then Victoria stamps her foot and mutters something about perversion coupled with incompetence compounded by profound ignorance.

So I'm off to explore the myriad wonders of dynamic versus conforming clothing, the cloth room, and quite possibly the comparative effectiveness of various over-the-counter headache relief remedies. 

But never fear, Victoria, I'll get you clothed yet!

 

 

and did you manage to get conforming clothing working. ie if you applied a pose to V4 did the clothes still fit?

Love esther

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Marvel at the depth of my doltishness.

Remember when I said I bought a Victorian gown?

Well, I thought I bought a gown. In my defense, this time I did check the listing for requirements, and didn't see anything like 'Only works With Gown X.'

Here's what I bought:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/?ViewProduct=74310

And that's what I was trying to dress Vicky in. Which wasn't working. This is very much like the time I tried to apply hair textures directly to a bald head. Good times.

Since then, I have learned that what I purchased were textures and materials designed to modify the real gown, which is found at Contant Paradise. I don't have that yet. I will, in a few moments, and hopefully then I can finally get clothes on Vicky before she starts stamping her foot again.

I offer these little updates as a permanent record of one none-too-bright user's journey through Poser. But now I understand another facet of the environment! So if anyone else out there is struggling, keep the fait, it does make sense, bit by bit.

As always, thanks for your kind words and patience!

 

 

 

for me it is just like de je vouz.  We all had those same experiences when we started out.

MY ONLINE COMIC IS NOW LIVE

I aim to update it about once a month.  Oh, and it's free!

Actually, if you open the editorial tab of that same product, there is a link to the actual steampunk dress at RuntimeDNA, not CP.

Yep been there and done that, in fact I still have textures now that have no clothes to be applied to.  I purchased them because they looked great and never got around to buying the main product.  I guess I should really either delete them or buy the product.  Trouble is I know the minute I delete the textures the product will be put on sale.

 

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

I wouldn't wait too long.  There are instances that textures are still available and the main product is no longer in the marketplace.

About the default hair on Vicky - it's painted on the skin, so in order to get rid of it, I'd recommend getting a character for her. Characters have their own skin files, head and body morphs, and are great fun :) Remember to check for requirements, sometimes you will need the V4 Morphs++ expansion from Daz for the morphs to work, but the new skin will not have hair painted on, so you won't have to fiddle with skull caps. 

You can find several nice ones in the 70% off sale at rendo, or even the 80% off at Daz :)

Time for another update!

I managed to get hair and clothes on Victoria! And boots too, although you can't see those in these shots. Probably a good thing you can't because I still haven't managed to get the high heels set just right on the floor. But with the long skirt, it doesn't matter.

I put her in a pose meant to be thoughtful. Posing a figure is HARD. Most of my attempts looked not just uncomfortable but anatomically implausible. 

I'm not crazy abou her hair or the vacant expression, but there is a recognizably human female depicted here, clothed and complete!

Next week: hair and background work. As always, thanks for your help and comments!

 

The very first item I bought was a texture expansion pack, and then I had to buy the actual clothing figure. Had no idea what all the terms meant.

We all gotta start somewhere, and it always involves mistakes, I don't care who you are.

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Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X/MSI MAG570 Tomahawk X570/Zotac Geforce GTX 1650 Super 4GB/32GB OLOy RAM

Software: Windows 10 Professional/Poser Pro 11/Photoshop/Postworkshop 3

Great render, bet your having fun.

 

Not quite sure from the comment about the heels not being right but if it helps here is what I do.  A lot of the time the shoes or boots come with a 'foot pose' which puts the feet in the right place for the style in question. It is always worth a look and, if there is such a pose it will be in the pose folder under a name related to the product you are using.   You might still need to make adjustments depending on the figure pose you are using but it is a good starting point.

If you are having difficulty placing the heels exactly on the floor you can use the drop to floor under the figure menu in the top bar.  If find this works a lot of the time but not always so my other method is to switch to the bottom camera and look up from beneath the floor.  I then adjust the figure translation on the 'Y' axis and you can see the heels appear through the floor, just adjust until they disappear and you are there.

Finally the vacant look is often related to the eyes.  What I do is place something in the scene such as the ball from the Poser content primitives but any prop will do.  Then select the figure's eyes in turn and under the object menu select 'point at' and when the list drops down choose the ball or prop.  The eyes will now be looking at the ball so you can get the look you want by moving the ball, the eyes will follow.  You can also adjust the eyes individually while still looking at the ball by adjusting the point at value in parameters.

I don't claim ownership of any of these methods as they are just things I have picked up using the forums over the years.  Hope they help.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

The ball trick works, however, based on another forum thread, it is better to parent two such props and have each eye point at it's corresponding ball.  The reasoning around this is to prevent a crosseyed effect if the prop is too close to the face.  In some instances you may want crossed eyes if the character is actually looking at something very close.

Also have the eyes look directly at the camera for something different.

Quote - The ball trick works, however, based on another forum thread, it is better to parent two such props and have each eye point at it's corresponding ball.  The reasoning around this is to prevent a crosseyed effect if the prop is too close to the face.  In some instances you may want crossed eyes if the character is actually looking at something very close.

Also have the eyes look directly at the camera for something different.

 

Good point, I guess I have never had the ball that close or adjusted the point at value.  In furuter I will give this a try as is sounds a better solution. 

One point I forgot to make is to make the ball or prop invisible so that it will not be seen in the render.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

Just a note to community peeps...

The forums really work, don't they? You guys took a frustrated user who had given up and then, through helpful, understanding and informative replies, actually assisted him in enjoying the product he purchased. More than that, he sounds a bit enthusiastic! Hey, he might dump the whole thing in the trash when he tries to use the "Hair Room" to create dynamic hair... which generally only demonstrates dynamic failures whenever I try to use it... But, hey, you guys did something good. :)

I'm just pointing this out because everyone deserves a little recognition, now and then, for their kindness and altruism. And, I would specifically like to salute the original poster who, despite adversity and what were likely long hours sweating over a keyboard, persevered with gusto and conquered the first hurdle with grace.

Well done, all. Well done, indeed.

Quote - I would specifically like to salute the original poster who, despite adversity and what were likely long hours sweating over a keyboard, persevered with gusto and conquered the first hurdle with grace.

Well done, all. Well done, indeed.

 

I will second that, it doesn't matter how much help is given it has to be the user that puts in the effort.  Like any other 3D program, or hobby for that matter, you have to put in some effort to get anything worthwhile out.  To go from be so fruastrated to want to see the program to the point of producing renders as shown here shows a great deal of effort and the OP deserves a lot of respect for not only seeking help, but the effort put in applying it. 

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.