pumeco opened this issue on Sep 29, 2014 · 135 posts
pumeco posted Mon, 29 September 2014 at 12:20 PM
Just wanted to show off a render of my first Poser Character!
Yeah right, ahhh if only that were true. Actually, I thought I'd start a thread where people can just be up-front and post images of the sort of characters they would really like to see in the Poser Marketplace. Never mind whether others might think you're weird, or whether they'll agree with you, just be honest because that's the whole point of the thread, so that vendors can learn what makes your hormones tick enough to actually buy something.
There's a thread discussing the racial aspect of characters and how there's not enough variety, and I agree. Racial difference is probably the single largest thing that attracts you for reasons you can't understand. Different races have notable apects of attractiveness that makes them unique and typical of their race. For example, there are tribes in the Himalayas where the women have the most amazing and extremely captivating eyes that are not seen in any other race of people. There's also somewhere where the women have the strangest snow-white skin and incredibly long thin necks.
One of my own preferences is for women that have thick black eyebrows, a racial characteristic that appears to be notable in Spain, Morocco and others. I'm not aware why I love thick black eyebrows, I just know that I do. The girl in the image attached is typical of the type I mean. To me, her eyebrows alone are an insanely beautiful characteristic, yet it's something I very rarely see in Poser characters.
So what's your "racial hotness" trigger?If you could pick just one thing from any race that attracts you and post a sample of it for potential character development by the vendors here, what would it be? With a bit of luck this thread could be a minefield of information for potential character developers. There's often complaints about the characters not being diverse enough, but that's surely down to a limited insight into racial diversity. There's a lot of extremely beautiful people in the world, so why isn't that getting translated into a characters we would actually pay money for, what's the problem?
Here's a way too short video of the beauty in the screenshot, so I'll go first and use her (typically Spanish I reckon) thick-black eyebrow look as an example of the sort of beauty characteristic I'd personally like to see captured in Poser characters at least once in a while. So you see, while one person might like all those pencil-thin eyebrows on their Poser characters, some of us prefer the opposite, the thicker the better and I don't mind admitting it. To me this girl is just incredibly beautiful, but perhaps she might not have that effect on me if she had regular thin eyebrows.
It's a Racial characteristic you see, and it's something I hardly ever see in my own country. Time to spit it out, what racial features attract you when you see it?
Anyway, click for video of attached girl (Schiller music too)
pumeco posted Mon, 29 September 2014 at 12:39 PM
Yup, thick-black eyebrows (and big green eyes) please, dear vendors!
dnstuefloten posted Mon, 29 September 2014 at 12:54 PM
Like the video.
As far as characters -- I'd like to see older women, with more character in their faces, and other ethnicities -- tho these days I am mostly taking stock figures and changing them to suit me.
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Vaskania posted Mon, 29 September 2014 at 1:07 PM
More ethnicities, fantasy characters, and ethnic fantasy characters.
Pretty white girls that all look like they're from the same family tree with the same makeup options and eye colors are a dime a dozen. I've began sticking with characters from vendors like Maddelirium. Love those bonus textures.
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pumeco posted Mon, 29 September 2014 at 2:40 PM
I know a lot of women think thick eyebrows are "gross", but I'm always attracted to that look so that's what I chose as the feature most attractive to me.
BTW, glad you like the video, I had a feeling you might. Not related to the topic but you might like this one of his as well. He's very creative and obsessive over how his music and videos are done. I think anyone can appreciate the visuals he does (see attached), but you need a nice set of headphones to really appreciate his finesse with sound, he's damn good!
Always weird but killer-cool:
Click for Schiller - Solaris
@Vaskania
And you're another one, post a pic of what you want to see so that vendors get to see what people like. Even for fantasy, post the nearest-looking human. No point saying what features you're bored with, show them what you do like, just like I did. If we post pictures there's going to be times when a vendor thinks, ah, never thought of doing that - I'll try that look for a change. Post something typical of a facial feature you find attractive but you feel is lacking from the Poser Characters.
Pictures speak more than words ever could 
rokket posted Mon, 29 September 2014 at 6:41 PM
I know there are a few really good asian characters in the MP, but they are mostly Chinese or Japanese. Miki 4 is actually supposed to be a mix...
I want to see one I can identify as Filipina. I have been in Asia for the last 30 years and I can tell the difference in the ethnicity of most Asian people. There are no Asian males or females that look Filipino in the market...
If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.
pumeco posted Tue, 30 September 2014 at 9:02 AM
Well I'm glad someone has posted an image apart from me, I was expecting to come back to this thread today and see hundreds of images with people actually showing vendors what they want!
Cheers Rokket, yup, the Asian characters mostly look Japanese or Korean to me, with a few Chinese here and there - but I've never seen a Filipino character for Poser, or if I have, I haven't realised it was a Filipino character.
Hana-Hanabi posted Tue, 30 September 2014 at 9:57 AM
Okay, it's not a racial thing, but...I would really LOVE to see a no-brows head in character packs. That or a special mask for changing the eyebrow COLOR. I am pretty tired of cloning eyebrows out.
I invariably end up doing it on EVERY SINGLE SKIN I USE. Doesn't matter what race skin it is, and I have black, asian, latin, caucasian skins. I need more versatility in eyebrows than character artists are apparently willing to give me. Pout.
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wolf359 posted Tue, 30 September 2014 at 10:07 AM
Pumeco the vendors have given you all the content you need to easily make that Girl you posted with V4Morphs ++ and the "Vanilla Sky" Texture set from Syyd Raven over at RDNA
at any Rate I am SOOOO with you on the Thick, Dark Eyebrow Thing.
booksbydavid posted Tue, 30 September 2014 at 12:09 PM
Me, too. Thick, dark eyebrows. That tweezed, fine line look some women go for is just so 'odd' to me. Just thinking about those eyebrows makes me smile. :)
pumeco posted Tue, 30 September 2014 at 3:44 PM
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@Hana-Hanabi**
Well here's something that might shock you, I actually like that look where there are no eyebrows at all and you couldn't get more opposite to thick-black eyebrows than that!
Yeah I know, weird, but still, I don't think I've seen a Poser Figure without eyebrows either!
**@Wolf
Post a bloody pic then, man, what is wrong with you all?
**It's like with Don who would like to see more older women with character, but without a pic it could mean saggy or MILF, and there's heck of a lot between them!
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**Really cool to know you share my fetish for the brows, but post something to show it. Find a pic of a hottie with thick eyebrows and post it for vendors to see! I mean wow, including David that makes three of us already, so maybe this thick eyebrow fetish isn't so unusual, it's a good indicator that maybe more vendors should try it.
**@David
They always make me smile as well, but I posted a beutiful example of why that is :biggrin:
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I've got a really unusual looking girl to post but I'm not going to until more of you post examples.** ** There's only Rokket has listened and I bet that was just to show his beutiful wife off (just a guess it's his wifey).**
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Zaarin posted Tue, 30 September 2014 at 6:41 PM
I find thick eyebrows attractive as well, like Keira Knightley, for example.
What I'd really like though is more high quality male textures of just about any description. But in particular, not many good Native American men available.
Latexluv posted Tue, 30 September 2014 at 6:49 PM
Part of the problem is the 'retiring' of Merchant Resource bases from the store and how difficult they are to find in the new store software. And I DO mean, difficult to find. I have to put them on my wishlist when I run across them in a store search or I might not be able to find them again. And I personally own 3 Merchant Resource bases that are now gone from the store. Merchant Resource Base skins should never be retired from the store. At least that's my opinion.
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rokket posted Tue, 30 September 2014 at 9:35 PM
Quote - I've got a really unusual looking girl to post but I'm not going to until more of you post examples.** ** There's only Rokket has listened and I bet that was just to show his beutiful wife off (just a guess it's his wifey).
No, she's not my wife. Close to it though. My wife won't allow me to post pics of her on the internet, so I found something in the ballpark.
And believe it or not, the woman I posted in the pic above is over 40...
If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.
hornet3d posted Wed, 01 October 2014 at 5:14 AM
Quote - No, she's not my wife. Close to it though. My wife won't allow me to post pics of her on the internet, so I found something in the ballpark.
And believe it or not, the woman I posted in the pic above is over 40...
That is something I always struggle with, I want my characters to be older than the norm for Poser females, or should I say the percieved norm looking at Poser Galleries. Most of my renders are illustrations for Sci-Fi stories so what would a forty year old woman look like in 100 years time?
Just looking back at my father's generation is enough to see that, in general people of a set age look younger today than the did in his generation.
I also love some of the characters that show great old age so they can be portrayed in fantasy renders as an elderly mage and the like.
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pumeco posted Wed, 01 October 2014 at 9:18 AM
Thanks for posting an image Zaarin, and yup, love Keira's look as well, and wow, so that's four of us like the thick-black brow look but not a single person has said they prefer the pencil-thin look (which most of the vendors seem to be using). I was just reading the comments for the video of the girl in the first post, seeing if I could find out who she is.
There's some obsessive people on YouTube, I think those eyebrows can do epic things to a mans mind, check out these comments:*
"I love that first girl of this video Wwwwwwoooooooowwwww how cute and lovely is she. If i meet her i will take billion kisses of her lips and eyes"*
I know that one would be considered 'sweet' by YouTube standards, but check this one out:
"Is there anybody who provide me proper information about this first video girl I am in love with her without her i will shot myself"
You read stuff like that and can't help but think women should forget beauty magazines with all those ads trying to sell beauty cream, and instead, look into growing a thicker brow, I think it'll have more impact than any cream you ever used - you heard it here first - and didn't even need to buy a beauty magazine!
Zaarin posted Wed, 01 October 2014 at 11:47 AM
Quote - > Quote - I've got a really unusual looking girl to post but I'm not going to until more of you post examples.** ** There's only Rokket has listened and I bet that was just to show his beutiful wife off (just a guess it's his wifey).
No, she's not my wife. Close to it though. My wife won't allow me to post pics of her on the internet, so I found something in the ballpark.
And believe it or not, the woman I posted in the pic above is over 40...
I always thought Michelle Malkin was very pretty. I was shocked when I learned she was old enough to be my mother. :P On the other hand, Asian women don't seem to age as quickly as Europeans. I saw a recent picture of Rosalind Chao (Korean; Keiko O'Brien from Star Trek: TNG and DS9) and she's hardly aged a day. On the other hand, I saw a recent picture of Terry Ferrell (Jadzia Dax, DS9--aka the most beautiful woman ever) and she's still gorgeous--even though she is the same age as my mother. O_O
And since you wanted pictures..
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pumeco posted Wed, 01 October 2014 at 1:08 PM
@Zaarin
It's them eyebrows again!
@All
Ok, here's the unusual girl I mentioned, no CG, she really looks like that. Don't know who she is, I just know her as the "Sony Alien Girl", she's someone they used for some creepy ad campaign. She seems very confident with her looks, which is cool really because when you think about it, how cool must it be to resemble an alien?
She can honeslty claim to be utterly unique. Anyway, just an unusual look I thought I'd put out there. I bet the Poser vendors haven't done a real humanoid alien look yet, and after listening to the clip I have to wonder, is she a typical Scottish girl?
Can I go to Scotland and get one?
Ah well, click to see video of a real Alien Girl
Zaarin posted Wed, 01 October 2014 at 2:01 PM
I have a hard time believing that she naturally looks that way, especially if she's Scottish. I'm guessing there's some serious plastic surgery involved. Her nose, eyes, cheeks, and chin look particularly sculpted.
pikesPit posted Wed, 01 October 2014 at 2:06 PM
Hello pumeco,
thank you for sharing this. Realy unusual!
However (if I may): I doubt that this is a human.
In fact, I rather believe that this is a Poser character... and the hair looks so bloody close to "Twin Fair Hair", with bangs made invisible...
Just morph the hair's parting a tad downwards to get that "broad" bald parting: The resemblance is striking.
Then you only have to scale the head xScale, and do some extreme morphing: Voilà!
I may be wrong (really hard to tell in such an extreme example!). If I should be right, it at least proves what can be done with V4 (which I believe is the base figure)
If I should be wrong, please just ignore my post :)
Regards
Peter
pumeco posted Wed, 01 October 2014 at 2:24 PM
LMAO, both of you, seriously that's how she is, I'm not teasing, she's for real.
It's part of a creepy bunch of ads Sony commissioned for their PlayStation, I even read that some were so creepy they were banned and never got aired. Here's another one from their creepy ad campaign, but of course this one is CG:
Click for another creepy PlayStation Ad
I don't know if it ever got aired on TV, but if it did, I'm guessing if gave a lot of kids nightmares come Christmas!
Nice one, Sony :woot:
obm890 posted Wed, 01 October 2014 at 4:19 PM
Quote -
Ok, here's the unusual girl I mentioned, no CG, she really looks like that. Don't know who she is, I just know her as the "Sony Alien Girl", she's someone they used for some creepy ad campaign. She seems very confident with her looks, which is cool really because when you think about it, how cool must it be to resemble an alien?She can honeslty claim to be utterly unique. Anyway, just an unusual look I thought I'd put out there. I bet the Poser vendors haven't done a real humanoid alien look yet, and after listening to the clip I have to wonder, is she a typical Scottish girl?
Quote - LMAO, both of you, seriously that's how she is, I'm not teasing, she's for real.
Pumeco, if you don't know what you're talking about it's better to shut up. Her name is Fiona McLaine (Maclean?) and she does not look like that in real life.
http://www.director-file.com/cunningham/sony-playstation-mental-wealth/
pumeco posted Wed, 01 October 2014 at 4:26 PM
Oh thanks for that revelation, obm890, the name "Chris Cunningham" in the title is the big give away (he's a world famous video artist) but it was fun to watch people questioning themselves!
You could have at least left it a bit longer!!!
pumeco posted Wed, 01 October 2014 at 4:56 PM
BTW, did anyone notice what had happened to the timecode by the end of the video?
It had changed into PlayStation Controller code!
Ah well, eye types for me tomorrow I think, I have some eyes that are quite amazing although I'll have to stick em all on to one image because we can't do multiple attachments here.
pumeco posted Thu, 02 October 2014 at 6:40 AM
Can't be bothered to assemble a collage of eyes, might as well post them seperate.
First-up the famous Afghan Girl, cause you can't talk about awesome eyes without mentioning her. When you think what absolute power we have in Poser to do absolutely any eyes we want by simply drawing a bitmap, makes me wonder why none are as captivating as this pair.
I'd love to know what she was thinking for her to look at the camera like that. Crazy, wild, like she was ready to kill at the snap of a twig, a bit like the look Roxie gives if you mention a Vicky!
More eyes later.
rokket posted Thu, 02 October 2014 at 7:38 AM
You mentioned a Vicky...
If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.
pumeco posted Thu, 02 October 2014 at 9:36 AM
Anyway, more eyes, this time they belong to a woman from Rajasthan, India. There's actually quite a few photos of this woman because she's become a sort of celebrity with street photographers. I hear you can go up to her in the street, give her money, and she'll pose for your camera!
India is home to millions of women with amazing eyes though, you'd be spoilt for choice if the documentaries and images I've seen are anything to go by and India is one of the places I absolutely am going to see some day!
wolf359 posted Thu, 02 October 2014 at 10:21 AM
Perhaps not as "captivating" but I Like this set for P6 jessie from former merchant Shaharra.
these are made from a very good merchant resource kit derived from actual photographs.
All of the hand painted eye maps I see in poser& Daz/genesis look very, very fake to me
so until I see otherwise I have actually exported these eyes in all of the colors provided, as obj files and import and replace them in All of my C4D poser figure renders via a special Merge command.
wolf359 posted Thu, 02 October 2014 at 10:31 AM
wolf359 posted Thu, 02 October 2014 at 10:56 AM
You just have to creative with your existing content and not depend so much on merchants to create exactly what you want to see.
Zaarin posted Thu, 02 October 2014 at 12:48 PM
Quote - When you think what absolute power we have in Poser to do absolutely any eyes we want by simply drawing a bitmap, makes me wonder why none are as captivating as this pair.
The basic reason is that painted eyes simply don't look as good as eyes based on photographs, but only a few vendors take the time to clone out the reflections and specular, especially on dark eyes.
pumeco posted Thu, 02 October 2014 at 6:16 PM
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@Wolf**
WTF, you're like some sort of Frankenstein doing eye transplant stuff like that, but anyway, I think I prefer the second one of those, just seems to go better.
Regards the Merchant Resources, yup, LatexLuv mentioned that as well but I'm surprised that such things are thin on the ground. I've never actually used one but I assume they're just skin texture resources etc, and if they are, why not just create them from your own skin if necessary?
If people use clone brushes from these resources anyway then it's not really going to matter who or or even what sex it came from. Couldn't you just samle certain parts and change the colouring in postwork to create your own kits?
Same with eyes, you only need one and then all you have to do is recolour it, surely?
@Zaarin
Yup, I hate to see built-in reflections and highlights on Poser products, really bad. I don't get why people do that because the raytracer sees to the highlights and reflections.
BTW, did anyone else get a notification saying that "LouisCross" had posted? Have to ask because it might be R'osity playing up again. If it's like last time, the post is probably visible to everyone else, but I won't see it until tomorrow!
LouisCross posted Fri, 03 October 2014 at 3:06 AM
No I posted a picture.
But the one compressed to posting size lost its WHAW factor.
pumeco posted Fri, 03 October 2014 at 4:20 AM
Ah, right, but did you know they still load full size if you click on them?
Wouldn't worry about forum compression if you wanted to post a pic.
Also, if the source image is really large, just make it smaller before uploading it then the maximum filesize is spending less being massive and I think that allowes less compression (could be wrong though).
hornet3d posted Fri, 03 October 2014 at 5:14 AM
This is my attempt after following the thread on realistic eye reflection using all of the suggestions from BB and tweaked for personal preference.
I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 - Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU . The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.
wolf359 posted Fri, 03 October 2014 at 10:36 AM
Actually many years ago the merchant "Black hearted"
sold a set of excellent hi res smart prop replacement eyes for the abysmal default eyes on the DAZ M2 &V2 figures
so its not that unusual what I am doing with my eye props in C4D.
wolf359 posted Fri, 03 October 2014 at 10:38 AM
Agreed on Hair but honestly the "Baked in" reflections
,on well done photo based eyes ,work for me most of the time under most lighting conditions
But still the aforementioned merchant "Shaharra" was kind enough to provide versions of his eye mat poses without the baked in reflections as well, for those who wish to use actual ray traced reflections from their scene environment,
Zaarin posted Fri, 03 October 2014 at 11:18 AM
Quote - <Yup, I hate to see built-in reflections and highlights on Poser products, really bad. I don't get why people do that because the raytracer sees to the highlights and reflections.>"
Agreed on Hair but honestly the "Baked in" reflections
,on well done photo based eyes ,work for me most of the time under most lighting conditionsBut still the aforementioned merchant "Shaharra" was kind enough to provide versions of his eye mat poses without the baked in reflections as well, for those who wish to use actual ray traced reflections from their scene environment,
True, they can look okay if your lighting is just right--but that does constrain the lighting you can do. If you set your eye shaders up right (the ones BB posted recently work fantastic) and set up a proper scene--either with a full set off camera or an HDRI--the reflections will be more realistic and non-scene dependent.
pumeco posted Sat, 04 October 2014 at 6:33 AM
Sorry Wolf, have to agree with Zaarin, and personally I would never use anything with baked-in highlights or reflections. There's really only one position it will work in and that's the position the vendor rendered it in. I just just don't see the point in it when the renderer sees to all that stuff.
It's more limiting than anything else.
Hornet, I think the neck looks a bit hefty for a woman, but what mesh is that?
Doesn't look like a Roxie or a Vickie.
hornet3d posted Sat, 04 October 2014 at 6:53 AM
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Hornet, I think the neck looks a bit hefty for a woman, but what mesh is that?
Doesn't look like a Roxie or a Vickie.
The mesh is Vicky, 4.2WM, to be exact. The chracter scaled to a relative five foot nothing but she is still a heroine so I was aiming for a petite but strong character. So I am very much going against the normal V4 render. I have also tried to make her look a little more mature than your average Vicky. Your right though, the neck does look to be a bit heafty, particularly for a woman I must take a closer look. She is a long term WIP for me and has had more face lifts and body modifications than most Hollywood stars.
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pumeco posted Sat, 04 October 2014 at 9:55 AM
Good luck with the WIP, and congrats for shaking-off the V look which is easier said than done, I really didn't think it was a V, not in the slightest.
If she's a Heroine though, maybe the neck is ok, I didn't realise she was that figure type. I suppose if she's anywhere between Heroine and Super Heroine it would fit, just don't forget to post the body though :woot:
I've never joined in, but I used to love reading those Super Herione type threads on the DAZ forums. No one ever seems to do that here though (which surprises me), it seems mostly technical stuff and not enough themed art threads - would love to see a Super Heroine themed thread on here. Wasn't that long ago I used to hate to see women with muscles but I got to liking it after seeing those threads. I've always liked to see them drawn, but it wasn't until later I started to like the 3D versions that people were putting out.
Yup, shame there's no such threads here, I'm quite shocked about that considering the fantasy element of the figures and such sold here.
hornet3d posted Sat, 04 October 2014 at 11:44 AM
Full length render with a standard height M4 for comparrison.
I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 - Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU . The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.
pumeco posted Sun, 05 October 2014 at 8:54 AM
Looking good, Hornet!
Must admit I was thinking of her more as an Amazon woman in a loincloth from the head only shot :biggrin:
And speaking of Heroes, I wish they'd go back to the more classy stuff. No matter how hard I try, I honeslty can't think of a hero with more class than Condorman! He had an awesome car, clip-on wing attachment, boat, and above all, he had a way with women that would put even James Bond to shame!
You never hear of Condorman, though, he's a true Superhero, great movie as well!
Click for a clip of Condorman doing his women thing - sheer class!
MuonQuark posted Mon, 06 October 2014 at 2:28 PM
Can I join the conversation? :-)
I would love older characters of all ethnic types, with wrinkles and age spots and the whole aging thing.
Love variety; big, small, short, tall, fat, skinny, scifi, fantasy, ugly, pretty, dark, pale, etc. Would just love more variety!
:-)
pumeco posted Mon, 06 October 2014 at 3:28 PM
Michelle, you know very well you can join in, but behave yourself, and check your PM!
MuonQuark posted Mon, 06 October 2014 at 3:46 PM
Done and done!
:-)
booksbydavid posted Mon, 06 October 2014 at 4:07 PM
MICHELLE!!!!! 
pumeco posted Mon, 06 October 2014 at 4:16 PM
@Michelle
You haven't clicked, silly, I can't even see you on my list!
@David
Yeah, I notice you couldn't get on my list quick enough, and just so you know, it's not an invitation to make advances at Michelle or any of my Peasant Girls.
Hands off unless you're told!
MuonQuark posted Mon, 06 October 2014 at 4:48 PM
@ David. DAVID!!!!!!
@Pumeco - Ok, I know what happened. I am at work and I have my Firefox settings really tight so I will fix everything tonite when I get home. Can I be friends with David too?
;-)
pumeco posted Mon, 06 October 2014 at 7:08 PM
It's ok as long as he doesn't try anything funny!
You know what he's like, we both do :-P
MuonQuark posted Mon, 06 October 2014 at 9:39 PM
Ok, all done!
pumeco posted Tue, 07 October 2014 at 6:56 AM
@Michelle
Thanks, and I hope you don't mind but I've decided to post that picture of you in your Belly Dancer costume. I just wanted vendors to see it, and to make the males of the forum jealous that you are on my friend list.
BTW, I'm getting a new camera maybe at Christmas (hint hint) - so we could do more if you want!
@David
I didn't know you were a locksmith?
booksbydavid posted Tue, 07 October 2014 at 11:05 AM
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It's ok as long as he doesn't try anything funny!
You know what he's like, we both do :-P
Huh? What? I'm not in the least bit funny. I mean, well.... I'm not funny. That's all.
MuonQuark posted Tue, 07 October 2014 at 11:54 AM
Anyways, here are a couple of examples of the variety I would like to see. Something new, something different. I did these in DS but they can easily be done in Poser as well. This is Michael 4 with morphs from Morphus (at DAZ3d) and morphs++. An oldie but still a goodie.
MuonQuark posted Tue, 07 October 2014 at 11:56 AM
pumeco posted Tue, 07 October 2014 at 1:16 PM
Thanks for posting samples, but regards that last one, I thought it was only the Brits that had crooked teeth :scared:
He looks like the Woodkeeper in one of my Horror films, but I can't remember which one!
MuonQuark posted Tue, 07 October 2014 at 1:34 PM
Naw, he's just a good old boy as we say here in the US.
:-)
pumeco posted Wed, 08 October 2014 at 7:16 AM
Well, you know best Michelle, but I still wouldn't trust him in the woods!
booksbydavid posted Wed, 08 October 2014 at 11:25 AM
And we should trust you in the woods?
pumeco posted Wed, 08 October 2014 at 1:06 PM
Of course you can trust me, but I'm really nice!
But in general it's not a good idea for women to go into the woods alone, it's too risky. I've got lots of horror films based on true stories and you'd be surprised what happens to women who venture into the woods alone, I really wouldn't recommend it.
MuonQuark posted Wed, 08 October 2014 at 1:35 PM
We need a chat thread somewhere so we can pop in from time to time to say hello. But not in the woods......
pumeco posted Fri, 10 October 2014 at 1:32 PM
You can say hello to me anytime, Michelle, you know that :woot:
I see the thread is positively thriving with pic contributions again so thought I'd liven it up even further with one my all time fave subjects, girls with guns! There's a lot of these in the Marketplace but none have convinced me to buy one yet, so who knows, these girls might serve as inspirational tips for a skillfull vendor or two.
icandy265 posted Sat, 11 October 2014 at 10:51 PM
Since it was this post that inspired me to create it I may actually release a few eye textures for free if there's a demand for it hehe :) Hope you like them... let me know if you're interested...
icandy265 posted Sat, 11 October 2014 at 10:55 PM
Oh I forgot to add... the character is Yaana for V4 by moonbunnie:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/yaana-for-v4-2/71625/
Hair is Lua Updo by 3Dream:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/lua-updo/98898/
(previously mentioned but just to clarify) Eyes are by me :)
Gator762 posted Sun, 12 October 2014 at 9:07 AM
Indeed. I thought Michelle Malkin is one of the prettiest ladies out there. I tried my hand at creating my own copy - which makes me wonder why I haven't done more renders.
Gator762 posted Sun, 12 October 2014 at 9:08 AM
Dale B posted Sun, 12 October 2014 at 5:03 PM
Quote - "WTF, you're like some sort of Frankenstein doing eye transplant stuff like that, "
Actually many years ago the merchant "Black hearted"
sold a set of excellent hi res smart prop replacement eyes for the abysmal default eyes on the DAZ M2 &V2 figures
so its not that unusual what I am doing with my eye props in C4D.
Oh hell yes! I still use Black Eyes wherever possible. The things you can do now with shaders added.....
Come to think of it, thats' on my to do list. Work out the patching needed to set those puppies into all the figures I can work them into (and there are a lot) and save the setup back into the runtime. Would cut a lot of time of that setup procedure, at least....
Dale B posted Sun, 12 October 2014 at 5:06 PM
Quote - > Quote -
If she's a Heroine though, maybe the neck is ok, I didn't realise she was that figure type. I suppose if she's anywhere between Heroine and Super Heroine it would fit, just don't forget to post the body though
Full length render with a standard height M4 for comparrison.
Or she could just have a couple of jar heads for parents. That'll thicken up -any- neckline.....
EventMobil posted Mon, 13 October 2014 at 8:24 PM
Answering your question what we 'want': I recently sculpted this character on my own (V4 based), because I wanted it.
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EventMobil posted Mon, 13 October 2014 at 9:36 PM
How I am bored to find all those poser characters with inflated balloons replacing realistic breasts. These ugly things are so hard to remove, once they are overinflated, can we please have normal breasts, which everybody who feels like it can easily make ugly with silicon morphs... The balloon morphs are available everywhere, but the 'unballon' morphs are not working on those monster breast...
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EventMobil posted Mon, 13 October 2014 at 9:56 PM
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EventMobil posted Mon, 13 October 2014 at 11:41 PM
Thank you, dear Ghost Admin, for adding the nakkid flag instead of removing the image !!! :-)
When I realized I had forgotten to check this, it was too late and I could no longer edit my post :-(
I assume it was AmbientShade watching here? Anyway, thank you <3
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Zaarin posted Tue, 14 October 2014 at 4:14 PM
Quote - I consider Trudy Charcon most attractive, and vendors, PLEEEEEASE: faces are NEVER, I say again, NEVER EVER symmetrical!!! One eye is almost always a little higher than the other, same with the ears, nose usually a little sideways and one of the nosrils smaller than the other, the mouth almost NEVER horizontal, please study reality. The teeth, I'm going to show you in my next post...
This is something I've been very careful to pay attention to (insofar as M4/V4 allow it) with my commercial morphs. So many characters for especially V4 just look wrong because they're perfectly symmetrical and without any flaws. Also V4 has freakin' goldfish eyes, but just set EyeSize to -0.1 to -0.2 and that's taken care of. ;)
Zaarin posted Tue, 14 October 2014 at 4:18 PM
Quote - In terms of eyes... I created these eyes (not the character, the character was bought here) in about 10 minutes (I make a lot of eyes, so it's rather easy for me these days)... the sclera, lacrimals and iris were all created with real textures from 3d.sk (brilliant site)... I also use raytrace reflections, so there is no burnt in specular what so ever... I don't know about you, but I happen to love these eyes and think they are pretty close to the vibrance and "light" of the eyes in a lot of these photos... I plan to make many more based on different photos so there's a variety...
Since it was this post that inspired me to create it I may actually release a few eye textures for free if there's a demand for it hehe :) Hope you like them... let me know if you're interested...
Those are gorgeous. Yes please! :D
pumeco posted Thu, 16 October 2014 at 6:28 AM
@icandy265
I'm glad to hear the thread actually inspired someone
Yup, liking the eyes (and the eyebrows), and actually, I think it's best that you didn't bake-in anything. As for uploading it, I think you'd be allowed to use Renderosity for it, and probably best you do for these, much better than using download host and I notice someone is already waiting in anticipation!
@Gator762
Judging by the amount of "Girls With Guns" in your gallery I'd say we share a like for such things :woot:
@EventMobil
Trudy is quite a babe, and I've always liked Keira!
Regards the 'Black Beauty' and her brests, I agree. I think I said it in another thread some time ago, I don't really have a preference for any size of breast. Large or small, makes no difference to me as long as they suit the body they're attached to. The girl in your pic would probably look ridiculous with massive breasts, I can tell that even though she's clothed. Things start to look odd when they don't match up.
icandy265 posted Thu, 16 October 2014 at 3:26 PM
All right each iris is going to be based on their own photo (again from 3d.sk) so it will be a few days before I upload them... :)
wolf359 posted Fri, 17 October 2014 at 8:20 AM
"@EventMobil
Trudy is quite a babe, and I've always liked Keira!"
Ummm.. You guys do realize that
"Trudy Charcon"
was merely the name of the Fictional Character in "Avatar" portrayed by the Actress
Michelle Rodriguez...correct?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0735442/
pumeco posted Fri, 17 October 2014 at 10:57 AM
I was just using the names EvenMobil used 
EventMobil posted Sat, 18 October 2014 at 7:07 AM
Quote - "@EventMobil
Trudy is quite a babe, and I've always liked Keira!"Ummm.. You guys do realize that
"Trudy Charcon"
was merely the name of the Fictional Character in "Avatar" portrayed by the Actress
Michelle Rodriguez...correct?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0735442/
Laughing, yes, I wanted to relate to the character she played, too... Supercool ;-)
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pumeco posted Sun, 02 November 2014 at 4:18 PM
Just thought I'd bump this thread, two reasons really.
After reading Wiz's post, I was curious if my own thread would bump to last post as this one was created before the changeover.
Hopefully Wiz will acknowledge if he sees this.
Second reason is actually a compliment: going back through this thread after the change is actually an improvement regards images, they're huge now, or at least the ones that are actually uploaded to Renderosity are. Obviously it doesn't change the size of the others. But yup, I just looked through all the pages of this thread and it looks better with the picture formatting at least. The images definitely look better edge-to edge (sort of infinity-pool style).
I really hope they keep this picture format, so at least something got improved :woot:
Please, add some "Multiple Image" buttons though. I've never understood the logic in limiting it, because all it means is that we have to make another post, and that's messy compared to allowing miltiple images in a single post. And while I'm at it, another compliment is that I see "Video Embedding" is supported (or about to be), and even better, you have "Vimeo" listed as a supported format. Well done there, Vimeo is a good site, I like Vimeo and I always get pissed off when sites support YouTube but not Vimeo,
Thankfully, Renderosity are better than that, so a big thumbs up to them for that :-)
moriador posted Mon, 03 November 2014 at 12:17 AM
I'm not sure whether to go by the title of the thread or by the OPs first post. I guess I just don't think that whether a character is attractive or not has much bearing on whether it's useful to me. In fact, given the plethora of good looking young men and women in my runtime, I've got far more attractive characters than I'll ever actually use.
My favorite recent purchases bear this out: Mildred and Myrtle plus a couple of Senile Santas from Tempesta here, and Jiggerman by Brahann from RDNA. In other words, what I will buy is what I don't already have. And I don't need any more twenty year old gods or goddesses regardless of ethnicity.
Thankfully, there are some very, very good aging and faceweight morphs available for Genesis 2, so I can at least make those characters appear a little less perfect.
But I understand that vendors want to sell what sells. If so, it doesn't matter what we find attractive or not. It's what people with money to burn find attractive, and that seems to be a very specific look.
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pumeco posted Mon, 03 November 2014 at 5:31 AM
You're right, and as it turns out, I might have been better off calling this thread TEAT (Thick Eyebrow Appreciation Thread) :-D
That should be an interesting thing for vendors to observe for though (a tip), because in the course of just three pages, four of us have effectively spoken in support of thick eyebrows, yet not a single person has reacted with a "thin looks better to me" type of comment. It's a good indication that the thin look the vast majority of vendors go for, might be worth changing to thick look at least once in a while.
BTW, thanks for posting, it's your first post on this thread so I know it must have got bumped to last post.
Maybe Wiz might has a setting screwed-up on his account.
WandW posted Mon, 03 November 2014 at 8:47 AM
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WTF, you're like some sort of Frankenstein doing eye transplant stuff like that, but anyway, I think I prefer the second one of those, just seems to go better.
Bagginsbill has a free eye model...
https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/free-stuff/bbeye
EventMobil, The girl on the right must have been the model for V3's shoulders... :D
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pumeco posted Mon, 03 November 2014 at 9:08 AM
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Cheers, but I'm avoiding everyones helpers and scripts and stuff (for now) until I get my head around the technicalities of the renderer and nodes a bit better than I have so far. If I downlod the BB stuff I'm worried I'll get idle and won't bother trying to learn the stuff I need to. I'm still trying to get it do do Anamorphic stuff properly, it's probably dead easy to do with a very obvious way to do, it but I've not figured it out, so to me, that's a problem I have to deal with.
Still, I only have a stab at it now and then, so that's my excuse for still figuring it all out :-D
moriador posted Mon, 03 November 2014 at 6:37 PM
That should be an interesting thing for vendors to observe for though (a tip), because in the course of just three pages, four of us have effectively spoken in support of thick eyebrows, yet not a single person has reacted with a "thin looks better to me" type of comment. It's a good indication that the thin look the vast majority of vendors go for, might be worth changing to thick look at least once in a while.
Well, that depends on what you mean by attractive -- and who's doing the buying. I expect that a great many characters are bought by women -- hence the "thin eyebrows" and the enormous variations in fingernail shapes and colors (something I don't think most blokes really pay any attention to) and all the makeup options and different colored eyelashes, etc, etc.
The popular vendors most likely know, by now, exactly what their particular customers prefer, and they are producing repeated iterations of that look over and over. It does get tiresome, just as the same outfits over and over gets tiresome. But they need to make a living AND there are fairly easy ways we, as customers, can adjust a purchased product more to our liking.
I prefer thicker -- more natural -- eyebrows in women, myself. So I totally agree that changing the look occasionally might not be a bad idea.
Of course, as I pointed out, character textures aren't fixed. You could just pick up an eyebrow pack and add some extra follicles that way.
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hornet3d posted Tue, 04 November 2014 at 4:26 AM
"Of course, as I pointed out, character textures aren't fixed. You could just pick up an eyebrow pack and add some extra follicles that way."
Totally agree.
As a bloke I must be in touch with my feminine side as I do play with the make up and fingernail shapes and decoration. After all, well manicured decorated nails does not really find a place in Sci-Fi and fantasy fight scenes but it does on a night out, or it does in my take on the future. I have a number of items I have purchased in the past that allow me to change the make up and the nails, but it has been a few years since I have purchased anything along those line because these days I adapt the texture myself.
It would be unfair of me to encourage vendors to create make up designs or different shaped in eyebrows if I have no intention of buying such items, which is why it is dangerous so assume a liking based on the lack of comment. I know you raised this to generate interest, which I hope it does, but to assume that people don't like thin eyebrows just because no-one has asked for them is not necessarily valid.
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pumeco posted Tue, 04 November 2014 at 5:38 AM
Well, I'll be perfectly honest here, the chances of me buying something even if this thread inspired it, are practically zero.
Not being snobbish or anything, but I hardly ever buy content, and when I do, it's always generic stuff that can be put under a lot of use. For example, I bought the Morphs++ for V4 (before Roxie you understand), because they're a general use thing. But stuff that gives a sort of limited amount of use, I would never buy it, hell, I don't even download it when it's free - I prefer to have a bash at it myself. The thread really is for anyone to let rip, to post examples of stuff they'd like vendors to produce, stuff they think vendors would do financially better with if they produced it - stuff that perhaps they think does not exist because others would likely see it as unattractive.
It was also posted because at the time, the forum was pretty quiet and I was bored out of my mind :-D
pumeco posted Fri, 21 November 2014 at 7:03 PM
Was looking through Roxie's playlist and found this video among her Scooter stuff. No doubt Roxie has it for the beat, but nevertheless, it also happens to have an awesome party babe in it, one with nice eyes, so I thought I'd add her here!
Sadly, she only makes short appearances scattered throughout the video, but that's better than nothing I suppose, you'll just have to excuse the stupid hockey shots inbetween and wonder to yourself what on earth Scooter were thinking by filling their video with more shots of a bloody hockey team than the dancing girl!
WFT is the world coming to, it's a Scooter vid for crying out loud!
Anyway, Click Here for hotness and nice eyes!
PS: If there's anyone here not jumping around to this track, you should check you have a pulse, peeps :-D
Boni posted Mon, 24 November 2014 at 7:14 AM
Here is a character I've been developing, and some of the points made here are covered. Thicker brows, (displ/tramsparency mapped to the upper brow so it can be made black if you want) and I did an extensive study on eyes to come up with these. I wanted a more real looking face with a nose rather than a bump and more shape. The morphs are finished (inj/rem files complete) but I am still fine-tuning the textures. The body is more realistic as well if you want to have a peek.
Boni
Here is a hint to the body. ...
Boni
"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork
Boni posted Mon, 24 November 2014 at 7:34 AM
OH, please note, I forgot to mark nudity in my last post! I am so sorry.
Boni
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Boni posted Mon, 24 November 2014 at 6:01 PM
New character ... thick eyebrow and black. Hope you like. early stages.
Boni
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pumeco posted Tue, 25 November 2014 at 2:58 AM
Looking good, Boni, the detail is lost in shadows though. I'm wondering if you have your gamma set wrong or you have your monitor brightness set too high, and that it's influencing your judgement on the output. I can barely see the eyebrow details on the black babe, but on the white one I think I'd make the eyebrow hair strands thinner but have more of them, make them more dense.
Oh, and it's nice to see what looks to be a true Redhead for a change, I hardly see that on Poser characters, it's usually some other weird colour.
I was going to suggest turning the reflection down on the eyes a bit, but again, you might have set it like that due to your gamma or monitor settings - the reflections on the eyes are really stand-out super-glassy and I think that's down to your viewing settings somewhere :-)
pumeco posted Tue, 25 November 2014 at 1:04 PM
Some of those reading the forum earlier today will be expecting this post (especially Vilters) :-D
I was looking to post more eyes the other day and remembered the girl you're about to see. But while I watched the video through, I was taken back at just how much she reminded me of Roxie. Yes, I found the eyes I wanted to post (she has amazing eyes), but I was more taken back by the fact that she looked so much like Roxie, and in so many ways that I got very curious and analytical about it.
I must have played the video through six times in succession so that I could observe diffrerent aspects of her, and on each pass, the more I started to wonder if Roxie was actually inspired by this girl. There's a lot of viewing to do if you want to be truly analytical about it, but put it this way ...
Face shape = PASSED (even in profile)
Body shape = PASSED (even in profile)
Breast shape = PASSED (even in profile)
Hips = PASSED (even in profile)
Skin colour = PASSED
BMI = PASSED
Height = PASSED
Age = PASSED
Eye sockets (brow form) = PASSED
Eye colour = PASSED
Eyebrows = PASSED
Load-up a default Roxie in the viewport and then play the video a few times, switching back to the viewport between plays so you can orbit Roxie and make some analytical comparisons for yourself.
The question is, did we just see the real-life inspiration for Roxie?
Click Here and see what you think!
RorrKonn posted Tue, 25 November 2014 at 4:43 PM
pumeco Don't get why Artist would need another's work to show what they want .
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Boni posted Tue, 25 November 2014 at 5:06 PM
"Looking good, Boni, the detail is lost in shadows though. I'm wondering if you have your gamma set wrong or you have your monitor brightness set too high, and that it's influencing your judgement on the output. I can barely see the eyebrow details on the black babe, but on the white one I think I'd make the eyebrow hair strands thinner but have more of them, make them more dense.
Oh, and it's nice to see what looks to be a true Redhead for a change, I hardly see that on Poser characters, it's usually some other weird colour.
I was going to suggest turning the reflection down on the eyes a bit, but again, you might have set it like that due to your gamma or monitor settings - the reflections on the eyes are really stand-out super-glassy and I think that's down to your viewing settings somewhere :-)" ~ Pumeco
The gamma settings are turned off. Intentionally. I found them to be muting the SSS way too much for my taste. I'll bring them back and test them. The woman I modeled the "redhead" after is actually of Norwegian ancestry (or at least she portrayed that in many of her roles) but I did work hard to get the textures more accurate. The brows are ... done purely in the transparency channel. But also hooked up to the bump/displacement. The face texture is no-brow. Again this allows the user to change the color of the brow at will. Thank you for your kind words about my models. I will work on the morphs for the second model as I put that together in about 4 hours trying to capture a blue-black texture, and failing that just a pleasant tone so there is a minimal of morphs on her.
Boni
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Boni posted Tue, 25 November 2014 at 5:26 PM
Ok, haven't used Roxie ... loaded her up and am rendering her with makeup ... waiting for render. You have me curious.
Boni
"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork
vilters posted Tue, 25 November 2014 at 6:18 PM
Sorry to disagree, but nothing "passes".
Not the brows, not the eyes, not the lashes, not the nose, certainly not the mouth nor the cheeks.
Facial BMI is less.
Screengrab is from 2;11 into the clip, scaled to fit. (I used the eyes centerpints to do the fitting to Roxie
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vilters posted Tue, 25 November 2014 at 6:35 PM
Side , sorry again.
Neckline, Jawline, no underchin, cheeks, mouth, nose, eye position, nothing fits.
A good singer, and I like the song, but, LOL, not a Roxie at all.
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vilters posted Tue, 25 November 2014 at 6:45 PM
Recheck of the front.
Screengrab from the end of the clip. (Eyes centerpoints used for scaling.)
Sorry, but nothing fits.
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vilters posted Tue, 25 November 2014 at 6:51 PM
But Roxie would be my number 1 canidate to morph her into Nathalie.
Morphing the face, lots and lots of little details to adapt.
But the body looks OK.
And add elbow tips, LOL; (Roxie has none.)
Complete makeover of the upper arms also required. => Roxie's upper arms are very-very thin when viewed from the side.
Nathalie has thick and naturally curved upper arms.
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pumeco posted Tue, 25 November 2014 at 7:07 PM
@RorrKonn
Just listened to your CD although I'm not sure what your talking about with your comment, was you replying to an earlier post?
@Boni
Sounds like you have it all worked oput regards how the brows work then. I haven't even begun to play around with using different types of eyebrows other than actually just drawing them on. And yes, have a play with Roxie, but try to be a bit more open minded than our good friend Vilters. I think he forgets were're comparing a perfectly symmetrical mesh to a human :-P
@Vilters
I'm not saying she a perfect clone, you crazy person, I'm just saying she looks like the girl who might have inspired her overall look, build, size, figure etc, but even if she didn't, that's still bloody close I reckon, Tony, even your own screengrabs look extremely close.
Even in your own images, there's a few things to bear in mind. On that head-on shot, look again at her lip shape top and bottom, it's identical and I never even mentioned the lips being the same, they're just smaller on Roxie. The head-on shot is also different because of the camera lens, Natalie is up-close to a real lens, so her lips and nose are going to look larger anyway - exaggerated by the field of view. But look closely again at the shape of the lips (even though I never mentioned the lips).
Side view, again, Natalie has her neck forward whereas Roxie doesn't, and that changes the jaw line somewhat. In the same posture the difference would not be that great. Also in the side view, check out the eyes, Roxie's looking forward but Natalie is looking down with her head slighly tilted back, had they been the same, again, there really isn't that much in it. But yup, what I'm getting at is if you look at Roxie, her body, her hips, breasts, general build, age, height, the type of face, eyes, and eyebrows she has, the general face shape etc, she looks extremely close to Roxie, to me anyway.
Put it this way, if I wanted to do a Natalie Imbruglia lookalike with a Poser figure, I think I'd be 90% done just by loading Roxie into the viewport :-D
Anyway, YouTube embedding is working, I still see "Roxie" walking through that door and dancing around, check the rest this time, figure, build etc:
RorrKonn posted Wed, 26 November 2014 at 12:00 AM
pumeco quote @RorrKonn Just listened to your CD although I'm not sure what your talking about with your comment, was you replying to an earlier post?
Did you like the CD ? I really liked the song "Stars". can't say I'm a big fan of the remake song "drive"
but then again I was never a fan of the "band the cars".
I was saying about ya thread .
I don't get why you need to post photos of ya dream girl.
Your a CGI Artist make ya own dream girl exactly the way you want her. post that.
I wouldn't be surprised if the CGI Artist that created Roxie was a Natalie Imbruglia fan.
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pumeco posted Wed, 26 November 2014 at 6:22 AM
@RorrKonn
The thread isn't about dream girls, lol, I have lots of dream girls but I'm crap at 3D (far too slow at it) so I can't make them in 3D unless I spend a lot of time at it. I was originally hoping people would post things they find attractive but think that others won't for whatever reason (my first example was that a lot of people find thick eyebrows absolutely gross - but I don't). The idea being that vendors might try something different if they see something and think ... hmmm ... might try that.
But anyway, it's become more of an OT thread to kill boredom now, so feel free to post anything as long as it's within the TOS.
You can post your CG dream girl if you want, RorrKonn ;-)
Regards your CD, it's not what I'd normally listen to but I thought it wasn't bad, at least I didn't find myself skiping any. I agree about the "Drive" remake though, I thought they flattened-out the chords a bit too much, I think it would have sounded a lot better if hadn't done that - I think they removed a bit too much musicality by doing that. When I listened to the album, the overall thing, I thought about this song which is similar in some ways to what they do, but seems to be a lot more melodic. If Sixx:A.M. took more time on their chords I think they'd sound a lot more melodic as well, like this one, so you might like this one as well :
pumeco posted Wed, 26 November 2014 at 7:46 AM
"I wouldn't be surprised if the CGI Artist that created Roxie was a Natalie Imbruglia fan."
Well, that would be the man himself, Teyon, because he was the guy who created Roxie.
He's also the guy who just posted a rather interesting tease on the matter, did you see his comment?
Either Roxie is indeed inspired by Natalie Imbruglia, or Teyon is "Honestly Torn" and is the biggest tease on the planet ;-)
Click Here <--- Hahaha!
Boni posted Wed, 26 November 2014 at 8:29 AM
To get back on topic. I've noticed that some folks have nice uneven skin-tones ... more natural looking. A little soft noise, clouds perhaps? Some are slightly bluish. The MR's that I have found are pretty unnaturally even. Any tips on that for a future vendor from other vendors?
Boni
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pumeco posted Wed, 26 November 2014 at 8:47 AM
I'm not a vendor myself, but I was just about to suggest that thread by MLP - but I see you've already spotted it.
Looks like Baggins was about to post something there, along the lines of what you're talking.
pumeco posted Wed, 26 November 2014 at 10:32 AM
Ok, Roxie, are you sitting down?
I notice you've been very quiet since the Natalie thing was brought up, but I can put your mind to rest.
I just spoke with Teyon on the forum, and he said that although Natalie is very pretty and the song is great, you wasn't inspired by her, in fact you're different even than the girl who really did inspire you. So, while you can't claim to be inspired by the famous and pretty person you thought, you can at least claim to be utterly unique, and let's face it, I think we all knew that already!
Yeah, listen, you had me wondering about this stuff, I even missed a Cheeburger, dumbass!!!
Natalie is cool and all, but she does singing and I do poetry, so you should have known by that!!!
Plus, Natalie hasn't got a blade like I have, she probably has a microphone instead!!!
Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade
pumeco posted Fri, 05 December 2014 at 10:52 AM
Watched this complete movie on YouTube the other night.
It's called "Ariana's Quest" in English, and it was a bit of a bummer it's not actually in English, and there's no subtitles either, but after watching the first five minutes I was hooked and had to watch the rest. It was a surprisingly enjoyable film even apart from it having Superheroine Warrior Babes in it. Couldn't understand a word they said but it was still good, and I understood the movie even without subtitles.
For those who do medieval stuff, scenes, props, costumes and the like, this is pretty good (it's full of it), and of course the Superheroine is a fine specimen!
Trust me, click below, watch the first five minutes and you'll be hooked too :-D
pumeco posted Mon, 09 February 2015 at 5:10 PM
Are there any serious movie lovers here, someone who has a good selection of film types under their belt?
I thought I might as well use my old thread to ask here. I'm trying to find a film I don't know the name of, and to make matters worse, I don't know the names of any of the people who starred in it. I know for a fact that the film is French, and it's at least 6 years old because I've been able to work that out by various means. It centred around two girls, around twenty years old I reckon. One of the girls (the main girl) was a bit tomboyish, she had very short black hair, and her friend had longer lighter coloured hair (I think). I believe it was set in Paris (but could be wrong), and either one (or both) of these girls worked in some sort of factory. I think they were working on sewing machines or something like that. In fact, I think that's probably how they came to meet, become friends, and decide to rent a flat together. It was quite a dreary-looking/feeling film, and by dreary I mean it felt very 'real life' and it seemed as if the film was made in such a way as to not be specifically anything, if that makes any sense at all. It was dark but not a horror, it was a serious 'real life' sort of film but with a strange feel to it.
It's just one of those things that has stuck in my mind, and whenever I think about films I almost always start trying to figure out a way to find it again; that damn film, what's it called? I only ever saw it once and it was at least 6 years ago, shown on Film4 as part of a 'French Film Season' no doubt. But it's not just for this specific film I want to know about it, it's because I want to know who the director is, because for such a generic film to stick in my mind like that, I'm pretty sure I'll take a liking to any other films the same director has produced. For some reason it felt very different to other films, that's probably why it's stuck in my mind like it has.
But yup, tried everything, even to the point I went browsing through every French film sold on Amazon and still didn't come across the bloody thing, and that did surprise me because it seems unbelievable that such a good film would not be on their catalogue (it must be). I've even tried searching photos of French actresses, hoping that if I spot the tomboyish girl with the short black hair, I'd be able to locate the film by her name, but even that failed to turn-up anything useful.
So anyway, maybe someone here is into French films or foreign films in general, and if you are, and you know what I'm talking about, please speak-up because I've been trying to locate this one for years now and it's just been an absolute waste of time so far - very frustrating.
Teyon posted Mon, 09 February 2015 at 6:32 PM
Is it "deux jours une nuit"?
pumeco posted Tue, 10 February 2015 at 5:29 AM
Couldn't type it in fast enough, but no, that's not it :-(
But thanks, and actually, looking at the screenshots of that movie, it had a similar feel about it, only I remember it looking more grim. The one you posted looks clean and pristine, but the one I'm talking about, everything seemed less cared for and older/worn looking. That said, it's very possible that it was the film itself that was grim and not the visual aspect, I just can't remember, I don't even know what it was about, didn't seem to be about anything other than life I suppose. If I saw the tomboy girl, I'd know her in an instant, her face is still very clear, she was pretty attractive as well if I recall, so it's even more puzzling why I can't find even a trace of her - she must have been in more films than the one I'm talking about.
FishandChips posted Wed, 11 February 2015 at 2:24 PM
im working on this character.i gave her an exotic look.almost asain or russian. that pic on top is amazing man, what render engine do you use, that was your first character? wow. how do get results like that?
pumeco posted Wed, 11 February 2015 at 3:09 PM
She'd definitely pass for part Asian, part Russian :-)
perilous7 posted Thu, 12 February 2015 at 2:57 AM
i just wana jump here and say to all the people who produce morphs for v4 and genesis 2 females,can you PLEASE make a female head that doesnt have massive lips? please look at reference pictures of females actual lips?
A cleaved head no longer plots.
http://www.perilous7.moonfruit.com
pumeco posted Tue, 17 February 2015 at 10:00 AM
Well you expect that, don't you, to find a European film on an American website when you can't even find it on a European one!
Found it (yay), found it the other day through Amazon.com rather than Amazon.co.uk, although I see it's on Amazon UK now I know the name.
I've been trying to find out more about it, and it seems the director "Érick Zonca" hasn't really done much else (only one other feature film). It's a shame cause I read this film was his debut, and it was damn good if I recall. It's called "La Vie Rêvée des Anges" which in English translates to "The Dreamlife of Angels". Strange title it has considering the film was anything but a "Dreamlife" from what I remember - lol
Sadly there's no Blu-ray release yet (unbelievable, pull your finger out of your arse, Sony), so it looks like I'll have to wait a bit longer before I see it again. Nothing on YouTube either, other than a bunch of fake uploads pretending to be the full movie (and clips that aren't even from that movie). But I did find this clip on Amazon, and although it looks ok, it really doesn't do the film justice.
The film was definitely very different and a lot darker than the title and trailer suggests, maybe it's intentional to make it hit harder when you see it, could be.
Anyway, glad I found it - Click Here for Trailer
pumeco posted Tue, 02 June 2015 at 6:30 PM
One of those awesome tracks where, everytime I hear it, I can't resist playing it a quite a few times over again!
duanemoody posted Sun, 07 June 2015 at 8:08 PM
i just wana jump here and say to all the people who produce morphs for v4 and genesis 2 females,can you PLEASE make a female head that doesnt have massive lips? please look at reference pictures of females actual lips?
I actually noticed this trend in a few of my designs and built at least one tentative design who specifically doesn't possess the ability to suck a golf ball through a garden hose.
pumeco posted Sat, 18 July 2015 at 4:12 PM
Duane Wrote:
"I actually noticed this trend in a few of my designs and built at least one tentative design who specifically doesn't possess the ability to suck a golf ball through a garden hose."
I suppose a girl with lips like this is totally out of the question then?
EldritchCellar posted Sat, 18 July 2015 at 6:51 PM
How about spaghetti?
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pumeco posted Sun, 19 July 2015 at 7:17 AM
How about spaghetti?
Thanks for posting her, Primorge, she's very nice!
For me the spaghetti and meatballs are a bonus cause it's one of my faves (as long as mother makes it). Those ones that come in the cartons aren't up to much I'm afraid. Sometimes the sauce is ok depending on the brand, but the meatballs are never anywhere near as good as the home-made ones my mother makes - and she isn't even Italian!
Anyway, time for some more inspiration for vendors, this time from a French girl, but not just any French girl. Whether this is true or not, I don't know, but I read somewhere on YouTube that they once ran a survey, and the result was this girl was voted 'Sexiest Woman In France'. If that's the case then maybe her look would be worth capturing in a figure (or at least inspiring one) - the comments on YouTube are certainly enthusiastic and promising enough :
Zev0 posted Sun, 19 July 2015 at 7:39 AM
Dammit Pumeco, If you are going to post a vid of Alizee, do it right!!! And yes she has that innocent but naughty vibe to her:) In fact when I first started sculpting she was one of the first faces I used as reference:) I was a huge Alizee fan back in the day. Think I still am lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6omsDyFNlk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCwHOAI_OQk
pumeco posted Sun, 19 July 2015 at 10:57 AM
Zev Wrote:
"Dammit Pumeco, If you are going to post a vid of Alizee, do it right!!! And yes she has that innocent but naughty vibe to her:) In fact when I first started sculpting she was one of the first faces I used as reference:) I was a huge Alizee fan back in the day. Think I still am lol."
Hey Zev, I didn't know you was a big Alizée fan, lol, she certainly has a nice catalogue of tracks, superbly produced as well. I have her "Mes Courants Electriques" album which is extremely good, in fact I don't recall there's a single filler on it, or if there is, even that must be good.
So anyway, where's that Alizée-inspired figure of yours?
You can't just say stuff like that and not let us see her :-D
As for the video, yup, she's hot in that video you posted, but I still like her better in the one I posted. Maybe that's just because she's getting covered with water and her nipples are showing if you full-screen it and have good eyesight. No doubt you're aware that there's a slighlty different video edit of that track when sung in French, so in case you haven't seen it, here's the French version with a slightyl different video edit.
She's slightly more cheeky in this one as well :
Zev0 posted Sun, 19 July 2015 at 11:05 AM
So anyway, where's that Alizée-inspired figure of yours?
Oh those were just test sculpts. I never save those. Probably can do a much better job now anyways lol. Maybe I'll play a bit doing more faces when I get some free time.
pumeco posted Sun, 19 July 2015 at 1:16 PM
@Zev
Well, feel welcome to post them here if you have another go at it, would love to see it.
It's not as if you could fail in the looks department if you pull it off well enough ;-)
BTW, was just listening to the CD and in fact there are a few fillers on it, I was thinking of something else. That said, apart from the obvious good one that was posted above, I thought these two were real gems. Different style to the other tracks, these are more classy-sounding and I really wish she'd do more stuff like this, especially with that silky-soft vocal of hers.
Anyway, getting OT, but these two were quite a surprise when I heard them, they are of course totally destroyed in clarity on YouTube, but they sound spine-tinglingly goosebump-amazing on my system (completely different experience) :
duanemoody posted Tue, 21 July 2015 at 6:42 PM
Duane Wrote:
"I actually noticed this trend in a few of my designs and built at least one tentative design who specifically doesn't possess the ability to suck a golf ball through a garden hose."I suppose a girl with lips like this is totally out of the question then?
implying
pumeco posted Wed, 22 July 2015 at 8:07 AM
I saw her in the other thread, I liked the body but the eyes look a bit odd. Maybe if you opened her right eye more it would improve the eyes, cause although her right eye is closer to the camera in this shot, it's actually smaller than the one further away.
Hair is far too shiny, would look a lot better if you went easier on the specular :-)
duanemoody posted Fri, 24 July 2015 at 6:26 PM
The eyes look odd because this is a test model to see what morph adjustments I'd neglected to bake into the INJ pose. Z translation of the eyeballs was one of them accounting for the weirdness.
The hair's default specular is too sharp and in my other renders I usually dial it down before rendering (and remember to change its skinning to PSS to round out those polys).
But dem lips tho?
Winterclaw posted Fri, 24 July 2015 at 9:26 PM
Actually, I thought I'd start a thread where people can just be up-front and post images of the sort of characters they would really like to see in the Poser Marketplace. Never mind whether others might think you're weird, or whether they'll agree with you, just be honest because that's the whole point of the thread, so that vendors can learn what makes your hormones tick enough to actually buy something.
You know, with all the female actresses that have been turned into characters, I'm a little surprised certain adult entertainers haven't as well. NVIATWAS and all that. Should they? Dunno. If they haven't, I wonder why not. I mean many vendors did a take on angelina jolie. I've seen a sigorney weaver and at least one scarlett johannason. But um... starlet X,Y, or Z? Can't say I've seen them.
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Winterclaw posted Fri, 24 July 2015 at 9:31 PM
To get back on topic. I've noticed that some folks have nice uneven skin-tones ... more natural looking. A little soft noise, clouds perhaps? Some are slightly bluish. The MR's that I have found are pretty unnaturally even. Any tips on that for a future vendor from other vendors?
You could probably fix this by playing around with either clouds, fractals, or a combo of the two. Just make sure they aren't using global coordinates.
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pumeco posted Mon, 27 July 2015 at 4:48 AM
@Duane
The lips aren't too bad, and actually, she looks quite nice in the avatar you just uploaded :-)
@Wintercalw
To be honest, some of the Poser characters I've seen look better than some of the starlets :-P
Giana posted Mon, 27 July 2015 at 5:31 AM Online Now!
surprised no one's even attempted a Cara look-alike - at least i've not seen one...
Dulcinea posted Tue, 28 July 2015 at 1:44 PM
Actually, I thought I'd start a thread where people can just be up-front and post images of the sort of characters they would really like to see in the Poser Marketplace. Never mind whether others might think you're weird, or whether they'll agree with you, just be honest because that's the whole point of the thread, so that vendors can learn what makes your hormones tick enough to actually buy something.
Has anyone started a post yet? I'm sorry if you have & I am missing it.
pumeco posted Tue, 28 July 2015 at 9:30 PM
@Giana
First character that comes to mind when looking at Cara, is Roxie, shouldn't be too far off with a bit of tweaking and face matching!
That makeup would look pratically identical even around default Roxie's eyes I reckon.
@Dulcinea
I'm wondering if your browser is having problems showing images cause there's quite a few in here now!
