So, to deactivate your user account here you have to:

"... first sign into your account and remove your gallery, friends, free-stuff, wish-lists and favorite lists, and remove any notifications you have set (e.g.gallery subscriptions, site mail notifications, newsletter, daily digest,etc. Once you have done this, please send an email to admin@renderosity.com and your account can then be closed."

Seriously?

Is this place so incompetent that you have to jump through all those hoops just to close your account?

I think it'll be easier, and more fun,  just to get permanently banned...

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We do this in order for you to make sure if there is anything important associated with your account.  You may want to download any images you have in case you wanted them.

Did you write into admin@renderosity with this request?

I will be happy to assist you but we do hate to see any members leave.

Tina Kaylor

Community Manager

Nooo Snarly can't go! I won't allow it!

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Can the Powers That Be kindly add an addendum to the TOS stipulatin' that Grib needs full permission from the chat regs to leave?

Tanx  :D

WARNING!

This user has been known to swear. A LOT!

Chat regulars just can't survive without their daily dose of snarly so nope not allowed to go 

Say it isn't so!!! (even if I understand how ya feel) :(

Laurie

It is a sad day when one of the most popular people in chat and in the forums wants to deactivate his account. It says more about the state of RO than anything. We will miss you Snarly, hope you will keep in touch in some way.

Locked Out

don't go, snarly.  besides, they never ban anyone for life - they always give a reprieve.

We do this in order for you to make sure if there is anything important associated with your account.  You may want to download any images you have in case you wanted them.

Did you write into admin@renderosity with this request?

I will be happy to assist you but we do hate to see any members leave.

What happens if you don't do any of that stuff and die? Does that mean you have an account at Renderosity for all eternity. Hey, look at that!  The forum spellcheck doesn't recognize the site name as being spelled correctly.

Snarly pleaese don't go! I have missed talking to you a whole lot. I hope all is well. You have brightened my days more then you know it. I have loved talking to you so very much. And my life has been greatly blessed because of you. You are a apart of my little online family and the thought of not talking to you really saddens me.  But if you go... know that you have made my life so much better and every day I think of you. You could always make me laugh and knowing you has been a great joy. I love your creations and programs. Thank you so very much for all you have done Snarly I love you so very much!!.  Snarly if you stay I will adopt the cat even though the family will rebel at me. Please don't go Snarly you are loved!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!  Do Not Want!!!! :(

However, I must say that I was adjusting my signature last week and happened across that menu item and looked there myself, so I hope you were just curious, too; I'd miss you lots! :)

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“I could buy better software, but then I'd have to be an artist and what's the point of that?"
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I think I blinked and missed something, why does Snarly want to leave, what happened?

I think I blinked and missed something, why does Snarly want to leave, what happened?

In case you hadn't noticed, folks like Snarly and Bagginsbill find the new forum software useless and painful. I don't want to speak for either one of them, but I suspect that's a big part of it.

Whoa, when someone like me or my alter-ego (DeathMetalDesk) contemplate such a move it's easy to chalk it up to mood swings or a penchant for creepiness... When important fixtures of this community such as Snarly or BB indicate such a desire there's a real problem here. While I respect your dissatisfaction I humbly hope that you reconsider, Snarly.

Unbelievable.

@Glitterati
Oh I definitely noticed that, I don't think any of us like the new forum design though, so maybe he lost a massive post or something, I know I have a few times.

Hang in there, Snarly, at the very least you know we share your frustration.  And anyway, you can't leave because that would decline the number of Brit's around here, you can't just leave us here with all these crazy Americans and a Belgian :-)

You cannot be serious, 'gribbly, you must be mad!

Since the last "downgrade" of this forum, activity has dropped to an all time low.

In brief : The forum is a mess, and more and more members are fed up and leaving.

And as a result? RDNA activity (and others) has grown exeptionally high.

Want to rescue the forum? Restore to december 2010, before the last 3 downgrades.

Just look at the multiple and multiple and multiple headers here consuming . . . . . .
Tony shut up, go elsewhere.
Not a soul is reading any more. . . . . .

Poser 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, P8 and PPro2010, P9 and PP2012, P10 and PP2014 Game Dev
"Do not drive faster then your angel can fly"!

Yeah, listen Gribbly, that's just sick!!!

Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade

"In brief : The forum is a mess, and more and more members are fed up and leaving."

...and here I thought it was just my overactive imagination.

Hey, Snarlly!

:)

Since the last "downgrade" of this forum, activity has dropped to an all time low.

In brief : The forum is a mess, and more and more members are fed up and leaving.

And as a result? RDNA activity (and others) has grown exeptionally high.

Want to rescue the forum? Restore to december 2010, before the last 3 downgrades.

Just look at the multiple and multiple and multiple headers here consuming . . . . . .
Tony shut up, go elsewhere.
Not a soul is reading any more. . . . . .

Actually, Tony, I didn't actually leave Rendo. I like it here.  DAZ is the only forum I hardly ever post in anymore. I'm even starting to post more at Hivewire.

Earl, a few years back, I also opened this forum every day (Still do)

But a few years back, there where at least 2 pages of new treads "every day". (A single page of new treads was rare)
Now you can be happy to see 2 new treads a day, and a handfull of posts.

if this continues, they can fire half of the staff.

Poser 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, P8 and PPro2010, P9 and PP2012, P10 and PP2014 Game Dev
"Do not drive faster then your angel can fly"!

What worries me most is "who" is going.

Geep, BB, Snarly?

Man, those are the hearts and souls of POSER.

That are  ome of the most motivated and most capable and most helpfull guys around.

Comapred to those? I feel very-very-very small.

Realy, it hurst so see them go.

Poser 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, P8 and PPro2010, P9 and PP2012, P10 and PP2014 Game Dev
"Do not drive faster then your angel can fly"!

Not surprised. 

Nothing interesting is happening in the forums anymore.  What I am more concerned about is hearing from more than 1 vendor, on more than 1 storefront is that 'Rosity isn't interested in supporting non-DAZ figures.  Once is an accident, two is a coincidence, but 3 is enemy-action.

I am deciding whether or not to renew my Prime membership.  The quality of the site does figure into that decision.  'Rosity seems to be moving in the wrong direction - I don't think being a DAZ.com wannabe is a long-term bet.

BTW, is anyone else having the "phantom message notification"?  When I visit the main page, my email icon is lit, and my inbox says I have a message, but damned if I can find it.

I have to admit this place is a whole lot less fun and considerably more hard work to use than ever before.  It runs like cold treacle on my machine, unlike every single other forum I frequent.  It's such a pain in the rear end to use that I have to consider whether or not it's worth the effort to post a comment.  I strongly suspect that's the case for many other members, too.

Honestly, Rendo guys, this forum software is absolutely horrible.  Please, please, pretty please, change it back.

Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.

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@ssgbryan
I've had a phantom notification for private messages just once, but quite a few for forum posts in recent months.

What SamT  and vilters said...

Laurie

@ssgbryan
I've had a phantom notification for private messages just once, but quite a few for forum posts in recent months.

Ok, so it isn't just me - that is good to know.

Earl, a few years back, I also opened this forum every day (Still do)

But a few years back, there where at least 2 pages of new treads "every day". (A single page of new treads was rare)
Now you can be happy to see 2 new treads a day, and a handfull of posts.

if this continues, they can fire half of the staff.

Maybe, but let's face it, over at RDNA, most of the posts are only in about two or three threads. Most of which is off topic. I oughta know, I started two of them, and they're both about a year old.

Earl, a few years back, I also opened this forum every day (Still do)

But a few years back, there where at least 2 pages of new treads "every day". (A single page of new treads was rare)
Now you can be happy to see 2 new treads a day, and a handfull of posts.

if this continues, they can fire half of the staff.

Maybe, but let's face it, over at RDNA, most of the posts are only in about two or three threads. Most of which is off topic. I oughta know, I started two of them, and they're both about a year old.

That's funny, I just pulled up the forum and New Posts link and got a full page of posts that have been updated today.  Certainly none of them a year old. Frankly, the RDNA forum has way more traffic since RO's "upgrade."

Earl, a few years back, I also opened this forum every day (Still do)

But a few years back, there where at least 2 pages of new treads "every day". (A single page of new treads was rare)
Now you can be happy to see 2 new treads a day, and a handfull of posts.

if this continues, they can fire half of the staff.

Maybe, but let's face it, over at RDNA, most of the posts are only in about two or three threads. Most of which is off topic. I oughta know, I started two of them, and they're both about a year old.

That's funny, I just pulled up the forum and New Posts link and got a full page of posts that have been updated today.  Certainly none of them a year old. Frankly, the RDNA forum has way more traffic since RO's "upgrade."

I said the threads were a year old, not the posts.

Not surprised. 

Nothing interesting is happening in the forums anymore.  What I am more concerned about is hearing from more than 1 vendor, on more than 1 storefront is that 'Rosity isn't interested in supporting non-DAZ figures.  Once is an accident, two is a coincidence, but 3 is enemy-action.

If vendors aren't creating content for non-daz figures, how is that Renderosity's fault? I don't understand the logic in that statement. Aside from sets and prop pieces, I haven't seen much of any new content for non-daz figures being published at any site, other than HiveWire. 

We are working on putting together some forum contests and challenges with actual prizes, just takes time to get details worked out. 

Not surprised. 

Nothing interesting is happening in the forums anymore.  What I am more concerned about is hearing from more than 1 vendor, on more than 1 storefront is that 'Rosity isn't interested in supporting non-DAZ figures.  Once is an accident, two is a coincidence, but 3 is enemy-action.

That is simply not true. I have seen content for both Dusk and Dawn, and what about the new influx of Star content?

That said, I can see the frustration.. even making a simple post is a puzzle if you want to quote someone, and what happened to being able to preview your post?

Not surprised. 

Nothing interesting is happening in the forums anymore.  What I am more concerned about is hearing from more than 1 vendor, on more than 1 storefront is that 'Rosity isn't interested in supporting non-DAZ figures.  Once is an accident, two is a coincidence, but 3 is enemy-action.

That is simply not true. I have seen content for both Dusk and Dawn, and what about the new influx of Star content?

Whether it is true or not, more than 1 vendor has stated that their content was rejected - and having seen the quality of content that is being accepted, I don't think that is the issue.

Whether it is true or not, more than 1 vendor has stated that their content was rejected - and having seen the quality of content that is being accepted, I don't think that is the issue.

While I agree that some of the content that has been released lately has been somewhat 'lacking', I also keep in mind that the one vendor I have so far seen expressing what you say, is a vendor that has a bit of a, shall we say, 'reputation', and I would take what they say with a grain of salt. But that's just me. So far I see no sign of Rendo dismissing non-daz figures.

Since the last "downgrade" of this forum, activity has dropped to an all time low.

In brief : The forum is a mess, and more and more members are fed up and leaving.

And as a result? RDNA activity (and others) has grown exeptionally high.

Want to rescue the forum? Restore to december 2010, before the last 3 downgrades.

Just look at the multiple and multiple and multiple headers here consuming . . . . . .
Tony shut up, go elsewhere.
Not a soul is reading any more. . . . . .

I don't see a lot of topical conversations anywhere.  Without having access to the numbers, my impression is that forum traffic is becoming more off topic and less of it. I can see why Snarly is leaving, I don't spend any real time here anymore either.

googling site statistics show that 'rosity is still at the top of the poser-related sites in terms of traffic and sales by a significant margin. Anyone interested can run the same scans and find those results from multiple analytical sources, comparing the top poser sites and see for themselves.

So while forum activity may be low, traffic is still quite high.

I'd say the primary reason activity is down in general is due to a lot of people moving on to other interests, more advanced software, etc. There's a lot more available to the CG hobbyists now than there used to be. I do agree that the forum software needs work. 

What worries me most is "who" is going.

Geep, BB, Snarly?

Man, those are the hearts and souls of POSER.

That are  ome of the most motivated and most capable and most helpfull guys around.

Comapred to those? I feel very-very-very small.

Realy, it hurst so see them go.

I have to agree and the word that really upsets me the most is the word 'going' rather than moving.  I have learnt so much from the names listed, and many more not mentioned, but they don't seem to be moving to another forum (if they are please let me know which one) which means they are a loss to the whole 3D community. I still shop here, far too much this month, thanks to so many sales, and I suspect I will continue my prime membership but I am finding more and more that I spend more time at RDNA than in this forum.  Go back a couple of years and my habit was to visit this forum every day and RDNA about once a week.  Now I visit RDNA everyday and sometimes I can go two to three days to without visiting here.  In addition I have started putting some of my images up in the RDNA gallery something I never used to do. 

It is not only the forum either, OK I accept that some of these issues are only seen with Internet Explorer but, if you go into the galleries and then select a drop down, the menu list displays beneath the header so some options are hidden.  If I want to credit a vendor I have to fire up Google Chrome because the option does not work with IE.  In short the Rendo site has a lot of niggling little issues which add up to making it frustrating to use sometimes. 

RDNA on the other hand seems to be slick in comparison and the forum there is a joy to use.

 

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

We are working on putting together some forum contests and challenges with actual prizes, just takes time to get details worked out. 

• Excellent looking forward to that!

• One of the reasons that the forums aren't popular as much as before is that it always ends up being a software discussion with heightened emotions like people take thinks personal when you don't use a certain software.

• I just don't get it, it's a tool like a pencil, I'm not offended by people who use a brush instead of a pencil.

• I for one I'm very glad that the chatregulars use all kinds of softwares in harmony, we teach eachother and learn from eachother, like it supposed to be, like it used to be in the forums...

• Big hug to all chatregulars, you guys are great!

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"I just don't get it, it's a tool like a pencil, I'm not offended by people who use a brush instead of a pencil."

What!? How dare you not be offended by people who use a brush instead of a pencil, Biscuits!?

Ahhhh, I'm kidding... I just like saying Biscuits. Biscuits.

We are working on putting together some forum contests and challenges with actual prizes, just takes time to get details worked out. 

• Excellent looking forward to that!

• One of the reasons that the forums aren't popular as much as before is that it always ends up being a software discussion with heightened emotions like people take thinks personal when you don't use a certain software.

• I just don't get it, it's a tool like a pencil, I'm not offended by people who use a brush instead of a pencil.

• I for one I'm very glad that the chatregulars use all kinds of softwares in harmony, we teach eachother and learn from eachother, like it supposed to be, like it used to be in the forums...

• Big hug to all chatregulars, you guys are great!

I can't argue with any of that and RDNA has the same problems, not surprising when it is often the same people, even if they do use different names. I guess other forums suffer in a similar way and the moderators have thankless job in that they are either accused of stifling conversations, taking sides or something much worse.  Problem is that the people leaving now are the ones we would like to hug, thus leaving the field to even more of the 'my software is great' or 'my view is the correct view' contributors.  Then throw into the pot issues like your last thirty minutes of typing disappearing because you tried to do something really whacky like a cut and paste, and the fun content of the forum heads ever closer to zero

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

• One of the reasons that the forums aren't popular as much as before is that it always ends up being a software discussion with heightened emotions like people take thinks personal when you don't use a certain software.

• I just don't get it, it's a tool like a pencil, I'm not offended by people who use a brush instead of a pencil.

• I for one I'm very glad that the chatregulars use all kinds of softwares in harmony, we teach eachother and learn from eachother, like it supposed to be, like it used to be in the forums...

• Big hug to all chatregulars, you guys are great!

I'm sure there are people who argue over which tool or medium is better in almost any industry or field. Cooking, Science, photography... trust me, they all have fights. And sometimes, rather passionate ones.

googling site statistics show that 'rosity is still at the top of the poser-related sites in terms of traffic and sales by a significant margin. Anyone interested can run the same scans and find those results from multiple analytical sources, comparing the top poser sites and see for themselves.

So while forum activity may be low, traffic is still quite high.

How much of Rendo's bustling 'traffic' is just frustrated visitors struggling to get around this stupid site? Taking 3 attempts to post a forum reply because the stupid forum software doesn't work, taking 5 attempts to do a simple store search because the stupid store software doesn't work, having to go via 5 other pages to get from a gallery image to the see the rest of the artist's gallery because there's sometimes no direct link, being unable to go directly to the last page of a forum thread because it doesn't show as having multiple pages... I guess a city with messed up road signs would also have a lot of 'traffic' - a lot of people driving around pounding their steering wheels shouting 'WTF??!'

I'm sure there are people who argue over which tool or medium is better in almost any industry or field. Cooking, Science, photography... trust me, they all have fights. And sometimes, rather passionate ones. - Well I luckily never came across a software war in the modeller softwares. Maybe there were but I was not aware of them. Naieve blisss...Lol

• What does it matter if you use Modo, LW, C4D or Max. Offcourse one can have a discussion about features and such and offcourse passion is so important for artists, but when it becomes personal and it offends, it crosses the border and becomes rude...I have to zone out then, rather use my energy to create.

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Experiences vary depending on what browser you're using. I use Chrome and have had no problems with the forums or the store in quite a while, but I know there have been some people that have had issues using IE. 

You can post any problems you're having to the Marketplace Customer Service forum and make them aware of it if they aren't already. Or the Community Center forum for more general issues not specific to the store. Just be sure to give as much detail as possible - which browser, etc. Admin are usually pretty quick at looking into specific issues when brought to their attention.

What worries me most is "who" is going.

Geep, BB, Snarly?

Man, those are the hearts and souls of POSER.

That are  ome of the most motivated and most capable and most helpfull guys around.

Comapred to those? I feel very-very-very small.

Realy, it hurst so see them go.

Les Bentley has been gone for many months, too.  I sent him a site mail a couple of months ago and it was never read; I hope nothing happened to him... :(

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“I could buy better software, but then I'd have to be an artist and what's the point of that?"
"The [R'osity Forum Search] 'Default' label should actually say 'Don't Find What I'm Looking For'".
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You can post any problems you're having to the Marketplace Customer Service forum and make them aware of it if they aren't already. Or the Community Center forum for more general issues not specific to the store. Just be sure to give as much detail as possible - which browser, etc. Admin are usually pretty quick at looking into specific issues when brought to their attention.

I would do that if I though something might actually be done about it. Unfortunately, what typically seems to happen here is that you report a specific issue with details and screenshots, a friendly forum moderator acknowledges your post, and then nothing.

Lots of interesting and pertinent points made in this thread.

I'm also somewhat humbled by the kind words expressed by many of you. I half expected a PM or two asking why I was going, but certainly didn't expect all this. Thank you :-)

Anyway - TinaK has offered via sitemail to discuss my reasons for going. I shall take her up on that kind offer but will keep the discussion private, as all sitemail should be. Looking through this thread I see that I don't really need to explain anything anyway, as the issues seem to be well-known. I am, however, tired of coming to this site and leaving disappointed, frustrated, annoyed and sometimes even saddened. There is no room in my life for those feelings.

To clear up some important points:

• I love Poser
• I won't be stopping using it any time soon :-)
• There will be more Snarly freebies one day, but you might have to hunt them down
• If people want to keep in touch and find out what I'm up to, it won't be too difficult
• Did I mention I LOVE Poser? :-D

For now, I think this thread would best be served by carrying on the discusssion about what would make Renderosity the fun, exciting and stimulating place it used to be - maybe somebody somewhere will be listening?

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For now, I think this thread would best be served by carrying on the discusssion about what would make Renderosity the fun, exciting and stimulating place it used to be - maybe somebody somewhere will be listening?

I know I've tried to convey my everlasting dissatisfaction with the site redesign(s), but it seems to fall on deaf ears. Since I am by no means the only person who's voiced their issues I can only assume Renderosity no longer cares what my (or my fellow dissatisfied site members) opinions are ;). If I have to stalk you around the internet to pick your brain, use your wonderful freebies or otherwise enjoy your sense of humor, I can do that too. LOLOL :P

As far as it being a kinder, gentler place I'm afraid that's up to the members. I for one am no longer interested in waging war over silly programs and their differences, but obviously others still are. Until people get over that I suppose the current attitudes will continue, which is a real shame.

Laurie

Snarly, we really need people like you here, YOU MAKE A DIFFERENCE and all of us in the chat room will really miss you...Jan

Agree with all of the above 110%.

All of the wrong people are leaving.

I really hope you'll stick around, Snarly.  I'll mail you regarding keeping in touch, should you decide to leave.

Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.

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I am normally take most things in my stride and I am usually try to be positive but am really struggling here as I think we have probably lost too many good people to turn this forum around.

I saddens me to say that as I have learnt so much from this forum but you really can't have a fun, exciting and stimulating place when there appears to be a constant stream of ill conceived site upgrades for no apparent reason at all.  What small improvements that have been made are lost in a mire of problems and bad design.

I also find it hard to accept that there can be such a massive difference depending on what browser you use.  I accept that a lot of people would not touch IE under any circumstances but, despite that, it is still used by many, and parts of the site are very difficult to use with IE.

When people leave because they are upset by certain posts there is a limited amount that site admin can do to stop that, you cannot please everyone.  When people stop using a forum because they find it too frustrating to use something can be done providing there is the will to do so.  Rightly or wrongly that will has, in my view, been lacking for quite a while now. 

 

 

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

I also find it hard to accept that there can be such a massive difference depending on what browser you use.  I accept that a lot of people would not touch IE under any circumstances but, despite that, it is still used by many, and parts of the site are very difficult to use with IE. 

There is good reason people will not touch IE, and with windows 10, Microsoft have ditched the brand as they move to a new browser (http://www.ubergizmo.com/2015/01/project-spartan-is-the-new-windows-10-browser/) the problem is that there can be a massive difference depending on your browser. Some pages won't display correctly in some browsers, some won't display at all. The culprit? bad page design, incomplete / non-existant cross browser processing, etc. So that begs the question, since IE11 will not be supported any longer, What "new and exciting changes will become part of the forum that has become the bane of so many people?"

People became disillusioned with the Renderosity forum design (and by extension, with renderosity) And as they (rightly) felt, that their concerns were not being addressed, and were even being completely ignored, people began to drift away.

Then, add to that, the constant hijacking of poser threads by DAZ fans with the "genesis is your solution to everything." mentality, people were getting upset that they could no longer engage in a meaningful discussion and began to drift away.

 
I myself, do not often participate in the forum because, for the most part, I don't deal well with stupidity, and sadly, I find the obnoxious, bullyboy tactics employed by a select few to be immature, ignorant and stupid.

Say what you will, there can be no doubt that the forum has suffered greatly because the design team (or their bosses) seem to think that it does not matter if they treat their customers concerns as irrelevant,

 

Locked Out

I guess it is not very surprising that many of the people that have left or are leaving complained about the site and nothing was done about it.

Sort of goes against letting people know so they will fix it. A lot of people complained about it, and little was done to correct it.

With thread after thread of people complaining about it, the powers that be must already know about it.

This used to be a great forum... Now it has turned into what someone else thinks you should have and think....

Forums are for the users, and someone has forgotten that..

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Some things are easy to explain, other things are not........ <- Store ->   <-Freebies->

I am quite curious what people think are the issues with the forums. I am not noticing much difference and I have been coming here daily for quite a few years.

Over the years, I'm yet to see a forum change that people actually liked.... then they eventually get used to it and few years later a new one comes along, then that is the one everyone hates.
Its having to change and get used to new stuff that most people hate, especially when it is imposed on them.

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Hi, my name is "No, Bad Kitteh, NOO", what's yours? 

I've hated every site redesign since they had the blue-gray one years and years ago ;). Was the easiest one on my eyeballs.

Let's face it - this forum has a lot more problems than the site design. I think it's everything together that is making it unbearable for some people, present company included. I don't come here much anymore, most of it due to real life, but a lot of it also due to just don't wanna see it anymore. I go days and sometimes weeks without even looking in the forum when I used to come here every day. You may take all that with a grain of salt - my half-life for most forums is between 5-7 years, then I leave for 3-5 years - and I'm overdue ;).

Laurie

Yeah. I was thinking that might be much of the issue.

And hi Laurie :)

Hi Big-i buddy...lol :)

Laurie

I am quite curious what people think are the issues with the forums. I am not noticing much difference and I have been coming here daily for quite a few years.

As I have already stated some of the difference is, at lease, down to the browser you use.  Very often I used to give vendor credits when I uploaded to the gallery but it stopped working and, if you are user IE it still does not work today.  It was only when I mentioned it on the forum that Bagginsbill replied it was fine for him and he was using Goggle Chrome.  Sure enough it works in Chrome so I have to remember to use that when I up  load.  Other issues were the bad use of colours so that it the forum was hard to read, not helped by the fact that there were large spaces in each of the pages.  The page numbering system has an issue with long threads.  It may be fixed now but doing a cut and paste in the forum meant you lost all your previous typing.  Avatars when from square to round, minor point but some of the avatars did not work well.  Other changes like you had to remember to tick if you want to be notified if someone replies.  Response are easily lost in the quotes if you are not careful and the wording in signatures appeared to be part of every response.   There was difficulty posting images in responses as well.

Now remember all this just happened over a few weekends without any warning as far as I can see.  RDNA upgraded their forum but the shut it and told everyone that it was going to be shut.  It re-opened and, short of a few niggles that were quickly fixed, it works well.  You can now add a quick thank you at the click of a mouse.  Advanced response makes the distinction between quote and response very clear and it gives quick access to emoticons.  It appears to be 5 - 10 years in advance of this forum and now people are leaving, going in to lurk mode or only visiting on rare occasions. 

I am not against Daz or Genesis and I do not think that they should be banned from the Poser forum but, it has become almost impossible to have a question in the Poser forum without it finishing up with the same Gensis/Daz argument.  Now to a large degree that is not Rendo's fault and other forums have the same problem, but the end result for me was that I had little interest in well over half of the threads in the Poser forum with the result I came here less.  I suspect that may be due to the contributors I was interested in leaving and thus the anti Poser crowd became a bigger percentage of the people active in the forum. 

I am not sure of the other forums here but the Poser one appears to be a shadow of what it once was and that is the biggest change for me.

I apologise for being so negative as I normally try hard not to be but, you did ask. 

 

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

Over the years, I'm yet to see a forum change that people actually liked.... then they eventually get used to it and few years later a new one comes along, then that is the one everyone hates.
Its having to change and get used to new stuff that most people hate, especially when it is imposed on them.

I think you missed the point by a wide margin here, people are not going to get used to this change, they are already leaving/have left, nothing to get used to if you no longer frequent the forums.

Locked Out

Over the years, I'm yet to see a forum change that people actually liked.... then they eventually get used to it and few years later a new one comes along, then that is the one everyone hates.
Its having to change and get used to new stuff that most people hate, especially when it is imposed on them.

I think you missed the point by a wide margin here, people are not going to get used to this change, they are already leaving/have left, nothing to get used to if you no longer frequent the forums.

Not to mention the inability to understand that teaching Poser users how to use the material room with the new limitations is nothing more than an exercise in futility. This is not about change - it's about being shown the door because what you try to do for the community has been made impossible.

The issues on this redesign are plenty, but the "KIDSCHOOL" style, could be forgiven if you could actually search, or include attachments (have either of those things even been addressed?) or quote properly so that you could see who was being quoted, a myriad of minuscule hurdles, will eventually grow into an insurmountable object if they are not  dealt with as and when they arise, that, is exactly what happened here.

Locked Out

Thanks, I am really not seeing much of a change so maybe I am cached or something. Thanks for the responses.

ok I think I deleted everything, I will ask them to give me cancel the account, goodbye and good luck...

I'm still baffled as to why people would go to the trouble of cancelling their account instead of just turning off e mail notifications and not reading the Forum, as you lose access to your purchases, but to each his own... :/

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I'm still baffled as to why people would go to the trouble of cancelling their account instead of just turning off e mail notifications and not reading the Forum, as you lose access to your purchases, but to each his own... :/

Maybe if they are disgruntled they are trying to make a point.  If that is the reason, and it is only supposition on my part, I don't think it will have much effect on the powers that be. It is however sad to see do many go.  Like you I would just shut down the notifications and stop coming here and that despite the fact I have multiple backups of my purchases.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

That's pretty much what I've done over at DAZ. Except I do post occasionally if I need to ask something and I do buy something if I really like it. Otherwise I rarely go there except to redownload a file.

What worries me most is "who" is going.

Geep, BB, Snarly?

Man, those are the hearts and souls of POSER.

That are  ome of the most motivated and most capable and most helpfull guys around.

Comapred to those? I feel very-very-very small.

Realy, it hurst so see them go.

Les Bentley has been gone for many months, too.  I sent him a site mail a couple of months ago and it was never read; I hope nothing happened to him... :( les  ... i miss the old goblin 

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Hello folks ... I feel your frustration ... and experience myself.  I am communicating with the powers that be and hopefully we can resolve this.  This is not going on deaf ears, I assure you all.

Boni

Boni

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Hello all,

First, just to say that I am also missing LesBentley comments and suggestions.

About the Renderosity site changes, it is like other changes in softwares, adaptation is the rule even it the changes apparently make things worse that before. For example, I hate many changes that Microsoft have done in the their operating system over the year, but nothing to do. Adaptation should be a smooth intelligent process where you try to limit the bad effect of changes on persons that are not related to the problem. So, don't leave the site, just be less active and guide persons toward your preferred site. On a long term basis, this will have an unexpected effect. Remember, freestuff, forums, gallery, etc, are a way to do business (Check all the banner when you move around the Rendersosity site). Now, I will look at other sites but without leaving this one. There are still good things here.

Allstereo 

      

That's pretty much what I've done over at DAZ. Except I do post occasionally if I need to ask something and I do buy something if I really like it. Otherwise I rarely go there except to redownload a file.

I did the same at Daz, my account is live, well I think it is I have not logged in for three years.  As to Renderosity they appear to be going through a hard patch, not entirely of their own making.  The changes to the site and the forum were not well received and now there are a lot of people who have already left or are leaving and others are not contributing as much.  The end result is that the Poser forum has certainly become less interesting.   There are other problems that still exist some to do with browsers and other problems crop up from time to time, such as here were I have had to move to Goggle Chrome to get the quote button to work as it has suddenly stopped working in IE.

Add to the mix the fact that there was breach in the order process for around five weeks when a number of users had their credit card details stolen and it has not been a good time here for some users recently, me included.  In fairness to Renderosity they did find the breach and came clean about it so credit to them for that but it really could not have happened at a worse time for Rendo.

I still come here on a regular basis as my post prove but i am finding less and less reason to do so as time goes on.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

Even if I weren't staff, if I ever decided to leave I wouldn't delete my account for precisely the reason WandW gave, so I could retain access to my purchase history. I rarely go to RDNA but a couple times I have needed to redownload one of my purchases from there, and I have a good deal more purchased from here than there.

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Even if I weren't staff, if I ever decided to leave I wouldn't delete my account for precisely the reason WandW gave, so I could retain access to my purchase history. I rarely go to RDNA but a couple times I have needed to redownload one of my purchases from there, and I have a good deal more purchased from here than there.

Honestly, I don't see the point in deleting your account. Just stop posting and reading if you don't like what's being said. You gonna quit all the forums? Because the same people that post here, probably post somewhere else, too.

A point is if you make a lot of cool stuff for people and they try to talk to you using your Rendo account PMs, but you're not even looking anymore, then they're going to think you're an asshole for not answering.

So if you don't want people to think they can contact you with an account, you need to delete the account.

I'm not saying that's why Snarly is doing it. I'm saying that a valid point came to mind - wasn't that far fetched to come up with one.

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A point is if you make a lot of cool stuff for people and they try to talk to you using your Rendo account PMs, but you're not even looking anymore, then they're going to think you're an asshole for not answering.

So if you don't want people to think they can contact you with an account, you need to delete the account.

I'm not saying that's why Snarly is doing it. I'm saying that a valid point came to mind - wasn't that far fetched to come up with one.

I suppose that's a good point, BB. I never really think about my sitemail much anymore. There used to be some notification to let you know when you had sitemail. I almost never see that notification anymore, so I only rarely even think of checking my sitemail.

A point is if you make a lot of cool stuff for people and they try to talk to you using your Rendo account PMs, but you're not even looking anymore, then they're going to think you're an asshole for not answering.

So if you don't want people to think they can contact you with an account, you need to delete the account.

I'm not saying that's why Snarly is doing it. I'm saying that a valid point came to mind - wasn't that far fetched to come up with one.

Very valid point and one I had not thought of, but then I have never produced any cool stuff so my brain would not been in that mode.   I can however, see that someone in your position, or Snarly's , would see that as a good reason.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

Can you block certain people from sending you sitemail? I mean, seems like if you put them on ignore, they shouldn't be able to circumvent that by sending you sitemail.

I am glad this has come up. With ctrl-scrollwheel you can zoom into and out of webpages and if you do that on a forum it goes weird and it really hard to read. For ages I thought this is what happened to Rendo and I kept zooming in and out and obviously could never find the point where it looked right.