As long as we're all talking about it anyway, why not list the problems you've found with the Forum or what you don't like about it. And Mods, before you consider moving the thread to the Community Forum where you probably think it should be, consider that until one of the mods mentioned it, I didn't even know there WAS a Community Forum that addressed issues like this. You can't post it there if you didn't know it was there, and I'm willing to bet most people don't.

Why not make this thread a sticky, and start a similar sticky in other forums so people will see it and let you know their concerns. Moving it to the Community Forum is just hiding it where no one knows where it is.

Bwahahahahahahaha, eclark. This one is going to get moved, too.

And, I'm just going to beat Admin with thier standard response to every issue posted about the forums all these months. "I have noted your concern and I will send it over to our programmer."

End of conversation. That's all you/me/everybody else is ever going to get.

You're becoming a cynic, Traci. But if it happens, oh well, at least I tried to help.

Fire whomever is in currently charge of the website design, and hire a professional. The current designer is obviously NOT up to the task, nor do they seem to have any professional experience whatsoever. If this was some Joe Blow miscellaneous Poser fansite, this design would be acceptable. However, this is a professional, commercial website that generates plenty of money to afford a better web designer.

After following step 1, steps 2-99 will almost certainly be taken care of by said professional.

You're becoming a cynic, Traci. But if it happens, oh well, at least I tried to help.

You're right, I am. Some of us have tried for months to address the issues. We have been ignored and/or invited to leave. Some are taking them up on the invitation to leave.

I am not on here as much as I'd like to be. I am without internet access for long stretches of time. But it seems to me that every time I log in, something has changed. I would like to see the forum look like it did in 2010, when I could make sense of it.

I'd like to see the 'jump to forum' option brought back so that I can get to the other forums I check on without jumping through hoops to do it.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

@rokket: forum jump is still there.

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@rokket: forum jump is still there.

Sounds like the forum options need to be labeled clearer then. We're not psychics.

As long as we're all talking about it anyway, why not list the problems you've found with the Forum or what you don't like about it. And Mods, before you consider moving the thread to the Community Forum where you probably think it should be, consider that until one of the mods mentioned it, I didn't even know there WAS a Community Forum that addressed issues like this. You can't post it there if you didn't know it was there, and I'm willing to bet most people don't.

Why not make this thread a sticky, and start a similar sticky in other forums so people will see it and let you know their concerns. Moving it to the Community Forum is just hiding it where no one knows where it is.

You are right about the Community Forum, I had never been there and it was only following one the moved threads that I found out the issue with Credit Card information that was mentioned in that forum. As to moving the post, well I can sort of understand why but the issue was mainly people who were regular contributors to the Poser Forum that were leaving. From that point of view there is an argument for leaving it in the Poser forum.

I have already listed many of the problems that impact my use of the forum so I won't go over the same ground, but my own view is it may be too late anyway. Those that have left are unlikely to return, although I guess those who have moved to lurk mode might. What seems to have been forgotten here is that a lot of the people who use the forum are fairly switched on people and they can tell the difference between a well though out, profession web site and one that is not. The first attempts here with poor choice of colours and spaces littered everywhere did not imply that the designer was up to the task, which I suspect, is another reason why there is such a negative feeling about anything improving. You can build a list of problems but words like silk, purses, sows and ears spring to mind.

If in some universe a much improved and usable forum does emerge you still then have the problem of how it is used. While a few people are happy to continue to discuss the Poser/Daz and V4/Genesis at infinitum I suspect the majority of forum readers are bored stiff with the same old arguments that have been going for four years now. I am not against the discussion of Genesis or anything that is new or will benefit those that use the concept but there were times here when there were half a dozen threads here were just clones of the same old argument and no threads that were of interest to me, end result I stopped coming because even lurk mode was a waste of time.

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 - Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU . The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

Hello folks. I've been reading these posts ... and threads and I've relayed information shared in chat as well. Moderators and Coordinators alike are working on the situation. Having been a part of this community for over 15 years now one thing I can tell you ... it's always fluid. bb has not left ... and those who have most likely will return once things are ironed out better. We are working on programs and projects that hopefully will gain some excitement here. (one VERY soon in fact). As long as this thread is here ... please feel free to use it and we will read it and relay to the administrators.

Sincerely

Boni

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Fire the current webmaster, He has no CLUE what he's doing.
Restore the forum to december 2012 layout.
Done.

Who needs 17 links to a marketplace? On the front page?

Test:
open This page on a 1920x1080 monitor, that is the current default for a monitor, right? (1600x900 for most laptops.)
What do you see?

The top 25% is UNUSED BLANK white grey.
The bottom 75% is UNUSED dark grey-brown.

Now what percentage is actually used?

And when it is used? It is used vertically.

So, that is why I am typing vertically too.

HEY!!!! How many lines and images say; *Welcome to the Poser Forum.

HEy? I know that , I clicked to get here remember?

Ergonomics? What is that??? Ever heard of it?

Fire the webmaster
Restore december 2012 layout, or better yet, the december 2010 layout.

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Copy paste, broken; active links broken, posts dissapearing, search not working,

I write posts, they "dissapear".

No problems, please do not respond. Other forums are recieving us with open arms.

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S L O W.

The forum has become the sowest to respond, the slowest to refresh, the hardest to load.

It takes sometimes minutes to react.

No clue what garbage is running in the background but => PULL THE PLUG.

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Boni, something simple to fix. I want my emoticons back.

I would like the years of Bagginsbill's materials file attachments fixed so that:

We can search for them
We can get new materials instructions and in a format that is HELPFUL

Years of help from BB and Snarlygribbly have been destroyed. Show some respect for the folks like BB and Snarly who have spent years helping your customers.

Boni, something simple to fix. I want my emoticons back.

to be honest, emoticons should be low on the list, I would rather have usability over the ability to pull my tongue out at someone. While, for me at least; search does seem to have improved somewhat (not perfect but hey what is?) I agree with Glitter that the attachments should be renamed back to something legible instead of something nondescript like 496845843985_3223.jpg.

As far as the webmaster, I assume this is his/her first website so lets cut him/her some slack, I am sure 'rosity can afford to spend a few pennies to educate them in building a usable website.

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On a related note, how about starting with fixing the ebots? It is more than a little redundant getting involved in any kind of discussion when you don't even get notified that somebody replied.

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On a related note, how about starting with fixing the ebots? It is more than a little redundant getting involved in any kind of discussion when you don't even get notified that somebody replied.

Actually, I just thought it was turned off, which frankly, I love. In addition to rendo, I also post at RDNA, Hivewire and sometimes even at DAZ. I don't need or want a lot of ebot responses cluttering up my mail box.

Here's something curious. I'm at work and using IE on Windows 7 Enterprise, and the little squares are all there, but the icons for each are missing. Fortunately, I can mouse over each square to find out it's function. Is this happening to anyone else or is this something that's just on my work computers?

Here's something curious. I'm at work and using IE on Windows 7 Enterprise, and the little squares are all there, but the icons for each are missing. Fortunately, I can mouse over each square to find out it's function. Is this happening to anyone else or is this something that's just on my work computers?

If there is something blocking javascript (I don't ever use IE, so not sure) then the icons may not show up.

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Ebots? Are ramdom now.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
Half the time I do not get them.

Glitterati3D also has a good point.
Years of work by BB and Snarly and Les, have been washed down the drain.
Instead of making a bundle, and put all the info in the tutorial s ection somewhere. No, gone.
You need a "master degree" to find parts and pieces back.

Did I note it is S L O W ???

Hell, sometimes I can not even find my own stuff back. So? Mostly I stopped posting. (like many others)

This site was very-very active, right up till about december 2010.
From then on it went backwards and downwards.

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I just noticed something else rather curious, oddly enough, in the Communtiy Center Forum. Let's just say that one of the threads had gotten a little "heated", which was rather surreal considering a couple of the participants had at least one other, on ignore, but they were still arguing with him. Anyway, the Store Staff announced that the thread had become unproductive and they were locking the thread.

Question: how do you know when the thread is locked? I remember that there used to be little lock symbols beside the threads if it was locked, and even a quick explanation that the thread was locked. I don't know if its because I'm on IE, or at work, or what, but I saw nothing that let me know the thread was, in fact, locked.

I just noticed something else rather curious, oddly enough, in the Communtiy Center Forum. Let's just say that one of the threads had gotten a little "heated", which was rather surreal considering a couple of the participants had at least one other, on ignore, but they were still arguing with him. Anyway, the Store Staff announced that the thread had become unproductive and they were locking the thread.

Question: how do you know when the thread is locked? I remember that there used to be little lock symbols beside the threads if it was locked, and even a quick explanation that the thread was locked. I don't know if its because I'm on IE, or at work, or what, but I saw nothing that let me know the thread was, in fact, locked.

there is no comment box.

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I would like the years of Bagginsbill's materials file attachments fixed so that:

We can search for them

We can get new materials instructions and in a format that is HELPFUL

Years of help from BB and Snarlygribbly have been destroyed. Show some respect for the folks like BB and Snarly who have spent years helping your customers.

I agree 100%. I have learnt so much here in the forum both from BB and Snarly and all the others that have either helped me directly, or indirectly in the sense that they were helping someone else and I found their response to be valuable. It is almost criminal that all that information should be lost to Poser users. What is more, if the same helpful people start visiting another forum my guess is the slow trickle away from here will become a stampede.

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 - Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU . The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

I posted an image in a forum thread, the image file was less than 400kB when I uploaded it. As it appears on the forum it is over a megabyte. This happened to 2 different images. Is it being re-saved at a lower compression of something? If so, what's the point, it's a jpg, making a bigger file out of it won't improve it.

I just noticed something else rather curious, oddly enough, in the Communtiy Center Forum. Let's just say that one of the threads had gotten a little "heated", which was rather surreal considering a couple of the participants had at least one other, on ignore, but they were still arguing with him. Anyway, the Store Staff announced that the thread had become unproductive and they were locking the thread.

Question: how do you know when the thread is locked? I remember that there used to be little lock symbols beside the threads if it was locked, and even a quick explanation that the thread was locked. I don't know if its because I'm on IE, or at work, or what, but I saw nothing that let me know the thread was, in fact, locked.

Actually I do see a locked symbol against that thread but as I have said, the site works very differently in different browsers. I like the idea that a thread can be locked because it was unproductive all we need to do now is to lock the ones where it is both unproductive and has all been said before. There will need to be a exclusion though for certain threads like I cannot install V4/M4, of the morphs don't work, along with all the other ones we see almost every month. In that case it has been said before but it is new to the OP, not something that can be applied to something that happened four years ago and cannot be changed.

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 - Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU . The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

And, I'm just going to beat Admin with thier standard response to every issue posted about the forums all these months. "I have noted your concern and I will send it over to our programmer."

End of conversation. That's all you/me/everybody else is ever going to get.

The pattern here seems to be: When the problems first appear people complain about them. A lot.

Management responds with "Be patient everyone, it's a work in progress, all these issues will be addressed. You'll see, it'll be nice when it's finished".

So we bite our tongues and wait... And wait.... And wait... And wait.

And then after a while management says "Everyone loves the new changes, there have been no complaints for ages. Job done."

Well, as forum traffic certainly will show; Some of us are beyond waiting.

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When I'm typing in any other text editor or text-input window, when my cursor gets to the bottom line of the window, the text automatically scrolls up a line at a time to keep my cursor in view so I can, you know, SEE what I'm typing. This forum software allows my input to disappear below the bottom edge of the window, requiring me to scroll manually to keep my current typing line in view. Seriously??

The Forum Preferences allow me to choose how many Threads per Page and how many Messages per Thread will display, but apparently the only 'choice' which works is the default values of 30 and 30. Any other values breaks the page numbering on the forum front page (threads show as having 5 pages when they actually have 15, and so on). I fought with this page number issue since the 'upgrade' broke it, and it was only by deleting both values and saving the change that I figured out what the defaults were.

If the software can't handle other values, they shouldn't be offered as choices.

I want to thank everyone for adding useful information here and keeping the thread civil. That will help make it the most productive. This is all valuable in-put.

Boni

"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork

I miss being able to attach poser files as .txt to posts, e.g. .obj.txt, .pp2.txt, etc. I perhaps understand why this was eliminated but still...

Bb was right about the search, It works better through the advanced option, older than 1 days.

You know, Boni, it does bother me just a bit that you, or any of the mods, for that matter, has to actually tell the programmer what the problems are. Shouldn't they already know?

You know, Boni, it does bother me just a bit that you, or any of the mods, for that matter, has to actually tell the programmer what the problems are. Shouldn't they already know?

They DO know, eclark. That's the problem. They would have to CARE for it to be different.

Just one example........Bagginsbill posted his first error report on these issues October 29, 2014.

They KNOW.

You know, Boni, it does bother me just a bit that you, or any of the mods, for that matter, has to actually tell the programmer what the problems are. Shouldn't they already know?

In this case, as Glitter pointed out, they most likely already know after this long of a time with numerous threads on the subject. In any other instance, for clarification, not all bugs/issues are known immediately and don't crop up until someone does something specific that causes something to break. Hence bug reports. Sites can also go through a testing process, similar to alpha/beta testing for an app, but for a site that has unnecessarily used 2 different layouts depending on what page you're on, I'm not holding my breath on any sort of QA.

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I would like the years of Bagginsbill's materials file attachments fixed so that:

We can search for them

We can get new materials instructions and in a format that is HELPFUL

Years of help from BB and Snarlygribbly have been destroyed. Show some respect for the folks like BB and Snarly who have spent years helping your customers.

I agree. I spent the last week 2 hours to find a post from BB. Guess what. Nothing. All the precious tutorials, Matfiles, etc..gone.

I could pull out my hair that I don't save every single post from BB and Snarly. Well most I save.But a lot is still missing.

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Just a note, for everybody using firefox and a 1900 screen, just use ctrl + , so you can zoom the site to fit your screen.

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Question: how do you know when the thread is locked? I remember that there used to be little lock symbols beside the threads if it was locked, and even a quick explanation that the thread was locked. I don't know if its because I'm on IE, or at work, or what, but I saw nothing that let me know the thread was, in fact, locked.

In the thread list, there is still a padlock on locked threads (or at least there is when I look - Firefox 36.0.4 Windows 7 etc.) That could be down to IE I suppose - I don't use it myself

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Question: how do you know when the thread is locked? I remember that there used to be little lock symbols beside the threads if it was locked, and even a quick explanation that the thread was locked. I don't know if its because I'm on IE, or at work, or what, but I saw nothing that let me know the thread was, in fact, locked.

In the thread list, there is still a padlock on locked threads (or at least there is when I look - Firefox 36.0.4 Windows 7 etc.) That could be down to IE I suppose - I don't use it myself

Frank, none of the icons show in my version of Firefox - same version as yours. I'm quite certain it's from browser addon products I use, but I most certainly do not intend to change my browser settings just for RO. Especially, given the recent Man In The Middle attack they have experienced.

I care much more about browser security than itty bitty icons on a website.

Some things I cannot answer directly. But as vague as it sounds and I apologize for that, I DO hear your frustration and as I said it is something I share. I truly believe that letting these things be known on this public forum is a good thing. Sometimes people with good intentions can't honestly see the forest for the trees and they need to be pointed out. I could be naive, most likely, but I will give those in the know the benefit of a doubt on some things. And perhaps, as I haven't built a decent web-page since Claris Home Page and Netscape ... things are more complicated than we are aware of. Please no attacks. I'm just adding my view and attempting to be a diplomat in the process.

Boni

"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork

Some things I cannot answer directly. But as vague as it sounds and I apologize for that, I DO hear your frustration and as I said it is something I share. I truly believe that letting these things be known on this public forum is a good thing. Sometimes people with good intentions can't honestly see the forest for the trees and they need to be pointed out. I could be naive, most likely, but I will give those in the know the benefit of a doubt on some things. And perhaps, as I haven't built a decent web-page since Claris Home Page and Netscape ... things are more complicated than we are aware of. Please no attacks. I'm just adding my view and attempting to be a diplomat in the process.

If something I said sounded like an attack, it certainly wasn't meant that way. It's was simply meant as an explanation that even the same browser can behave differently on different setups.

And, as I said, for me browser security is my highest priority. If that comes at the cost of easier site navigation, that's a decision I've made.

please add "ignore thread" button so we can block OT threads.

Some things I cannot answer directly. But as vague as it sounds and I apologize for that, I DO hear your frustration and as I said it is something I share. I truly believe that letting these things be known on this public forum is a good thing. Sometimes people with good intentions can't honestly see the forest for the trees and they need to be pointed out. I could be naive, most likely, but I will give those in the know the benefit of a doubt on some things. And perhaps, as I haven't built a decent web-page since Claris Home Page and Netscape ... things are more complicated than we are aware of. Please no attacks. I'm just adding my view and attempting to be a diplomat in the process.

Wow, Claris Home Page and Netscape, huh? That's going back a few years.

Question: how do you know when the thread is locked? I remember that there used to be little lock symbols beside the threads if it was locked, and even a quick explanation that the thread was locked. I don't know if its because I'm on IE, or at work, or what, but I saw nothing that let me know the thread was, in fact, locked.

In the thread list, there is still a padlock on locked threads (or at least there is when I look - Firefox 36.0.4 Windows 7 etc.) That could be down to IE I suppose - I don't use it myself

Frank, none of the icons show in my version of Firefox - same version as yours. I'm quite certain it's from browser addon products I use, but I most certainly do not intend to change my browser settings just for RO. Especially, given the recent Man In The Middle attack they have experienced.

I care much more about browser security than itty bitty icons on a website.

I have Adblock and Noscript and that's it - could well be a firefox add-in though, there's a lot of them :)

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You weren't attacking by any means ... just a little pro-active as this is an emotional issue for some folks. :) And yes ... having worked at Fry's I may be a head shy. ;) but I also had the chance to test a lot of software to understand what I was selling. I taught myself most of what I know.

Boni

"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork

I just started a new thread - hoping to be useful. The first post has a mistake in it - a link came in white on white. I did not ask for this. It was probably the result of an image insert I had just done and then canceled. (I clicked the wrong button, inserting an image instead of a link)

And it turns out that the forum doesn't let you edit a first post. Only replies can be edited.

So - three problems:

BRING BACK THE PREVIEW FOR F***'s SAKE. If you're going to insert random garbage in my posts, at least let me check on it before I push the button.
We used to be able to just add a clickable link by pasting - now I have to use a dialog which leads to errors and wasted time.
I should be able to edit the thread's first post like any other post. I should be able to correct a mistake that you refuse to show me until I already commit to it.

I feel stupid for having tried to just do what I want to do and talk about Poser.

I have now wasted another 20 minutes dealing with the forum software.

Back to lurk mode for me. Damn it.

Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)

People are talking to me in my thread. I just posted two replies. Both have disappeared.

Will they come later? Or will they stay gone?

Who the fuck knows. I'm gone again.

Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)

And my last post here didn't show up either. Fun fucking times, people. Fun fucking times.

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Question: how do you know when the thread is locked? I remember that there used to be little lock symbols beside the threads if it was locked, and even a quick explanation that the thread was locked. I don't know if its because I'm on IE, or at work, or what, but I saw nothing that let me know the thread was, in fact, locked.

In the thread list, there is still a padlock on locked threads (or at least there is when I look - Firefox 36.0.4 Windows 7 etc.) That could be down to IE I suppose - I don't use it myself

Frank, none of the icons show in my version of Firefox - same version as yours. I'm quite certain it's from browser addon products I use, but I most certainly do not intend to change my browser settings just for RO. Especially, given the recent Man In The Middle attack they have experienced.

I care much more about browser security than itty bitty icons on a website.

I have Adblock and Noscript and that's it - could well be a firefox add-in though, there's a lot of them :)

It's the NoFlash addon causing the issues with the icons. Probably the same for IE - Flash addon not enabled. Again, for me, turning it on means compromising my browser security and I have no intention of doing so. But, that's my choice.

I've been visiting a lot of message boards and forums, starting somewhere around 1999... Yet, I haven't encountered any forum software yet that was so limited, buggy, and/or messed up like this one. --- --- Why not have a look at what other, professional, web sites use as their forum software, and then choose the one most successful? --- --- This current software is obviously utter crap, or utterly bad handled; I suppose the first. --- --- So instead of trudging along miserably, and alienating even more users, why not make a clean cut: dump the current software, and introduce something really useful, which will make the users happy again? --- --- I won't propagate any particular forum software here, because it could be mistaken as "advertising". But we all do know which forums are liked because of the software they use... Why trying to make a difference just because of a different appearance (a.k.a. "Corporate Identity" - even if this implies "'R'osity = Unuseable forum!") --- --- My voice (as a newb) surely doesn't play any role compared to the posts of BB, Snarly, etc. - but heck - if even THEY are frustrated, with all of their expierience, then I'd come to the conclusion that something is really really wrong here. ------ So, as a newb, I would consider to move on to a different forum. --- --- --- --- (Pardon the --- --- , but it's my only way left to structure my posts, since this forum won't accept neither paragraphs nor blank lines (FireFox on an XP64Pro machine)

I'm just curious, Shane. How is it forum users are supposed to know these things? Is there some user manual somewhere that we're supposed to be using to post on this software? Because, quite frankly, I've never seen anything like it.....you're copying the background color from a text editor into a forum post? Whaaaaaaaaa? That's as convoluted as anything I have ever seen in my life. You should also probably keep in mind that half of us don't even have any real icons to use, just the missing icon symbol across the top row of any forum post....whether through preference or browser compatibility. One thing is certain.....guessing isn't working.

@Glitterati - Honestly, all I did was just spend some time experimenting with all of it to see how it works. When I see someone mentions this or that isn't working I go and do a test on my own to see if it's really not working or if it's just working differently than it used to. I just figured these things out on my own by experimenting and looking at the various menus when something particular comes up. There's no manual that I'm aware of. There are a lot of features people are saying are broken when they're really not, they just function differently than before. Granted, some things are no longer possible to do and some other things are not functioning the way they're supposed to, but I have not had any actual problems or bugs pop up for me that I can recall recently. I do use Chrome tho, and it seems that a lot of the people experiencing issues are using IE, so I can't comment on the IE experience. Now if you're using some script or plug-in or whatever to block certain browser functionality like flash then that's not the fault of the forum software when those features that require flash don't work as intended. (not trying to be an ass here, but that's kind of like intentionally unplugging a toaster and then complaining that the toaster isn't working). It also helps to state what browser you're using when you do find an issue, or include what browser you're using in your signature, the way many include what version of Poser and OS they're using, so that you don't have to keep restating it.

With all that said, I don't know why it copies the background color from a text editor, except that in a text editor there is a ton of code behind the scenes telling that editor what font to display, size, color, etc. Such as when using something like MSWord. If you're copying text from a plain text editor like notepad then there is no 'hidden' formatting, so all you're going to get is the text you copy and in the default forum font color when you paste it.

I'm not saying there aren't issues with the way the forum is working, I'm just saying a lot of features work differently, some old features have not been implemented - for reasons I can't answer since I have no idea what criteria was used in making these decisions or if any of those features will ever be seen again - and I'm just trying to clarify when certain things are stated as being broken when really they are not, they just work differently. An example would be the archive search feature. I've had no problems searching anyone's posts, going back to 2000 or so. As far as I can tell every post that's ever been made here is still accessible. I posted a tutorial with images in another thread a few weeks back when several were claiming the search feature is broken and none of the old threads could be found. I'll have to dig it back up to remember which thread I posted that in.

I'm just curious, Shane. How is it forum users are supposed to know these things? Is there some user manual somewhere that we're supposed to be using to post on this software? Because, quite frankly, I've never seen anything like it.....you're copying the background color from a text editor into a forum post? Whaaaaaaaaa? That's as convoluted as anything I have ever seen in my life. You should also probably keep in mind that half of us don't even have any real icons to use, just the missing icon symbol across the top row of any forum post....whether through preference or browser compatibility. One thing is certain.....guessing isn't working.

@Glitterati - Honestly, all I did was just spend some time experimenting with all of it to see how it works. When I see someone mentions this or that isn't working I go and do a test on my own to see if it's really not working or if it's just working differently than it used to. I just figured these things out on my own by experimenting and looking at the various menus when something particular comes up. There's no manual that I'm aware of. There are a lot of features people are saying are broken when they're really not, they just function differently than before. Granted, some things are no longer possible to do and some other things are not functioning the way they're supposed to, but I have not had any actual problems or bugs pop up for me that I can recall recently. I do use Chrome tho, and it seems that a lot of the people experiencing issues are using IE, so I can't comment on the IE experience. Now if you're using some script or plug-in or whatever to block certain browser functionality like flash then that's not the fault of the forum software when those features that require flash don't work as intended. (not trying to be an ass here, but that's kind of like intentionally unplugging a toaster and then complaining that the toaster isn't working). It also helps to state what browser you're using when you do find an issue, or include what browser you're using in your signature, the way many include what version of Poser and OS they're using, so that you don't have to keep restating it.

With all that said, I don't know why it copies the background color from a text editor, except that in a text editor there is a ton of code behind the scenes telling that editor what font to display, size, color, etc. Such as when using something like MSWord. If you're copying text from a plain text editor like notepad then there is no 'hidden' formatting, so all you're going to get is the text you copy and in the default forum font color when you paste it.

I'm not saying there aren't issues with the way the forum is working, I'm just saying a lot of features work differently, some old features have not been implemented - for reasons I can't answer since I have no idea what criteria was used in making these decisions or if any of those features will ever be seen again - and I'm just trying to clarify when certain things are stated as being broken when really they are not, they just work differently. An example would be the archive search feature. I've had no problems searching anyone's posts, going back to 2000 or so. As far as I can tell every post that's ever been made here is still accessible. I posted a tutorial with images in another thread a few weeks back when several were claiming the search feature is broken and none of the old threads could be found. I'll have to dig it back up to remember which thread I posted that in.

As I have said several times, I am not, nor have I ever blamed the software for personal choice I make like using the NoFlash plugin. However, flash based icons are really overkill in the first place. Really? Icons, flash based? What's next? Bringing back text marquees? Beside the point, however, that I have never "blamed" the software for this once I found out the culprit was my own choice to use the NoFlash plugin.

The background copying does, in fact, do the same thing when using a pure text based editor. I have had it happen to me just like it did for Bagginsbill in his post, and I use a pure ASCII editor.

Now, I'm glad the forum software is working for you. But, as you can see, for a great many of us it's not. I just wish all these many months we hadn't been dismissed as cranks, whiners and idiots. And that's exactly how it has come across.

Browser compatibility shouldn't be something your USERS are testing. That should have been done before the software was implemented. And, after all this time, one would think this simple function of ANY website, browser compatibility should have been fleshed out all these months later.

I visit and participate in 7 forums daily (not just 3D forums), some custom programming, some canned software and I have never had an experience so unpleasant, so unnecessarily difficult, and so convoluted as this one.

And, to be honest, most of us just don't have time to "play" with this software to learn it. We shouldn't have to take that time out of busy schedules just to try and help a Renderosity customer by answering their questions.

Here's a new report of a problem I'm seeing.....

Every day between 3-5PM US Eastern Time, the entire website slows to a crawl. This is the same time that Bagginsbills forum posts started "disappearing" as the website simply stopped functioning, which has become a daily occurrence.

Now, according to the stats at the top of the forum, this isn't even a particularly busy time of the day for visitors.

Ask the chat regulars - we see it happen every day.

Ok, well my response to your previous post was actually copied from wordpad into the text box here and it did not require me to change any of the background or font color settings. So I don't know why that would be a requirement in one browser and not the next.

Flash is still very much alive and being used in the majority of sites I visit, so I don't know what the big deal with using flash is all about. It remains superior to html5, at least for now, from a number of articles I've read on the subject. Granted I'm not a web designer and most of what I do is done in dreamweaver so I can't really answer any of the 'omg why flash!?!' questions. I also can't answer anything about why 'rosity does what they do. I have no connection to the web development team and no one from there asked for my input on the issue. All I can do is clarify for people posting here whether something is actually broken or not, from my perspective.

So far everything looks and functions the same to me in Firefox as it does in Chrome. This text was copied and pasted from wordpad.

And my last post here didn't show up either.

If you hit refresh it will show up. That happens sometimes.

And my last post here didn't show up either.

If you hit refresh it will show up. That happens sometimes.

Actually, during the daily slowdown, they don't ever show up. The browser spins and spins and spins and the page never refreshes. The same thing happens to the store during the daily slowdown.

they still have a truespace forum here at renderosity,that's just sad.
don't know why all forums want to divide every thing up like they do.
n all there open to interpretation rules buy who evers stoned that day.I'll hate cgtalk till the end.
I don't bother with any other forums at renderosity,this is the active forum or what's left of it.
the copy paste thing has been broken for so long now ,it's beyond pathetic.
somebody take the crack pipe from the webmaster.

don't guess any forum is perfect.
daz forums there to bright white.
runtime divided poser up.
deviant art forums the way replies work is the stupidest thing I've ever seen on a forum.

welcome to earth

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The sad part about all of this is that in the end, whatever we say will fall on deaf ears.

I say this because it has been a long time since the change and very little has been done to correct any of the users concerns.

If Rendo wants to continue to loose valuable people to the community, all they have to do is nothing.

It boggles me that the site is this way, but at this point I don't really care anymore.

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Some things are easy to explain, other things are not........ <- Store -> <-Freebies->

Switch to chrome or firefox and you wont have those problems. The issue is IE from what I can tell. So my best advice is to use a different browser until whatever the issues with IE are get sorted out.

Since MS is canning IE anyway how long is it going to be before support for that browser ends?

You know, Shvrdavid, you make an excellent point. I wonder if it would be possible to have one of the programmers come here and explain just WHY none of the concerns expressed before have been dealt with. With all due respect to Tina K, Shane and Boni, who have to catch all the grief, the programmer(s) are the ones who should come out here and explain their actions (or inactions).

Switch to chrome or firefox and you wont have those problems. The issue is IE from what I can tell. So my best advice is to use a different browser until whatever the issues with IE are get sorted out.

Since MS is canning IE anyway how long is it going to be before support for that browser ends?

Well, I use Firefox and the forum software still sucks, so........ But, do you really think telling your customers to switch browsers to use your website is a "solution?" Quite frankly, that's a pretty arrogant attitude and my response would be yeah, OK, bye!

Switch to chrome or firefox and you wont have those problems. The issue is IE from what I can tell. So my best advice is to use a different browser until whatever the issues with IE are get sorted out.

Since MS is canning IE anyway how long is it going to be before support for that browser ends?

Obviously you have not been listening, I use firefox, I do not, have not and will not EVER use IE,, and guess what. a lot of the problems are still here. Glitterati has already said she uses firefox, is there another FF that we are unaware of?

Locked Out

The sad part about all of this is that in the end, whatever we say will fall on deaf ears.

I say this because it has been a long time since the change and very little has been done to correct any of the users concerns.

If Rendo wants to continue to loose valuable people to the community, all they have to do is nothing.

It boggles me that the site is this way, but at this point I don't really care anymore.

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You silly! You're using the wrong browser. User error, user error, user error!

I'm not experiencing the same issues in firefox as you are then. I loaded it up last night and everything seems to be running fine, and my firefox isn't even updated to the latest version I don't think, as it kept suggesting that I refresh it as it's been so long since I'd opened it - at least a year or so.

I'll be sure to look for this slow down you all are talking about between 3 and 5 today. Is that eastern time? I'm on here every day and have not noticed a slow down, but I can't say I'm always specifically on at that time. Yesterday I was in town around that time.

I'm not experiencing the same issues in firefox as you are then. I loaded it up last night and everything seems to be running fine, and my firefox isn't even updated to the latest version I don't think, as it kept suggesting that I refresh it as it's been so long since I'd opened it - at least a year or so.

I'll be sure to look for this slow down you all are talking about between 3 and 5 today. Is that eastern time? I'm on here every day and have not noticed a slow down, but I can't say I'm always specifically on at that time. Yesterday I was in town around that time.

Repeating from my original post: Every day between 3-5PM US Eastern Time, the entire website slows to a crawl.

Hmm the new forum was essentially inaccessible to me on my Old Mac running Safari

I could only use this site with my android tablet and the "dolphin" browser

Since moving to Chrome On my new Windows 7 Computer

I have Zero Issues

I compose my forum posts in notepad

past them into the the reply box here and apply any formatting

such as my "trademark" orange quoted text

and any links that need to be clickable.

I have never even tried to visit here on IE

as I don't use that browser at all.

My website

YouTube Channel

I am on Chrome. The white text was copied from the chrome URL bar, not a format-generating text editor.

However, as I said, the sequence was probably due to accidentally using the image insert dialog instead of the link insert dialog.

Let me try it again - we'll see if it happens.

Nope - I cannot reproduce.

But as I said, the theories given about why it happened to me are wrong.

I copied from the URL bar of an open page in chrome.

I pasted using the link insertion dialog.

At no time did I PASTE THE URL MYSELF - understand?

Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)

I am on Chrome. The white text was copied from the chrome URL bar, not a format-generating text editor.

However, as I said, the sequence was probably due to accidentally using the image insert dialog instead of the link insert dialog.

Let me try it again - we'll see if it happens.

Nope - I cannot reproduce.

But as I said, the theories given about why it happened to me are wrong.

I copied from the URL bar of an open page in chrome.

I pasted using the link insertion dialog.

At no time did I PASTE THE URL MYSELF - understand?

Thanks, BB for taking the time to clarify.

OK, so MS is going to cease supporting IE and Rendo programmers are so advanced that they have already incorporated the change in their new designed. Anyone want to take bets on just how well this forum will work in the new browser MS has planned.

So the new site works with Chrome but I use IE for the very reason that I have a SSD for my C drive and it is easy to move the IE temp file to another drive. It may have changed, but when I started using an SSD it tried for many hours to do the same with Chrome and I gave up.

So I have a choice, I could start using Chrome full time for uploading images to Rendo and the joy of using their forum or I could just stick with IE, until it is really dead and just move all my interest to RDNA. Come to think of it, that process has already started.

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 - Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU . The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

On the IE issue. If you look at the source code for the page, you will see an IE flag.

Quote from MS on that....

Applications should not rely on X-UA-Compatible to be an excuse to avoid....

There is is in a nutshell folks.... I'm using Chrome and the server sent me a Internet Explorer compatibility setting........

Guess it is more than an IE issue.......

Some things are easy to explain, other things are not........ <- Store -> <-Freebies->

Well, what with the forum issues, the gallery issues and the pleasure of having my credit card hacked twice in as many weeks I was not in the best of moods. Now that all of this is my fault I have come decided that after I have used next months voucher, that I earned while having my card hacked, I am going to take a break. Rather than make a hasty decision and shut my account I have decided not to purchase anything from Rendo for the next three months and then revisit the decision then.

Shame really but I don't feel very valued as a customer at the moment.

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 - Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU . The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

Oh and I should add that I do not expect Rendo to notice any impact but the $300 - $500 I will save will at least be some recompense for the hassle I have had with my credit cards.

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 - Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU . The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

I realize many of you are frustrated and understandably so. However, as Boni said on the first page of this thread, Rendersoity is working on several things to make the forums better. Believe it or not Renderosity appreciates any bug reports they receive. If it wasn't for the bug reports they may not have found half the bugs or glitches that appear. They do want to strive to make this a website/marketplace/forum that most will enjoy.

My Store & My Freebies

I realize many of you are frustrated and understandably so. However, as Boni said on the first page of this thread, Rendersoity is working on several things to make the forums better. Believe it or not Renderosity appreciates any bug reports they receive. If it wasn't for the bug reports they may not have found half the bugs or glitches that appear. They do want to strive to make this a website/marketplace/forum that most will enjoy.

Sorry to be negative but I will have a look in three months because precious little has happened in the last six other than fewer posts and people leaving.

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 - Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU . The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

I realize many of you are frustrated and understandably so. However, as Boni said on the first page of this thread, Rendersoity is working on several things to make the forums better. Believe it or not Renderosity appreciates any bug reports they receive. If it wasn't for the bug reports they may not have found half the bugs or glitches that appear. They do want to strive to make this a website/marketplace/forum that most will enjoy.

The maximum effective firing range of an excuse is zero meters.
At some point, things actually have to get fixed.

I think hornet3d is on to something. Of course, the idea that 'Rosity might be able to connect the forum issues to people withholding purchases is a bit of a stretch.

Don't worry everything is going to be fine...just fine

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I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 - Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU . The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

Fellow Posers ... word has gotten to the administrators that I am compiling a list of issues to be addressed in the forums. If we could focus here and get lists from you folks I will get it to them in the next couple days. This is great news guys, they ARE listening. :) I'm gathering what we have so far. But I would like to make it as complete as I can. I need your help here.

Thanks

Boni

"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork

Update: I am copying and pasting all your posts from this thread and others. Then I will editing them for easier reading (without losing the essence of your posts I assure you) and get that master list to the administrators by FRIDAY. I want to give you guys a chance to get it all on here. :)

Boni

"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork

I agree. Taking potshots at the forum and Rosity, while cathartic, aren't doing anything to help rectify the problems that exist. Running away and hiding your head in the sand won't get anything done either. You're being offered an opportunity, at least, so if you don't take it then the next time you're looking for someone to blame for nothing getting done, make sure you include yourself in that mix.

Might be a stretch, but if it was put back the way it was before there would be very few issues to address.

List.

The forum is slow, very slow. If the server is getting swamped with requests that would be understandable.
Can't attach things related to Poser, which is very counter productive.
Formatting should automatically be removed when you paste something into the reply box. The format options are there if you want to format.
Preview post. Not being able to do that just seems really odd and screams that no one cares what it looks like after posted.
Auto scroll when you are doing a post.
Write a better CSS, not everyone still uses a 800x600 monitor, or whatever minuscule one it is written for.
Add some options, you know, so it is easier to use. User customization without having to know CSS..
Document what you do change. Having options hidden all over the place is odd as well.
Make the forum basically the same across different browsers. Use php if you have to so the correct html code gets sent to the user. That is what it is for...
Set the site up so we can block all the crap that it goes thru now, and still be able to see the site. As it stands now if you block it, you get basically nothing. If you want to farm something, by a plow.
Drop the avatar circle thing, it mess up more peoples avatars than not. Either that or put cross hairs in it to kill us off faster.
You have go to top of page, how about go to bottom?

For God's sake, don't tell us you are going to fix it unless you actually plan on doing it. We have been hearing this for months.

Soon is trademarked by Daz you know.... Get a new excuse...

Feel free to delete this post. I will know it was there.

Some things are easy to explain, other things are not........ <- Store -> <-Freebies->

BTW, I did note yesterday, that I was using IE at work on Windows 7 Enterprise, and I couldn't see any icons anywhere. As I write this however, I am on my home desktop, a Mac, using OSX 10.6.8 and using Firefox. I can see ALL the icons clearly now. Just for giggles, I fired up Safari, as well, and I can see all the icons as well on that. The only weird anomaly I can see right off is that the "copy Link" icon, doesn't reveal it's name/function when i mouse over. In fact, it doesn't seem to recognize it at all. Also, there seems to be some writing on it, but I can't tell what it is.

Also, why not let posters amend the tags on a post? If I forgot to tag it for nudity, or language, I could just go back and do that instead of having to flag down a moderator.

Concerning issues with attachments and images, why not have users use something like Photobucket for hosting images and dropbox for hosting files until things get sorted at Renderosity? That way Users don't have to worry about file types that are or aren't supported by the current attachment system. Seems like a win win to me.

does photobucket allow mature content ?

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I agree. Taking potshots at the forum and Rosity, while cathartic, aren't doing anything to help rectify the problems that exist. Running away and hiding your head in the sand won't get anything done either. You're being offered an opportunity, at least, so if you don't take it then the next time you're looking for someone to blame for nothing getting done, make sure you include yourself in that mix.

You are right of course but it has been many months now that people have been complaining and very little has changed. If all you are doing is hitting your head against a brick wall you quickly come to the conclusion that all you are doing is getting a headache. I do wish those individuals who are putting themselves out to try and get this all fixed the very best of luck. Even more, I really hope that the powers that be really do not let them down after such efforts.

In my defence I have already stated the issues that I have found and many of the other issues have already been raised by others. I do commend the Rendo Team for being up front about the fact that their systems were at fault and taking make sure such a breach does not happen again but, the credit card breach was the last straw for me. I spend money on Poser for the fun and for relaxation I have not found visiting Rendo either fun or relaxing recently and, after spending a few hours on the phone with fraud departments, boy do I need to relax. Oh and just in case people think I am overreacting try and imagine seeing your credit card with over £3000 on it that you did not spend and within two weeks another £2000+, relaxed is certainly not how I felt at the time.

I am sorry if people think that is taking a 'pot shot' from my end it is just a statement of fact. I really do need to take a break from Rendo in general it ain't doing my health any good.

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 - Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU . The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

For you Hornet3d ... couldn't resist. Anything is possible with a little help. :) file_7f6ffaa6bb0b408017b62254211691b5.pn

Get those lists up here guys!

Sincerely

Boni

"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork

For you Hornet3d ... couldn't resist. Anything is possible with a little help. :)

Get those list up here guys!

Sincerely

Boni

Thanks. I know my render was a little cheeky but if it is a choice between depression and humour my humour normally wins.

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 - Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU . The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

does photobucket allow mature content ?

I honestly don't know but there are places you can host images at also. I'm just saying, if there's some growing pains here there are other ways to achieve the same and still post here. :) Anyway, carry on.

OK, here's my list:

First and foremost, restore/recover the years of work by Bagginsbill and Snarlygribbly in those forum posts which had attachments converted to garbage. Make some effort to show them their work/help/support of YOUR customers and users is appreciated. This is a moment to go above and beyond.

Give us back the ability to post an example python script or material file as a text file attachment.

Get rid of all the posting icons/nonsense and give me the OPTION to go to an advanced mode with limited HTML markup if I want to. A simple post with a link or an image shouldn't be as hard as this software makes it.

Allowing simple pasting of a link that STAYS a link. It should not take a degree in computer science to put a link in a forum post.

Realize your audience is text based, folks simply looking for an answer to a question, usually in a hurry, on a deadline, stuck trying to do something in Poser they can't understand how to do. Make getting those answers simple and painless and giving the answers less difficult.

TEST the site in multiple browsers and resolve the browser compatibility issues.

Compact the forum post display....the scrolling and scrolling and scrolling is unnecessary.

Remember that different users have different browser setups and window sizes. The site should recognize the monitor size and make an attempt to present the best display capable - and that includes spacing.

These are great! I'm going to present the admins with this whole thread on Friday along with posts from other threads. This is really constructive and I appreciate it.

Boni

"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork

On a side note, I LOVE the flying pigs!

My Store & My Freebies

For you Hornet3d ... couldn't resist. Anything is possible with a little help. :)

Get those list up here guys!

Sincerely

Boni

Thanks. I know my render was a little cheeky but if it is a choice between depression and humour my humour normally wins. Nothing wrong with a little humor now and then!

My Store & My Freebies

I don't know photobucket but as far as I can tell photobucket doesn't allow nudity

can't remember there names but there where a few photo forums hosting sites that where censored.

CGI,Posers never been censored much.

just as soon not start now.

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Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
Dark Sphere Mage Vengeance

I'm seeing flying pigs n haven't even started drinking yet. or was that pink elephant's ;)

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The Artist that will fight for decades to conquer their media.
Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
Dark Sphere Mage Vengeance

You can open your own dropbox account and get 2gb of free storage, where you can put images or files or whatever else you want and then share a link to that file with anyone you want to share it with. As long as the file doesn't violate 'rosity's tos, I don't see why there would be anything wrong with sharing those links here. I use it myself to share wips of my commission work with my clients all the time.

I'll check drop box out soon there's not a lot of info with out signing up,I need sleep.
I'm not worried about any one stealing my Art thou since I post it on the web.

I've never used anything like drop box .

is drop box censored ? can you post a .jpg here or on the gallery that's drop box is hosting ?

I've always tried to be respectful of forums tos's.

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Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
Dark Sphere Mage Vengeance

If you place an image in your message, there's a chance that you accidentally put text around it. You have no way to see that because while the cursor is in the letters aaa or bbb as in this post, you do not see them. The cursor (and the misplaced text) is off screen AT ALL TIMES while typing or moving around with arrow keys. The only way to see it is to slowly scroll your editor window, by grabbing the scroll bar thumb and dragging it.

By the way I have a huge screen - why must I do my editing in a tiny window that is just two inches high?

First paragraph.
AAA file_1385974ed5904a438616ff7bdb3f7439.jp BBB

Second paragraph.

Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)

The mistake described in the previous post is most common for me and due to another mistake.

When uploading an image, there is a period of time when the server is recompressing it, for no reason.

During this time interval, you have no visual cue that the image is coming.

Due to being conditioned to edit in a tiny window in which new material is often off screen, you think that the image is there and you just can't see it because the editor doesn't scroll properly, and you're used to that.

Well so you start typing. Except the damn image arrives in the middle of your typing. As you continue to type, it may jump out of the way and you don't even realize that you now have half your paragraph before the image and half after.

Further - as I type or use arrow keys to move the cursor, there is the possibiility (particularly when an image taller than the editor window is present) that the entire HTML page jumps as well. This is very disorienting. I often lose track of what I'm typing as the entire page moves by several inches. Given that the editor window is only two inches, that is extremely confusing.

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So - compounding several problems

Tiny editor window

Delayed image posting with no visual feedback.

Image further delayed by needless recompression.

Cursor routinely off-screen.

Spurious window + page jumping - (scrolling the editor window by typing or arror keys can also scroll spontanouesly scroll the entire HTML page). When this happens I get so disoriented that there is a very good chance I'm not going to notice I made a mistake with posting an image.

Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)

I know all of that sounds like corner case - who cares.

Well - it's like 80% of my rendo life - posting pictures and explaining what you're seeing.

Since that activity is now so painful and confusing, I have pretty much removed 80% of my participation.

Not cool.

Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)

- why must I do my editing in a tiny window that is just two inches high?

You can re-size the text box by dragging the bottom of the window up or down with the left mouse button.

The image will be placed at whatever point in the body of your post that your cursor is located when you hit the "picture" icon up top.

file_06409663226af2f3114485aa4e0a23b4.jp

That's interesting - thanks. I never noticed.

Nor did I notice (as I just found it) the full screen button, which I will be using from now on.

The resize bar is good, but doesn't remember where I left it. Further, it is so close to the bottom of the page that to use it I had to drag the bar, then scroll the entire page, then drag the bar a little more, then scroll the page again, then drag the bar some more. Tedious - neat idea, but poor user experience.

I just went over to runtimedna to see if they had this feature. They do - but unlike here, the size I selected is retained and shows up on every page I visit, and they have enough extra stuff below the editor that I can resize it in one drag.

That's the same feature done wrong and done right. It's why I (and others) think the job done here is unfinished and poorly tested or thought about.

Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)

Ugh - but when I use the full-screen option, the Post button is gone!

I have to un-full screen first before I can post. That's awkward, too.

Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)

I'd forgotten there was a full screen button - lol. I never use it. But yes, that's an option too.

Thank you ... we are discovering a lot here ... sometimes more than we even expected. Even as a coordinator, alas I would like to add, that these discoveries ... the "fixes" should be made available to all. Perhaps once things are done we can make a little tute on our site. As mentioned some of these things seem hidden, not obvious. Just a thought. Carry on.

Boni

"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork

This also might seem odd, but I'd like to add things I actually like about the site changes. I like that we CAN add photos directly in the text frame ... and videos. Some sites make that a two screen process. Some only let you add one image per post. This I would say is a vast improvement.

Boni

"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork

This also might seem odd, but I'd like to add things I actually like about the site changes. I like that we CAN add photos directly in the text frame ... and videos. Some sites make that a two screen process. Some only let you add one image per post. This I would say is a vast improvement.

Boni

Both Hivewire, and RDNA sites have "Advanced" screens and "Post quick reply" screens. Maybe something like that might be a better option, particularly for someone like BagginsBill.

Multiple Quotes in a reply. (Multi-quote capability) Either a UI Button in the Reply options to format an embedded quote or "multiquote" option buttons beside each post, so they can be toggled to be added to the reply when it's created.
Variable size composition window for replies. (A little window drag-sizer icon at the lower-right corner of the window.)
Non-volatile memory for the reply window. I just had to retype this because I clicked on the "Full Page" option and back-paged to return to this window and it dumped everything I had written. :)
Would automatically interpreted hotlinks be too much to ask? (ie: Pasted raw links) Or, is the forum going to be blocking all html commands?
Please take the Forum Monster out back, behind the office, and shoot it in the head - It likes to eat my posts... :)
Auto-refreshing after Reply, so I can see my reply in the thread so I don't have to actually click on the thread's link in order to force a refresh.
A "Do Art More Better" button beside each post, so I can re-render the posted render in order to make it look more betterer... ;)
A "Thank You, You're Awesome" button that appears besides any BagginsBill post, so I can click it, lots. (Seriously.)

I'm just going to list one like and one dislike, things that bug me...

I can browse and load multiple images to a post, not just one image per post like previous. That is an improvement.
The search function is still broken IMHO. If it isn't 'broken' please post the protocols for effective operation, because they aren't what I would think are logical. As an example, post 'pearl shader' and see what you get. To actually find anything where pearl is mentioned at the top of the search returns, you have to go into advanced mode and incrementally increase the range. I found it by extending the range to cover 1 day to 1500 days (excessive maybe, but 700 days didn't cut it). What is so hard about searching sequentially? 'pearl' then filter returns by 'shader'...or 'shader' first, then filter to posts that also include 'pearl'.

Enough, please, with the vanishing scroll bar.

My main problem may be caused by a recent update of my security program, but I will mention it anyway: I am more and more surprised when ANY Rendo page opens correctly, but especially Forum pages, as I usually get "Page not responding" notices which sometimes close the page (refresh will not reopen) or even kick me from the internet. I had also thought the update was making this place run slower, but that seems to be an actual issue for others as well, so I am not sure just how much of the PNR notices are ads being blocked and how much are speed issues where the page is, in fact, not responding.

Adding to my post, above:

Do not automatically subscribe to threads in which you have created a reply. (If this is a toggled feature, I don't know how to untoggle it. :) )
The reply window should filter out unprinted text commands, like line-feeds and page-breaks. Currently, they are still being detected and included when pasting from certain formats. ie:
commands

the font on top of forum the title of the threads the fonts a bit on the large size.

I like the colors and darkness of the forums

every one wanted ignore buttons but no one will use them.
I think when the fighting starts the mods alt to be able to put those fighting on each others ignore list.

and copy paste fixed

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The Artist that will fight for decades to conquer their media.
Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
Dark Sphere Mage Vengeance

Tomorrow morning I will be sending the link to this thread as the primary source for issues with the forum to the administrators (along with a few other instances in other threads). Thank you all your cooperation and contributions.

Sincerely

Boni

"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork

Adding to my post, above:

Do not automatically subscribe to threads in which you have created a reply. (If this is a toggled feature, I don't know how to untoggle it. :) )

The reply window should filter out unprinted text commands, like line-feeds and page-breaks. Currently, they are still being detected and included when pasting from certain formats. ie:
commands

For the auto-notifications on reply, right underneath the reply box is a yellow bar with a toggle "Notify me when someone replies". Uncheck that before you post.

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Adding to my post, above:

Do not automatically subscribe to threads in which you have created a reply. (If this is a toggled feature, I don't know how to untoggle it. :) )

The reply window should filter out unprinted text commands, like line-feeds and page-breaks. Currently, they are still being detected and included when pasting from certain formats. ie:
commands

For the auto-notifications on reply, right underneath the reply box is a yellow bar with a toggle "Notify me when someone replies". Uncheck that before you post.

Where is it in the Hivewire forum because that little feature is really starting to p*ss me off. I think that feature on ANY forum should be defaulted to the off position.

Adding to my post, above:

Do not automatically subscribe to threads in which you have created a reply. (If this is a toggled feature, I don't know how to untoggle it. :) )

The reply window should filter out unprinted text commands, like line-feeds and page-breaks. Currently, they are still being detected and included when pasting from certain formats. ie:
commands

For the auto-notifications on reply, right underneath the reply box is a yellow bar with a toggle "Notify me when someone replies". Uncheck that before you post.

Where is it in the Hivewire forum because that little feature is really starting to p*ss me off. I think that feature on ANY forum should be defaulted to the off position.

For Hivewire, click your username in the upper right > Settings > Notifications tab. You might want to untick the 2 options under the Discussions heading in that tab. Those will subscribe you to topics you start regardless of what the subscribe button on the topic says.

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for renderosity there's a unsubscribe in red at the top of the thread also.

to each his own

I like n need my some one posted notification .but I only get them some times even thou I have subscribe to a thread.
has something to do with if I have posted in that thread with in a certain amount of time I think ,just a guess.

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Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
Dark Sphere Mage Vengeance

the threaads on top of forum the title of the threads use to change colors so ya knew if ya clicked on it or not.

would like to have that back

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Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
Dark Sphere Mage Vengeance

I haven't minded Rendo's forum notifications because they all get filtered into Gmail's Forum tab and not clutter up my main inbox.

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The lack of forum notification is my biggest complaint. I'm tired of "checking back" to see if something is new in my threads.

Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)

Greetings Fellow Posites.

I have sent a list including this thread to the administrators along with some of my own observations concerning various functional an social issues that has happened recently in the forum. They will be reviewing this and should get these handled in a timely manner. I want to thank all of you again for your participation. I will keep you updated as to our progress. :)

Boni

"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork

Greetings Fellow Posites.

I have sent a list including this thread to the administrators along with some of my own observations concerning various functional an social issues that has happened recently in the forum. They will be reviewing this and should get these handled in a timely manner. I want to thank all of you again for your participation. I will keep you updated as to our progress. :)

Boni

Thank you, Boni. Most of all, for caring!

The lack of forum notification is my biggest complaint. I'm tired of "checking back" to see if something is new in my threads.

I'm with eclark, in that I don't need an email every time someone responds, but I do like having the OPTION back for folks like you.

Please, any of you ... don't hesitate to contact me with any issues you may feel uncomfortable bringing up in open forums. I will look into requests. Thanks.

Boni

"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork

Just found out the site has problems with non-ASCII characters. I posted a gallery image with a new gold lamé shader. The e with acute didn't survive passing through the editor on its way into the gallery.

It might have had something to do with previewing the post first, which I did.

Seems OK in the forum though.

Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)

Greetings Fellow Posites.

I have sent a list including this thread to the administrators along with some of my own observations concerning various functional an social issues that has happened recently in the forum. They will be reviewing this and should get these handled in a timely manner. I want to thank all of you again for your participation. I will keep you updated as to our progress. :)

Boni

I will be watching very closely to see if and when anything actually gets done. I really do like to try and give people the benefit of the doubt, but I'm not an idiot about it.

I don't recall seeing this one mentioned, but it bugs the hell out of me:

After quoting someone, the first keyboard return is ignored and treated like a line no-space line break, which leaves no space between paragraphs, even though, in the text editor box, it clearly shows a new paragraph. Putting in an extra return to avoid this, however, doesn't work, as the first actually shows up then and you get a really big space.

Not a bug but... the huge difference in font size between quotes and posted text is silly and extremely unfriendly to people with vision problems who use larger fonts. In fact, the relationships between the sizes of various elements (icons vs text, banners vs text, etc, etc) is completely out of whack. The entire site needs to be tested for ACCESSIBILITY, otherwise it's seriously discriminating against the vision/hearing/mobility impaired. And while that's totally legal, it's superbly bad customer service.

Quotes should show the username of the person quoted.

PoserPro 2014, PS CS5.5 Ext, Nikon D300. Win 8, i7-4770 @ 3.4 GHz, AMD Radeon 8570, 12 GB RAM.

Boni,

Would it be too much to ask that who ever needs to fix this forum, make a post acknowleging that they have indeed read this thread? Frankly, considering how long we've been complaining, I don't think it's too much to ask for a sign of good faith from Renderosity that something indeed will be done to fix the problems we've listed.

How do I edit my signature?

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Not a bug but... the huge difference in font size between quotes and posted text is silly and extremely unfriendly to people with vision problems who use larger fonts.

..

Quotes should show the username of the person quoted.

The quoted text being larger than the actual post has annoyed me from day one. I was sure it was just a temporary glitch, but months later it remains unchanged, so obviously somebody thinks IT SOMEHOW MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THE QUOTED TEXT SHOUTING EVEN THOUGH ITS PURPOSE IS ONLY TO GIVE CONTEXT TO THE POST WHICH FOLLOWSand the posted text itself is somewhat lost on the page, even though it is the entire point of the forum, it's what we come here to read,

and then you think this is a continuation of my post, but it's difficult to understand how it relates to my post until you realise that it isn't actually part of the post, it's my signature, a pretentious quote or something which is confusing the first time you read it, and every time after that it's just plain fucking annoying and you have to turn everyone's signatures off to make it go away.

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Make the quoted text LESS visually dominant (LESS, not more) than the post which follows, it's purpose is secondary to the post.

Give the name of the person being quoted. As well as being polite, it is helpful.

Draw some sort of line after the posted text and before the signature so the eye doesn't just run uninterrupted into the signature in every post in every thread. Make the signature text LESS dominant than the post text. Signatures serve a purpose (supplementary links and background info) but they are useless if they are so annoying that they have to be turned off.

Really, why is this basic stuff so difficult? Even with all the great precedent, a million examples of forums which work really well out there, why did Rendo have to ignore all that and start from scratch inventing one which fails on almost every level? Welcome to the new improved Rendo forums, really awkward to read and really hard to post in. Money well spent, I'd say.

How to edit a post? There is obviously a time limit. Take away that way to short time limit. And where are the smilies. I'd like to put a real crumpy face in here.

"Give the name of the person being quoted. As well as being polite, it is helpful."

I wholeheartedly agree. Along with it being polite, it would also cut down on attributing things quoted by one person from being thought to have come from another person. Especially if you have the person being quoted on ignore.
I might also suggest having quotes within quote marks and italizied.

Greetings.

I personally e-mailed this thread among other comments throughout the forum to a major administrator as per their request from me. So as far as I know this is being looked into by the administrators. Just to let you know. :)

Boni

"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork

Really, why is this basic stuff so difficult? Even with all the great precedent, a million examples of forums which work really well out there, why did Rendo have to ignore all that and start from scratch inventing one which fails on almost every level? Welcome to the new improved Rendo forums, really awkward to read and really hard to post in. Money well spent, I'd say.

(Notice that I manually changed the font of the quote to italics and placed a horizontal line after it. I tried to reduce the font size, but there's no option for that.)

This puzzles me as well. Not only are there millions of examples of forums to use as guides, there are any number of third party bulletin boards that you can just drop in to your site. vBulletin is one that has been around for years.

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How do I edit my signature?

Top of the page > Forums > My Forum Options

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Boni,

Would it be too much to ask that who ever needs to fix this forum, make a post acknowleging that they have indeed read this thread? Frankly, considering how long we've been complaining, I don't think it's too much to ask for a sign of good faith from Renderosity that something indeed will be done to fix the problems we've listed.

I am still keeping an eye on this topic and if any results are coming. It's been four days as of this post and so far my request that someone who will be working on the forum at least acknowlege that they have at least read the thread of forum greivances seems to have been ignored. If they can't (or won't) even grant a simple request like that, I have little hope that anything else will change. But since it is only four days so far, I'm still willing to give the benefit of the doubt.

A "me too" and I'd like to add I had to manually look for the recent reply since I do not get emails about replies but for a few rare examples, and only for about a day on any given thread - then nothing forever more.

At the very least, the cynic in me would appreciate something like "I looked at the email code and I can't see what's wrong - perhaps you could help, Ted." Because I could help. I get paid to write software (which happens to work - what a shock)

Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)

bagginsbill : since your all ready the shader master how about you be the forum master also

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Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
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Greetings.

I personally e-mailed this thread among other comments throughout the forum to a major administrator as per their request from me. So as far as I know this is being looked into by the administrators. Just to let you know. :)

Boni

SIX DAYS later and still no acknowledgement from anyone at Renderosity that anyone other than Boni, Shane and Fictionalbookshelf have even seen this thread. SIX days. All I asked for was one lousy stinking post from ANYONE other than a forum moderator at Rendo to at least acknowledge that they have read this thread and there's STILL no response.

Ach Earl, do not get nervous.
It's only been a year that "some" promised to adapt the header to take less space.
Some of the header surfaces here are a textbook example of "Pollution".

Proposition :

We

should

all

start

to

write

in

the

same

way

as

the

forum

header.

Poser 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, P8 and PPro2010, P9 and PP2012, P10 and PP2014 Game Dev
"Do not drive faster then your angel can fly"!

Damm,

my

is

too

short.

It

fits

on

a

single

1920x1080

page.

Poser 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, P8 and PPro2010, P9 and PP2012, P10 and PP2014 Game Dev
"Do not drive faster then your angel can fly"!

Oh,
and

please

do

not

edit

your

posts

twice.

All

your

first

changes

are

lost

in

heaven.

Poser 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, P8 and PPro2010, P9 and PP2012, P10 and PP2014 Game Dev
"Do not drive faster then your angel can fly"!

Sorry

Rendero

Just

writing

in

your

own

header

style.

If

you

can

do

that?

So

can

we.

LOL.

Poser 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, P8 and PPro2010, P9 and PP2012, P10 and PP2014 Game Dev
"Do not drive faster then your angel can fly"!

EClark1894 : found out who owns renderosity and call the CEO.

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Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
Dark Sphere Mage Vengeance

But
do

it

vertically.
LOL.

Poser 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, P8 and PPro2010, P9 and PP2012, P10 and PP2014 Game Dev
"Do not drive faster then your angel can fly"!

S E R I O U S???

What clown messed up the freebie section??

Poser 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, P8 and PPro2010, P9 and PP2012, P10 and PP2014 Game Dev
"Do not drive faster then your angel can fly"!

I am sorry there is no word ... I have forwarded the "free stuff" thread to the administration forums just now. I will try to get some feedback to you next week.

Boni

"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork

How come the banner aren't rotating anymore? It's not a bug or a big deal, just curious.

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Check out my store here or my free stuff here
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I am sorry there is no word ...

Not a big surprise, but thanks for trying...

Some things are easy to explain, other things are not........ <- Store -> <-Freebies->

I don't get why ya need to close ya account.if ya don't want to come back ,don't.
I've never closed a account anywhere I just don't go there.what am I missing ?

anyways did renderosity get sold to politicians or did they just stop supporting the free parts forums n freestuff or go broke or what ?

at this point it's way past just a error .

Writings on the Wall.

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Even if you never know their name ,your know their Art.
Dark Sphere Mage Vengeance

I don't get why ya need to close ya account.if ya don't want to come back ,don't.
I've never closed a account anywhere I just don't go there.what am I missing ?

There's no drama in that... ;)

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NINE days, no response from Renderosity Admins. It's becoming rather obvious that they just don't care. If they do, they sure seem to have a funny way of showing it.

All you really have to do is a little investigation, and you can see where and who the site is linked to. .

Consumer Affairs lists them as 1 out of 5, and not accredited. 52 out of 53 listed gave it a 1 out of 5. 22 gave it a 0..........

Average response time to complaints it listed from a few months to a few years.

I would have to guess Rendo is stuck in a contract with them, like may others that have complained about the lack of service and horrid websites.

All of this is public information, and can be found by doing a few Whois checks.

The Better Business Bureau has pulled the hosting companies in question ratings pending a review.

This does not tell who actually does the programming, but it does tell where it is hosted along with the thousand of complaints about them.

I seriously hope thry can get away from this company before they are stuck in the Weblock extortion program. If you opt out of that, you will loose you web name at renewal and have to pay a hefty fee to get it back. Don't believe me? Look at the class action suit from 2008 and see how well that went.

Some things are easy to explain, other things are not........ <- Store -> <-Freebies->

NINE days, no response from Renderosity Admins. It's becoming rather obvious that they just don't care. If they do, they sure seem to have a funny way of showing it.

Do we have any names of these "admins" and "programmers" that we're supposed to be waiting for? I don't get what the delay in a response is but as far as I'm concerned these are the worst "admins" I've never seen in a while. And as for these "programmers", well... they managed to destroy a once esthetically appealing site and left an ugly husk of large stupid fonts and wasted space in its wake. 640x480 and 1996 called and they want their designs back, because the way this forum looks right now is embarrassing.

NINE days, no response from Renderosity Admins. It's becoming rather obvious that they just don't care. If they do, they sure seem to have a funny way of showing it.

Do we have any names of these "admins" and "programmers" that we're supposed to be waiting for? I don't get what the delay in a response is but as far as I'm concerned these are the worst "admins" I've never seen in a while. And as for these "programmers", well... they managed to destroy a once esthetically appealing site and left an ugly husk of large stupid fonts and wasted space in its wake. 640x480 and 1996 called and they want their designs back, because the way this forum looks right now is embarrassing.

Under the Header above where it Says ABOUT US, click on the dropdown list "RENDEROSITY TEAM". To be honest, I'm rather surprised that this particular thread has even lasted this long and hasn't been locked or deleted. However, now considering their apparent apathy in fixing the forums or responding to our concerns, I have to reiterate... I just don't think they care.

Not to jump on the mr.complainy pants bandwagon but I too agree that the old site was much better looking and seemed to function better. Most of these aesthetic things I guess we're just going to have to get used to. Miffed that some of our prior liberties with how we interacted with one another on the forum have been removed, in particular attachments.

Don't know if it's been mentioned before, but if you copy a piece of text from somewhere in your message, and paste it somewhere else in that same message, it doesn't copy the formatting, things like Bold and Italic etc.

For example, if I were to copy that line I just wrote, and then paste it somewhere else in this message, it will copy the words, but it replaces the formatting with markup rather than show what the markup is supposed to be setting.

NINE days, no response from Renderosity Admins. It's becoming rather obvious that they just don't care. If they do, they sure seem to have a funny way of showing it.

Do we have any names of these "admins" and "programmers" that we're supposed to be waiting for? I don't get what the delay in a response is but as far as I'm concerned these are the worst "admins" I've never seen in a while. And as for these "programmers", well... they managed to destroy a once esthetically appealing site and left an ugly husk of large stupid fonts and wasted space in its wake. 640x480 and 1996 called and they want their designs back, because the way this forum looks right now is embarrassing.

I am going to be in Murfreesboro, Tn in Jun (I have relatives that live a few blocks away & I am from Nashville originally). I am going to go by and chat with them about their shitty service.

I am going to be in Murfreesboro, Tn in Jun (I have relatives that live a few blocks away & I am from Nashville originally). I am going to go by and chat with them about their shitty service.

LOL, ssgbryan, don't go getting yourself in trouble......we don't want to see you on the evening news being carted off to jail.

I am going to be in Murfreesboro, Tn in Jun (I have relatives that live a few blocks away & I am from Nashville originally). I am going to go by and chat with them about their shitty service.

LOL, ssgbryan, don't go getting yourself in trouble......we don't want to see you on the evening news being carted off to jail.

No, I won't be getting myself in any trouble. Just talking in an even tone of voice discussing the "quality" of their service, such as it is and what there is of it.

It looks like the forum is randomly stripping the images from posts and replacing them with the URL. Was just watching the videos on page 3 of the pirates thread and noticed that Seachnasaigh's Roxie Jukebox render has disappeared. I've noticed this happening before but can't remember where it was now.

You aren't being ignored, I've been communicating with the admins. and they are working on things ... I'm not privy to the details and don't have "names" but I am assured things are moving forward. Sorry, I've been doing a lot of things in the forum and with the FAQ update and neglected this thread. I do apologize.

Boni

"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork

You aren't being ignored, I've been communicating with the admins. and they are working on things ... I'm not privy to the details and don't have "names" but I am assured things are moving forward. Sorry, I've been doing a lot of things in the forum and with the FAQ update and neglected this thread. I do apologize.

I'll believe it when I see some changes, and not one second sooner.

If it seems I've been a little quieter, it's not at all because I've calmed down and I'm "getting used to the changes". The forum is acting more fucked up than it did a week ago.

I am more pissed off than ever and seem to be dealing with a management team that likes to hide how they can't handle the situation.

Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)

Just because getting myself madder is a hobby, I went back and read what the management team has said about the changes and problems.

(See this thread for originals statements -lots of complaints which we're still having - no difference)

This is the one that has me staring wide-eyed, saying "Whaaaaat?" Are you fucking kidding me?

StaceyG () () posted at 4:41PM Wed, 29 October 2014 Site Admin

Thank you to the programmers for these updated and amazing forum changes. Awesome Awesome, I LOVE IT!! These changes (like all others) are based on member feedback from survey's, forum requests, sitemail requests, emails, etc . Unfortunately no matter what there will always be some that don't like any changes and we understand but these changes were made based on mainly due to member feedback so we think that most will love them and that makes us very happy!!. Sometimes it's a matter of getting used to new things but once given a chance it all turns good!!

This is self-congratulatory delusion of the worst kind.

I have no faith in the situation until this statement is explicitly retracted, and a detailed list of what is actually being done is provided.

Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)

Check this out from the community forum

RodS () () posted at 11:05PM Mon, 13 April 2015

My email notifications seem to have stopped, and some folks seem to not be able to get to Renderosity at all. Server issues??

Thanks

"I reject your reality and substitute my own" - Adam Savage
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KimberlyC () () posted at 12:27AM Tue, 14 April 2015 Site Admin

I haven't heard of anything RodS. How long have your email notifications stopped?

What do you mean you haven't heard of anything, Kimberly? I have been complaining that the ebots don't work for six months. WTF do I have to do to get somebody who can read, understand, and respond accurately and without delusion to the issues?

Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)

Blimey, I wonder if what David points out at the top of this page has something to do with it then. I've not bothered to look into it (I'm not visiting any WHOIS), but if they're hosted by some scam outfit as David seems to suggest, I suppose there's a chance the site could be being tampered with in order to force them to pay-up to leave.

StaceyG () () posted at 4:41PM Wed, 29 October 2014 Site Admin

Thank you to the programmers for these updated and amazing forum changes. Awesome Awesome, I LOVE IT!! These changes (like all others) are based on member feedback from survey's, forum requests, sitemail requests, emails, etc .

Wow! They redesign the entire site based on some "member feedback" (so accommodating!), and then for the next six months they are absolutely blind and deaf to any and all feedback on those changes? Because it's Awsome Awsome, apparently. So... someone actually asked for the sitemail notification icon to be removed huh? Sure they did. And someone actually asked for the really big-arse fonts in just a few places (to aid legibility or something? Presumably legibility wasn't an issue everywhere else)? Riiiight.

We should probably be thankful none of this "member feedback" asked for Comic Sans fonts everywhere...

StaceyG () () posted at 4:41PM Wed, 29 October 2014 Site Admin

Thank you to the programmers for these updated and amazing forum changes. Awesome Awesome, I LOVE IT!! These changes (like all others) are based on member feedback from survey's, forum requests, sitemail requests, emails, etc .

Wow! They redesign the entire site based on some "member feedback" (so accommodating!), and then for the next six months they are absolutely blind and deaf to any and all feedback on those changes? Because it's Awsome Awsome, apparently. So... someone actually asked for the sitemail notification icon to be removed huh? Sure they did. And someone actually asked for the really big-arse fonts in just a few places (to aid legibility or something? Presumably legibility wasn't an issue everywhere else)? Riiiight.

We should probably be thankful none of this "member feedback" asked for Comic Sans fonts everywhere...

LOL, they might should be careful that the member feedback says the store should look more like Renderotica. Oh......wait.........

Ach, the only change today, is that I no longer have to buy a Samsung. Now they want me to buy a Seat car.
Well, from phones to cars, nice way to go in a Poser forum.

The only thing being OT , (and be asured, I will NEVER write an OT tread any more. . . .) The only thing being OT is Renderosity itself.

Tomorrow , when I come back they are probably selling bread and butter in the Marketplace, next to their Seat cars and Samsung phones.

Oh BTW, I pulled my free stuff. I"ll upload them back to a 3D site somewhere.

Have a nice day all.

Poser 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, P8 and PPro2010, P9 and PP2012, P10 and PP2014 Game Dev
"Do not drive faster then your angel can fly"!

Damn, he really has removed them all.

OK, own up which idiot actually asked to have all your previous forum response text deleted when you do a copy and paste, just so you can type it all again or more likely, give up and not bother with a response.

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 - Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU . The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

OK, own up which idiot actually asked to have all your previous forum response text deleted when you do a copy and paste, just so you can type it all again or more likely, give up and not bother with a response.

ROFL, hornet, it was a survey response, donchaknow!

Can someone fix the PM's, can't even send a message!
It behaves like it's been sent, but actually it doesn't show-up in the Sent Box, not even after the usual messed-up delay.

The person and/or persons that owns Renderosity also owns Bondware (the makers of this forum software), I'm pretty sure ;). So, it's not like they can "get away" from the company since they ARE the company ;). At least that used to be the case. AFAIK, the site has not changed hands.

Laurie

Good point, yes, I remember that Bondware name.

Just got a notification that Cybermonk has sent me a message, I don't even know who Cybermonk is, and when I logged on, there's no message. So if you're reading this, Cybermonk, I got a notification that you sent me a message, but no actual message.

I'm starting to wonder if my messages have been disabled for some reason, seems odd that others can generate a notification, so no doubt it's in their outbox. I don't get that, and I just tried again to send a message to Vilters and Clarkie, still dosen't work.

Wow. that's an odd one, I just noticed another bug!

In my post above I corrected the typo from "dosen't" to "doesn't" - and I know it took because I checked. But now, after a page refresh a while later, it's decided to undo the spelling correction I made and spell it wrong again!

Put it back I tell you, put it back :-D

"This ain't no technological breakdown
Oh no, this is The Road to Hell"

Wow, I just went over to FB, to see if the admin were busy posting over there. And wow, some of the stuff posted. Really, supporting a business that discriminates because it goes against values you don't hold as your own, just because religion is involved, and on a FB account that you spam Rendo stuff on. This makes even more sense now, as to why certain things have been the way they are where I am concerned. I think from now on, I will just buy from the artist directly, give the full Rendo price to them if I need something from now on. I can't support a site which the head admin blatantly supports inequality of any kind. Religious or not...

I am not on Farce book so I can't really comment on that aspect. I would however, quite happily not shop here ever again and that has nothing to do with religion. Trouble is it leaves me with the uneasy feeling that I am punishing vendors because they chose a broker that seems to love messing things up and has/had holes in their order process. The compromise I have come to is that I will now only purchase from the vendors who I follow and who's products I have purchased for a number of years. My spend so far this month, if you ignore my render reward, is down to less than 25% on average and I think very hard before I reach for my credit card.

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 - Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU . The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

Same as Hornet, I would never visit Farcebook so I don't know what you're referring to.

Just got a message and replied, and this time it's in my sent box, but if you don't get the message, I can't help it, it's the forum software.

Sorry, Mahakali, I haven't sent you a second reply yet. I posted that earlier comment after replying to your first message, but I saw the second one sitting in my Inbox so I thought I'd better grab it before the forum decides to. So I have your new message, I just haven't read it yet, I had to stop half way through so I decided to leave it for later, so bear with me.

Update: I am copying and pasting all your posts from this thread and others. Then I will editing them for easier reading (without losing the essence of your posts I assure you) and get that master list to the administrators by FRIDAY. I want to give you guys a chance to get it all on here. :) <----- This was in March, six weeks ago.

You aren't being ignored, I've been communicating with the admins. and they are working on things ... I'm not privy to the details and don't have "names" but I am assured things are moving forward. <------- This was a month ago

So... things are moving forward huh?

Things always must move forward , but forward can be many directions ;-)

I dont find these forums to be a problem, but I would love to be able to attach text files for passing python scripts and material files without resorting to "heres my email".

It worries me a bit (not much actually) that I thought renderosity was owned by Bondware which makes websites as its business. Maybe I have that wrong but I can understand a website with limited knowledge and skills having issues, not so much if websites are your business.

Anyway, relax, have a drink, I believe the moderators and Admins are doing the best they can.

thankful for option to ignore troll msgs, but would still like option to ignore threads they start.

Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL

Subject: What Needs to be fixed in the forum?