Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Nerd3D is the new Product Manager for Poser

nerd opened this issue on Apr 06, 2015 · 79 posts


nerd posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 3:20 PM Forum Moderator

Yeah I'll be trying to fill Steve Cooper's shoes as Poser's Product Manager. Today is my first official day but I've been trying to come up- to speed for about a week.

I'll be here for you when you have questions. Please, if you have ideas don't be shy, let me know. Maybe your idea can be a feature in the next version of Poser.


Boni posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 3:25 PM

Let me be the first to congratulate you.  This is wonderful.  I'm happy for you!!!

Boni



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ArtByMel posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 3:27 PM

Wow, congrats to you!!

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Teyon posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 3:36 PM

We're all really happy to have Charles on board! Here's to a bright future!


Pret-a-3D posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 3:44 PM

Hi Charles, congratulations on your new position. The Poser community is lucky to have gained such expert to be in the driver seat for Poser. Does this mean that we are neighbors now?:)

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pumeco posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 3:46 PM

Yeah, listen Nerd, sounds cool, just as long as you know there are certain Poser girls who refuse to be managed!!!

Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade


EClark1894 posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 3:50 PM

Congrats, Nerd, or is that Mr. Nerd now?




Sa_raneth posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 3:58 PM

congrats Nerd!!!!!


Miss Nancy posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 4:00 PM

great news, nerd!  I daresay we got quite a few requests.

p.s I still got "nerd stuff" from '99 in poser 4 runtime.



nerd posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 4:00 PM Forum Moderator

Hey Paolo! Telecommuting and Commuting. We'll have to get together for lunch or something


Pret-a-3D posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 4:11 PM

Hey Paolo! Telecommuting and Commuting. We'll have to get together for lunch or something

Absolutely. Let me know when you are in Santa Cruz, I'll stop by and we can go to lunch. Cheers.

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WandW posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 4:35 PM

Cool Beans!  :D

Congrats, Charles!

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Alisa posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 4:37 PM

Already put my congrats in over at HiveWire, but want to add them here, too.  Congrats, Chuck -  They couldn't have made a better choice and they were super smart to grab you!

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EClark1894 posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 4:48 PM

This might ruin my glee, because he'll probably correct his "mistake" now, but I couldn't help but notice that this announcement was made on every forum except with one "intriguing" omission. :)




SamTherapy posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 5:14 PM

Many congreatulations!  Coop is a hard act to follow but I'm certain they picked the right guy here.  Well done you, and well done SM for hiring you.

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RedPhantom posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 5:19 PM Online Now! Site Admin

Congrats


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nerd posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 5:23 PM Forum Moderator

This might ruin my glee, because he'll probably correct his "mistake" now, but I couldn't help but notice that this announcement was made on every forum except with one "intriguing" omission. :)

Who's intriguing? Me? I resemble that! LOL


DCArt posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 5:32 PM

Pleased as can be! Many congrats and welcomes!



hborre posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 6:04 PM

Congrats and good luck.


bagginsbill posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 6:08 PM

Congrats!!! I'm very happy for you, and for me!


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vilters posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 6:44 PM

Fresh blood, fresh idea's.
New chief, new future.
And, LOL; Many good tutorials coming our way to enhance overall usability.
A bright and creative enhancement for Poser.
All the best, Tony

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Dale B posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 6:52 PM

Neat!

Now about those animation upgrades...... ;P


nerd posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 7:03 PM Forum Moderator

If it was just me it'd be all about animation LOL. You guys may not know but I rigged most of the characters for RWBY season two.That was an awesome experience. Taking on the PM job, I probably won't have time to do that for season three. That was a tough choice but I think I can actually benefit both RWBY (and all the animators) and Poser more from here.


markschum posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 7:27 PM

hmm, congratulations .

er, one question though, ....., is Poser going to optimised for chain mail bras and bikinis ? 


DCArt posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 7:32 PM

LOL I still have some of those on old backup CDs.



nerd posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 7:35 PM Forum Moderator

Why are they in a backup? They should be in your library favorites! They're a must for NPITWAS renders. That's Naked Posette not Vicky LOL.


DCArt posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 7:39 PM

I should do a render as a celebration tribute LOL



EClark1894 posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 8:45 PM

I hope to see something that will make rigging clothing a little simpler, easier and faster.




RedPhantom posted Mon, 06 April 2015 at 9:26 PM Online Now! Site Admin

If it was just me it'd be all about animation LOL.

Does that mean we might get new styling tools for the hair room so we can have hair that moves? I don't know about the other dynamic hair creators but I'd even be willing to remake my hair if new and easier to use tools meant no backward compatibility with old dynamic hair.


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hornet3d posted Tue, 07 April 2015 at 5:21 AM

Best Poser related news I have heard for a long while.  Many congratulations.

 

 

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Dale B posted Tue, 07 April 2015 at 5:27 AM

If it was just me it'd be all about animation LOL. You guys may not know but I rigged most of the characters for RWBY season two.That was an awesome experience. Taking on the PM job, I probably won't have time to do that for season three. That was a tough choice but I think I can actually benefit both RWBY (and all the animators) and Poser more from here.

You sneaky bastard! There were some tricks I saw in a video of one of the panels that looked familiar, I just couldn't place where I'd seen it! Are you the one who finally gave the girls fully rigged hands? And if we're making lists, maybe you could see if Wierd Juices Metaform is up for sale at a reasonable price. That little python script did some amazing things, and once it was multi-threaded to take advantage of current hardware, you would have a lovely poor man's RealFlow to play with. Maybe not on order of oceans and such, but it did lovely effects, and a shower is quite possible. Or broken pipes in a post apocalyptic set, etc...... Particularly if you could get it talking to Poser's physics engine. For that matter, a ragdoll module for Bullet would be nice, too...


MistyLaraCarrara posted Tue, 07 April 2015 at 8:18 AM

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EpiEndless posted Tue, 07 April 2015 at 8:45 AM

So.. what exactly is the Product Manager's role?


EClark1894 posted Tue, 07 April 2015 at 10:10 AM

So.. what exactly is the Product Manager's role?

He manages the product. :)




Khai-J-Bach posted Tue, 07 April 2015 at 11:28 AM

sorry to hear this Nerd.. you're now gonna get all the shit that comes out of the forums ,,, every bug, every person that disagrees with a programming choice, a policy choice..

good luck mate. you will need it... 



Lyne posted Tue, 07 April 2015 at 12:02 PM

Through I am not an animator, I'm assuming you will be focusing on ALL aspects of Poser... CONGRATULATIONS!  It just DAWNED on me that it was YOU that taught me how to use the cloth room in that youtube video I have book marked and go back to now and then! I've been afraid of the cloth room forever...but HAD to learn it, since a large % of clothes for Dawn are dynamic...and now seem to remember a voice saying hi, this is Chuck with Nerd3d... wait... WITH?? um.... is "Nerd3D" more than one person?  or wouldn't it be This is Chuck, pause Nerd3d, now I'm confused.... grin!

CONGRATULATIONS CHUCK!   :)    One thing I have wished for in Poser (though I do see there is a thread FOR that here at Rendo) ...but since I hope to have your attention...I'll speak up.... IS the ability to MOVE THE RENDERING IMAGE WHILE IT IS RENDERING... like in Carrara - that is so handy to check on the quality of the render or simply to check on where it is, in the process...-I do LARGE renders so most of the time it's "off screen" - and yes I do do test renders, but hey, it's nice, and its FUN to watch rendering in process. 

um and yes, I am a professional "run-on sentence writer"....sorry bout that. :) 

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duanemoody posted Tue, 07 April 2015 at 12:33 PM

Coop is a hard act to follow 

We'll always have a special place in our hearts for Poser 5, won't we. From one old timer to another, kudos Nerd.


nerd posted Tue, 07 April 2015 at 12:53 PM Forum Moderator

So.. what exactly is the Product Manager's role?

My primary function is to make sure Poser does what YOU need it to.


TT posted Tue, 07 April 2015 at 1:31 PM

Congrats! :)

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ThunderStone posted Tue, 07 April 2015 at 2:04 PM

Congrats, Nerd!!! SM and the whole Poser community is lucky to have you in the Product Manager position.


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pumeco posted Tue, 07 April 2015 at 3:34 PM

Well I'm with Dale and the others here, Poser definitely needs up-to-date Animation tools, they're really pushing animators patience as it is, so if the next big release is still a failure in the animation area, I think that would be seriously damaging to Poser - they have got to show the animators some love in the next release cause iClone is making a laughing stock of Poser and I'm guessing that's where all the "would-be" animators will go if something isn't done about it.

Anyway, I'm super-pleased to hear that Nerd is into the animation side of things, that's excellent news indeed!

Congrats on the position, Nerd, but as with all of them, you shall be judged on what becomes of Poser while she's under your power :-P
I hope to be able to say "Yup, that Nerd dude, he really brought Poser up to speed in all the right places!"

If you don't, I'm asking Smith Micro for your job next time around!


vilters posted Tue, 07 April 2015 at 4:09 PM

Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha- "Pumeco" or the "blade lady" as Poser managers. LOL. I quit, I quit, where can I quit !!!!!!!!! LOL.
All stations, clear to dive. Does a sub sink? Damm, it can.

BAIL out, BAIL out ! Grrrrrrrrrr, that blade lady cut my chute !!!
Now, I am dropping in the Devils And Zombies river......
LOL.

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Dale B posted Tue, 07 April 2015 at 7:26 PM

???

Too many 5 hour drinks, vilters......?  :P


grichter posted Tue, 07 April 2015 at 7:52 PM

Nerd, congrats. Hope before you start you can take a little time off and maybe go spend a day or 2 enjoying a "Tropical Cove", then spend another day or 2 watching the "Waves On The Beach". But whatever you do, don't work so hard you end up in "Boot Hill" before your time! .

Wondering what surprises a fresh pair of eyes does to all that code :)

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BadKittehCo posted Tue, 07 April 2015 at 8:28 PM

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pumeco posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 3:37 AM

@Dale
Yup, either that or he fell off his Quad-Bike and banged his head :-P

@Vilters
Don't worry, it'll never happen :-D


vilters posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 4:42 AM

Oh no guys, just happy that Poser got a well respected Poser manager to build a bright Poser future for us all to enjoy.
happy renderings, Tony

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EClark1894 posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 5:19 AM

Still no announcement on the DAZ forum about the good news. I so badly want to take that as a good sign that Poser is finally going to see Studio for what it is... the competition, not a partner.




primorge posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 7:41 AM

Congrats nerd...

Although tempered with a bit of apprehension, as, unfortunately for me (because I really value your tutorials and such on your site, nerd3d.com) my IP address is blocked by your site. No, I don't have a clue why and it's a recent development... I've never posted anything on your site or participated in your forums. If I visit your site from a different IP via wireless on the same device I am not blocked, so I'm left only with speculation. Anyway, apologies for the ot, Rendo.


wolf359 posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 9:56 AM

Congrats Charles I hope they pay well for the headaches

you are about to endure.

BTW your poser pro 2014 Video tutorials were quite 

helpful in getting  me up to speed after My making the huge leap

from poser 6 up to Pro 2014.

Although I have long been the bane of your predecessors existence with my endless rants about the Character animation tools, Just be aware that you sir will get no such grief from me.

As I have incorporated Iclone pro 5.5 with 3D exchange

for my Character animation creation and retargeting to my poser figures and Endorphin for my ragdoll action which also exports to poser compatibe BVH.

If I were to offer any unsolicited Advice  on major new features 

that would likley please the largest number of users,

It  would be to replace firefly with a proper PBR and make the material node system more user friendly, Like  the elegant system of blender.

Physically based GPU/CPU rendering is now in the hands of even the most Casual hobbiest's at ZERO ENTRY COSTS

( Blender,Cycles,Daz Iray ).

IMHO SM would be wise to get onboard.



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wolf359 posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 10:05 AM

"I so badly want to take that as a good sign that Poser is finally going to see Studio for what it is... the competition, not a partner."

Dont you mean poser users like yourself. :-)

Daz studio will truly never be "the competition" because

it is freeware.

thus I am not sure why you think this would be relevant news

to Daz users any more so than the hiring of a new product manager at Autodesk.



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EClark1894 posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 10:27 AM

"I so badly want to take that as a good sign that Poser is finally going to see Studio for what it is... the competition, not a partner."

Dont you mean poser users like yourself. :-)

Daz studio will truly never be "the competition" because

it is freeware.

thus I am not sure why you think this would be relevant news

to Daz users any more so than the hiring of a new product manager at Autodesk.

Because many DAZ users also use Poser so yeah, they might be interested. And no, Studio is definitely the competition. Admittedly, I could also argue that DAZ itself is the competition because nothing they have done since before Genesis came out has been to the benefit of Poser. I'm hoping that SM now realizes that and will move to correct the situation of full dependence on third parties for content.




Glitterati3D posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 10:50 AM

Daz studio will truly never be "the competition" because it is freeware.

And, just how long do you think it would remain so if Poser disappeared? Anyone counting on that to stay the same would be an absolute fool.


wolf359 posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 11:12 AM

" I'm hoping that SM now realizes that and will move to correct the situation of full dependence on third parties for content."

Fair Enough

but to be fair to SM they have not officially had any

"full dependence on third parties for content." since the  poser 4 propack.

Poser 5 shipped with Don & Judy

Poser 6 James & Jessie and so on.... 

it is the poser user base that never fully embraced

,and developed for, The Native poser Figures.



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primorge posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 11:24 AM

"replace firefly with a proper PBR and make the material node system more user friendly, Like  the elegant system of blender."

Agree with wolf on this one, it's always seemed incredibly strange to me that the Poser material system has been basically monopolized by one individual in it's proper use (guess who). In order to figure out ways to use the material room for certain tasks (ok, many) an individual is required to search around on forums, wade through egotistical nonsense and tantrums, or pursue the study of advanced math (?) The information is not officially documented and it seems to be in the hands of a select few who have little or no official affiliation with the software. Just as a smattering of smart-assery but I already have enough debt accrued getting my degree in art ("and what's the use in that?" ;/) a degree in math is asking a bit much to use the" hobbyist software" that "easily creates 3d character art and animation". Sadly this is the case with many of Posers more advanced features. As a closer to home example, how long was ERC a community hack before the developers decided to implement DP's (to much product fanfare I might add)? 


wolf359 posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 11:26 AM

"And, just how long do you think it would remain so if Poser disappeared?"

Daz studio Pro was Originally a $$ Paid $$ version.(Around $350 USD IIRC)

This  Price point did not require the Disappearance of poser.

Now yes, they wisely dropped that price back to Zero

But I fail to see what the existence of poser had to do with any of it.

Posers Continued existence is only relevant to the people who Exclusively use poser .

That, in the larger world, is a very small group demographic.



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Biscuits posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 11:48 AM

Congrats Nerd! So glad to see someone who feels the same passion for Poser as the users up there!

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ghostman posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 12:30 PM

Congratz Charles. :) I hope you have many Poser years ahead of you and that Poser will prosper in you're care. ;)

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Allstereo posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 12:36 PM

Hello Charles, 

Happy to see you at this position. Good luck

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EClark1894 posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 12:37 PM

If I were to offer any unsolicited Advice  on major new features  that would likley please the largest number of users,

It  would be to replace firefly with a proper PBR and make the material node system more user friendly, Like  the elegant system of blender.

Physically based GPU/CPU rendering is now in the hands of even the most Casual hobbiest's at ZERO ENTRY COSTS

( Blender,Cycles,Daz Iray ).

IMHO SM would be wise to get onboard.

I would wholeheartedly OPPOSE replacing Firefly as not everyone who uses Poser seeks a "realistic" looking render. I have a camera for that and it's faster. However, if SM would like to add a second renderer that was PBR so that people could choose which they'd like to use, I'd be down with that.




Miss B posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 12:49 PM

OK sir, I've now accomplished the triple play . . . HiveWire, RDNA and now here!!

CONGRATS CONGRATS CONGRATS!!!  As I've said before, they couldn't have picked a better person as Product Manager for Poser.  :-) 

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NanetteTredoux posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 1:06 PM

All the best, I am really happy with this development.

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EClark1894 posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 4:35 PM

Nerd, I'd like to see improvements to both the Cloth Room and hair room, namely a styling brush and actual hair strands that lets you curl and braid it. Also, some volume lighting and smoke or fog. I know you have a fog tool and I do have it, but it be nice to have Poser beable to implement it maybe with particles or some kind of atmosphere setting.




Glitterati3D posted Wed, 08 April 2015 at 5:24 PM

Nerd, I'd like to see improvements to both the Cloth Room and hair room, namely a styling brush and actual hair strands that lets you curl and braid it. Also, some volume lighting and smoke or fog. I know you have a fog tool and I do have it, but it be nice to have Poser beable to implement it maybe with particles or some kind of atmosphere setting.

Poser already has atmospheric lighting..........you just have to turn it on.  This light set not only has some great lights, but includes a wonderful, easily understood tutorial on how to use volumetric lighting.  http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/fiat-lux/58487/


quietrob posted Thu, 09 April 2015 at 4:21 PM

That is amazing!!  Way to go!!  Enjoy our awesome weather and help the Poser community to grow!



duanemoody posted Fri, 10 April 2015 at 5:43 PM

Nerd, could you explain why Library is a Flash/AIR applet when the rest of Poser's interface is native? My mouse tracking goes haywire when trying to scroll and I'm not comfortable trusting a browser plugin to handle this task without knowing why.


EClark1894 posted Fri, 10 April 2015 at 6:01 PM

Nerd, could you explain why Library is a Flash/AIR applet when the rest of Poser's interface is native? My mouse tracking goes haywire when trying to scroll and I'm not comfortable trusting a browser plugin to handle this task without knowing why.

I can't tell you why, but as it was Bagginsbill that designed the Library, perhaps you should ask him.




nerd posted Fri, 10 April 2015 at 8:07 PM Forum Moderator

Nerd, could you explain why Library is a Flash/AIR applet when the rest of Poser's interface is native? My mouse tracking goes haywire when trying to scroll and I'm not comfortable trusting a browser plugin to handle this task without knowing why.

That was before I came on board. I can tell you this, I'm on your side. I don't think it's wise to build anything out of adobe. Especially in California, one earthquake and it all comes crashing down.


duanemoody posted Sat, 11 April 2015 at 9:37 AM

That was before I came on board. I can tell you this, I'm on your side. I don't think it's wise to build anything out of adobe. Especially in California, one earthquake and it all comes crashing down.

I've found my people. But seriously, please have the programmers rewrite this as native code with no external dependencies. 


seachnasaigh posted Sat, 11 April 2015 at 9:44 AM

[quote Nerd]  I don't think it's wise to build anything out of adobe.  [/quote]

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WandW posted Sat, 11 April 2015 at 9:47 AM

I can't tell you why, but as it was Bagginsbill that designed the Library, perhaps you should ask him.

Ted was a contractor for SM.  As I recall, Steve said that this enabled the same Library code to be used across several SM applicaions, reducing development costs...

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seachnasaigh posted Sat, 11 April 2015 at 9:49 AM

I can't tell you why, but as it was Bagginsbill that designed the Library, perhaps you should ask him.

 Steve said that this enabled the same Library code to be used across several SM applicaions, reducing development costs...

Yep, that's what I recall also.

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nobodyinparticular posted Sat, 11 April 2015 at 12:54 PM

Nerd, could you explain why Library is a Flash/AIR applet when the rest of Poser's interface is native? My mouse tracking goes haywire when trying to scroll and I'm not comfortable trusting a browser plugin to handle this task without knowing why.

According of Bagginsbill at the time, it would have cost a great deal more to build the library from scratch, rather than using available software. Probably in both time and money.


EClark1894 posted Sat, 11 April 2015 at 5:04 PM

I can't tell you why, but as it was Bagginsbill that designed the Library, perhaps you should ask him.

Ted was a contractor for SM.  As I recall, Steve said that this enabled the same Library code to be used across several SM applicaions, reducing development costs...

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bagginsbill posted Sat, 11 April 2015 at 5:56 PM

For the record I wanted to write it in Python and leave it as part of the app, not an outside component. It was because of Anime Studio, written in Visual Basic, that we needed an outside component. Due to needing one solution for Windows and Mac it had to be Python or Flex. Python was deemed a loser because it was not going to get embedded in AS and not going to be able to use wx to do what we wanted, graphically. Any other solution such as native GUI in C++ was crazy talk - that would have been a solution that cost 10 times more. I would have been happy to take $250 K from SM but they did not think enough of you would pay $500 per copy to make up for it.

So - if you want a more expensive UI, feel free to ask them for it and send along your $500. I can write whatever they want, but they can't afford what you want, as far as I'm aware.

There is an unreleased replacement already in Poser 10. They have not told me why they didn't officially turn it on. You should ask nerd to actually talk to Uli about it and get back to you. 


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bagginsbill posted Sat, 11 April 2015 at 5:57 PM

FWIW I use the AIR version and have had uninterrupted use of the library UI forever.


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Kalypso posted Sun, 12 April 2015 at 12:10 PM Site Admin

I would wholeheartedly OPPOSE replacing Firefly as not everyone who uses Poser seeks a "realistic" looking render. I have a camera for that and it's faster. However, if SM would like to add a second renderer that was PBR so that people could choose which they'd like to use, I'd be down with that.  

That would be my choice too.   Keep firefly but also add another renderer as an option.  As mentioned before, there are already free alternatives so it's time Poser had one too, at least the Pro version.


wolf359 posted Mon, 13 April 2015 at 9:50 AM

"For the record I wanted to write it in Python and leave it as part 

of the app, not an outside component. It was because of Anime 

Studio, written in Visual Basic, that we needed an outside 

component. Due to needing one solution for Windows and Mac it 

had to be Python or Flex. Python was deemed a loser because it 

was not going to get embedded in AS and not going to be able to 

use wx to do what we wanted, graphically..................................

So - if you want a more expensive UI, feel free to ask them for it 

and send along your $500. I can write whatever they want, but 

they can't afford what you want, as far as I'm aware."

I am pleased to see this info posted.

I own Anime Studio 7 on OSX and was amazed at how much the 

poser pro 2014 library looked like the primitive one in AS.

I Don't Blame Bagginsbill for Clarifying his non culpability for 

this ridiculous throwback to the late 1990's ,that is the current 

Content library system.

I recently made changes to my Zone Alarm Firewall on my  windows 7 Machine .

Because I dont care for the "reportware" built into most software

that contacts external web servers without my permission,

I used the application control feature in ZA to Disallow

external communication for most of my Applications.

But if I do this for poser "pro" my content library wont load.

Not a show stopper Mind you, but just an example of how silly 

this external Adobe air dependent library nonsense actually is.

"Any other solution such as native GUI in C++ was crazy talk - 

that would have been a solution that cost 10 times more. I would 

have been happy to take $250 K from SM but they did not think 

enough of you would pay $500 per copy to make up for it."

WOW!!  Not to argue with people over what they charge for 

programming in C++

But this Commercial $60 USD plugin was written in C++

by ONE independent programmer.INTERPOSER

It effectively gives us C4D users Full Access to ANY standard 

poser runtime Library from which we load and use fully 

functional poser figures & Content within Cinema4D

It supports All poser formats.

 (excluding Native poser matroom shaders & python dependant content)

Now yes Maxon C4D is $3600 USD Professional level Program.

yet for $60 USD you have access to a poser content libraries with 

no dependence on flash or other Adobe products.

Daz Studio is a free program that gives me

access to a poser content libraries with no dependence on flash 

or other Adobe products. 

I am amazed that Smith micro does not deem it crucial to

provide with us this basic internal functionality that had existed for 

nearly a decade in poser.

Oh well.  

 



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Coleman posted Tue, 14 April 2015 at 10:13 PM

Congrats Nerd!! That's great for all us Poser users!!