Dawns Special Edition Looks Cool, Don't you think.

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Hi RorrKonn,

Yes! I have her in my cart over there and am getting ready to buy her. She does look very good!!

Same here. Dawn SR2 really made her useful and Special Edition looks even better. Can't wait to play with her.

Could not resist too. Just purchased her. She looks cute. :)

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I've downloaded her.  I'll play with her tomorrow, it's past my bedtime.

It is difficult to tell from the untextured Promos but there does seem to be an improvement in the expressions which would be something that could tempt me.  Other improvements do look good and I am glad that they are continuing to develop the figure.  I think this could end up in my runtime before the sale is over.

 

 

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She has a really nice updated texture that Virtual World created. I really like her.

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I just loaded her up today and did a quick render..she is very lovely!!

Thank you for posting this render, digitell.

Her elbow bends look extremely good, and from what I can see her shoulders/armpits are OK too.

However, her feet still suffer from what I noticed in the base figure as it came out:

Look at her toes - they are way to narrow compared to the foot (like as if they were scaled to 80% size). I do understand that it helps when putting on shoes to avoid poke through - but for barefoot renders it looks a bit off.

(yes, you may call me kind of a foot fetishist :D) But then, I do care for such details which can make the uncanny valley a bit deeper than it already is...

But that's not your fault. "Au contraire" - that's a bloody nice character you've created here!

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Hi PikesPit,

Thanks for the comment. I too think her bends look very good! This render is just straight out of the box, with some addition of clothes, but I didn't take a close look at her feet. Maybe for some folks she may not yet be perfect... However.. I think she will work very well with renders I myself will create. I am very pleased with her!

Okay, here is a Dawn SE quickie. No, she's not home alone. Somebody just told her she has 84 new morphs added to her face!

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Awesome picture, JVRenderer.

She seems to have disproportionately large irises. Not sure if it's texture, UV or model related, but I've seen it in all her promos, so I assume it's the latter. This particular texture set accentuates it with an extra band around the iris.

Here she is compared to an actual, you know, non-digital amazed person.

And she could also really use some hand cream.

Okay, here is a Dawn SE quickie. No, she's not home alone. Somebody just told her she has 84 new morphs added to her face!

The expression looks quite natural, I really like it and I am interested in the smile expressions which seem so difficult. I am not so keen on the eyes but then I guess you could say I have an eye fetish as they are so important to me.  If I am doing a portrait I want the eyes to have real reflections something I have achieved with V4 thanks to the work Bagginsbill put in and made public in a thread here.

Lots of eye textures for V4 also have a similar problem with an extra band around the eyes.  

Dawn appears to bend well but bending is not a real issue for me, it is the expressions and the eyes that stop me from changing from V4 to any other figure.  That is not to say that V4 is better but over the years I have learnt to work with her faults to get to a point where I can work with the figure.

 

 

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Dawn is growing on me for sure with this new SE....  Going to have to break down and get it her, I think. Sure she's got a couple of things that could be tweaked but she looks tons better than the original release, imho.

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Dawn is growing on me for sure with this new SE....  Going to have to break down and get it her, I think. Sure she's got a couple of things that could be tweaked but she looks tons better than the original release, imho.

With this release and the add-ons that have appeared Dawn is beginning to look like the figure I was expecting from day one.  The real plus now is that, with the figure still being developed and the market fragmenting thanks to the increasing number of Genesis figure and other figures, there is a good chance that support for Dawn will grow.   The introduction of this latest edition can only make increased support more likely. 

 

 

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Beautiful image JVRenderer!! She is just stunning!! :) I am not looking to replace V4 at all, I love V4 and always will!..but I do love having a variety of figures to choose from!

Okay, here is a Dawn SE quickie. No, she's not home alone. Somebody just told her she has 84 new morphs added to her face!

I'm guessing this is supposed to be obvious, but of curiosity, what renderer did you use here? Turned out really well.

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I'm guessing this is supposed to be obvious, but of curiosity, what renderer did you use here? Turned out really well.

JVR uses Octane.  I'm pretty sure we can safely assume this is an Octane render.

To be fair, I've had to decrease the size of the iris and even the eyes of every figure I've used so far...including the ones made by that other place ;). So having to adjust eyes is nothing new for me and not that big a deal. Glitterati3D is right...it's probably Octane that JV used. I know he uses it a lot.

Dawn's looks are definitely improving with this release. She looks much less "Dawn-ish" ;).

Laurie

I couldn't resist it in the end and put Dawn SE in my basket, then went back for more a hour or so later.  This is my my initial attempt at a new Dawn figure to work alongside my V4WM characters, at least for the time being.

A definite WIP so lots to do and the figure seems very different to work with, but fun.

Rendered in Poser 2014 - Firefly.

 

 

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 digitell Your render has that natasha "startrek" feel to it.

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@Hornet3D beautiful render! she looks lovely!

@RorrKonn-Not my intention actually..other than the clothes..Just a load and pose straight out of the box! :)

Just a quick note:  The starter pack contains dials to reduce / increase the size of the iris and the pupil. There is also a dial for a vertical pupil.

 

 

 This is an Iray render, natural make-up option.

 

Quick question on JVR's Dawn render. Is that the default texture or a different one?

The dust settled, thinking "what a fine home, at least for now" not realizing that doom would soon be coming in the form of a vacuum cleaner.

Nice render Virtual_World. Dawn's fingers look a bit odd. Is it me or does it look like some of the fingers are individually rotated (turned so the finger print is not lined up)?

The dust settled, thinking "what a fine home, at least for now" not realizing that doom would soon be coming in the form of a vacuum cleaner.

 May be, I think that I rotate some of them because the hair was intercepting them.

Ah, was curious. For a second it seemed like her hand was morphing into the other side of her hand...  :)

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Quick question on JVR's Dawn render. Is that the default texture or a different one?

That texture looks like the Default texture for Special Edition.

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Thank you for posting this render Virtual_World! It looks very good! Also thanks for posting the info on the Starter Pack Dials! :)

Finding your way around Dawn is difficult after so many years of V4, or it least it is for me.  Anyway I think I am getting there but I am sure there is so much more to this figure.  This is the next step in trying to develop a character to fit in with my collection based on V4 and I am having fun.

 

 

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@Hornet3D-yea I agree it is a challenge learning your way around Dawn's morphs and all. They are different than V4, and it is fun to explore and learn. It helps us grow as artists and also gives our brains a good work out! :)

Quick question on JVR's Dawn render. Is that the default texture or a different one?

That texture looks like the Default texture for Special Edition.

Thank you AetherDream

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Really lovely renders!

One thing that might help in using Dawn is that all HW morphs are in the body (as well as other parts they affect). 

Want to use a cheek morph?  With Dawn's BODY selected, simply go to Actor7_Cheeks1_Morphs in the Parameter tab.

I also strongly suggest that people actually read the ReadMe files :)  I put a LOT of information in there, including where morphs will show up once they're INJ in Poser or the product's installed in DS.

What's new in each version is listed as well as upgrade instructions...

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Really lovely renders!

One thing that might help in using Dawn is that all HW morphs are in the body (as well as other parts they affect). 

Want to use a cheek morph?  With Dawn's BODY selected, simply go to Actor7_Cheeks1_Morphs in the Parameter tab.

I also strongly suggest that people actually read the ReadMe files :)  I put a LOT of information in there, including where morphs will show up once they're INJ in Poser or the product's installed in DS.

What's new in each version is listed as well as upgrade instructions...

Thanks for the advice, I' ll take all I can get at the moment. I am used to reading the ReadMe files, usually to find out the names the items have gone into the runtime under. I think it is the mixture shaping, actors and the like and then the difference between morphs and controls.  Getting my head around all this is taking time but then I am not the quickest at learning new things. On the plus side I am learning a lot of new stuff,enjoying myself and the potential is clear to see.

 

 

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I bought her too and I don't even use dawn although I have dawn. I saw someone's morph of her (done with some dial spins) and it looked very nice so I bought her.  

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Quick question on JVR's Dawn render. Is that the default texture or a different one?

I used the default Dawn SE texture and it is rendered in Octane

Here is another (Same texture). I just played with the dials a little. I think Dawn still needs more facial and body dial. I was looking for a calf morph to justify the high heels pose, but could find any.

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Hi !

Just a quick question, sorry for the puritans, is the new Dawn a "realistic" character or just a puppet who can have baby ?

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Hi !

Just a quick question, sorry for the puritans, is the new Dawn a "realistic" character or just a puppet who can have baby ?

Not trying to be difficult, but I guess the answer would depend on your definition of 'realistic'.  I am in the middle of trying to make the a character that is 'believable' with a lot still to do but this is the progress so far.   I am in the ball park of where I want to be with the face but I am having some problems with the body.  I am used to using V4 which has a separate map for the nipples but with Dawn they are part of the torso.  This being the case if I increase the bump of displacement map I affect not only the nipple but the rest of the torso.  I have limited skills but I have used Paint Shop Pro to modify the torso map to get what I am looking for.  I am sure there are better ways of doing it but there you are.

Keep in mind this rendered in Firefly and is a WIP but it might begin to answer your question.

 

 

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Hi Anthanasius,

I assume you're asking if Dawn has realistic genitalia and the answer is 'no'.  Hivewire has made it clear that they will not be selling those morphs but that doesn't exclude other vendors creating them and selling them elsewhere.  Of course you'll find those morphs at Renderotica but I don't know how much detail the base mesh has to allow for the creation of very realistic morphing of genitals. 

 

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There is a free "realistic" morph at ShareCG. This is my first self-made character using Dawn SE.

Hi Anthanasius,

I assume you're asking if Dawn has realistic genitalia and the answer is 'no'.  Hivewire has made it clear that they will not be selling those morphs but that doesn't exclude other vendors creating them and selling them elsewhere.  Of course you'll find those morphs at Renderotica but I don't know how much detail the base mesh has to allow for the creation of very realistic morphing of genitals. 

 

Totally missed that one but then I am never at my best in the early hours of the morning.  Make note to self, do not respond the threads when you should be in bed.

 

 

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Yeah, the new Dawn looks good. Having issues finding the iris size dial if there is such dial. can't find one for nipples either....guess that one doesn't exist based on the "no genitals" policy of HW.

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Yeah, the new Dawn looks good. Having issues finding the iris size dial if there is such dial. can't find one for nipples either....guess that one doesn't exist based on the "no genitals" policy of HW.

Great Render.  The 'EyeIrisSize' dial is under the body - Shaping - Morphs - eyes.  Not sure on the nipples, I have only been playing for a while, but it would be strange not to be there as there is Actor - Body - Chest that gives all the breast control, unless that came form a third party pack.  I used the 'Dawn Breast Morphs' from Xameva and Meipe here at Rendo.

 

 

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thanks for the help, Hornet! found the iris controls.

I'm a little baffled by the limits imposed on dial twists. even cranking up a limit in the editor does nothing for a particular morph (nails length for example.) Also, they seem to have modeled in the geometry for nipples but then no morphs??????? I'll have to buy a morph pack now for nipples? I still think she looks great and I'm gonna start using her finally.

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When I saw the new merchant resource from 3Dream for Dawn it had to go straight into my runtime. It has impacted the WIP for my Dawn character so this is the latest state of play - expression is the default hence the reason it is a bit bland.

 

 

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No offense hornet3d, but she looks really....dry. Definitely in need of some moisturizer ;). Not sure what's going on on her chest but it doesn't look right to my eye - like it's over-burned.

Laurie

No offence taken, they are both issues that I need to address exaggerated by the fact that the changes to the forum seem to want to assign my image to a full page.

 

 

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Please tell me that you didn't blow $30 on that texture pack!

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What's wrong with it? I like it..

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"Please tell me that you didn't blow $30 on that texture pack!"

Strange request but OK I won't tell you, but clearly I did, one way or another. Each to their own but my skill set is far more limited than my budget and I am having fun playing with the character. As far as I am concerned, once you have the basics, money has no value unless you spend on something that gives you pleasure and we all get our pleasures in different ways.

Mind you, if you want to create a better texture pack, along the same lines, for free or a similar price I am interested. Sadly there are not too many mature characters in the Poser world for V4 let alone for Dawn.

 

 

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Nothing wrong with the texture but that is the most I've ever seen one go for on Rendo. I bought Texture Transformer when it was on sale for $30 and just convert V4 maps that I have already. It's a pain to use but it does a decent job.

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@ghostship2

I have to admit I did bulk at the price and compared with others it is also expensive. Then I thought about it a little, or I may have just been justifying the price to myself, but, for a start, this is for Dawn and I doubt it will sell in the numbers if it had been produced for V4 or Genesis. I like to think that it would but I don't think we are at that point with Dawn.

Secondly I want to use my Dawn character alongside my V4 characters this gave me a problem in that I only have two mature looking textures, one mid age one old, for V4 so I could convert them but then both my V4 and Dawn character would have the same texture. As the mature textures have some defined skin characteristics I was of the impression it would be very apparent that the textures were the same.

There was also a community aspect to the purchase as well, in the sense that I don't think $29.99 is really a fair reflection of the work that has been put into something like this it is just we have become used to some very low prices. Lastly I really wanted to support a vendor that had stepped out of the norm to support a non V4/Genesis figure.

All of that does not detract from what you have stated, it is expensive, but it does, I hope, explain to some degree my reasons for buying.

 

 

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I definitely have to agree that 30 is not too much to ask for everything that 3Dream puts into his resources and the quality that you get. I have purchased several of his texture resources for characters and I have never felt like I spent too much for the amount of use that I get out of them.

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Well I am pleased I purchased the texture set and I think I am getting much closer to my goal. This is my WIP as of now, rendered in Poser 2014 and the only post work is the added dark background.

 

 

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"I'm a little baffled by the limits imposed on dial twists. even cranking up a limit in the editor does nothing for a particular morph (nails length for example.) Also, they seem to have modeled in the geometry for nipples but then no morphs??????? I'll have to buy a morph pack now for nipples? I still think she looks great and I'm gonna start using her finally."

http://www.sharecg.com/v/71101/view/11/Poser/Nipple-Morph-for-Dawn-Poser-DS4

First morph I did for Dawn :D

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Hey Bill.
Thanks for the link. :)

I don't claim to know everything. It's just that things that have made sense with previous figures aren't working on this one. I don't use a modeler, I can't make stuff or do morphs. I've downloaded Blender but It's interface is pretty foreign to me. I just think morphs should be able to be taken off to wacky places without safety limits imposed.

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Hornet:
Looks great!
God I hope people don't think I'm being a dick for my money comment. I was just shocked at the price of that texture. I do agree that if it was a more popular figure that the price would be much lower. Hope I didn't offend anyone.

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YVW :D
Actually, for morphs, I normally use magnets and/or the morph bursh, I only use a modeler for creating new items.
whenever possible, I use poser to modify existing meshes.

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@ghostship2

Quote - "Hornet:
Looks great!
God I hope people don't think I'm being a dick for my money comment. I was just shocked at the price of that texture. I do agree that if it was a more popular figure that the price would be much lower. Hope I didn't offend anyone"

Well you did not offend me in any shape or form, if I had been offended I would have said something along the lines of 'none of your business'. I didn't because I knew the point you were making. I saw the promos and loved the textures and, as I was playing with Dawn SE it was something I could use immediately. Only after that did I look at the price, at which point I moved on as it was just too expensive. It was only later that I began to think about it, as I said before, I may just have been justifying the price to myself. In the end I did buy it and, for me it has worked well. I would not be so pleased if it had not have worked out. If it had been from a vendor I did not know I may not have been so keen but I have a few of 3Dream's products and they are always first class. I notice there is now a master resource for Roxie, so credit to 3Dream for supporting some of the less popular figures, I hope he does well on it.

Thanks for you comment by the way, it is easy to get to close to something and not be able to see clearly but I have had some positive feedback so I guess I got something right.

 

 

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@ghostship2-- I was not offended, and I hope you were not offended by what I said-- in my comment I was only pointing out the quality of 3Dream's work in relation to the price. There are certainly some products that I would never think of spending that kind of money for, but I am definitely okay paying artists a fair price for high quality work. Of course everyone has to judge for themselves the kind of money they are willing to spend on a product.

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I went back and played with Dawn a little (I was in the middle of a big project when I first downloaded her so ... she ended up on the back file for well ever) I have discovered some more versatility than I originally thought. I did tweek the teeth texture so they didn't look like she'd painted phosphorous on them ;)

I think she is a lovely figure. This is a simple test render with a skydome IDL and a "sun" light.
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Well I am pleased I purchased the texture set and I think I am getting much closer to my goal. This is my WIP as of now, rendered in Poser 2014 and the only post work is the added dark background.

Do you really need the high-end Photoshop in the product description, or could I use it in Elements 10?

"I'm a little baffled by the limits imposed on dial twists. even cranking up a limit in the editor does nothing for a particular morph (nails length for example.) Also, they seem to have modeled in the geometry for nipples but then no morphs??????? I'll have to buy a morph pack now for nipples? I still think she looks great and I'm gonna start using her finally."

I'm actually disappointed that the morphs are so conservative. Especially since Dawn always seemed to have potential as an illustrative character. I'd like to morph Dawn and Dusk as more of a charicature. I hope the Hive loosens that up in the future. It does leave an opportunity for a vender to do Capsces type morphs though.

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Quote - "Well I am pleased I purchased the texture set and I think I am getting much closer to my goal. This is my WIP as of now, rendered in Poser 2014 and the only post work is the added dark background.

Do you really need the high-end Photoshop in the product description, or could I use it in Elements 10?"

Reply - I am not surprised by your question it did make me think twice before buying but when I checked the textures they are all in .jpg format so they should load into any image manipulation program. I used the textures in Paint Shop Pro without any issues so I am not sure why the requirements do not state 'any program that supports .jpg files.' If I am missing something I am happy for someone to correct me but I had no issues at all.

 

 

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Last time i looked, Dawn & Dusk didn't have much of a wardrobe. That surprised me because Dawn has been around for 2 years.

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"Last time i looked, Dawn & Dusk didn't have much of a wardrobe. That surprised me because Dawn has been around for 2 years."

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I think that is a fair comment and some of that may well be due to the fact there was some disappointment in the figure when it was launched. I was certainly one of the people disappointed and while I downloaded the figure I quickly returned to V4. Lots of things have happened in two years, for a start Dawn is not only still around but, in my opinion, has moved on. During that time the has been the launch of Genesis 3 which, so far cannot be used fully in Poser and the earlier Genesis figures need DSON to work. Some have got it to work well others have not or have just not bothered.

Those that have Poser 2014 can use the the fitting room to convert V4 content with some success while others can convert using CrossDresser or Wardrobe Wizard. My limited use of CrossDresser suggests some content converts well while others not so well.

Hivewiire3D have a number of dynamic outfits for Dawn as do RDNA. What there is seems to be of a high quality such as the ranger outfit from Xurge3D. Of course none of this competes with V4 but then nothing else does either. You can look at it is two ways, there is little content after two years or, after two years the figure is still around and being supported. I personally think the Special Edition is a dream to use and the expressions are certainly a lot stronger than V4. Dawn SE may well help conjure up more support but making predictions of where anything is going in the 3D art world has become far more complex in the last few years.

 

 

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I just released this freebie for Dawn a couple weeks ago:

https://www.dana-anderson.com/FreeProductVisitor.aspx?pid=21 (registration is required)

Thanks for that, sorry I had brain fade, of course I did not mention the freebies.

 

 

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Honestly, since SR2, I think Dawn is one of the easiest weight map figures to rig clothing for. The freebie above, I rigged when Dawn first came out and it was such a nightmare, I just trashbinned it.

With the advent of SR2, I tried the outfit again and it was a joy to rig.

The sitting position here? No movement bones, no morphs required. The skirt follows the pose with no extra posing required.

I don't have Dawn but I'm liking some of these renders and seeing such makes me more interested in Dawn as a "realism" alternative to V4. Also, in most cases, refreshing to see some renders of expressions on Poser women that don't look like grinning carnivorous zombie sex dolls.
Edit_ also, 3dream has traditionally been a supporter of many more less mainstream poser figures, as evidenced by his templates resources and hair fits work. I recall years ago him downloading a freebie I made for a very obscure Japanese figure and thanking me in comments. Very cool dude and a favorite content creator, any of his products are very well made.

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The real big advantage of Dawn over V4 as far as I can see is how easily it is to produce natural looking expressions. Just how much this is important to user will vary but I would think, while bending would be important to those that do 'pin up' type renders, having a good expression would also be of value. The morphs available around the
forehead are extensive and add to confused or sorrowful expressions but even the ability to generate a smile that does not look like that of a crazed killer is a real benefit.

 

 

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Last time i looked, Dawn & Dusk didn't have much of a wardrobe. That surprised me because Dawn has been around for 2 years.

2 issues. 1. Vendors were expecting V4 level of sales from a brand new figure, which was a tad bit unrealistic. Most of them made 1 product, it didn't sell as well as they had hoped, so they decided to pass on the figure. 2. Dawn didn't ship with much in the way of morphs when she launched. Once the morph packs were made available, she was as versatile as V4. Same size, and same weird body proportions (that everyone apparently likes) as V4, but can take advantage of Poser 9+ tech.

With Poser, clothing has been decoupled from figures for a while now - If you don't have Poser Pro 2014, you still have Wardrobe Wizard built into Poser - Pick up the V4 & Dawn modules over at PhilC.net & have at it.

If you have Poser 2014, Pick up Lyrra's Fitting Room Magnets for Dawn. You can convert V4's clothing to Dawn in less than 30 seconds.

I like what you can do with the Dawn SE textures.

I think she has lots of potential.

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Thanks for pointing me at the Fitting Room Magnets for Dawn, I downloaded them a couple of hours ago, not only do they work well but you can get really fast using them. As I was using V4WM I had to run any new content through Outfitter so using the magnets instead is no real hardship.

 

 

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I love the render, boy it even made me feel hot.

 

 

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I have only just started to experiment with the Dawn expressions but an open smile was always something I avoided in the past.

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/?image_id=2639443

 

 

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Can't quite put my finger on it but for some reason Dawn's expressions seem really good to me. Her teeth just seem too far forward to me though and maybe a bit large so I use one of the morph packs to adjust. There are quite a few freebies as well. People that like Dawn have been quite productive in creating clothes for her. I'm also pleased to see a lot of dynamic and combination Dawn/V4 items.

edit: the crazed killer expression is on the bottom right, lol.

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do the morph packs made for original Dawn work with SE? I have not used even the free one, but what I have seen here looks very good, especially the expressions.

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Yes, everything works with Dawn SE just fine.

Glitterati3D posted at 11:39AM Sat, 05 September 2015 - #4226634

Yes, everything works with Dawn SE just fine.

tHANKS :)

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Wow! I am seeing some nice Dawn faces here. :)

My main issue with Dawn (original version) has been that there has been so very few unique characters created for her. For some reason, her face has been looking very similar whatever people do, especially around the eyes. This was probably due to the lack of face morphs. So I think that has been a barrier for people creating characters.

That is not at all what I see here! Much improvement. I think we might be seeing new Dawn character packs popping up all over the place soon...

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Frequency posted at 8:51AM Thu, 10 September 2015 - #4227315

Wow! I am seeing some nice Dawn faces here. :)

My main issue with Dawn (original version) has been that there has been so very few unique characters created for her. For some reason, her face has been looking very similar whatever people do, especially around the eyes. This was probably due to the lack of face morphs. So I think that has been a barrier for people creating characters.

That is not at all what I see here! Much improvement. I think we might be seeing new Dawn character packs popping up all over the place soon...

I agree with your comment on the original Dawn which I why I am so surprised with Dawn as the figure is today. If you wander over to Hivewire3D and look at the thread for Dawn renders you will an array of characters that look very different from the default. Dawn can be made into some very different looking characters even if you are only into dial spinning like me.

This is my Dawn character (on the right) and my V4 character in the same image. The first Dawn + V4 I have done

 

 

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4 Dawn clones for Daz Studio, so Dawn can use the cloth for V4, Genesis, G2F and G3F Very accurate using Wrax X program. After conversion they can easily be exported to Poser, fully functional.

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As I got burned in the initial release by that totally useless figure, I don't really care what they do with her now, once burned, twice learned. No more money coming from me for anything Dawn or dusk, or version x.x.x.x whatever.

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PrecisionXXX posted at 9:30PM Fri, 11 September 2015 - #4227795

As I got burned in the initial release by that totally useless figure, I don't really care what they do with her now, once burned, twice learned. No more money coming from me for anything Dawn or dusk, or version x.x.x.x whatever.

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Not a problem, while I didn't feel I got burned I was disappointed with Dawn on release, now, well like a lot of things in life, it has moved on. People choose where they want to walk and go in different ways. All I am doing is putting up sign posts, no one is under any pressure to take the same road as me.

Have fun.

 

 

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Some of the dynamic stuff looks great on Dawn SE e.g. this hoodie set by Lully

Cheers

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Jonrea posted at 3:39PM Tue, 15 September 2015 - #4228441

Some of the dynamic stuff looks great on Dawn SE e.g. this hoodie set by Lully

Cheers

Jon

Lovely render.

Lully creates some great dynamic clothing and at some stunning prices most, if not all, include a training manual for those using dynamics for the first time It was one of Lully's outfits that got me interested in dynamic clothing again. I have a lot of the Lully clothing already and anything I haven't already got is in my wish list. There is more on the way I gather so Dawn will have now shortage of dynamic clothing.

 

 

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