Thought I'd get in before the flames to let you know I rather like the new look for the site! Haven't had a play with all the bits yet but so far it looks good.
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Hi, I just logged on and had to wonder if I was at the right site. Then I realized it was yet another of those changes for the better. Yeah right! It is fairly confusing for an old guy like me. Where are the 'home' and 'daily deals' tags on the top of the page? As for the Napa ads they belong on a auto parts page. Being a Street Rodder, I have no objection to car ads, just not in a 3D modeling site. Well, I guess I said enough for now, time to go suffer in silence.

Who was the crackhead web designer that thought an asymmetrical layout was a good idea? I can't quickly flip through lines of content if the content isn't symmetrical.

Idiot web designer - my time is valuable - whether you like it or not.

The vendors are going to pay for this stupidity.

but... why do I have an "ad portal"... I'm a normal user.... I don't run adverts..
but looks cleaner in the forums...
OH and the editor bug is gone! enter just does one line!!
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only been 5 years...

STILL can't drag text to rearrange it in the editor window - while you drag you get sort of "Drop your image here" icon popping up and your text editing is ignored. They were too busy fiddling with important stuff like avatar shapes again. Un-____ing-Believable.

The new layout is terrible. I have so many pixels but the tiniest fraction of them are devoted to content. It's the worst, ever.

Remove the fixed header and footer - PLEASE. I have a 27" monitor and I have to scroll CONSTANTLY now.

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okaaay. just seen the front page.
designer on drugs/caffeine over dose? man that is .... a mess. no clear areas of definition. badly laid out. bad for anyone visually impaired / dyslexic (does the US not have rules on accessibility? are you even attempting to follow any?)
also agreeing with the bottom bar.. it's really not needed...!

and why the huge white bar with just forum stats, mark all read and start thread in? hello waste of space...

and the Wiki is back?....the wiki that was removed?
ah. no. it's not.
it's a how to use Rendo page. way to raise hopes and smash them...

Ugh............all thunbnails in Fractal Forums are gone, can not search in Fractal Forums..............this layout is terrible, confusing, does seem to be faster though.....how do you change Album Covers?

Remember...No matter where you go there you are

Agreed about the header and footer. They need to go asap.

Well, it's ironic that you can't scroll to the end of these threads even though you get that pointless auto page scroll everywhere else on this site!...

The galleries are a jumbled mess. It is very hard to see anything. I know you are going for a responsive design, but this complete lacks usability.

Thank you for all your thoughts guys... we are listening and will be making changes to different areas.

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The metro bland style sucks overripe tomatoes from a can! But I am glad you didn't go for the ultra bland white with eggwhite graphic style...It's bad enough we have a bland generic looking OS, do we really need everything to default to flat rectangles with no human expression whatsoever....On a artist website no less!

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Christ! I cannot even select the genre of Gallery/free stuff that I want to see!

The whole ufkcin' site is nothing but a stinkin' ever-scrolling mass of oversized thumbnails! All custom art design that made the site attractive has been obliterated with bland rectangles, I ufkcin detest this bloody metro "art" style, I cannot wait until this office manager art style finally ends!

I'm speechless.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"If your pictures aren't good enough, you're not close enough."  ...  Robert Capa

I am all for responsive web page design, but my god, this look like the site is in the middle of an epileptic fit. It is hard on the head trying to follow the bouncing items. It doesn't matter where I go in this site, everything is in different sized containers, come on!
The idea was great, it is really too bad the delivery lacked polish. The headers and footers could be scaled down a bit to be sure, I don't think anyone would be bothered by them if they were half the height.
Please, make the containers a consistent size so us poor humans have a chance to look around without getting dizzy.
Just because Bootstrap and CSS make it possible to resize every living thing on the site dynamically, it doesn't mean that you should!
Pick a size and stick to it, PLEASE!

Nice - very smooth and much better when I use my smartphone browser ! Avatar doesn't look so cool any more, but I don't plan on fixing that. ONE QUESTION: how does Marketplace get Tailored and Recommended products for me ? I am curious about the personalisation.

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You can use your phone? Having major issues here using mine. Site certificate rejected by chrome, slow slow loading (on 4g or wifi), and tiny use able area due to fixed items like the top and bottom bars and that huge white bar that says "forums"

Bring back the search feature, please.

I want to see a poem I posted four or five years ago. In the past, I would do a search and ask for my own gallery, in a date range, in only the Writer's Gallery, with no genre. Poof. I get only what I want to see.

There are nearly 2700 entries in my gallery. Did I already use the title I'm thinking of? In the past, I could do a search in only my gallery and find out if I'd used a specific word in a title or if my seemingly original thought was actually original! I don't give a crap if somebody else has used the word, I only care if I'm repeating myself.

I was talking on the telephone to another Renderosity artist the other day, and we were talking about artistic influence. I mentioned to him that my photography had been strongly influenced by a series of four or five photographs that someone had posted in 2007 or 2008, and I remembered what the subject was. We were able to find the photographs by doing a search in that artist's gallery, in a limited time frame, with a couple of key words. Poof. There they were.

It's my birthday, and I know people are posting images for me. Not everybody puts my name in the title, not everybody posts in the galleries I check every day. I do a search for all of Renderosity for the past week, with my name and user name as key words. There you go. Now I haven't missed anyone's work who was kind enough to think of me and make a piece of art for my birthday.

I want to make a new album with only pictures of ... oh ... Mount Rainier or something. I know when I've posted pictures of Mount Rainier in the past, I've used a few key words. In order to populate the album, I would do a search with those key words, and up would come the images I knew were scattered throughout my gallery of the mountain. Now I can edit those images and add them to my album. Again, I don't care if anyone else has posted pictures of Mount Rainier. I know there are oodles of images on Renderosity of that particular mountain. I just want to make an album, not review other people's images.

I probably used the old search feature once or twice a week, every week, every month, every year, since 2007.

I can't scroll through page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page in my gallery hoping to find what I'm looking for. I don't have the time, and we don't live in a city where we have endless WiFi. We pay for the data we use. I don't want to have to decide if what I want to see is worth so many kb or mb of data, and if it's worth the extra $15 it's going to cost me to use all that data, loading and reloading all those pages.

In order to do a test, I scrolled down three or four pages, clicked something, backed up, hoping that I would be back where I was. You know ... I think after scrolling and waiting and loading all those pages, I may have found what I wanted, but it also may be on the next page. So I check an image. Back up. Am I where I left off? No, I am not. I'm at the bottom of page 1 again. If I had finally found what I was looking for on page 24, I don't think I'm going to have the patience (or the data) to re-load all that work in order to look at the next thing that might be what I wanted to check.

Just in case you seriously thought nobody would miss it ...

Tara

"If your pictures aren't good enough, you're not close enough."  ...  Robert Capa

@4220069
Total agreement here.
Thank you.

The new site is horror and the new gallery also, I don`t like the new formats for uploads and I will not fix my renders just for this gallery. So for a time or maybe forever I will not upload new images here at renderosity. For everyone who likes my gallery and renders and for everyone loving my character Dixie. You can thank Renderosity for that. We will leave for a time or maybe forever. Goodbye.

@4220016

Who the hell had the stupid idea of the new style of the site and who the hell had the stupid idea to reduce size for uploads at the gallery?

@4219961 well said!!

@4220089 yeah i wonder!!maybe some guys need a Lobotomy muahahahahahah.

The Galleries are beyond horrendous!!!!!! First off my bookmark for the Poser Gallery no longer worked. I had to make a new one. Then I was met with a jumble of thumbnails. Thumbnails are supposed to be a consistant size so that they make neat rows of images. And there are NO page numbers! It's that idiotic thing as I get on an image search at Yahoo, you scroll to the bottom of the page and more loads up. There needs to be page numbers! Dang it, stop designing things for millenials and their stupid smart phones.

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High quality renders, Iray, HD, for what? For small images? For small images/renders we dont need HD or high quality or iray or other stuff like this. We dont need high quality textures and figures, we don`t need high quality clothes and stuff like this. The new upload restrictions relating to image size are a knee-Shot

@4220114

I totally agree with you the new gallery style and upload restrictions are a knee-shoot. We render with PCs or laptops and we make renders for PCs and laptops and not for smart phones.

I have a simple question. For what should we buy high quality figures, clothes, hair and other stuff at your store Renderosity? For small smart phone and tablet suitable images/renders? If I have to reduce the size of my renders just making them suitable for your gallery I do not need HQ or HD renders and no HQ or HD stuff from your store. Your gallery restrictions are a huge step backwards and torpedoed the advancement of 3D technology in general.

My feedback here is focused on the marketplace.

I have to say, like most responders here, I'm also not a fan of this site redesign. This is not simple dislike of all change; there are specific changes here that I do feel are for the worse. Specific feedback follows.

The large headers and footers are taking up too much space. The very top, dark bar of the header, with the search box, general links and dropdowns isn't bad, because those things are arguably worth having on-screen full-time. Here in the forums, the white bar directly underneath the dark one is quite wasteful, as it contains information that I don't think anyone needs to see full time. On the marketplace, the links in the white bar are useful. However, each of these two parts of the header is too tall. Each section of the header could stand to be close to half its current height. Reducing the height (thickness) of these headers would yield back useful viewing space to the product pages.

The footer with nothing but social media links is something incredibly wasteful of vertical space. These things simply should not be on screen full time. Really, get rid of that. Put them in a static, non-floating element on pages, or revert back to them being simple icons tucked into another element. (The previous site had these on the same non-floating header bar as the account links, meaning they took no extra vertical space.) You have empty space on the left side of the pages - while I find such things on other sites annoying, if you really want these links to stay on screen, make them a vertical bar of icons and let them float over there.

The vertical sidebar on the right side of marketplace product pages is very large and busy. I don't think the info there is bad. Having the product price near the top of the product page is nice, for example. However, the sidebar is much too wide. Comparing it with saved versions of marketplace pages, it's around 1.3 times as wide as the static sidebar was on the previous version of the site. It is also positioned further to the left, with larger margin on the right-hand side compared to the old site. Again, both changes here take away product viewing space.

As an aside, you seem to have lost a lot of promotional content in the new sidebar. Current sale items, "what's hot", etc. were all links that I frequently clicked on, and I don't see equivalents in the current site. If those aren't coming back, I think you're missing out on cross-sell opportunities the old site gave you.

In summary, users come to the marketplace to look at the product images and descriptions, and these things need to be more dominant than the current site design permits. We do need the info in the right-hand sidebar, but it doesn't need to be so large and prominent. We do not need to be constantly provided with social media links. The site navigation links at the top are nice to have floating, but are too tall.

Not everything is bad. the new forum seems to be good but the gallery really sucks

I come to the Renderosity site (soon to be 'I used to come') for one thing - looking in the marketplace and the freestuff either to see what's new or to look for something specific I need. I do it on a laptop, not a phone. I don't 'do' social media, 'follow' or 'like' things. I don't come for the galleries or the forums or for 'feeds'. Nothing in this respect has changed for me since i first started coming here daily in 2004. I am simply concerned with the marketplace and freestuff, being able to quickly look through new stuff, and search for particular products. I don't care what you do with the rest of the site.

The new marketplace is appalling. I can see only One row of THREE new items at a time on screen, which means endless scrolling. Every other Poser/DS site I can see at least 6, usually 8, on one as many as 12 items at a time. Here only 3. I'm disabled, using the computer causes mounting pain, and seeing new marketplace items, freestuff items and search results only THREE at a time, with much extra scrolling means more time, more movement to scroll and much more pain as a result.

This happened with the last site design, and I said the same thing, and that I would not be buying any more unless/until there was a change that allowed seeing more products at a time when using a computer rather than a phone. And that's what happened: I stopped buying anything, only visiting occasionally to see if there had been a change. Evenetually, after a couple of months, things were changed so product thumbs would resize and restored the ability to see at least a couple of lines of four items each at a time in the not-quite-fullscreen browser window size I use and I became a customer again.

Here we go again. through the same thing again.

As of now I have stopped being a customer again. i will check in to the market place occasionally to see if I can see a reasonable number of products at once in my browser window. If things have changed so I can, I will return as a customer. If not I won't. As computer use like typing costs me even more pain than last time, I will not keep posting nagging posts about it like I did last time. Restore a reasonable marketplace view of a minimum of 6 products per window in my browser, or not. get me back as a customer, or not. As of now, I am no longer a customer, after 11 years of purchasing here.

Same to me, I do not visit the site via phone or tablet, I visit the site via PC or labtop and with a huge monitor, I do not need a phone or a tablet suitable site. Neither for the store nor the gallery. If you want do a gallery suitable for phones or tablets, create an extra site and downsize the renders by yourself renderosity but do not force us to downsize / resize our renders or just to do renders suitable for your gallery.
Who does renders on phones or tablets? I think most of us does render via PC or laptop, so why do you have changed the gallery?

Well the store seems okay, not have a closer look at it right now because I am so angry about the new gallery, the forum seems to be okay, but your gallery is a kick in the ass for those of us who want to upload renders.

Love the fact you think it's all for a tablet or phone.
Just try using this layout on them. You won't get far (maybe it'd just cos I'm on Android and this is designed for Apple....)

don`t really know, but if it is not designed for phones or tablets, then this is new design is more stupid than I thought it is already.

But it is likely with DAZ and their software and store. They also waste more attention on how their store and also their software interface looks like than how practical and helpful it is.

It`s all about the show here at Renderosity and also at DAZ and with the new design of their software. They waste so much space for nothing and your workspace gets smaller and smaller everytime they do update their software and so it seems to be here at renderosity and their store and gallery.

The whole site definitely looks mobile to me. For an art site, I find that silly beyond belief - when I feel like browsing the galleries, I sure don't do it on a phone or tablet. LOL. I don't download stuff to my phone or tablet and I don't do any work on a phone or tablet. I visit chat on a PC.... You don't know your own customer base??

I think I'm probably the rule rather than the exception in this ;).

For what it's worth, I decimated your new site design with AdBlock (bless it). I blocked your trackers with Ghostery. The two bars I hate are gone, and the entire home page (to me) is blank except for the very top nav bar. You're welcome.

One more thing: I counted SIXTY ads on the home page. Ridiculous. I realize you're out to make money but that's just ridiculous. If you had maybe 12 I'd have left them. If you had a home page that I didn't have to scroll I'd have left it alone. As it is tho...

Laurie

That's the whole problem in a nutshell, Rendo thinks everyone uses a Tablet, Ipad or Smartphone, they forgot Real Digital Artists use Real Computers not toys.

Remember...No matter where you go there you are

it certainly has not been designed for an iPhone. It is absolutely unusable on my phone.

yesterday when I posted to this thread, I very carefully clicked the box requesting notification when someone replies. Notice how many replies there have been since I last posted here. If I got any notifications, I have absolutely no idea where they are. Not in the new activity feed and not in notifications.

"If your pictures aren't good enough, you're not close enough."  ...  Robert Capa

I don't even know where to start with all the bugs that need reporting... how was this even released to the public?

Many times I don't even receive anything back from the website... frequently getting the following error from Chrome:
"No data received ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE Unable to load the webpage because the server sent no data."

And when I do get it to load, it's hard to find anything. I discover more broken features than working ones.

The new layout is by far one of the worst responsive design layouts I've ever encountered -- progressive impediment at it's worst. The grid system is severely busted when viewing product thumbnails at different browser window widths.

I nearly had a seizure when scrolling down on a mac trackpad -- the whole page ping-ponged up and down so rapidly at the bottom of the page, it actually gave me a feeling of motion sickness.

Just a follow up to my earlier post with feedback on the layout. Related to my comments about the right-hand sidebar on product pages, the site now has a fixed-size width. On my system, this makes margins on both left and right sides of the site (everywhere, not just on product pages) needlessly wide. The old site would flow content to a very narrow margin on my PC browser - almost right to the edge of the browser window.

That the new margins are perfect on my tablet (in landscape mode) does lend support to the idea that the site was, at least partially, optimized for mobile viewing. I agree with others who are questioning whether that makes sense when the site's primary audience is folks who render in Poser or DAZ. We're not your typical content consumers. We have (usually powerful) PCs and laptops. We're not doing this on mobile. Sure, I look at Rendo on my tablet and even my phone sometimes. The old site worked just fine.

In contrast, all the complaints I have with the new product pages carry over to viewing on my tablet. Viewing it on my phone? That's a complete mess. The sidebar flows to the bottom of the page, and the margins are too wide, leaving the main content floating in a sea of blank space.

While not as vehemently annoyed by it as some posters here, I agree that reducing the number of products-per-line shown on things like the "What's New" page was ... suboptimal. Especially with all the changes I've mentioned that reduce vertical viewing area for the main content of pages, making the number of items-per-line smaller is really pretty annoying.

@4220114
Thank you, this site is for PC/Mac/Linux NOT Android iPhone or a stinkin' tablet, number one reason, you cannot load, setup scenes, render, composite and upload your images off of your ufkcin' phone! This wretched bland office manager inspired flat rectangle-style wouldn't be so bad, except all proper functionality in navigating the site has been completely nullified as the user has absolutely no/none/nada/zip control over how they navigate, or customize the site not only to their liking, but their special accommodation due to disability, age, and sight.

Instead they're met with over-sized thumbnails strewn over the screen, the pages cannot be accessed as it's now an idiotic ever-scrolling mess that makes pinpointing a specific page's content impossible, even the drop-down list for categories in every dept has been removed and instead all genres are smashed together on a separate page forcing one to load yet another useless page!

This metro-style is the antithesis of creativity and customization, and exhibiting this wretchedly bland style on a website that is all about creativity and customization, is entirely defeating the site's purpose!

ok guys this ain't designed for a fecking phone!

it does NOT WORK ON A PHONE OR TABLET EITHER
so lets stop yelling about that and concentrate on yelling at the owners to fix the place.

@Khai-J-Bach Why I cannot quote a response in a forum in 2015 I'll never know.....

Anyway the reason I mention phones is because that is where this metro style was designed for, and with it, no customization, perfect for the workplace, hence office managers...I don't own mobile peripherals so I wouldn't know about this site patterned from phones, but I do know where the design choice came from...Every piece of software/sites/phones along with win 8 has been designed with the same blocky rectangles along with the new OS es 8/10 to discourage customization along with this site.

They're working hard to get all the kinks out of the new design. I understand that some of these changes aren't what folks are used to seeing, but I think once you get the hang of it, you'll see that it's a bit more streamlined, which make navigation easier. In this day and age, multiple platforms on multiple Operating Systems is a necessary evil for sites that wants to grow and expand. I don't think it's all "for phones and tablets". Just saying...

Have a creative day!

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My Lil' Store

yeah. so streamlined, they've removed things like "italics" and "bold" buttons you find in basic word processors etc in favour of a markup language. thats not streamlined, thats moronic. thats not easier. thats HARDER...
so streamlined, they've Duplicated functions. yup look up at that fat white bar that holds "forum stats" "mark all read" and "start thread"

then look down to see the SAME BUTTONS for Mark all read and start thread above the forum. yup. streamlined... brought to you by the Redundancy dept of Redundancy... add to that they also put the name on the top and bottom.... redundant!

hpw did this pass even basic review let alone testing?

GOOD LORD!!! Rendo hired the Ebay Web folks to redesign this site! God help us....

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@4220362
Fair enough...
However, I think the design is a wretched eyesore, it offends my creative nature to see such a featureless design, as it inspires me to draw/paint/sculpt/model and render the blandness out of existence, unfortunately the metro-style is designed in opposition to creativity, which makes it as inappropriate for an artist site as rhinoceros mating footage is to a fine dining site...But it's here to stay until that stinking metro trend has run it's course and returns to a properly designed website for artists, so until then, I'm forced to adapt, as there still remains a monolithic amount of outstanding content on this site, even though navigating it is like knitting with boxing gloves while sitting two inches from a TV with a broken horizontal shift...

BTW, I clicked on your store's link and was assaulted by the main page, I hope they fix the linking system.

How the hell can you like the redesign?! Nothing even shows up in the MP, vendor pages, or freestuff aside from the menu bars!

Edit: Nevermind, adblock was blocking the images. Thanks a lot, Rendo staff, I'd better be able to block all the extra banners, "tweet/facebook/fdavorite this", and all the other crap I don't like cluttering the page and slowing my browser!

Also, the images are HUGE and the menu bar is small! Can we please go back to 3-4 products per row?!?!?!? Notr everyone uses a mobile phone!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also, no download button or anything on the Freebie pages.

The whole darn site is awful. Get rid of the ads (excluding the vendors/etc). Gosh, I hate what some folks must think is progress.

@4220257

And that is the thing. Who the hell do renders on a smartphone???

The truth is I can get used to pretty much anything given time...all the layout changes I'll get used to and just change my viewing habits (like to have gallery stats be correct) but there is one thing I will not get past and that's the Upload limit of 1200x1500, haven't made an image that small in years and won't do so now, I'd rather have the 512K limit at least I could post 1920x1080 wallpaper size and reach the 512k with compression, 1200x 675 is a postage stamp

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@4220474

you are right. I do not criticize the store design (think it is not bad) and I really like the new style of the forum but I do not like the upload restrictions for images and also the thumbnail issue is a thing I do not like. The old gallery overview was way better than this new one but it seems they have changed a little thing. we now have page numbers :) but the thumbnails they have also to fix and they have to undo the upload restrictions.

Not in favor of the new layout, It's confusing and I cannot believe I'm seeing adverts for items not related to CGI art.
An Ad for a Law Firm at the bottom of a page, Really??? you guys that hard up for cash flow?
In all the changes it would really have been nice to see a filter that allows Poser Users to block out DAZ Studio Products That have overtaken the market place like the plague..

I wasted time looking at Hair textures to find out it was for Hongyu's V7 Hair prop. No mention of G3 product on the thumb.
You really need to address this or as someone said above, the Vendors will suffer.

Regards DML2000

I'm still seeing unsecure elements that aren't using https which kind of defeats the idea of using the https.

The dust settled, thinking "what a fine home, at least for now" not realizing that doom would soon be coming in the form of a vacuum cleaner.

I've stopped seeing those "partial unsecure" flags from Firefox for the site as of this morning. The forums here and the marketplace both seem fine in that regard now.

(I might have just come in after it was sorted out, or perhaps not hitting the broken parts of the site, but I never did get straight-up insecure site warnings like those some folks are reporting.)

I don't have a voice anymore, writer's gallery is only 1000 characters now... but if I did have a voice, I would say this is the most ridiculous user interface anyone could have come up with. It looks like someone took a phone app and converted it for a tablet, and then put it on a computer.

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I think we can criticize as much as we want. I guess Rendo gives a shit on what we are writing in these threads. Or does anyone have read a comment if they plan to undo the image size restrictions for example?

I've brought up this writer's forum issue.

At this time, I ask you to please remain patient.

Hope Kumor

Editor-in-chief of Renderosity Magazine

how long do you expect the users to remain patient ? are you as a team taking in the sheer amount of complaints, both here and now on facebook? the fact the users hate this new design?

or will it be as usual, we're stuck with this mess?

I don't expect answers. there's been so little comeback, it's insulting.

Since you now have a million images loading on the front page, I'm finding it takes longer to load. I mean is it really necessary to try and thumbnail everything on the first page? You made the search function longer, along with an extra step. 99% of the time, I'm searching for products, you now having it searching all your departments. Then when it comes up, I have to call up another menu for what I was searching for. Every other web site tries to be helpful and searches on the department your in...you have to be different, and this is not a good different.

Overall, I'm not impressed with the new site. You went for window dressing over making it better for the customer.

I'm so sorry about this new layout, I certainly am not charmed by, and I'm totally confused as if I have to solve a whole big puzzle, while several pieces have lost/are gone. (just as the notifications ;-). Wishing you a lot success to make things a LOT better, our simple: TURN ALL THE CHANGES BACK, PLEASE!!!

The front page design is difficult for spotting announcements. Any important announcement will be buried by the amount of eye filling images displayed. Like static noise.

The dust settled, thinking "what a fine home, at least for now" not realizing that doom would soon be coming in the form of a vacuum cleaner.

I understand with new site layouts, come bugs but when I first saw the site I thought it was great, now I'm realizing that navigation is far beyond frustrating. The gallery issues others have mentioned, really need to be fixed. My biggest concern at the moment is the Marketplace. As a vendor is very upsetting to see your new product released only to find out it's not listed anywhere in the MP! My new character was just released and good luck finding her under any category. It's not listed under "New" which is strange because she's NEW! and she's not shown in any other category. How are vendors supposed to sell products when buyers can't even see them?!!

I spoke too soon, my new product is now showing in the MP. This is just confusing, although it doesn't take much to confuse me!

They could have kept the addresses alone. Now my quick access pages are outdated.

@4220458 Best laugh all day! Thank you so much! :) "Who the hell does renders on a smart phone." loooool I love this line! That would be an impressive smart phone. And very, very, very patient user....Might take a day to render what, a person's foot?

The dust settled, thinking "what a fine home, at least for now" not realizing that doom would soon be coming in the form of a vacuum cleaner.

The dust settled, thinking "what a fine home, at least for now" not realizing that doom would soon be coming in the form of a vacuum cleaner.

Beta testing. Apparently that phrase is totally unknown here.... Instead somebody decided "save a little money, what's the worst that can happen" and ends up losing months of revenue. Bravo.

The dust settled, thinking "what a fine home, at least for now" not realizing that doom would soon be coming in the form of a vacuum cleaner.

The idea that "we will fix it in post production" is costly and just doesn't work. What we are experiencing now on this site suggests that someone took shortcuts. I do not doubt the good intentions of the staff of Rendorosity or their ability to fix the problems people are experiencing. But by the time they do this people may be so pissed off it will not make any difference. Food for thought the next you guys make "improvements" to the site.
Unfortunately, that is the rule at DAZ and RDNA as well.

Actually, one of the admins informed me in a different thread that there actually was beta testing this time
Daz did beta testing for its new site design, as well. They still implemented it when it was only half-way fixed though.

It`s all about the show here at Renderosity and also at DAZ and with the new design of their software. They waste so much space for nothing and your workspace gets smaller and smaller everytime they do update their software and so it seems to be here at renderosity and their store and gallery.
Unfortunately, that is slowly becoming the industry standard. It's called the "Metro Style". Metro is all about bland, flat pages with constant motion (described as "lively"), usually via carousels or swiping, and big buttons rather than icons. Though the genuine metro style is made for super wide-screens monitors and mobile apps.
This despite conflicting studies on whether or not carousels increase sales.

@4221358

My awareness that there was a new site coming was via a maintenance page when the upgrade actually happened. I visit Rendo's Marketplace daily. I receive update emails from them. Nowhere was there any promotion for testers. So who were their testers? They needed more than "does it work" testing. They needed "does this meet your needs? Why/Why not?" testing.

Edit: It seems, based on another post in a different thread, that there were such testers and that they gave negative feedback during the testing phase, and changes were not made. Honestly, it would have been less disappointing to know that there was a lack of appropriate testers.

I probably have a leg up here, because I work in software design, but it isn't rocket science to recognize that you need to understand that what your actual users want an application to do is far more important than what the application designers think it ought to do. This site isn't just buggy. (And boy, is it.) It doesn't seem especially fit for purpose. Functionality was removed or downgraded seemingly without thought to how that functionality was used. (I'm looking at search and the gallery, here, in particular.)

Stuff like the image dimension limits on gallery uploads simply should never have changed by surprise. If it was going to change, there should have been a "hey, this is changing" post somewhere at a minimum, and ideally, there should have been some community input on what good limits should be. Long, long before the implementation.

I nominate FrankT for the most inappropriately named thread for the year! :D

I agree with Baggins Bill on Page one, and PTOUsig in the specifics listed.

I was thinking that the site was being designed for smart phones or something because it is so dysfunctional on my desktop that I find it hard to believe the redesign was intentional for my type of system.

To the person who commented that the forum format was better, I have a question. Where are all the simple basics to underline, resize text and make bold? On my machine you have to click on a blue "Markdown" text (what the heck relevancy is 'Markdown'?) and then basically program in your underlining etc. via special characters.

Razor42, Thank you. You made me smile! -3Dstories

As long as I can shop securely ............. It is secure isn't it?? Last time the page loads were slow like this there was a key-trapping scammer stealing credit card info.

I've looked through this thread and I don't see anything from the OP explaining exactly what they like so much about new layout. Like others, I can't think of too many positive things about it and I can give specifics about what : Needlessly disorganized and cluttered, pointless offset to images, inconsistencies between sections (compare the What's New of the Marketplace and the Freestuff) and a general feeling that the changes are not meant to make things more streamline or easier but just meant to make the site look cool for phone users in complete disregard for PC users.

Last time I checked, I don't think my iPhone can render images.

well I just got an email notice that Powerage was reducing it's products by up to 50% off and clicked on the page that sent me right to the Powerage page. After seeing the little revolving circle for 3-4 minutes I just said screw it.. and closed down the page.. I can understand a site wanting to better it's self but it should only have to deal with minor bugs after the site is up, The new site is running really slow, and do we really need those large thumbs.. and if the answer to that is yes. . could the vendors please install some text that the item for sale is DAZ Studio Related

Regards DML2000

Razor42 posted at 8:09PM Mon, 24 August 2015 - #4221490

I nominate FrankT for the most inappropriately named thread for the year! :D

I still like the new site design though :) and it seems to be loading a lot faster for me as well

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Groade posted at 8:10PM Mon, 24 August 2015 - #4222711

I've looked through this thread and I don't see anything from the OP explaining exactly what they like so much about new layout. Like others, I can't think of too many positive things about it and I can give specifics about what : Needlessly disorganized and cluttered, pointless offset to images, inconsistencies between sections (compare the What's New of the Marketplace and the Freestuff) and a general feeling that the changes are not meant to make things more streamline or easier but just meant to make the site look cool for phone users in complete disregard for PC users.

Last time I checked, I don't think my iPhone can render images.

That would be because I gave up reading this thread after the sh*tstorm of comments.
for me it is cleaner, faster and easier to navigate.

I'm not totally sold on the endless scrolling gallery though

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Actually, I'm wondering if they're trying to find how many images they can stuff on the home page? I find it so messy and busy, all I do now, is load Renderosity....waiting...waiting....waiting...select 'New Items' from the menu....waiting.....look and leave. I don't bother anymore looking at the features, the sales...quick look and leave. Too much crap on the home page now.

I appreciate Frank T Standing his ground!

Frank, it looks like you've been on Rendo for almost ten years. Why do you like the re-do? What specifically do you feel is good?
and, if I may ask, what kind of device(s) are you viewing this site on? I know some others have said they use Tablets primarily to purchase items at Renderosity.
Is the site format similar to others you like and are familiar with? (The new site, at its best, is alien and uncomfortable to me on my device, which is a windows graphics station). Do you use any ad blockers to help it load faster (I haven't yet, but may take some of the suggestions by folks in these threads)?

I've been told that the forums are not necessarily representative of all the people that purchase at Renderosity. Are there twitter or FB posts which are different? I don't see what you are seeing but I'd really like to know why you feel the site is easier to use than what was here before.

Hi 3DStories
I'm using the site on a Windows 7 workstation using the latest firefox - I also use an Android tablet at times

• site loads a lot faster - I do use Adblock and Noscript so they may be helping
• forums haven't changed appreciably for me - I don't mind using markup, it's pretty easy to get the hang of.
• I'm not totally convinced by the infinite scrolling in the galleries - I'd prefer it to be paged personally.
• the activity feed isn't a huge problem for me - it's a single click when I hit the site to open it up and have a look. Forum ebots have been sorted out now and they seem to be working ok.
• I like the way an image opens in a separate tab so you don't lose your place in the gallery.

I have a few photo's to upload so we'll see how that goes.

I haven't purchased anything as yet - my 3D activities have taken a bit of a back seat to photography so I couldn't comment on that bit but having a quick wander around the marketplace wasn't too horrible.

I can't put my finger on any one thing which I particularly like but none of it is actively horrible or makes me not want to visit.

Everyone is going to have their own opinion and that's fine - healthy debate is always a good thing so I wouldn't expect everyone to feel the same way.

I kind of wish I hadn't started the thread now though - it immediately descended into flames about the site re-design but hey - you live and learn right?

(I can't believe I've been a member for 10 years! wow )

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Thanks, Frank. Enjoyed reading your comments. Appreciate that you took the time to answer my questions.

I'm glad your started the thread. It's honest enthusiasm, and a different perspective than the others.