It's been a while since I gave you an update on the progress of Poser 11. I'm sure you're filled with anticipation as to what the new version will bring.

One of the biggest questions is about the next generation of Poser figures. We absolutely are making a new couple for Poser. They are completely new and very carefully designed. Along the way we've stopped and asked for feedback from prominent content artists and users to make sure we are making the next generation figures they need. I really want to show them to you but you'll have to wait a bit longer for that big reveal. They need a little more polish and refinement before their trip down the virtual red carpet.

There's a lot of talk about the new renderer I revealed last time. We continue to refine the implementation of Cycles inside Poser. We're trying to preserve as much compatibility with legacy content as possible while at the same time exposing the full potential of a physically based renderer. It is something of a balancing act. We’re working with texture and material artists from the community to achieve that balance.

We've also implemented GPU support for SuperFly. Currently this is based on CUDA and is for NVIDIA GPUs only. For systems that don't have compatible hardware SuperFly will run on the CPU too.

Now it would be easy to just focus on the big shiny render engine you've already heard about that. You probably want to know what else we've got. One cool new feature is something we call Custom Parameter Palettes. You can create a blank palette and then drag and drop any combination of dials from the Parameters Palette to the Custom palette. Let's say you're fine-tuning the pose of an arm. You can drag the rotations for the collar, shoulder and elbow to a custom palette so you don't have to keep switching between body parts to adjust the pose. You can have as may custom palettes as you like and they can be saved not only with the scene but also with the figures or props saved to the library.

Ginger shows off the Custom Parameter Pallet with some of her expression parameters added to the palette.

There's a recent actor list on the Parameter Palette. It works like a web browser history with back and forward buttons. Now you can just click the "back" button to select the last thing you were working on. It's great for working in complex, highly populated scenes.

You asked for it so we added a select tool. All it does is select so there's no chance of accidentally moving a figure or prop.

We've added a tool to automatically adjust the rigs of weight-mapped figures for drastic morphs. So if you want to make a troll morph out of a super model you can. Once you morph the figure just use the Adjust Centers to Morph command and it will match the centers and create all the code to make those centers follow the morph. For clothing to match these figures all you need is the matching morph and to enable the Follow Origins setting. There's literally nothing else to set up.

Since we've made it easy to create morphs for figures we needed to make it easy to share these morphs. We have a new command that will export a Morph Injection file right from poser. It's been possible to inject morphs into poser figure for a long time. Now you can create these injection files quickly and easily right from Poser. If you create characters for Poser, this will greatly simplify your workflow.

As we expanded the morphing capabilities, it was clear we needed to add power to subdivision. We could easily subdivide the figure but that didn't necessarily add detail. That brought us to high resolution morph targets. You can add high resolution details to sub divided figures right inside Poser using the Morph brush. It's really straight-forward. If your figure is subdivided and you add detail it's automatically baked down to the lower subdivision levels. It's all automatic and of course you can share your high resolution morphs using the morph injection export tool.

Not everyone is into hyper-realistic renders so we've added some great cartoon tools too. The coolest is the Geometric Edge Lines effect. This creates a hard geometry based outline that's displayed by the OpenGL-based Preview renderer. When combined with the comic book modes it produces amazing comic book style images.

This image from Brian Haberlin demonstrates Poser’s Cartoon Shading and combined with the new Geometric Edge Lines.

These are just a few of the things we have in store for you with Poser 11. Stay tuned and I'll reveal more cool features in my next announcement.

This looks exciting. With every version, I say this is good. I probably won't need to upgrade for a while. That while always seems to be exactly when the next version comes out. Go figure.

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How exciting! Thank you for sharing!

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Shouldn't this be in the Poser forum?

I definitely want the geometric edge lines function. I am doing more 2.5D art these days. Hyper-photorealism is becoming stale for me.

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Great to finally see a news update for Poser. I was getting concerned about what Poser was going to do to stay in the game because it is my software of choice over the other guy. I'm definitely hoping the new figures are competitive and anticipating their red carpet debut. Oh and absolutely love the geometric line addition...very nice.

Quote: As we expanded the morphing capabilities, it was clear we needed to add power to subdivision. We could easily subdivide the figure but that didn't necessarily add detail. That brought us to high resolution morph targets. You can add high resolution details to sub divided figures right inside Poser using the Morph brush. It's really straight-forward. If your figure is subdivided and you add detail it's automatically baked down to the lower subdivision levels. It's all automatic and of course you can share your high resolution morphs using the morph injection export tool.

This is amaizing, YEAH !!!

I am just amazed, happy, excited and full of joy for this new version!

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KristiS posted at 10:14AM Thu, 17 September 2015 - #4228945

I posted in the Poser Forum as well. I pointed them to this thread and locked it

And now for the drooling..... All the new tools sounds fantastic too. Maybe I'll start playing around with morphs since the creation of injection files is more streamlined. I've always been intimated by that.

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I am very excited and I think it will all be GREAT!!!

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I still can't use the majority of Poser 10. The product is quickly approaching the point where the average hobbyist will no longer be able to use it, and there goes the market. Perhaps a disclaimer that not everyone "needs" this advanced product if they just want to putter and make nice pictures? Some of us don't have enough time left to learn all this new and spiffy stuff.

thanks, nerd. it answers my question about geom edge at rdna.

I would ask the mods to leave this thread here so they can keep the trolls out.

Thank you for the info Nerd3d! Also side thanks to KristiS for posting links to this thread. I like the drag and drop pallet concept a lot. Sometimes on working on a post I accidentally click on the wrong part (especially if there's two or more figures). I really like the idea and that it can be saved with the library. I can already see some templates for quick posing... Also the cartoon render looks very cool. Very pen and ink looking. I like it!

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Now I'm officially excited! The Geometric Edge Lines effect looks awesome! Thank you for listening to us whiners and including GPU rendering options as well! I just upgraded to PP2014 so I can wait patiently till you've perfected everything. :)

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Very Exciting information here! I am really looking forward to this new version. Thank you for posting this information and I am eager to learn more about what is to come!

great news about gpu - I got minimal iMac nvidia card - 1024 MB.

Are you going to do anything about scene file size? Load Victoria 4, INJect a character and watch the pz3 file balloon to 200 MB. Add another V4 and watch the file expand to 400 MB. It is is insane. I always cringe when I save a new version of a previous scene.

This is great news! :D

Also, I would definitely be interested in supporting the new figures with content (high quality dynamic clothing in my case) as soon as they come out. Let's give them a good chance this time!

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hey Frequency -- that is so refreshing to hear from a vendor. my hope is that the new figures are some kind of kickbutt, and that more vendors, like yourself, are quite open to lending support. past/beyond rendering engines, past/beyond lighting & shader capability, so much of what i see here, at least on this site, in terms of how Poser is used, is figure-driven; but figures cannot survive in a vacuum and need support, and ready support at that. so thank you for being willing to step up to the plate. [hands you a bat and says 'swing batter!']

i, too, am excited to read about further developments with the rendering capabilities. and like those before me, i'm all sorts of adoring the potential i see already with the geo edge lines - that example above is so edible... mm mm yum

Soooo looking forward to it! The custompalettes sound so insanely handy and the detailed morphing and export morph injections are just such great new features!

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I look forward to it and maybe vendors will make more content for Poser

This all sounds great to me! Now if they add instancing as well we can really have decent environments in Poser!

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Sounds like great improvements, Charles! Thanx for the update... :)

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Are you going to do anything about scene file size? Load Victoria 4, INJect a character and watch the pz3 file balloon to 200 MB. Add another V4 and watch the file expand to 400 MB. It is is insane. I always cringe when I save a new version of a previous scene.

Turn on file compression in General Preferences?

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Hi Have you considered adding a dedicated Figure "Visual Selector" for posing ?? Nearly every Character program Has one it seems

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It all looks so good! Poser has always been my software of choice but I hadn't heard of anything coming from them. That new toon render is just heavenly! Can't wait to see what other goodies are coming out.

This is really good stuff. Glad to see the progress. I'm especially interested to see demos of how the rig adjustment features will work in the real world.

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At last some great news! :)

GPU support - thanks for that, handy and interesting extras! :)

As an exclusive Poser vendor.. some more questions come to mind..

INJ straight from Poser sounds fantastic, especially if it supports custom morphs - real time saver!

Most important.. dare I suggest another time saver that hasn't been addressed in the last few Poser versions?

Once an mc6 file is saved lots of times Poser saves a wrong reference of file "NO_MAP" " . (still a mystery when or why)

It is very frustrating as a vendor having to go manually over each single file - every single product! - checking and editing those references (some times up to 60 or more per file) with the correct reference of file NO_MAP without the quotation marks, so Poser won't be looking endlessly for a texture called NO_MAP that does not exist!

If you take care of that bug, you have my personal vote of ten thumbs up, not just one! :)

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if i can install it on my main rig without an internet connection, count me in for the upgrade

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MistyLaraPrincess posted at 1:59PM Tue, 22 September 2015 - #4230040

if i can install it on my main rig without an internet connection, count me in for the upgrade

You can - simply follow the instructions in the user's manual (This also applies to the GameDev version - it doesn't actually need an internet connection - just follow the instructions).

Thank you, nerd for the update! I'm looking forward to the hard edges cartooning as something different. The current renderer is actually good enough for me, I just want faster. But I may take back my comment when I understand more of what you're talking about, if it works on my machine.

Yeah, I agree with above internet comments. If it has an auto kill/deactivation switch like the Game Developer I have to think twice about it. Too huge a negative.

But I want to keep this thread positive about new developments, so no discussion about that. It can be found well enough in other threads.

Really looking forward to this upcoming version of poser! Really love the new changes coming with it! I hope this encourages the venders, to create for poser. :)

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Hoping all this great stuff is coming to PPro 2015 as well! sounds fantastic

I don't think there will be a PPro 2015. Usually they're spaced 2 years apart so we went from PP2010 to PP2012 and now PP2014 with the next one being PP2016 probably coming out late this year or early next.

Well in that case they better add a render queue to poser 11! Batch renders is the only thing I need from poser but I'd love to see the new features <3

cedarwolf posted at 9:39PM Wed, 07 October 2015 - #4228975

I still can't use the majority of Poser 10. The product is quickly approaching the point where the average hobbyist will no longer be able to use it, and there goes the market. Perhaps a disclaimer that not everyone "needs" this advanced product if they just want to putter and make nice pictures? Some of us don't have enough time left to learn all this new and spiffy stuff.

I have an old XP computer that I still use Poser 4 on. My main computer runs Poser Pro 2014, but to tell the truth, there's a few things in Pro 2014 that I use, but I can do most of what I do in Poser 4. But then I'm not using either for photo-realistic rendering.

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One other question what about figure support, I still love Poser and with these new features I am liking it even more.. But I am using Genesis 1 & 2 more so now and while they work well in Poser they are sort of not quite if you know what I mean..

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Not just Genesis compatibility is an issue. When artists like Stonemason announce they're no longer supporting Poser because of how much more difficult & time consuming -- and therefore less profitable -- it is to produce content in it as compared to Daz Studio, then you know it's time to up your game by improving your development tools. Not to mention that iRay is now all the rage.

The way I see it, no vendor is irreplaceable. If Stonemason no longer wants the money of Poser users, his loss. Someone else will pick up the slack. What we Poser users should be doing, is supporting those vendors who DO create for Poser, nurture them, and eventually we will foster a new Stonemason. We should support Poser vendors instead of complaining that Poser is not Daz Studio.

True. I rarely buy anything that's not compatible with Poser though I have made some exceptions with Genesis 2 when I was able to use Studio. Would rather use things without going the DSON importer route since that doesn't always play nicely with my system. As much as possible I support vendors who produce for Poser, but it's kinda hard to do that sometimes because what they make, while excellent, is not what I need. For instance, Vendor A releases a set that is 100% usable in Poser and other programs, no DSON thingy required. BUT ... it's a modern prison scene and I have no need for one of those. Vendor B, who no longer uses Poser but whose items can be imported into it even though it's a right pain, releases a futuristic spaceship interior that is precisely what I do need for my current project. On the one hand I want to support the PA that supports my program of choice, on the other hand said PA does not do Sci-fi or historic stuff while the one who doesn't support Poser (except in a roundabout kludgy way that requires much effort on my part) comes up with exactly what I'm looking for. :sigh: What's a poor customer to do? Yes, Poser is Poser. It is not, and never should become Daz Studio, on that we're agreed I think. But better compatibility between the two, for those who need it, surely wouldn't hurt either.

No DSON or Genesis is needed. We need good Poser figures, that can easily compete with Genesis3. (...or even better)

That would be best of all. I really hope it happens. And soon -- I'm not getting any younger.

As far as figures, what we need is Dawnesis++: a revamped Dawn/Dusk/Luna morphing figure, with a midrange between Luna and Dawn/Dusk (let's call them Sonny/Sunny, as they'll need to be more distinctly boy/girl than Luna). Dawn & Dusk especially need significant resculpting (think Poser 5 Judy vs. Eternal Judy).

They also need good textures. The ones that they come with are, ahem, suboptimal (and I'm unable to justify buying any others for lack of useful/satisfactory preview images).

Don't get me wrong, they are great figures, but they honestly need a good bit of work to compete with Genesis. The good news is that they certainly seem capable of being brought to that point with a few months of work. The even better news is that they already take great advantage of Poser's advanced rigging techniques.

To summarize: Dawn and Dusk are built to last, but they need some improvements to gain wider acclaim among the Poser community, and they should be included as the default figures in Poser 11/Poser Pro 2016.

I have upgraded my Poser program every version from Poser 5 to the recent Game Dev version. However, if they decide to include Dawn and Dusk as the main Poser figures, I wont upgrade no more.

firstly I ask is GPU support in rendering or preview? second when is poser going to fix/replace the hair room for something better, the idea of it is good, but most people avoid it because its a pig to use. and lastly, this is called poser, why not add some sort of walking/movement system that is better than the walk designer? so it can do more than walk and do it better. I know some of these requests exist but it feels like poser hasn't been advancing, more like just tarting up, to me new figures don't make better software, I would like to see poser dragged into the future and show off what it can do. I will say Superfly does sound like a step in the right direction (as long as GPU support is on its way) as I have not rendered in poser since Reality came out.

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I think that Poser needs jump over 'fixed' characters and start working towards truly universal meshes. 3D Body scanners are coming out for 3D 'selfies.' Someone needs to work with Smith Micro and one or more of these high end 3D scanning companies to create a Universal mesh. Right now from what I see, the meshes and the photo mapping for scanners are all over the place. Once you have a Universal mesh that can come from someone being scanned, now you can have vendors creating items for people that can actually be made and sold, as well as all the other stuff that goes along such as animations (I'm sure that once folks have a 3D selfie file, one of the next things is they'd like it to move). There will probably be several attempts - drafts if you will - before they or anyone gets an Truly Universal Mesh right anyway.

Poser's new female: Pauline will be, in my opinion the best of both worlds. She has features that we like from V4 and she has some features similar to Genesis 3. Scalability is improved greatly and expression "bones" as well. Her mesh and textures can be used as MR's as well. I think developers are going to be very pleased. Yes, I can discuss this now. Her male counterpart, Paul will be comparable. SM is working very hard to work hand in hand with content creators. I hope this at least answers part of your questions.

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I have to say from the image I have seen of Pauline, she is definitely no V7 killer.

Maybe a progression forward though for Poser users from V4 but really more info needs to put forward before anyone can really make a proper assessment of the figure(s).

Well, unless there are more images of Pauline, I really think it's far too early to judge. Are there any other images of her besides the one in the RDNA thread?

From the more I see the more I stand by my initial comment I made, but maybe I will change to a Roxie killer. Pauline has a long way to go to get to V4 standard even in just the general looks department. Whats with the chin and mouth area?

I mean, you be the judge. Maybe I'm a little biased, but I definitely see some disparity in quality.

The cartoon feature is very exciting.

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And again: where are you getting images of Pauline? I didn't see anything much at RDNA (one image that isn't really useful, though her feet do look good), so links would be nice :)

check this thread instead, it shows off her features better:

http://forum.runtimedna.com/showthread.php?101869-Pauline-adjusted

How does Poser 11 compare to Poser Pro 2014? I have the latter and have been quite happy with it, but am also looking for improvements. Is Poser 11 an upgrade over Poser Pro 2014, or is the latter a more deluxe version of the software? Thanks!

The equivalent to PP2014 will be Poser11Pro.

Thanks! Sounds like I'm in wait mode for the next Poser Pro release. Hopefully 2016!