I'm just going to state the problem instead of asking a specific question, and hopefully someone can tell me what to do about it. I've been trying to convert this same shirt for weeks now, from M4 to V4 male. Actually it doesn't have to be this specific shirt, just a basic men's dress shirt with no tie and the collar can be opened up, but I've been working on the one from the M401 set. First I tried using Clothes Converter, because it automatically converts between M4 and V4, but it can't actually convert to a morphed version of a character, even though it allegedly can. So I went ahead with the V4 conversion, thinking I could use Morphing Clothes to add the male morph, but it didn't do a good enough job. Once the clothing is made into female shape it's hard to take that shape out again, and since I'm converting from a male character to another male character, it would be nice to skip that step. Next I tried the fitting room, but I don't know how to use that at all, the clothing comes out misshapen, and I can't figure out how to make it keep the basic shape it went in with. (I have made it fit pretty well in the unconformed state, and I really just need to make it conform without changing it too much.) Next I tried converting it in the setup room, but that also makes it balloon out when conformed, and the joints mess up when it is posed, and although I know I need to learn how to fix joints, for now it is still a mystery to me, and all I want to do is put a shirt on this guy, and since I paid for the upgrade to Poser Pro I'd like to be able to use the fitting room. Also, the copy morphs function doesn't copy the exact morph. Since the morphs in the clothing are removed during conversion (even though Clothes Converter is supposed to be able to retain them) I thought I could convert the shirt and then copy the morphs from the original shirt, but, for example, the morph to open the collar just pulls the shirt apart in a random place, so I already had to start over because of that, and use whatever morphs I'm going to want to use on it before converting it. I'm tempted to buy the Wardrobe Wizard add-ons, but that's another thing to buy, and as I said, I already paid for the upgrade, and I don't know if that would work any better anyway.