KimberlyC opened this issue on Dec 18, 2015 · 71 posts
KimberlyC posted Fri, 18 December 2015 at 12:45 PM
Hello all!
Thank you to our awesome freestuff contributors!
I wanted to bring up one thing that seems to have been missed in the past. When sharing your link to your freestuff items, the link can not contain a "store". This is considered off-site linking to another marketplace which is not allowed. Any links that contain a store will be removed by staff for that reason. I understand this can be an inconvenience for some, I'm very sorry for that! We would love to see your items uploaded to the freestuff section here on the site! You can simply link to your freestuff item(s) here in the freestuff section.
Please let me know if you have any questions!
Thanks! Kimberly
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bobbystahr posted Sun, 20 December 2015 at 12:52 AM
Still?...thought we had them tamed when I was patrolling the halls. heh heh
Once
in a while I look around,
I see
a sound
and
try to write it down
Sometimes
they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again
EldritchCellar posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 5:43 AM
Waitaminute. Is linking to non store sites still allowed? ShareCG for instance?
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EldritchCellar posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 5:55 AM
And why the seemingly random locking of old threads here, many/most of which are not linking to a store? And the links therein still work.
I got to tell you, I thought many member's complaints about changes around here were perhaps over reactionary and in some instances paranoid. I will admit now, in light of seeing some of the things happening, that some of the choices being made seem only partially thought out in terms of function/purpose... and just downright bizarre.
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EldritchCellar posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 6:58 AM
"We would love to see your items uploaded to the freestuff section here on the site! You can simply link to your freestuff item(s) here in the freestuff section."
I tried that. Then I discovered that my freestuff items weren't showing up in my 'profile; freestuff'. I was almost inclined to to think there were some personally aimed shenanigans going on, if I were paranoid fer instance. Lord knows I've seen plently of biased subterfuge on the part of supposedly 'moderate' moderators. Lol.
Not a very big incentive to have my things here if a random person (or myself for that matter!) can't peruse my contributions via clicking my 'profile'. Which is objective, and not at all simply opinion.
You had better lock adamthwaits' thread. I notice it mysteriously was excluded from the purge... It links to a STORE. Otherwise I'd be inclined to think that some more biased/selective half assery is happening. Lol. ;) (Looks on with disbelief).
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EnglishBob posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 8:40 AM
EldritchCellar posted at 2:38PM Thu, 18 February 2016 - #4255716
Waitaminute. Is linking to non store sites still allowed? ShareCG for instance?
That isn't what the other thread says. "Just to let you know - throughout the next few days, I'm going to be locking off-site links in this freestuff section."
So: the threads remain, and you can still read them and visit the off-site links; you just can't post to say thank you any more. :rolleyes:
Still, consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, or something.
hopeandlove posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 11:52 AM
Have you guys posted any freestuff items lately? I'd encourage you to do so! We'd love to see what you're made of. 
Hope Kumor
Editor-in-chief of Renderosity Magazine
EldritchCellar posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 12:46 PM
Yeah, I have. Highly rated. As a matter of fact I have one of the highest rated poser freebies in years. At ShareCG. Just not here. Take a look for yourself. Also won the halloween contest 2d category here at rendo. Which qualifies as "lately". :) That's what I'm made of (besides a degree in art, graduating with honors and awards, being off and on a working "professional" artist in the fine arts and ceramics production industry at my choosing over the years, and being a contributing member to these forums for going on a decade I guess). It's a privilage to your site that I continue to be here. Not the other way around.
How's those facts in terms of "what I'm made of"?
How bout you? Follower. Lol.
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hopeandlove posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 1:27 PM
@EldritchCellar- Privilege, huh? I'm glad to hear that you've been very active! That's so refreshing and good to hear!! 
Hope Kumor
Editor-in-chief of Renderosity Magazine
EldritchCellar posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 1:30 PM
Sure no problem. :D
You're kinda cute btw.;) Lol.
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hopeandlove posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 2:39 PM
WandW posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 7:26 PM
EnglishBob posted at 8:21PM Thu, 18 February 2016 - #4255735
That isn't what the other thread says.
SO THIS is what the bruhaha is about!! 
Whose bright idea was this??? Trying to emulate Content Paradise's Forums? 
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EricofSD posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 7:31 PM
I am in agreement with this policy and support it. Hope, I'm sorry you are under attack. Stand firm.
The only time I post freebies, I upload them here. A freebie is a freebie. I don't use freebies for commerce to get folks to see my websites. If I give something away as free, then that is what it is.
If I recall correctly, DAZ has the same policy. Click on a freebie and it comes from DAZ, not some other site.
For those who think that linking is unfair, consider the people that abuse that. I have deviantart permanently on block because I have visited too many artist galleries that had viruses. I contacted them and not sure who responded but I was told that there is no control over the dot or . subdomains. Many are honorable. It takes one jerk to ruin it for all.
I am pleased to see that Rendo is reigning in the chaos and building a community. We are here. This is our city, our town, our community. Yes, we know there are other communities out there. That's fine. This is where I choose to be as is true for many others. I might go vacation some day in another community, or maybe even do the snowbird thing and buy a time share, but home is home and there's no place like home.
Thank you, Hope, I will be more willing to visit people's websites and check them out once I know they are good, stable, honest, upright people. And the only way I can learn that is by their reputation here at Rendo.
WandW posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 7:49 PM
EricofSD posted at 8:42PM Thu, 18 February 2016 - #4255937
If I recall correctly, DAZ has the same policy. Click on a freebie and it comes from DAZ, not some other site.
Nope, DAZ doesn't host any member freebies.
I've been hosting Anton Kisiel's free Apollo Maximus figure, but due to his stipulations on how the files are to be handled, they cannot be hosted here, so they are going to be lost to the Rendo Community, unless they manage to find them using the Forum Search. However, Apollo is linked in the Freebies Forum at DAZ, and there was recently a pointer posted to it in their Poser Forum by a Moderator there....
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IceEmpress posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 8:12 PM
SO THIS is what the bruhaha is about!! ? Whose bright idea was this??? Trying to emulate Content Paradise's Forums?
What Content Paradise forums?
IceEmpress posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 8:14 PM
And Eric, you do realize that this rule also applies to off-site tutorials, right?
WandW posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 8:16 PM
IceEmpress posted at 9:15PM Thu, 18 February 2016 - #4255948
SO THIS is what the bruhaha is about!! ? Whose bright idea was this??? Trying to emulate Content Paradise's Forums?
What Content Paradise forums?
Yes, that's my point; they used to have Forums....
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EricofSD posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 8:22 PM
ice, the only tutorial I posted was here at rendo...
https://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2877151
The interesting thing is that Rendo can't find it in the rendo search engine and I was told that it likely was gone. Mr. Google found it and that's the link.
So if the big issue is folks who don't like the idea that their links are not allowed here, perhaps the work around is to get to know us and let us get to know you.
Eric
EricofSD posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 8:44 PM
Ok I tried to edit but I don't have permission, so here is my next post..
I understand that inbred is bad. That said, this community has a lot of beta testers and alpha testers and programmers here. I beta tested several softwares. I tried the alpha testing but I prefer to break things in a sandbox than to write code. There is no need to be concerned about loss of information because those folks are here on Rendo.
So folks can post good tuts here and build the tut forums.
I hope that the attacks on Hope and the owner, Tim, will stop. I want to come to a clean forum where the community gets along. Since the departure of some former admins has occurred, this forum has gotten better.
If you want to post a tut, walk us through it like I did.
If you want to share your knowledge, share it directly.
Eric
IceEmpress posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 9:52 PM
So if the big issue is folks who don't like the idea that their links are not allowed here, perhaps the work around is to get to know us and let us get to know you.
I don't want people here to get to know me, partly because it's none of anyone's business here unless I make it so. The same applies to everyone else here.
I hope that the attacks on Hope and the owner, Tim, will stop.
I am not attacking Hope, mostly because I am not making assumptions about her nor any mere forum admin, who is merely a subordinate to Tim and whoever else runs Rendo as a business. Tim is another matter. I mean just look at the disaster this site has been in the past 2-3 years! It is TPtB who are entirely responsible for this mess. Compared to Tim and whoever is responsible for the site design, Hope and the other admins have been real troopers, in spite of some mild condescension and fake smiles in the past during site redesigns. (oh, come on, you can't expect me to believe that Hope, Kimberly, etc. were actually all ^_^ when the whole site was crumbling and having a grand mal seizure around them, and when TPtB would not listen to them about certain no-brainers of site features that everyone was demanding, such as font color for the "sale X% off" text that would actually be readable on the dark background.)
So folks can post good tuts here and build the tut forums.
Not when the tuts belong to someone else who does not participate here. Same with freebies. We do not have control over someone else's freebies. Not all of us are any good at making tutorials.
If you want to share your knowledge, share it directly.
the problem is that many of the good tutorials are not OUR knowledge. As I said. That is part of the reason why this decision and these suggestions are so ridiculous. One of the main purposes of the forum community is to help other members. That becomes very difficult when we cannot link to a freebie that someone is looking for (esp. if it is hosted on dropbox or skydrive) or provide them a link to a rare tutorial (like say, a Terragen 0.9/Classic one in English, or a Daz tutorial in Portugese)
EldritchCellar posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 10:19 PM
I didn't even know a guy named tim owned the place... I just pictured an amorphous digital whatsit running the joint! Lol. Anyway. So it is. No more links... I for one will get by. I haven't attacked anyone BTW. And certainly haven't used language even remotely as venomous in tone as some highly visible community members have. My most nasty comment in months has been "it's a friggin mess". How monstrous. Yawn.
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EricofSD posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 10:33 PM
I guess when it comes down to it, folks want to feel safe. Yeah, the internet is a big place and we can't just click on everything willy nilly, but at the same time, we can't just let everyone post virus links willy nilly in a forum that we consider a community. There has to be a balance. If the pendulum swings to the extreme on this, I suspect it will swing back in time.
Eric
EldritchCellar posted Thu, 18 February 2016 at 10:37 PM
Yeah.
Oh. Guess I'll delete those Google Drive links to spontaneous freebies I made for members with technical queries on the Poser forum. Sigh. And here I thought I had found a viable workaround to 'no more attachments'.
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Vaskania posted Fri, 19 February 2016 at 12:51 AM
EricofSD posted at 10:49PM Thu, 18 February 2016 - #4255971
I guess when it comes down to it, folks want to feel safe. Yeah, the internet is a big place and we can't just click on everything willy nilly, but at the same time, we can't just let everyone post virus links willy nilly in a forum that we consider a community. There has to be a balance. If the pendulum swings to the extreme on this, I suspect it will swing back in time.
Eric
Most of us are perfectly capable of adulting on our own. We don't need anybody shielding us from the "big bad wide world of the internet". This isn't about viruses at all, imo. The same links have been shared for years and now suddenly they're a problem? The powers that be want Rendo to feel more like a community, but rather an internal one. What that will do though is just create a bigger rift than there already is, one in which Rendo is left barren.
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Ravyns posted Fri, 19 February 2016 at 11:04 AM
The "we don't want you to get a virus thing" doesn't hold water.. I've picked up malware from the ads on rendo "WITHOUT" ever clicking a link..
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IceEmpress posted Fri, 19 February 2016 at 2:32 PM
Wow, this is turning into a huge mess. 3-DArena's post in the Freestuff area criticizing the staff was deleted and her store is gone. Those who know her say it was not by choice, and that it was done by marketplace admins. The forum admins are claiming that her post contained personal attacks. Both those who know her and those who saw her post before it was deleted state that this is incorrect (I did not see it myself, sadly) 3-DArena was a major vendor here, who had her store removed once before for rocking the boat about the neutering of Prime.
WandW posted Fri, 19 February 2016 at 4:54 PM
This is terrible. I feel for the Forum mods and coordinators, who are caught in the middle...
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ChaoticSanity posted Fri, 19 February 2016 at 5:30 PM
You can see her post if you are friends with her on facebook. She posted exactly what happened there & she put it public because so many people were asking her what she said that was so awful.
Razor42 posted Fri, 19 February 2016 at 8:36 PM
@ Eldritch
Unfortunately your signature is also in breach of TOS mate...
• Additionally, offsite linking to other marketplaces or freestuff sites are not allowed within the forum, gallery, or forum signatures.
IceEmpress posted Fri, 19 February 2016 at 9:42 PM
And now the main discussion in the Community Center about this is closed because we got too controversial. Go figure.
JVRenderer posted Sat, 20 February 2016 at 1:36 AM
I'm completely AGAINST this policy. I use freebies from other sites in most of my renders, not just from Renderosity. I try to credit as much as possible to support freebies creators from all sites. The limitation of this policy will limit my posting here. I'm not saying that your wrong. I'm just saying I have every right to be against it.
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EldritchCellar posted Sat, 20 February 2016 at 6:52 AM
"@ Eldritch
Unfortunately your signature is also in breach of TOS mate..."
It's funny. I stepped away from this for a couple of days, watched some movies, caught up with some friends. I come back and realize my forum activity is a completely self defeating and demoralizing exercise in futility. This drama is nonsense. Going to take a couple few months and play around with my projects, spend more time with modo. That's the important stuff. All of this is wankery at this particular time... no need to advertise.
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WandW posted Sat, 20 February 2016 at 12:10 PM
"Once there was magic in the world. But hordes of selfish, short-sighted magicians have used up the mana that moved the world, and the magic goes away. Even the most powerful spells are fast becoming futile, and so Orolandes, sad Achaean with half a sword, goes on a quest in search of the lost power. But all the gods and Fair Atlantis are dead. The creatures of spirit, the unicorns and centaurs, are dying. Soon all the sparkling things will be gone from the world and only clay will remain."
--Larry Niven, "The Magic Goes Away"
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JVRenderer posted Sat, 20 February 2016 at 11:03 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but I've read the Renderosity Terms Of Service three times, and there were no mention of offsite linking being prohibited The only mention of no offsite linking was in the FAQ in the Freebies forums. Making up rules on the fly in the FAQ without updating the Terms of Service may not make them legally binding. Technically you cannot enforce these rules, because they are not terms we agreed on. You may want to update your Term of Service agreements, In addition, non of the other forums have a FAQ prohibiting offside linking. There are loop holes in those forums. You may want to update those forums as well. Perhaps I'm just too tired to find them. The TOS was updated last August. If you enforce them now, you may be breaking your own TOS.
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WandW posted Sun, 21 February 2016 at 7:12 AM
"Additionally, offsite linking to other marketplaces or freestuff sites are not allowed within the forum, gallery, or forum signatures. For example: Links to competing stores like Daz3d.com, RuntimeDNA.com, etc are not allowed. However, links to non-competing stores like Etsy.com or Ebay.com are acceptable."
https://www.renderosity.com/mod/wiki/?policies&terms
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IceEmpress posted Sun, 21 February 2016 at 7:20 AM
Which still does not fit the new TOS, which says NO LINKING TO ANYTHING EXTERNAL, not even for youtube videos or to free tutorials on like-- a blog or something.
WandW posted Sun, 21 February 2016 at 9:00 AM
IceEmpress posted at 10:00AM Sun, 21 February 2016 - #4256432
Which still does not fit the new TOS, which says NO LINKING TO ANYTHING EXTERNAL, not even for youtube videos or to free tutorials on like-- a blog or something.
There's more than one TOS? That's not good. Where is this one at?
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Jules53757 posted Sun, 21 February 2016 at 9:51 AM
IceEmpress posted at 4:50PM Sun, 21 February 2016 - #4256432
Which still does not fit the new TOS, which says NO LINKING TO ANYTHING EXTERNAL, not even for youtube videos or to free tutorials on like-- a blog or something.
Sorry, but the TOS states:
"Additionally, offsite linking to other marketplaces or freestuff sites are not allowed within the forum, gallery, or forum signatures. For example: Links to competing stores like Daz3d.com, RuntimeDNA.com, etc are not allowed. However, links to non-competing stores like Etsy.com or Ebay.com are acceptable."
everything else is not true!
Ulli
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JVRenderer posted Sun, 21 February 2016 at 10:53 AM
I need to ask this as well.
It stated off site linking not allowed. Can you type in the URL without making it active. Is that allowed? Technically it is not linked directly. Folks still have to copy and paste the URL. I just want to be cleared on this. I have some renders I want to post. I'm putting them on hold for now until the final decisions are made by the staff and the TOS is in order.
On a site note, We had some members in the pass that were very helpful, especially to newbies finding items within or outside this site. (Littledragon, Linda), That era is gone now. With these new rules, even if we veterans want to help, it'll be more effort. I still don't understand the logic of all these restrictions. With the veterans contributing members gone (Snarly, BB, Laurie to name a few) these tasks will fall on the shoulders of the coords, mods, and admins. Is this the new direction Rendo wants in the future?
I wish the staff all the luck. JV
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Jules53757 posted Sun, 21 February 2016 at 11:20 AM
IMO it is still possible to direct to a freebie or a tut as long it is not a direct link, just my 2 cents.
Ulli
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IceEmpress posted Sun, 21 February 2016 at 5:17 PM
Not if the freebie is on dropbox, googledrive, or skydrive it isn't.
JVRenderer posted Sun, 21 February 2016 at 5:27 PM
Jules53757 posted at 3:25PM Sun, 21 February 2016 - #4256493
IMO it is still possible to direct to a freebie or a tut as long it is not a direct link, just my 2 cents.
I've posted that question and spoke to a mod : non active links are okay (non clickable links) but I want and officially statement before I draw any conclusions.
JV
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IceEmpress posted Sun, 21 February 2016 at 6:39 PM
I've posted that question and spoke to a mod : non active links are okay (non clickable links) but I want and officially statement before I draw any conclusions.
Weird. I don't get why non-active links would be an exception unless it's a bandwidth issue or legal issue (some people do not want other sites hotlinking to theirs)
LPR001 posted Mon, 22 February 2016 at 9:00 PM
IceEmpress posted at 1:19PM Tue, 23 February 2016 - #4256596
Not if the freebie is on dropbox, googledrive, or skydrive it isn't.
I am trying to address some of these concerns IE and I know you have put in a fair amount of time raising several points of interest over these issues throughout various threads. I have added this one and a few others of yours to the list. I will be covering them in a thread. Thanks for you input
- Johnny G
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lpr001@renderosity.com
LPR001 posted Tue, 23 February 2016 at 8:43 AM
IceEmpress posted at 1:08AM Wed, 24 February 2016 - #4256432
Which still does not fit the new TOS, which says NO LINKING TO ANYTHING EXTERNAL, not even for youtube videos or to free tutorials on like-- a blog or something.
? Can you provide link please
I am looking at this one below which is taken from the current version available from the about section at bottom of page which does not seem to match your version.
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3dcheapskate posted Thu, 25 February 2016 at 11:49 PM
Since Hope's "New Direction With Freestuff Area" thread is locked and I can't quote it I've copied a bit of it below:
"Hi everyone-
In the TOS, we now have a new addition that states we no longer accept off-site links. So, unfortunately, you're unable to post off-site freebies. That may come as a disappointment and shock to some, but we'd really like you to start focusing more on linking to YOUR FAVORITE FREEBIES from OUR site. We've seen a decline in freestuff uploads and we'd like to get that back up. Therefore, please share your favorite freebies HERE..."
I've been posting freebies for several years. My first freebie was posted at ShareCG, and I started an associated thread in the Renderosity FreeStuff forum - BobbyStahr pointed out that I could also post the freebie itself here.
Since then I've posted just about everything both at ShareCG and here at Renderosity.
For the past couple of years I've found that I far prefer ShareCG.
The only reason that I still post here at Renderosity is that not doing so would feel petulant and childish. (But I do sit back and quietly applaud those who have removed their freebies from Renderosity)
Why do I prefer ShareCG? https://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/?search=&expression=advanced&older_age=1&older_units=day&newer_age=&newer_units=day&adv_department=12357&username=3dcheapskate
The 3Dcheapskate* occasionally posts sensible stuff. Usually by accident.
And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.
*also available in ShareCG, DAZ, and HiveWire3D flavours (the DeviantArt and CGBytes flavour have been discontinued).
EldritchCellar posted Fri, 26 February 2016 at 12:48 AM
That's a pretty damn fine illustration of why you won't find my freestuff here 3dcheapskate. Just the promo limitations, must be 300x350, must be 800 pixels nonsense is enough. Why would anyone go through those bizarre hassles when they don't have to? Not to mention the countless other annoyances...
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JVRenderer posted Sat, 27 February 2016 at 7:42 PM
EldritchCellar posted at 5:40PM Sat, 27 February 2016 - #4257546
That's a pretty damn fine illustration of why you won't find my freestuff here 3dcheapskate. Just the promo limitations, must be 300x350, must be 800 pixels nonsense is enough. Why would anyone go through those bizarre hassles when they don't have to? Not to mention the countless other annoyances...
I really don't understand why contributors to the community have to bend over backward to give and to help. It totally defies logic... We must be real masochists.
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EldritchCellar posted Sat, 27 February 2016 at 7:57 PM
I give up. I'll still upload freebies to the community... for selfish reasons. everybody hates me in this community. Gallery deleted. I won't delete my account, again for selfish reasons. Fuck it. Anybody interested in communicating with me, I might respond at sharecg or cgbytes. But I doubt it.
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IceEmpress posted Mon, 29 February 2016 at 10:30 AM
Wow. In the other thread, LPR and Wheatpenny insist that it's okay to link to trusted external sites so long as they are not freebies or 3D marketplaces (acceptable examples including Amazon and Youtube) They state that they don't understand how there can be so much confusion over this. When I tell them that I don't believe this until there is an official announcement made, they tell me that they will try to get Hope to make an announcement about it (which I do greatly appreciate, guys, just to clarify)
Instead, she locks the topics and tells us to sitemail us. No announcement. Claims there is "nothing more to discuss"
Result: more people are leaving. Not helpful, at all.
I question the wisdom of the "PM me" policy. Whatever it is you have to say should be announced publicly-- I can't imagine anything that should not be announced.
3dcheapskate posted Tue, 01 March 2016 at 12:06 AM
EldritchCellar posted at 12:45PM Tue, 01 March 2016 - #4257546
That's a pretty damn fine illustration of why you won't find my freestuff here 3dcheapskate. Just the promo limitations, must be 300x350, must be 800 pixels nonsense is enough. Why would anyone go through those bizarre hassles when they don't have to? Not to mention the countless other annoyances...
Why indeed? My only excuse is a rather bizarre sense of humour, a dash of obstinacy, and a sprinkling of masochism ... ;o)
JVRenderer posted at 12:47PM Tue, 01 March 2016 - #4257953
EldritchCellar posted at 5:40PM Sat, 27 February 2016 - #4257546
I really don't understand why contributors to the community have to bend over backward to give and to help. It totally defies logic... We must be real masochists.
I think I've bent over backwards so far that I've disappeared you-know-where ! LOL
EldritchCellar posted at 12:49PM Tue, 01 March 2016 - #4257955
I give up. I'll still upload freebies to the community... for selfish reasons. everybody hates me in this community. Gallery deleted. I won't delete my account, again for selfish reasons.
Don't give up - if you do the evil goblins win ! (add that as another reason I still post here).
IceEmpress posted at 12:56PM Tue, 01 March 2016 - #4258235
Wow. In the other thread, LPR and Wheatpenny insist that it's okay to link to trusted external sites so long as they are not freebies or 3D marketplaces (acceptable examples including Amazon and Youtube) They state that they don't understand how there can be so much confusion over this. When I tell them that I don't believe this until there is an official announcement made, they tell me that they will try to get Hope to make an announcement about it (which I do greatly appreciate, guys, just to clarify)
Instead, she locks the topics and tells us to sitemail us. No announcement. Claims there is "nothing more to discuss"
Result: more people are leaving. Not helpful, at all.
I question the wisdom of the "PM me" policy. Whatever it is you have to say should be announced publicly-- I can't imagine anything that should not be announced.
I think can understand Hope's response - when you have have evil goblins on one side telling you to explain 'policy' to the villagers, and angry villager with pitchforks and fiery torches banging on the doors, it's no wonder that Hope has locked herself in a tower!
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3dcheapskate posted Tue, 01 March 2016 at 12:45 AM
IceEmpress posted at 1:41PM Tue, 01 March 2016 - #4258235
Wow. In the other thread, LPR and Wheatpenny insist that it's okay to link to trusted external sites so long as they are not freebies or 3D marketplaces...
Which other thread?
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IceEmpress posted Tue, 01 March 2016 at 3:29 AM
The Open Letter thread and I can't remember the other one.
3dcheapskate posted Tue, 01 March 2016 at 8:07 AM
Ah.... Ivy's open letter.
One last try at explaining why I personally think it is a PITA uploading FreeStuff here, just in case anyone with any clout at Renderosity is paying any attention.
Uploading freebies at ShareCG is a pleasure. It's simple, it's straightforward. I can upload several promo images. The amount of text allowed in the description is usually sufficient (there have been a couple of cases when I've had to cut it down to fit). When I report a problem they usually fix it within a day or so (Admittedly I have a feature request from a long time ago that they haven't accepted, but every few months I remind them. One out of god knows how many - I'll let that go).
Uploading freebies here at Renderosity... where to begin?
I think, way back when, it used to be simple and straightforward.
Unlike ShareCG you could only upload one promo image - but that never used to be a problem. It's a huge PITA for me now.
Unlike ShareCG the character limit on the description was far too short - but that never used to be a problem. It's a huge PITA for me now.
Why are those two things such a problem now when they weren't a problem back then?
I'll let you think about that for a while.
Here's a clue - what's changed?
While that little conundrum is churning in the back of your minds, here's what I usually do when I release a freebie nowadays:
7a) With luck I'm then taken to the main FreeStuff homepage, which is Renderosity code for "your freestuff item has been successfully uploaded".Iirc it doesn't actually say that anywhere on the page I'm taken to though .
7b) More often than not though the upload fails because the description is too long. Rather than try to cut the description down to fit I now simply add the URLs of the ShareCG page and DAZ thread instead.
Here's what I used to do:
Spotted the difference? Posting to the Renderosity forums has become a total PITA over the past few years. Even now, even after all the forum bug reports I've made via the Community Center forum, I hate posting here at Renderosity. It seems that almost every post I make ends up being incorrectly formatted. I haven't bothered creating any new Renderosity FreeStuff threads for a long time. You probably haven't removed any of the meticulously setup cross-posted links from my Renderosity FreeStuff thread to your competitor DAZ3D yet, because you probably haven't bothered looking that far back. Remove them if you want - your reasons for doing so would be totally spurious and invalid. And that may be the final straw for me - maybe I will throw my rattle and toys out of my pram after all
On the other hand you could try using a bit of common sense - I'm sure a few people on staff here at Renderosity still have some of that...
(and yes, yet again, as expected, the formatting of this post as all up the creek and I have 10 minutes to fix it all...)
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And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.
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EldritchCellar posted Tue, 01 March 2016 at 12:17 PM
That's hilarious as usual Pete. Woops... back to sticking my nose in the air. I like Kobolds more than Goblins incidentally. Spriggans are pretty cool too..
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3dcheapskate posted Tue, 01 March 2016 at 10:12 PM
EldritchCellar posted at 10:07AM Wed, 02 March 2016 - #4258541
That's hilarious as usual Pete. Woops... back to sticking my nose in the air. I like Kobolds more than Goblins incidentally. Spriggans are pretty cool too..
I hope there's still somebody at Renderosity with a sense of humour... ;o)
I think the evil goblins running amok within the bowels of Renderosity are at the bottom of most peoples 'Like' list, but my favourite creature at the moment is this guy...
TheDireMightyFiend.jpg .... I tried uploading the image again you'll find it at the bottom right of this post - I'm laughing so much I'm in tears! About the number of times I've had to edit this post, and it's still not right, and the edit will timeout before I can fix it...
...I think you know him? I used to have a leatherbound copy of the book this picture's from, and I recently found the whole thing on Project Gutenberg (yes, the picture is public domain). I'm absolutely 100% sure that Project Gutenberg will fall into the category of 'trusted websites' so I'm including the link below
Hero-Myths & Legends of the British Race, by Maud Isabel Ebbutt
I think you'll appreciate the short passages of his story that are given in a more metrical (as in poetic) style? _"This the dire mighty fiend, he who in darkness dwelt, Suffered with hatred fierce, that every day and night, He heard the festal shouts, loud in the lofty hall..." _ - just the rhythym of that has always brought me out in goosebumps!
**(err...what's happened to in-line images?)
(and yet again the forum software totally 's up the formatting of my post)**
(why does 'quoted' text appear more prominently than the actual text of the post? This is totally... actually words fail me )
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EldritchCellar posted Wed, 02 March 2016 at 2:45 AM
Funny, that whole Beowulf discussion at DNA made me look further into depictions of tragic Grendel. Never ran across that one. Thanks for the link. Also love all that archaic monster art... northern renaissance, woodcuts, engravings etc.
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3dcheapskate posted Thu, 03 March 2016 at 4:03 AM
Hang on a mo'... are you're trying to turn this into a conversation about art ?! ;o)
I'm sure I've seen some of those 'pictures of demons' before, when I was a kid. Freaked me out! There was also a black and white print of a wolf/werewolf, completely different style, that scared the life out of me and gave me nightmares for years. Probably from an old book of fairytales or mythology. May have been Fenrir...
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3dcheapskate posted Thu, 03 March 2016 at 9:49 PM
Found it via google > wikipedia, Odin and Fenris. <-- I'm assuming that links to Wikipedia are okay?
Still sends a shiver up my spine !
(Just checked the ToS again, and there's no prohibition on "stuff that'll give kids nightmares"!)
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And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.
*also available in ShareCG, DAZ, and HiveWire3D flavours (the DeviantArt and CGBytes flavour have been discontinued).
3dcheapskate posted Sat, 05 March 2016 at 3:25 AM
Steering this thread back on-topic, sort of...
It was only after reading IceEmpress' 20th Feb post in LaurieA's "For those interested..." thread...
...that the word 'product' in Hope's 18th Feb "New Direction With Freestuff Area" post...
...struck me as odd.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and I'm really hoping that it was just a poor choice of word by Hope, rather than a Freudian slip. But "New direction" along with "so members can download and use your products" plus IceEmpress' observation might steer one's thoughts along the wrong path?
Can somebody from Renderosity staff categorically state that "it is NOT Renderosity's intention to ONLY allow vendor-created freebies in the FreeStuff section" ?
. . . .
I also noticed that Adam Thwaites' 2009 "Renderosity FreeStuff - Allow External Hosting Petition" has been locked some time over the past two months or so (i.e. since 25th Dec 2015). I don't think I'd ever noticed it before (I don't usually look at this forum) and I have to say that...
"I support this petition."
. . . .
I can accept that some of the reasons for concern about off-site links may have valid bases, but a blanket ban is not the solution.
I (rather my alter ego with the money) voted with my wallet a few years back and stopped spending money here (I never spent much, so it wouldn't have had any real impact).
If it wasn't for the fact that there are still a few helpful and friendly in various forums I would have abandoned the Renderosity forums altogether.
I still post pictures in my gallery here because there are a few people who seem to share my somewhat askew view of things.
But as far as Renderosity FreeStuff is concerned I've finally decided that it's time to vote with my feet by removing my freebies.
Please remember that it is the vendors, buyers, and staff who make the store.
But it is the contributors (i.e. anybody who interacts with the non-commercial parts of the site, the forums, galleries and freestuff, including mods, admins, and coordinators) many of whom, but by no means all, may be vendors, buyers and/or staff who make the community.
Please Renderosity: When you're in a hole stop digging !
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And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.
*also available in ShareCG, DAZ, and HiveWire3D flavours (the DeviantArt and CGBytes flavour have been discontinued).
EldritchCellar posted Sun, 06 March 2016 at 9:14 AM
Ot. That Fenris image is pretty cool, I've never seen it until now. Which kind of surprises me since I've loved Northern myth and folklore since I was a kid. Here's an image that I have strong recollections of from childhood; Siegfried slaying the Dragon...
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3dcheapskate posted Mon, 07 March 2016 at 12:18 AM
I've started a new "Pictures That Got Deeply Etched Into Your Subconcious As A Kid ?" thread in The Dead End Zone at RDNA for continuing with the interesting stuff 
(obviously no link to that but it's on the RDNA website > Community > Forums > The Dead End Zone ... right down at the bottom)
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And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.
*also available in ShareCG, DAZ, and HiveWire3D flavours (the DeviantArt and CGBytes flavour have been discontinued).
3dcheapskate posted Mon, 07 March 2016 at 12:32 AM
I can confirm* that in the "Description" field of a FreeStuff upload it is now NOT permitted to include a non-clickable URL to an associated DAZ thread, NOR is it permitted to include a non-clickable URL to an an alternative download at ShareCG.
* from experience over the weekend - after deleting all my freestuff I re-uploaded a single item, mainly so that anybody who looks at my freestuff page doesn't just see that "! The user has not uploaded any freestuff items", but can read that my freebies are still at ShareCG.
The 3Dcheapskate* occasionally posts sensible stuff. Usually by accident.
And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.
*also available in ShareCG, DAZ, and HiveWire3D flavours (the DeviantArt and CGBytes flavour have been discontinued).
3dcheapskate posted Mon, 07 March 2016 at 1:10 AM
EricofSD posted at 1:39PM Mon, 07 March 2016 - #4255937
If I recall correctly, DAZ has the same policy. Click on a freebie and it comes from DAZ, not some other site.
The old DAZ Freepozitory (now the "Freebies" forum, fourth down in the right hand column under General) is a forum with the specific purpose of linking to members freebies on other sites.
RDNA's Community Showcase forum is the same - a forum with the specific purpose of linking to members freebies on other sites.
(N.B. It's only PA freebies in the DAZ Store (or "12 Days Of Christmas", etc, type PA freebies) that are hosted on the DAZ site)
The 3Dcheapskate* occasionally posts sensible stuff. Usually by accident.
And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.
*also available in ShareCG, DAZ, and HiveWire3D flavours (the DeviantArt and CGBytes flavour have been discontinued).
EldritchCellar posted Mon, 07 March 2016 at 7:29 AM
I can also confirm that the Daz freestuff forum allows external links. My Missus figure and ShareCG link was just "officially" added to the Free Human Figures database over there. CGbytes also allows linking and has a general user freestuff area, users may attach .zip and various other file types to posts there, attachment file size is about 25 mb. Site admin at CGBytes stated that the freestuff forum there is a "free for all" zone, in that attachments are not evaluated in an official capacity. There is also a QA tested marketplace freebie catagory that members may submit to. So... Renderosity does not allow attachments nor does it allow linking. A severely hobbled user experience when compared to other sites, even the most restrictive ones.
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tonyvilters posted Fri, 18 March 2016 at 8:51 AM
I removed all my freestuff from here a long time ago. Every day I think that was the best move I ever did.
Not only are all the forums broken, the freestuff and marketplace a complete mess now.
All items are thrown on a big pile , no way to seach by app, by figure, by hair, by texture, NOTHING of the good old and end user friendly is left.
No clue where Renderosity is going to end up, but it is going downhill at an alarming speed.
A few years ago, Ioved this place. Now I take a peek, see no changes or improvements, and leave.
tonyvilters posted Fri, 18 March 2016 at 8:54 AM
You wonder why nobody uploads freebies here any more?
Fix the site forums, fix the freestuff area, and fix the marketplace back to "end user friendly", and the freebies will come back automatically.
Lyne posted Fri, 25 March 2016 at 12:39 PM
This: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2899703
is just another way you are alienating your user base! I am crushed! For YEARS I have had my "Lyne's Creations" freebies linked here... NOTHING for sale, just on my website...and now it's "illegal"... I would never upload my freestuff to create "forced" (ie: people HAVE to be a member and sign in to download) traffic to YOUR website.
Having my freebies PERMANENTLY on my own web site (even after I die!) is a part of ME, my legacy and will remain with my website as long as my person(s) keep my website/legacy alive for me... I've supported Renderosity for a VERY VERY long time and slowly you have been choking our freedoms here down... being so SELF-CENTERED... pretty soon you will remove any gallery image with any MENTION (UN-LINKED name only credit) of another store... and chasing more of us away...
I feel sick... my freebies have been a source of joy....and I've carefully linked the item under a gallery image to MY section here and felt so proud of it...and sent people here, visiting YOUR forum- encouraging, thanking me, CARING ABOUT HOW I'M DOING... showing appreciation...
Well, I'm now THIS close to removing myself COMPLETELY from YOUR ISOLATED WORLD... I've been here since 2002 for heaven's sakes!!! "Live linking" in 95% of the cases to YOUR store items, supporting you... I have a link to YOUR website on my own front page, have had for years!!!! (will remove it today) and seriously consider removing my entire HUGE gallery.
Thanks a lot Rendo, for being so self serving and hard hearted!! I'm angry and I'm hurt!
Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!
IceEmpress posted Sat, 26 March 2016 at 2:45 AM
You'd think that this would be a wakeup call, but if the loss LaurieA, SnarlyGribbly, and 3DCheapskate haven't pulled the upper management's/TPtB's heads out from you-know-where, nothing will.
In the meantime, the forum admins here are busting their backsides, trying to find any way-- ANY possible way to fix a problem that they are utterly helpless to do anything about.
Lyne posted Tue, 29 March 2016 at 12:41 PM
EnglishBob just informed me at my new home, that the threads are NOT gone, BUT are LOCKED- meaning what...they SORT OF allow outside links, but don't allow folks to respond with a thank you, or how are you doing?!?! My thread was filled with comments of caring and kindness for me, and had really helped me just cheer up... but now they removed "me" from the Stickies and locked my thread from any comments... I am just not happy here anymore...so I will still be deleting my gallery... it's been a lot of work for me, as I cared, posting the 'live link credits' with my artwork because it was the RIGHT thing to do... me caring about a site that really does not care about me... just seems unbalanced?
Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!
EnglishBob posted Wed, 30 March 2016 at 4:30 AM
Lyne, I appear to have misled you. Your Renderosity Freestuff thread is here: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2841076 and as far as I can tell it isn't locked.
Your original statement that the rules no longer allow linking to external sites is correct. The rule change is announced here: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2899703 and endlessly debated in this very thread. :)
I count three threads that have been locked because they contain external links, but as I said the links still work. These threads were posted before the rules changed, so in effect their posters have been punished for breaking a rule that wasn't in force at the time.
When you switched off an old-fashioned TV, the picture shrank to a small dot in the centre of the screen. I hope the symbolism of my avatar will not be lost on those who remember the old times. :)
