Boni opened this issue on Jan 12, 2016 · 101 posts
Boni posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 7:00 AM
Could you please add you name to this thread if you are having problems receiving e-bots (notifications) about posts in the forums? We would really appreciate it. I can let the admins know how far this goes.
Boni
"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork
bagginsbill posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 7:04 AM
Me. And I think there is a problem with what the admins hear or are told. Let me be clear about it.
e-bots regarding brand new threads (such as I just got about this thread) work perfectly. My subscription to the forum as a whole is working exactly as it should be.
e-bots regarding the first response after I respond in a thread work (as far as I can tell).
This e-bot does NOT work:
After I return to a thread and read what someone said, I never get another e-bot, even if I respond some more to the thread.
Since that is a "conversation", it is the conversations that have stopped dead here. It is the give and take I actually come to the forum for that is gone.
Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)
bagginsbill posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 7:07 AM
So - here's the problem written as a communication from one software developer to another.
You have to reset the e-bot flag on a thread when I READ it. You're not doing that. You're only setting the flag when I WRITE into the thread.
More specifically, the act of displaying the exact post that triggered my last e-bot should set the e-bot flag for me on that thread once again.
Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)
bagginsbill posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 7:10 AM
So - for each thread that I subscribe to, there needs to be
When somebody posts to a thread, you sweep all the subscriptions to that thread where the e-bot flag is true, and send them an e-bot, and turn the flag off, and store the new post # into their subscription object.
When they come to read anything, if they read and display the indicated post # and the e-bot flag is off, turn it on again.
Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)
bagginsbill posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 7:11 AM
In case my dripping scorn is not sufficiently evident, I could build and test the above data structure and algorithm in less than 15 minutes. It should have been done months and months ago.
Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)
WandW posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 7:23 AM
I get them very irregularly. Here's a list of all of the notices I've gotten lately, in case it's helpful; the timestamps can be compared with the last post in the threads.....
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bagginsbill posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 7:27 AM
I got an e-bot regarding WandW's post. Now I will not get another one, ever.
Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)
WandW posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 8:14 AM
Likewise, I got one from Ted's post...
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RorrKonn posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 8:18 AM
You can add RorrKonn to the list
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WandW posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 8:27 AM
Hey, I got one for RK's post...
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bagginsbill posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 8:38 AM
I did not get one for RK, but I did for W&W reacting to getting one for RK. So messed up.
Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)
WandW posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 11:37 AM
I got a notice of Ted's reply in this thread, but none for his replies in the RMP Survey thread (which was moved here from the Community Forum for some unfathomable reason), nor did I get one for the reply to the Genesis 3 in Poser thread...
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bagginsbill posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 11:40 AM
OK this is hugely ironic. Whenever W&W posts IN THIS THREAD ONLY, I get an ebot.
Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)
DustRider posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 11:47 AM
Add my name to the list of those who get "irregular" notifications.
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WandW posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 11:53 AM
bagginsbill posted at 12:51PM Tue, 12 January 2016 - #4248745
OK this is hugely ironic. Whenever W&W posts IN THIS THREAD ONLY, I get an ebot.
Maybe they only work on Massachusetts residents... :)
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hornet3d posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 12:48 PM
Yep add me to the list of very infrequent ebots.
I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 - Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU . The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.
Kalypso posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 2:33 PM Site Admin
Add me as well. Subscribing to a thread does not work, replying sometimes works but it's like 20% of the time. Interestingly enough, subscribing to a forum works and I get an e-bot for every new posting but that's not as much a priority for me as getting e-bots to specific threads.
RorrKonn posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 4:09 PM
for me it seems if I post a comment. I'll get 1 ebot fore just the next poster but no ebots for the 5 to 15 or how ever many that posted after the 1st poster .I'll get no more ebots until I post again. & I'll get 1 ebot fore just the next poster but no ebots for the 5 to 15 or how ever many that posted after the 1st poster .
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Latexluv posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 5:41 PM
Add me to the list. I haven't been getting ebots to the threads I've replied too for months
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Latexluv posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 5:44 PM
P.S. When Boni replied to the old thread that I made, "Nylon Material", I did NOT get an ebot!
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Poser Pro 2012, SR2, Paintshop Pro 8
WandW posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 8:39 PM
I got a notice for hornet3D's post, none afterward...
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rokket posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 9:24 PM
Add me. I get them, but most of the time, they are irregular and usually after I go back into a thread and read where I left off and several people have responded to the thread.
And most days, I only get notified when someone posts in the gallery.
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722 posted Tue, 12 January 2016 at 9:30 PM
Yep me to
EnglishBob posted Wed, 13 January 2016 at 6:12 AM
I reported this in June last year, although it had been going on for some time previously. I included a detailed account of how to replicate the problem. I need not have bothered.
Boni posted Wed, 13 January 2016 at 6:25 AM
Englishbob: could you repost what you said to replicate the problem. I'm going to present this thread to the community manager in a couple days ... I want to let the list get a bit longer first.
Boni
"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork
EnglishBob posted Wed, 13 January 2016 at 6:49 AM
My original post is here, but it's rather long-winded. Bagginsbill's first posts in this thread describe the problem quite well, but the easiest way to demonstrate it is simply to subscribe to a thread that looks as if it will have plenty of replies (you know the sort, I'm sure...). You'll get an ebot for the first reply, but never any more unless you manually unsubscribe and then re-subscribe; or if you post a reply.
The same thing will happen if you reply to a thread and check the 'Notify me' option. You'll be automatically subscribed but only ever get one ebot.
I would ladle on some dripping scorn of my own, but BB does it much better than I. :)
bagginsbill posted Wed, 13 January 2016 at 7:13 AM
I would add that sometimes unsubscribe + resubscribe does not get me one more e-bot. However, if I don't post a response or don't resubscribe, it is certain I will not get an e-bot. Reading a thread NEVER triggers a new e-bot.
Boni you don't need to wait a long time. Give my algorithm to the "programmer" (term used extremely loosely here) and either he won't get, it in which case I'm getting the fuck out of here, or he says "oh - right - ok" and fixes it.
Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)
bagginsbill posted Wed, 13 January 2016 at 7:19 AM
Yesterday I was asked to fix a bug. One of the other programmers I work with had modified a piece of Javascript to detect a special status code, 498, that we use to tell clients the authentication token had expired or was otherwise no longer valid.
He insisted he DID check for it. And yet it was not working. He distinctly remembered adding the check. But it was not doing what he thought he told it to do. Here's the code.
if (xhr.status == 401 || response.status == 498) { oops("Error: Please log in again");
The problem here is the programmer thinks he knows what he said. But he said "response.status", which happens to exist, but is not where the 498 is. It should have said
if (xhr.status == 401 || xhr.status == 498)
This subtle difference between mental model and actual program is largely the cause of such failures. I say this to you not to say this is actually happening, but if the "programmer" believes he knows what is happening, and this belief is factually inaccurate, you can't tell. His conviction that he knows what is happening is unshakeable.
If the "programmer" here thinks there is no problem, he needs to get somebody else to review the code, as I did for my colleague.
Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)
EnglishBob posted Wed, 13 January 2016 at 5:58 PM
bagginsbill posted at 11:55PM Wed, 13 January 2016 - #4248868
I would add that sometimes unsubscribe + resubscribe does not get me one more e-bot.
I had an impression that I may occasionally not have received an ebot even after toggling my subscription, but I couldn't be 100% certain that I'd really remembered to do it. Even when the forum worked, the ebots sometimes went on holiday, after all.
Latexluv posted Wed, 13 January 2016 at 6:12 PM
Please, please, forward BB's comments and information to the programmer. He knows what he is talking about. I only received one ebot for this thread yesterday and it was about the person who replied right after my comments. After that, nothing.
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Poser Pro 2012, SR2, Paintshop Pro 8
LaurieA posted Thu, 14 January 2016 at 11:03 AM
I get an ebot for the creation of the thread, but posting in the thread doesn't even guarantee I'll get another ebot. I never get another ebot after that from any thread. I have to go back and look for replies. Pretty pathetic considering I only subscribe to one forum now.
Laurie
bopperthijs posted Thu, 14 January 2016 at 11:44 AM
Add me as well, I don't get any E-bots at all.
-How can you improve things when you don't make mistakes?
shvrdavid posted Thu, 14 January 2016 at 9:08 PM
While I completely agree with what BB has said, I don't think that is going to happen.
What totally boggles me is how EBot's are so messed up in the first place. The module should already know how to do exactly what BB outlined.
EBot modules, like Drupal Notify for example, are stupid easy to set up........... In just about every Ebot module, what BB described is nothing more than the notify new content setting being turned off......
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EldritchCellar posted Thu, 14 January 2016 at 9:57 PM
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tonyvilters posted Fri, 15 January 2016 at 4:21 PM
Rarely if at all. Sorry Boni, but it is hopeless.
3dcheapskate posted Sun, 17 January 2016 at 10:56 PM
Me too. Not sure if it's consistent or sporadic, but I didn't get (or to be more accurate, I'm fairly sure I didn't get) ebots for rorrkonn or moriadors posts on the Preventing Edges On Architectural Etc Models Being Too Sharp In Poser thread that I started yesterday. But I've been looking at and posting to that thread quite frequently - I cross-posted with rorrkonn, but moriador posted yesterday evening, and the first time I looked at the thread since then was around 2am UTC this morning (Mon 18th)
The 3Dcheapskate* occasionally posts sensible stuff. Usually by accident.
And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.
*also available in ShareCG, DAZ, and HiveWire3D flavours (the DeviantArt and CGBytes flavour have been discontinued).
Boni posted Tue, 19 January 2016 at 6:21 AM
I've been told that several of you have been contacted personally and that this is being worked on. Thank you for your information on this issue. You all have been very helpful.
Boni
"Be Hero to Yourself" -- Peter Tork
bagginsbill posted Tue, 19 January 2016 at 11:20 AM
The site mysteriously unsubscribed me from this thread. So - add another bug to the list. Spontaneous unsubscription.
Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)
WandW posted Tue, 19 January 2016 at 12:07 PM
Still hit or miss for the threads I'm subscribed to; I haven't gotten one for replies to this thread for days...
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LaurieA posted Tue, 19 January 2016 at 12:11 PM
bagginsbill posted at 1:10PM Tue, 19 January 2016 - #4250143
The site mysteriously unsubscribed me from this thread. So - add another bug to the list. Spontaneous unsubscription.
facepalm
RorrKonn posted Tue, 19 January 2016 at 2:08 PM
bagginsbill posted at 3:07PM Tue, 19 January 2016 - #4250143
The site mysteriously unsubscribed me from this thread. So - add another bug to the list. Spontaneous unsubscription.
oh wait I've been unsubscribed from all the threads I was subscribed to.
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WandW posted Tue, 19 January 2016 at 2:10 PM
I've been using the Is Poser Dying thread as a test bed; it appears I only get then for the first post after I post, but none thereafter.
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"Oh - the manual says that? I have never read the manual - this must be why."
LaurieA posted Tue, 19 January 2016 at 2:51 PM
We should all know by now about the dangers of asking Rendo to "fix" things....fix one and break half a dozen. LOL
Laurie
Latexluv posted Tue, 19 January 2016 at 7:39 PM
No ebots from this thread at all after my initial replies and it appears I was also unsubscribed to this thread.
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Weapons of choice:
Poser Pro 2012, SR2, Paintshop Pro 8
WandW posted Tue, 19 January 2016 at 8:18 PM
And I've become unsubscribed since my last visit to this thread...
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3dcheapskate posted Tue, 19 January 2016 at 8:27 PM
WandW posted at 9:19AM Wed, 20 January 2016 - #4250210
I've been using the Is Poser Dying thread as a test bed; it appears I only get then for the first post after I post, but none thereafter.
That rings a bell... don't some forums (DAZ?) send an ebot along the lines of "there's a new reply to such-and-such a thread. You won't get any more notifications for further replies till you visit the thread." I'd guess that when you subscribe it sets a flag. When the first reply is made it ebots you and clears the flag. When you visit the thread (logged in of course) it sets the flag again. (Of course there'd be more to it, but maybe that's what Renderosity is trying to do here?)
The 3Dcheapskate* occasionally posts sensible stuff. Usually by accident.
And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.
*also available in ShareCG, DAZ, and HiveWire3D flavours (the DeviantArt and CGBytes flavour have been discontinued).
Latexluv posted Tue, 19 January 2016 at 8:55 PM
I did not receive an ebot for 3dcheapskate's reply. I SHOULD receive an ebot for every reply to a thread I have made a comment in. This is how it used to be before the site changes began over the last year or so. This needs to be fixed!
"A lonely climber walks a tightrope to where dreams are born and never die!" - Billy Thorpe, song: Edge of Madness, album: East of Eden's Gate
Weapons of choice:
Poser Pro 2012, SR2, Paintshop Pro 8
LaurieA posted Tue, 19 January 2016 at 9:11 PM
@3dcheapskate
it's not that we're getting an ebot and then no more until we come back and visit the thread again. That would be what we'd want ;). What's happening is, we post then we get an ebot for the next thread post. When we come back and look at the thread, we SHOULD get another ebot for anything that comes after. We aren't. We're getting further ebots only if we ourselves post again. If we don't make another post, there are no more ebots, whether the thread has had replies since we last visited or not ;). It's only resetting the flag when we POST, not when we visit.
Hope that made sense.
Laurie
RorrKonn posted Wed, 20 January 2016 at 10:45 PM
I got automatically unsubscribe from these post.
Preventing Edges On Architectural Etc Models Being Too Sharp In Poser .post
&
Help me brainstorm this. .post
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bagginsbill posted Fri, 22 January 2016 at 6:27 AM
I just answered a question in a new thread. The checkbox to "Notify me when someone replies" was selected. Yet - after posting, I was NOT subscribed to that thread.
This is yet another bug.
Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)
Latexluv posted Fri, 22 January 2016 at 7:44 AM
Same here. The problems about Ebots has not be solved at all.
"A lonely climber walks a tightrope to where dreams are born and never die!" - Billy Thorpe, song: Edge of Madness, album: East of Eden's Gate
Weapons of choice:
Poser Pro 2012, SR2, Paintshop Pro 8
LaurieA posted Fri, 22 January 2016 at 9:13 AM
Latexluv posted at 10:12AM Fri, 22 January 2016 - #4250606
Same here. The problems about Ebots has not be solved at all.
but it seems we DO have some new ones. Urgh.
Laurie
prixat posted Fri, 22 January 2016 at 10:46 AM
I suppose being unsubscribed from threads is, technically speaking, a solution to the 'no ebots' problem.
regards
prixat
bagginsbill posted Fri, 22 January 2016 at 12:24 PM
Since my last post I got an ebot for Latexluv's post, but not for Laurie or prixat. I read each anyway without an ebot. So - more evidence that there is a flag and that sometimes making a post sets it, but reading does not.
I got a sitemail PM from an admin regarding this topic. I am not permitted to quote PMs so I won't tell you what it says.
I will tell you that the "programmers" (please say with air quotes and rolling eyes) have not done anything about it yet, if I am to believe what I read.
Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)
bagginsbill posted Fri, 22 January 2016 at 12:26 PM
I would like to draw all your attention to my signature below. I made that threat 8 days ago. I wonder what I should choose for an actual deadline.
(For readers of the future, it says if they don't fix this soon, I'm out of here.)
Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)
Latexluv posted Fri, 22 January 2016 at 4:29 PM
I only received an ebot for the post right after my own but not for those following or Bagginsbill's posts. I have to leave for a few days for a family thing, I can hope it is fixed while I am gone but at this rate, I don't have a lot of confidence. Bagginsbill already stated how this problem could be fixed, I wish a programmer would actually look at this thread and read about it and then do it!
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Poser Pro 2012, SR2, Paintshop Pro 8
gmm2 posted Sat, 23 January 2016 at 1:02 AM
The thing about BB's fix is that it might not actually work in this situation. From what I'm hearing from some of the other staff, the e-bot issue may (and I can't stress this enough: may) be part of a larger issue, beyond the scope of a few lines of code.
Don't take may word as gospel on this as I'm not high-level staff, and please don't let this become a rumor, for good or ill. It is only what I've read from others.
LaurieA posted Sat, 23 January 2016 at 12:10 PM
gmm2 posted at 1:09PM Sat, 23 January 2016 - #4250743
The thing about BB's fix is that it might not actually work in this situation. From what I'm hearing from some of the other staff, the e-bot issue may (and I can't stress this enough: may) be part of a larger issue, beyond the scope of a few lines of code.
Don't take may word as gospel on this as I'm not high-level staff, and please don't let this become a rumor, for good or ill. It is only what I've read from others.
But you would think that a company that does websites for a living would know how to run this down and fix it. You would think. Apparently that ain't the case.
Laurie
3dcheapskate posted Sun, 24 January 2016 at 4:56 AM
gmm2 posted at 5:53PM Sun, 24 January 2016 - #4250743
The thing about BB's fix is that it might not actually work in this situation. From what I'm hearing from some of the other staff, the e-bot issue may (and I can't stress this enough: may) be part of a larger issue, beyond the scope of a few lines of code.
Don't take may word as gospel on this as I'm not high-level staff, and please don't let this become a rumor, for good or ill. It is only what I've read from others.
DAZ seem to be having a similar problem, e.g. the limited time freebies thread. Maybe these one-size-fits-all forum software(s) that everybody's using...
...well, maybe they don't. ;o)
The 3Dcheapskate* occasionally posts sensible stuff. Usually by accident.
And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.
*also available in ShareCG, DAZ, and HiveWire3D flavours (the DeviantArt and CGBytes flavour have been discontinued).
RorrKonn posted Sun, 24 January 2016 at 11:44 AM
a lot of forums problems these days is they need to work with so many different browsers for pc's phones etc etc.got to have the $$$ to pay for webmasters also.
I posted to new threads but wasn't automatically subscribed to the threads.
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Glen posted Sun, 24 January 2016 at 6:57 PM
Everything Bagginsbill said in his first four posts, including the miffed bit, minus the "I could do it" bit.
There, that's my input. I know I won't hear any more about it, and therein lies the problem, lol!
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RorrKonn posted Fri, 29 January 2016 at 9:37 PM
I keep getting automatically unsubscribed from threads. Think if ya edit your post might automatically unsubscribed you.
Ebots still don't work right either
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bagginsbill posted Sat, 30 January 2016 at 9:36 AM
I got unsubscribed again as well, RK.
This forum is completely bonkers. Threat level increased - it's been over two weeks since I made my ultimatum and more than a week since I've heard ANYTHING from staff.
DUDES! This is super important and you don't seem to recognize it. People don't know that others are posting. The result is traffic is DROPPING.
You added more advertisements, and now fewer people see them - did that make any sense? Any at all?
Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)
bagginsbill posted Sat, 30 January 2016 at 9:38 AM
I see a couple threads I should be posting in but I'm so disgusted I don't feel like it. Next thing you know, my images will start disappearing again like they did last year.
I'm not going to waste my time here.
Reiterating - If you have questions for me, DO NOT ASK HERE - I won't participate using this software and even if I want to I won't know you're talking.
Go to runtimedna to ask me stuff about lighting and shaders.
Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)
RorrKonn posted Sat, 30 January 2016 at 5:09 PM
Being this thread is so small ,apparently there's only a hand full of us that have bot problems.
Does the bots work right for most ?
Maybe buy the time this thread reaches page 100. bots will work right for every one.
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Latexluv posted Sun, 31 January 2016 at 1:43 AM
I was unsubscribed again and had to come here and see responses. I am NOT getting Ebots!!!!! Get this fixed! Not next year, but right now. People have been complaining about it long enough to have made an impact.
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RorrKonn posted Thu, 04 February 2016 at 1:45 AM
They won't notice till the signal fires get big enough
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EldritchCellar posted Thu, 04 February 2016 at 7:15 AM
I hate notifications. Lol. No seriously. I don't subscribe knowingly to any threads. I still get all these annoying notifications...
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DarthJ posted Thu, 04 February 2016 at 1:35 PM
Well, either nobody is interested in my freebies or the E-bots don't work.
ssgbryan posted Thu, 04 February 2016 at 6:31 PM
The ebots don't work.
EldritchCellar posted Thu, 04 February 2016 at 6:43 PM
Your freebie is plainly visible at ShareCG DarthJ. If you're talking about the freestuff here... you are in a shoving match with bras for Genesis. Nuff said.
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Latexluv posted Thu, 04 February 2016 at 6:59 PM
FIX THIS!!! I've been repeatedly unsubscribed to this thread. I still only get an ebot if someone directly replies to my post and then cricket song.
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RorrKonn posted Thu, 04 February 2016 at 8:34 PM
DarthJ maybe put a link to your free stuff in your signature like Death Metal does
6 pages of DarthJ killer FREE Meshes,no eBots required ;)
I would make the signature color different thou
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DarthJ posted Fri, 05 February 2016 at 8:05 AM
I made a link to the thread, not straight to the freebies at Sharecg which are visible enough according to the downloads. Needs work though : how do I change the link into a funny message ?
EldritchCellar posted Fri, 05 February 2016 at 8:41 AM
http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_links.asp
Not sure why you would sig link to such a transient thing as a single freebie thread when you have a whole rendo officially sanctioned sticky of your own here though. The thread will be buried in the sands of time in short notice, your sticky is permanent. ;)
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EldritchCellar posted Fri, 05 February 2016 at 8:58 AM
Nevermind... I see. Hope that link helps. :)
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RorrKonn posted Sat, 06 February 2016 at 5:53 PM
So anyone's eBots working right ?
I didn't get a eBot from the DSON Importer/Genesis 3 thread so mines still broke :(
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IsaoShi posted Sat, 06 February 2016 at 8:16 PM
Confirmed, Rendo forum eBots haven't worked at all for me for a long time. I think Gallery eBots are working though.
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shvrdavid posted Sun, 07 February 2016 at 1:44 AM
What does it really matter at this point? They are not going to fix it. Even after people point out issues, they obviously get round filed if they are not already fixed, not in the budget, etc. If there is truth in advertising, this forum paints an ugly picture of whoever wrote it.
I am pretty much done here as well. But what does that really matter??? Lots of other people are fed up with it and nothing gets done about it.. They don't appear to care a bit about people that have given freely to the community for years. It is like none of them exist anymore, and what they notice doesn't matter a bit. Out with the old, and in with the new. What they don't seem to realize s that you can't easily replace years of experience with new. You can forget doing it for free, it is going to cost one way or the other.
The forum issues here, are a small problem. After all, it only affects the forum users........... I doubt they make much money off the forums. So why would they invest any more time or money in it? It would appear, well, you can come to your own conclusions there.
There are substantial bugs in the forum code here. I have no idea whom that someone is, and you can bet they wont step up and tell us who they are either.
Don't believe me about the bugs? Then why is the this the most viewed thread in the Poser forum? (Bet you didn't realize it was did you !!!)
Nothing has changed much They will just keep pushing it on the MODs to thank people for reporting it, and tell them we are looking into it... Makes you feel bad for the MODs, especially when you see "pass the crap down the ladder" make it all the way to them.
Some things are easy to explain, other things are not........ <- Store -> <-Freebies->
RorrKonn posted Sun, 07 February 2016 at 3:18 AM
LOL I didn't get a eBot on the eBots not working thread.
Anyways shvrdavid I expect the eBots to be fixed by the time this thread reaches 100 pages.
a 100 page thread alt to be a big enough signal fire.
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shvrdavid posted Sun, 07 February 2016 at 5:00 PM
If it was a hundred pages long, it would probably get locked... lol...
There isn't a problem that affects the bottom line. If it affected the bottom line, it would have been long since fixed.. By the time they notice that it does, many people will have already left in disgust.
I rarely post here anymore, and that does not affect the bottom line here in any way.... People moving to another forum is fine by me, history is repeating itself again...
I have been a member here a long time, possibly far longer than the people running it now. They can't possibly remember what happened in the past if they were not here, even thou it is heading that direction again.
Some things are easy to explain, other things are not........ <- Store -> <-Freebies->
RorrKonn posted Sun, 07 February 2016 at 10:35 PM
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Dang we've been around here for a long time. Ya the odds of a thread lasting a 100 pages long are slim to none but we could always go to plan B n buy Renderosity n hire BB to fix are eBots.
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RorrKonn posted Mon, 15 February 2016 at 7:51 PM
I didn't get a eBot :(
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LaurieA posted Mon, 15 February 2016 at 11:14 PM
I've been here a long time too...left, came back, left again....but I've never seen it quite this bad. I've come to the realization that the forum ebots will NEVER be fixed, the MP and site search will always suck, the new freebie requirements are just f-ing ridiculous and no one who has anything to do with getting things done on this site gives a ____. It SURE seems that way.
To the powers that be: that sound you aren't hearing is the sound of people LEAVING.
Laurie
RorrKonn posted Tue, 16 February 2016 at 1:59 AM
They will all come back ,when there's a reason to. maybe pe or she will be reason enough for them to come back.
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Latexluv posted Tue, 16 February 2016 at 3:57 AM
This issue seems to have been totally forgotten. I guess that I just don't understand why the powers that be will not fix it.
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RorrKonn posted Tue, 23 February 2016 at 1:37 AM
are eBots fixed yet ?
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WandW posted Tue, 23 February 2016 at 6:58 PM
I accidentally hit the Mark All Read button yesterday, and I have now stopped getting them completely, even in response to posts I've made since... 
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RorrKonn posted Mon, 29 February 2016 at 12:33 AM
I think the eBots are getting better :)
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bagginsbill posted Mon, 29 February 2016 at 12:04 PM
Well I'm still not getting one for you posting in this thread, so it's still broken.
I came back to respond to something you said a few days ago, RK.
"They will all come back ,when there's a reason to. maybe pe or she will be reason enough for them to come back."
Nope, they will NOT. PE is at cgbytes and they opened a node forum there, too, and I'm already pretty happy over there.
They had some ebot problems. I talked about how it should work. In LESS THAN 24 HOURS, they fixed it to perfection.
That, my friend, is a web site with competence and concern for members.
Bye.
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bagginsbill posted Mon, 29 February 2016 at 12:07 PM
I need to edit my signature. I gave them six weeks to do what the other dudes did in 24 hours. No fix, and not even the courtesy of a response.
Somebody, turn out the lights before you go.
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hornet3d posted Mon, 29 February 2016 at 1:47 PM
Well the latest fun phrase, used when locking threads is 'there is nothing left to discuss'. It may well be that the threads had run their course but I think the words apply to a lot more than the forums.
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RorrKonn posted Fri, 04 March 2016 at 12:40 AM
No Grave Yards here
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RorrKonn posted Tue, 22 March 2016 at 9:23 PM
Are the eBots fixed yet ?
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Boni posted Wed, 23 March 2016 at 6:24 AM
According to the information I was given recently, they are not fixed yet ... but that it is "more complicated that we anticipated" and they are actively working on it as a top priority. The feeling I get is that they are as frustrated as we are in finding a solution.
Boni
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3DFineries posted Wed, 23 March 2016 at 6:30 AM
Sometimes I get them & sometimes I don't. The reason it's complicated isn't the ebots themselves, imho, it's the member's email accounts that are rejecting the ebots. Yahoo has problems out the nose. Their servers don't like Ebots & will let them go through sometimes & others, they come the next day or two days later. Sometimes not at all. I have a gmail account setup too & I never have a problem with it.
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RorrKonn posted Wed, 23 March 2016 at 11:08 AM
Windows 8 didn't come with the home email :( there where rumors of ways to keep your home email but I didn't have 3 days to figure it out. These days I use outlook.com email .Can't save emails to ya hard drive :( but I'm told it's progress ,lol.
I get eBot replies from all the other forums zBrush ,Substance ,Blender etc etc .zBrush your automatically subscribed when you start a thread or respond to a post but Substance ,Blender even if you start a thread or respond to a post your not subscribe until you manually click on the subscribe button to that thread.
Most sites there Site and there Forums are 2 different urls.
http://pixologic.com ______ http://www.zbrushcentral.com/forum.php
https://allegorithmic.com ______ https://forum.allegorithmic.com
I feel for the dudes having this much trouble with the eBots ,I really do. but at this point they really need to stop and ask for directions.
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WandW posted Wed, 23 March 2016 at 12:39 PM
I last got one from this thread on February 29th...
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Latexluv posted Fri, 25 March 2016 at 2:09 AM
No notifications at all that there have been replies to this thread. Problem is still there. Perhaps there shouldn't have been so much concentration on making the site smart phone friendly. I absolutely hate how the free stuff and galleries load up with all those swirling circles. Annoying beyond reason.
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coldrake posted Fri, 25 March 2016 at 2:28 PM
3DFineries posted at 12:24PM Fri, 25 March 2016 - #4262195
The reason it's complicated isn't the ebots themselves, imho, it's the member's email accounts that are rejecting the ebots. Yahoo has problems out the nose. Their servers don't like Ebots & will let them go through sometimes & others, they come the next day or two days later. Sometimes not at all.
If that were true, all forums would have that problem. They don't. Only here.
RorrKonn posted Fri, 25 March 2016 at 5:54 PM
Latexluv posted at 6:48PM Fri, 25 March 2016 - #4262552
No notifications at all that there have been replies to this thread. Problem is still there. Perhaps there shouldn't have been so much concentration on making the site smart phone friendly. I absolutely hate how the free stuff and galleries load up with all those swirling circles. Annoying beyond reason.
The term "smart phone" leaves a lot to be desired.
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