SpookieLilOne opened this issue on Aug 07, 2016 ยท 26 posts
SpookieLilOne posted Sun, 07 August 2016 at 9:09 PM
Ever since I switched over to P11, whenever it is open I always have three instances of Chromium Embedded Framework (CEF) Client Application running when I look in my task manager. Each instance ranges from 6,000 K to 122,000 K memory, and I fear they are making it impossible for me to render a decent quality and size render on my poor laptop. I ended the process once of the highest one and my library side bar disappeared, I ended up having to reboot my system to get library back.
What the heck is Chromium Embedded Framework (CEF) Client Application and what can I do about this memory hog???
I am attaching screen shots of task manager and my system information.
Thank you for the assistance.
~Jamie
*~*Jamie*~*
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Medzinatar posted Sun, 07 August 2016 at 11:04 PM
Your system has become infested with google chrome browsing application. You haves to dig it out (it is very stubborn!) and maybe go into registry also. Also watch out because unrelated applications will try to sneak it in when you update them.
bagginsbill posted Mon, 08 August 2016 at 7:57 AM
Scratch that. You're not infested with anything. You're looking at the components that implement the Poser library. It is an HTML 5 application and is hosted by an embedded browser. That's why it has the word embedded in it - it's an integral part of Poser.
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SpookieLilOne posted Mon, 08 August 2016 at 3:20 PM
Ohhh ok. So, it is not a process that can be ended.
Guess, for the time being I just render smaller than usual until I can get a better machine.
Thank you for the assistance!
*~*Jamie*~*
"Life is just a dream on the way to death." ~The Crow: City of Angels
bagginsbill posted Mon, 08 August 2016 at 3:36 PM
SpookieLilOne posted at 4:36PM Mon, 08 August 2016 - #4279194
Guess, for the time being I just render smaller than usual until I can get a better machine.
Really? My choice would be to terminate FireFox, Skype, and Photoshop, giving you back well over a gigabyte.
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SpookieLilOne posted Mon, 08 August 2016 at 4:07 PM
Bagginsbill.
I always terminate those before I begin rendering. :)
*~*Jamie*~*
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CyberDream posted Mon, 08 August 2016 at 8:27 PM
I got rid of Chrome browser because it interfered with some other graphic apps. The cefclient.exe process does not appear when I run PP11.
Does it only appear if Poser is configured with certain options?
SpookieLilOne posted Mon, 08 August 2016 at 9:12 PM
I don't even use nor have Chrome browser installed on my laptop.
*~*Jamie*~*
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CyberDream posted Mon, 08 August 2016 at 10:52 PM
SpookieLilOne posted at 8:52PM Mon, 08 August 2016 - #4279233
I don't even use nor have Chrome browser installed on my laptop.
You might do a search (include hidden and system files) for "cefclient.exe" and find which folder it resides. I have no such file on my system, so I don't think it is part of Poser.
Sometimes other application install chrome libraries because it's cheaper than developing a custom windowing/browsing function. Nothing wrong with that, it make good business sense. Countless apps use IE library functions for same reason.
SpookieLilOne posted Mon, 08 August 2016 at 11:04 PM
Thinking Bagginsbill might be right.
Did a search and here it is, installed at same time in same folder as Poser11.
Think will just leave it be...
*~*Jamie*~*
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CyberDream posted Tue, 09 August 2016 at 12:44 AM
I really don't know what to say. I do not have that file on my system and Poser seems to run fine.
Maybe the version I have (11.0.2.31562) was compiled with chrome library object code and doesn't appear as separate process. Possibly it calls the Windows Host process and appears among the dozen or so "svchost.exe" listings that appear with the Task Manager.
I don't use Poser that often and have no idea of the impact that the presence or absence of a "cefclient" makes.
My purpose in uninstalling chrome was to fix a problem with the Corona Renderer in 3DS Max 2017.
bagginsbill posted Tue, 09 August 2016 at 6:30 AM
CD You're on an old version.
I don't know this for sure as I've not spoken to SM folk in a while, but so many people whine and complain about the embedded IE browser in the library UI that it appears they are switching to the embedded chrome browser. I am on SR5, you are on SR2. So your situation is old and your data is not helpful.
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ypvs posted Wed, 10 August 2016 at 9:32 AM
I assume you're already rendering as a separate process?
Also have a search for BCDEDIT and INCREASEUSERVA 3072 to maximise RAM availability for apps in Windows 7 32 bit
http://www.araxis.com/merge/documentation-windows/enabling-3gb-ram-on-32-bit-windows.en
Poser 11 , 180Gb in 8 Runtimes, PaintShop Pro 9
Windows 7 64 bit, Avast AV, Comodo Firewall
Intel Q9550 Quad Core cpu, 16Gb RAM, 250Gb + 250Gb +160Gb HD, GeForce GTX 1060
bagginsbill posted Wed, 10 August 2016 at 10:26 AM
Now that you've made me aware of this new implementation of the library, I see what a memory pig it is. Really quite terrible. I opened about a dozen folders and the memory consumption increased with each one, up to around 150MB. I don't know how long it will keep growing but it could get nasty. Maybe it self-limits.
It looks like this is the result of caching the thumbnails, although that is just a guess. It's hard to imagine they take that much space.
Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)
Mikromike posted Thu, 20 January 2022 at 4:34 AM
This was very informative I'm running Poser 12 on windows 11 home New Cyberpower computer Chromium Embedded Framework (CEF) Client Application pops
Up 7 times and it's slowing large projects down smaller or fresh new Projects work fine but older scenes-built Chromium Embedded Framework (CEF) Client Application My system wigs out from time to time.
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Miss B posted Thu, 20 January 2022 at 11:09 AM
I have 5 files in my Poser 11 directory that start with "cef", including cefclient.exe, but don't have this issue.
I am on Windows 10 Pro, and this puppy was just 2 years old Thanksgiving weekend, so those 2 factors may be why I'm not seeing this.
Also, I've been set up with the External Library since first getting Poser 11 (and now with Poser 12), so THAT may be the ultimate reason I'm not having this issue.
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Y-Phil posted Thu, 20 January 2022 at 12:56 PM
I have to say that I'm pretty much in the same config as Miss B, except that my PC is 4 years old. And I haven't seen weird effects with CEF...
The only times when it slows down really is when Windows decides to update its indexes.
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RedPhantom posted Thu, 20 January 2022 at 1:40 PM Site Admin
I'm on a 10-year-old computer. I see slowdowns aplenty, but they aren't related to poser's library. And I don't use the external one.
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Y-Phil posted Thu, 20 January 2022 at 2:19 PM
10 years old? wow. I just hope that your hard disk(s) aren't that old!I'm on a 10-year-old computer. I see slowdowns aplenty, but they aren't related to poser's library. And I don't use the external one.
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RedPhantom posted Thu, 20 January 2022 at 6:24 PM Site Admin
RedPhantom posted at 1:40 PM Thu, 20 January 2022 - #4433537no, those have been replaced a few times.10 years old? wow. I just hope that your hard disk(s) aren't that old!I'm on a 10-year-old computer. I see slowdowns aplenty, but they aren't related to poser's library. And I don't use the external one.
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SamTherapy posted Fri, 21 January 2022 at 5:03 PM
Am I the only person in the Universe with nothing CEF/Chromium based on their system?
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randym77 posted Fri, 21 January 2022 at 6:01 PM
cefclient.exe is in both my Poser 11 and Poser 12 folders, but it doesn't seem to be running. I have Poser running, but that process isn't active.
bagginsbill posted Sat, 22 January 2022 at 5:48 AM
You guys are way more cef-infested than you realize. The file names change you know. Check this out:
CEF is now part of Poser and ... my antivirus Bitdefender, my IntelliJ java development tools, almost all my games, my Oculus Quest 2, and even Adobe stuff.
Renderosity forum reply notifications are wonky. If I read a follow-up in a thread, but I don't myself reply, then notifications no longer happen AT ALL on that thread. So if I seem to be ignoring a question, that's why. (Updated September 23, 2019)
Miss B posted Sat, 22 January 2022 at 11:33 AM
OK, for the heck of it, I just did a search on my system for cef.pak, and got 30 items, most of which in C:\Program Files . . . namely Acrobat Reader, Nvidia Corporation, and Norton Security.
I happen to NOT install the majority of my software in Program Files, at least those which allow me to install where I want them, and in that case, the only places I have in the list are Poser 11 and Poser 12.
I still think my using the External Library in both versions of Poser is aiding me, because I haven't been experiencing any of the issues folks have complained about in this thread.
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Y-Phil posted Sat, 22 January 2022 at 12:15 PM
What I'v found online concerning that file is this: "Chromium Embedded Framework (CEF). A simple framework for embedding Chromium-based browsers in other applications."
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Miss B posted Sat, 22 January 2022 at 1:14 PM
Somehow, that's not at all surprising. I've never had that browser anywhere on my laptop, and since I'm not a fan of anything Chromium based, never would.
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