Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Why do my renders look nothing like the preview?

savannahleopardgecko opened this issue on Jun 19, 2017 ยท 13 posts


savannahleopardgecko posted Mon, 19 June 2017 at 8:10 AM

Every time I think I've finally finished a character, I render it and realize how bad it looks, so I have a couple questions. Why do the characters eyes go from looking good in the preview, to an almost dead fish eye look in the render? (also how can I fix that?). Another problem I had was the hair (pictures below), why did the hair go from a gray hair looking hair, to a white ceramic looking hair? Some other problems that you can see in the picture include: the skin has a grainy texture in the render, the shirt material looks all weird, and there are some lines on the arms that I have no idea why they are there. Does anyone know why the render looks so different, and how I can fix it?

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ThunderStone posted Mon, 19 June 2017 at 11:27 AM

What's your light setup, render settings and material settings? I can't tell from the picture. Preview doesn't tell you how it will look rendered, just tell you how to place the item on the screen.


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OS: Windows 11 64-bit
Poser: Poser 11.3 ...... Units: inches or meters depends on mood
Bryce: Bryce Pro 7.1.074
Image Editing: Corel Paintshop Pro
Renderer: Superfly, Firefly

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Nails60 posted Mon, 19 June 2017 at 11:47 AM

You haven't said what version of poser you are using. Saying that the image is grainy, I'm guessing you are using Poser 11 and rendering with the default tsettings. The default render engine is Superfly in Poser 11. This is new and some older materials don't work properly in it. And eyes have particular problems with built in reflections adding to real reflections.

Try going to render setting (you can get to these via the render drop down menu or by clicking ctrl-y in windows, and select the firefly tab. You can now go to the automatic settings and try playing with those. See whether this helps, then later on you can start learning about the various render engines and how to get the best from.


willyb53 posted Mon, 19 June 2017 at 1:10 PM

also check gamma correction, older models need to have it set properly

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Boni posted Mon, 19 June 2017 at 4:55 PM

We have some great lighting tutorials here and elsewhere online that should help a lot. Learning about texturing and utilizing snarlygribbly's EZskin or EZskin3 for P11/PP11 at CGbytes (it's free) most seasoned users apply this great script. Eyes are tricky and need a thread just on them. But we'll get there. Let's just get you started. Like most programs, there is not a "make art" button. You do need to learn to adjust settings.

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savannahleopardgecko posted Mon, 19 June 2017 at 5:34 PM

ThunderStone posted at 5:34PM Mon, 19 June 2017 - #4307959

What's your light setup, render settings and material settings? I can't tell from the picture. Preview doesn't tell you how it will look rendered, just tell you how to place the item on the screen.

I am using the default light setup on poser 11 (the one that is there when you first open poser)


savannahleopardgecko posted Mon, 19 June 2017 at 5:35 PM

Nails60 posted at 5:35PM Mon, 19 June 2017 - #4307963

You haven't said what version of poser you are using. Saying that the image is grainy, I'm guessing you are using Poser 11 and rendering with the default tsettings. The default render engine is Superfly in Poser 11. This is new and some older materials don't work properly in it. And eyes have particular problems with built in reflections adding to real reflections.

Try going to render setting (you can get to these via the render drop down menu or by clicking ctrl-y in windows, and select the firefly tab. You can now go to the automatic settings and try playing with those. See whether this helps, then later on you can start learning about the various render engines and how to get the best from.

thank you, I'm going to try that.


savannahleopardgecko posted Mon, 19 June 2017 at 5:36 PM

willyb53 posted at 5:35PM Mon, 19 June 2017 - #4307975

also check gamma correction, older models need to have it set properly

Bill

Thank you, I will make sure to check it.


savannahleopardgecko posted Mon, 19 June 2017 at 5:36 PM

Boni posted at 5:36PM Mon, 19 June 2017 - #4307991

We have some great lighting tutorials here and elsewhere online that should help a lot. Learning about texturing and utilizing snarlygribbly's EZskin or EZskin3 for P11/PP11 at CGbytes (it's free) most seasoned users apply this great script. Eyes are tricky and need a thread just on them. But we'll get there. Let's just get you started. Like most programs, there is not a "make art" button. You do need to learn to adjust settings.

Thank you, I am looking forward to learning how to use poser better.


SamTherapy posted Tue, 20 June 2017 at 4:24 AM

Boni posted at 10:20AM Tue, 20 June 2017 - #4307991

We have some great lighting tutorials here and elsewhere online that should help a lot. Learning about texturing and utilizing snarlygribbly's EZskin or EZskin3 for P11/PP11 at CGbytes (it's free) most seasoned users apply this great script. Eyes are tricky and need a thread just on them. But we'll get there. Let's just get you started. Like most programs, there is not a "make art" button. You do need to learn to adjust settings.

No "Make Art" button? There used to be one in Wardrobe Wizard.

Anyhow, if there is one single useful tip I've learned from every version of Poser I've used it is: **Don't use the default anything. **

I know nothing about Superfly or the new materials but I do know the scripts by Snarly are essential.

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hornet3d posted Tue, 20 June 2017 at 6:28 AM

SamTherapy posted at 12:27PM Tue, 20 June 2017 - #4308030

Boni posted at 10:20AM Tue, 20 June 2017 - #4307991

We have some great lighting tutorials here and elsewhere online that should help a lot. Learning about texturing and utilizing snarlygribbly's EZskin or EZskin3 for P11/PP11 at CGbytes (it's free) most seasoned users apply this great script. Eyes are tricky and need a thread just on them. But we'll get there. Let's just get you started. Like most programs, there is not a "make art" button. You do need to learn to adjust settings.

No "Make Art" button? There used to be one in Wardrobe Wizard.

Anyhow, if there is one single useful tip I've learned from every version of Poser I've used it is: **Don't use the default anything. **

I know nothing about Superfly or the new materials but I do know the scripts by Snarly are essential.

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hborre posted Tue, 20 June 2017 at 10:47 AM

Make Art button is still there.


rokket posted Thu, 22 June 2017 at 5:32 PM

Your hair looks like that because there is no shader on it. Go into the materials room for that hair and apply a hair color to it. Then render and see what happens.

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