Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Project Evolution for Poser

erogenesis opened this issue on Dec 18, 2017 ยท 188 posts


erogenesis posted Mon, 18 December 2017 at 9:33 PM

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Watch to the end... fun! (music also by me)

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This is Project Evolution.

I think I will stay with the 'Project' part because after release, which I hope will be this xmas, I doubt that work on her will cease. She will probably entirely live up to her name. There is so much I still want to do. In a way I really hope that vendors will take certain parts over from me. Project Evolution is huge, I can barely keep up with the feedback I'm getting from my betas. Project Evolution is extremely ambitious. She is attempting to do several things at once:

Why?

I've gone over this story so many times in my head, why bother make Project Evolution? I can list a lot of different reasons, like I've done for years, from feeling challenged, to feeling defiant, for wanting money, for wanting something different, to just fulfill a promise... but the one reason that kept on pushing me on, was seeing my friends and fellow artists struggle to decide to stay with their current software, or migrate to a new one just for the figures ... that didn't sit well with me at all. Without saying anything about the software, switching working environments is not a joke, especially for people heavily invested in that environment (I mean heavily). And what made it worse, is that Poser was very capable of most of the things that my friends wanted, all that was needed is some idiot to do it. Was I to be that idiot?

Now, I'm in a bit of a unique position when it comes to Poser. Without sounding like a total snob, but probably sounding like one anyway, I'm actually independent of the whole figure circus: I can make my own stuff. I made just about all the content for my first three comics myself. I shouldn't even need to worry. Poser is great because its a super simplified version of Max, or C4D. I love it, for comics, Poser is THE sh!t, despite its issues. But not everyone has the time, or experience I have. And some of these people are my buddies that I spend a lot of time with, farting around with render battles, goofing around with characters posing and acting out the most hilarious stuff that I can bore you with in chatrooms about. They struggled to uproot themselves and find a new way. I felt bad for them. I couldn't hand over my Victoria 4.LaliBits.v32.markVIII.Karat24.Hybrid.X23.cr2 to every Poser user I wanted to help. DAZ would take me to town for that.

So you could say: ok you dumbass, why didn't you just take some Poser figure, like Dawn, or Pauline, or even Genesis 2, and work on them instead of making an entire figure yourself? Well, they all have 'some issue' don't they? Now before I invite every fan club of every Poser figure out there to come defend their figure here, this is not an attack, this is an approach.

There are many ways to approach the whole figure design for a CGI application, and it entirely depends on what it is that you want to do with this figure. Many approaches, no matter how cleverly thought out, will be met with limitations. Guys, even this one will have limitations. Even DAZ weren't free of this as they developed their figures. They've done an amazing job with their figures so far, attractive, versatile, well supported. But this is only relevant to people that really want all that. Some folks are just happy with Pauline, and they mean it. Look in the galleries, a Pauline posed with a nice set of hair with some dress, and boom, fun. They're happy. That's the whole point. Nothing to argue there can you?

But there's also another caliber of artist out there that are more demanding... I mean VERY demanding. Like bordering on evil demanding. I am not even the worst. And you need to let us exist. Some of the art that my buddies crank out put me to shame, with the amount of detail they put into it. I once spent two days revamping my own version of V4 for a friend of mine, detailed to the nines, and he still complained about it. Picky! But that is art for you... Roxie wouldn't even register in the dude's brain. He's a master, he deserves a good figure.

So yeah there are demands, and all figures will have their limitations. 'Some issue' could be anything from not having enough polys, to having rigging that would have to be done from the ground up anyway, not having genitalia, looking weird, from just not being native to Poser, sure, you could re-design an existing figure, fashion loads of work-arounds and constructions to get past the legal issues... but how about just being independent of all that? If you're going to go through all that trouble to fix a pre-existing figure... why not just make your own?

Boom. Project Evolution.

I did my best folks, I hope it will work for you!

disclaimer: if I die before xmas, don't hold me accountable. Thnx 😁

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"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all."