Ok, I broke down and got victoria2, since I never got victory1 I guess I missed something with the download I got victoria 2, plus vicky2 P4, Victoria is full of morphs but vicky2 p4 doesn't have very many and as far as I know there are no morphs out there yet. Victoria1 morphs won't work, maybe I'm stupid but are there any morphs available for vicky2 p4..............Thanks for any assistance.