Sys Specs

I had Poser 11 installed, i uninstalled it. I put in the PPro11 serial in the SM DLM and it gave me the update, when I open Poser it get the 'Pro' splash screen

it loads up almost all of the interface and I see andy, but the library/runtimes area is white, and then the program closes while leaving no error messages.

I've installed as 'administrator'

I've installed as my own account, which is also an administrator

I've tried to run in Win8 compatibility mode

I've tried to run with 'disable full screen optimizations'

i've turned off UAC.

I've installed it on my primary (c:) drive

I've installed on my d: drive

i've updated flash

i've installed 32-bit files even though I don't use them.

i've ran registry cleaner

I have removed the system preferences file during install/reinstall

I have rebooted several times

i've allowed access through my firewall ( windows defender )

i've disabled my firewall ( windows defender )

i've disabled antivirus ( using windows built-in crap )

I've followed these instructions https://support.smithmicro.com/customer/portal/articles/1982174-solving-weird-issues-with-poser-by-removing-the-preferences

I managed to screencap this weird error message that only appeared once ( i dont have a kinect on my.. pc... )

i've downloaded installed, rebooted https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2977003/the-latest-supported-visual-c-downloads 14.16.27027