I decided I was going to document my progress on making LaFemme into Wonder Woman. Actually, this is going to be 1 of 3 suits I am going to make.

One is already done, and I've posted it. The second one is going to be for a Lynda Carter face and body morph.

And this is the third:

I will be doing some post work on this image and putting it in my gallery.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Any and all props you will see on her, including her hair later on, will be modeled by me.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Nice!

Great character!

Like the head band

Can't wait to get my new computer so I can get back into Poser and play/work with LaFemme. THANKS! These looks wonderful.

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Thanks. I am doing all the small stuff first, working from simple to complex. Next will be her arm band, and then the bracelets.

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Half the battle is choosing the right character. You've already done that. I look forward to seeing your design!

I have things scattered over 2 different poser scenes. I am trying to save my morph so I can combine everything into one perfect full body morph and then load it again...

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I can only imagine! One thing I forgot that Poser can do is combine more than one scene. I think it bloats the pz3 but I've always been reckless when it comes to hard drive space. Maybe you could combine the scenes. I don't think anything gets overwritten until a save is initiated.

I would end up with two LaFemme figures in the scene. It's better just to try to save the morphs. I got one of them done, and I am working on the second one.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I picked up a Wacom tablet today. I got the Wacom Intuos. It was at Best Buy for $79.00 I think my texture making and modeling, sculpting... is all going to another level once I master it. This was a trial run:

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Hey! First good price. Mine cost three times that ten years ago. Second, it looks like you kept your 2d skills! Not bad at all.

Just wait until you see what I am working on now. Its going to be a few days until it's done, but I am really liking the pen and the pressure sensitivity. It brings a whole new level to the work.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Mistakes were made, and most of what I did was a stab in the dark, but it turned out ok. I would never submit this to a contest, but I am still learning the process, and I have to check out some shading and coloring tutorials. All in all, I am very happy with my Wacom tablet.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

The bracelets are done. I am going to work on her hand wraps next.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

The arm band. I redid the tiara, and I am rendering it now.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

The new tiara. I am having issues with the face morph I created. I may dump it and start over, or I will just stay with this face. I am not sure yet. I can't figure out how I created it. All the face morphs I injected were at 0, including Ulrika, which this resembles...

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Nice work on the props rokket.

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Thanks! I am going to start on the hand wraps next. I will approach them differently than I normally do. I think it will work better.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Rokket! I love the tiara and arm bands and bracers. Nice cartooning too!

Eric Walters posted at 10:10AM Sat, 29 June 2019 - #4355364

Rokket! I love the tiara and arm bands and bracers. Nice cartooning too!

Thanks! I am out getting some fresh air. I will be back to model later. The cartooning isn't bad, but I know I can do better once I get the hang of the tablet and learn how to shade better.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I know what you mean about trying to figure out how you did a certain something. I've had to relearn the same texturing solutions because of the dreaded hard drive fail.

That is nice cartooning. Is it done in layers for cell shading?

Bracers and Tiara. They look pretty aggressive. Nice!

quietrob posted at 10:56AM Sat, 29 June 2019 - #4355371

I know what you mean about trying to figure out how you did a certain something. I've had to relearn the same texturing solutions because of the dreaded hard drive fail.

That is nice cartooning. Is it done in layers for cell shading?

Bracers and Tiara. They look pretty aggressive. Nice!

No layers. I just did it all on one layer.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

This is a shameless bump. My poor thread is getting pushed down to the bottom and no one is seeing that I updated it...

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Lets bump it again then.

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I will be starting the boots this morning. I will have to stop in about an hour and a half to do a grocery run with a friend, but I will be on this most of the day until I get something I am happy with.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Hmmmm... not sure about this one.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I take it back. It might work. I have to model the back of the shin guard and the knee bracer and the straps, but it's looking decent.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

WOW, I miss checking this thread for a couple of days, and you've made a good amount of progress.

Nicely done Rokket, I'm liking what I see.

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I can't wait to finish it, but I am not pushing it too hard. I have the back part of the shin guard done, but I have to make the straps and then the knee guard.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Just the 3 straps left to model, but it's bedtime. Tomorrow will be a day without internet access for most of the day. I should be able to get the boots done, and then it's on to the suit itself.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Looking good. I can't wait to see what you do with the suit itself. :)

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I have the boots completely done. I will post them when I get off work. I started on the suit. I have the basic swimsuit part of it done.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

The boots are done.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Got a start on the suit...

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Very impressive work, mate. Your stuff is always the dog's bollocks.

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I have to model the belt and skirt, probably as one single piece.

I am also trying to decide if I am going to model the stripes into the suit or just do them as a texture. They are pretty deep:

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SamTherapy posted at 2:59PM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355724

Very impressive work, mate. Your stuff is always the dog's bollocks.

Thanks, Sam. That's one hell of a compliment!

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I happen to agree with Sam. Your work is always top notch.

Anyway, modeling the stripes into the suit would certainly make it more unique, but that would be a whole lot more work than just adding them into the texture.

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Miss B posted at 4:00PM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355737

I happen to agree with Sam. Your work is always top notch.

Anyway, modeling the stripes into the suit would certainly make it more unique, but that would be a whole lot more work than just adding them into the texture.

It would be a no brainer if Superfly could do displacement. But I don't know if I can get the striped deep enough with bump maps. I guess I won't know until I try.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Yeah, modeling it did the trick.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Now onto the skirt and belt

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I'm still a n00b when it comes to creating SuperFly materials from scratch, so wasn't aware that SuperFly couldn't do displacement. Have you tried both the Cycles and Physical Surface root nodes?

BTW, the suit's looking good. Nice going on modeling the stripes in.

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Thanks, and yes, it was all over the SM forums that Superfly can't do micro displacement. I've noticed the issues when I load older props that are textured with them.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Superfly does Displacement-you simply have to SubD the mesh. Lvl2 or 3. I still use my pre-Superfly wrinkle maps.

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Miss B posted at 4:00PM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355737

I happen to agree with Sam. Your work is always top notch.

Anyway, modeling the stripes into the suit would certainly make it more unique, but that would be a whole lot more work than just adding them into the texture.

It would be a no brainer if Superfly could do displacement. But I don't know if I can get the striped deep enough with bump maps. I guess I won't know until I try.

Eric Walters posted at 6:44PM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355774

Superfly does Displacement-you simply have to SubD the mesh. Lvl2 or 3. I still use my pre-Superfly wrinkle maps.

Really? All I kept seeing was that it didn't do it. I am going to attempt something later and I will post the results.

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As Rokket said-it can't do micro displacement at render. It CAN do displacement if you use Subdivision on the model. I set the Figure type to Unimesh and set Subdiv to 2. I am still able to use the displacement maps I made earlier. Notice the scales? Displacement. Creature is one I made using Dawn and Zbrush in 2013. Miss B posted at 6:46PM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355767

I'm still a n00b when it comes to creating SuperFly materials from scratch, so wasn't aware that SuperFly couldn't do displacement. Have you tried both the Cycles and Physical Surface root nodes?

BTW, the suit's looking good. Nice going on modeling the stripes in.

That's cool. But I already modeled the lines in there. I will keep this in mind when I do something else in the future, though.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I just, out of curiosity, checked both the Cycles and Physical Surface roots, and both have displacement nodes. What that means as far as micro "micro displacement" goes, I have no idea, but as Eric mentions above, as long as you SubD, then you should get the look you want.

Now I'm interested in checking this out.

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This is my results. This one is the standard bump maps. No masking or anything else involved. The bump maps were set at .1 and rendered.

This is the result for trying the displacement on the Poser Root node. I used the exact same maps, and same settings as the bump map, but only on the blue part of the costume. There are artifacts and the displacement doesn't look right at all.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Have you tried the Cycles or Physical Surface roots. I would think they're more in line for SuperFly than the default Poser Surface root.

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I will try the other two nodes after work tonight. I don't really know how to use cycles, but I'll try.

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Nope. It didn't work with the physical surface and I don't know cycles. If someone can show me that in cycles, I'd try it.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

A screenshot from Wings 3D. The skirt and belt are coming along...

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I have to redo that belt. I am not happy with it. The level of detail and getting things right seems to have gone out the window with the belt. I think I went too fast.

Are people losing interest with this?

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Definitely not!

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It's looking really good! I'm hoping to create my own model of Lynda Carter, from the 1970's television series.

I’m a huge WW fan. Will you release your finished product?

I am not sure. I don't know how much interest it will get, because of the body morphs I used to achieve the look. That might be a show stopper right there because people won't want to use it if they can't get it to look right, especially the boots. And I would have to list each and every morph that I used and the settings. Might not be worth the time it would take to package this one.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I can spawn a full body morph for you..

RobZhena posted at 7:19AM Wed, 03 July 2019 - #4355926

I can spawn a full body morph for you..

I will send you a PM after work.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Alright, the costume is done. Please give me feed back!!!

On to tackle my first ever hair model. I hope I survive it.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Maybe I don't have to model the hair...

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Great costume, great hair!

The problem now is that the scene I was had the costume build in is crashing Poser now. And I didn't save the body morph, so I am going to have to try to recreate it. Ouch.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I thought I was getting somewhere... but: I can't get these boots to sit right because I lost that perfect body morph. And I don't want to redo them, so I am scrambling to figure out how I morphed her. Something isn't right, because I am not able to reproduce the morph, no matter how much I tweak it. I may have to take them back in Wings...

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I am pretty sure my "Projection" Video can Project the figure Full Body Morph into your boots. Look at my Video 2 on my YouTube channel under Tony Vilters Poser 2 Blender 2 Poser. Poser (non-pro) can use Video 3

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That technique can also be used to "project" a Full Body Morph in clothing. Just set the Pokethrough Margin to the value that works best.

Best regards and all the best with your project.

These boots are dynamic.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Looking great! Keep it up!

I am not going to give up. I may have to export the new mesh and fit the boots to her from Wings, but I am going to get it done. I just don't want to do it right now because I have had a few beers watching UFC and I don't drink and model!

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Hope you get it figured out because the figure and costume are amazing.

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SamTherapy posted at 11:05AM Sun, 07 July 2019 - #4356325

Hope you get it figured out because the figure and costume are amazing.

Thanks. I had a two hour break to get a much needed massage, but I am back on it after I eat lunch and get my 30 minute walk in. I make a point to do that every day if I can because I am too sedentary otherwise when I am not on a ship.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Now I am mad. I have to remodel the boots and the hand wraps because the original model was posed just differently enough to screw everything up with those pieces. The rest of it I just had to translate on the Y axis to get them to fit. I am going to see if the suit still causes scene issues, and if it's not that... I don't know what to say.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Cloth sim with the suit. It needed some morph brush help when it was done, so I am going to attempt to rig it. I've rigged for LaFemme before, and it's a fairly easy process. I won't transfer morphs because I don't need to.

But the big concern is will that scene with the suit will crash Poser again.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

This is the rigged suit on LaFemme with no morphs.

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Outstanding work!

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If you liked that, you'll love this, Sam... Rigged on my morphed Wonder Woman.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I am going to start rigging the parts of the suit that I already have ready to go: the tiara, the bracers, and then I will start modeling the harness.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Last image for today. Everything is rigged now, and working quite nicely. I am going to have to take the size of her legs down. But that's another issue.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Took her legs down, reworked the boots. Since I modeled it from about 9 different parts, all I had to do was separate them and move some stuff, rescale...

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

As mentioned before, outstanding

I was wondering when you'd see this.

I am toying with the idea of uploading this to ShareCG. I am not sure yet if I will. It's a lot of work to get it right, and I don't have a lot of time before I ship out again.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

The hand wraps, the harness and maybe the lasso. I already have a shield. I want to find a bunch of reference pics for her sword.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I have most of the incarnations of Wonder Woman and this one, by the newest figure and a steady hand might just be the best on yet! Superb Work Rokket!

quietrob posted at 7:09PM Sun, 07 July 2019 - #4356402

I have most of the incarnations of Wonder Woman and this one, by the newest figure and a steady hand might just be the best on yet! Superb Work Rokket!

Thank you, old friend. Coming from you that means the world.

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rokket posted at 7:12PM Sun, 07 July 2019 - #4356380

Last image for today. Everything is rigged now, and working quite nicely. I am going to have to take the size of her legs down. But that's another issue.

Somehow, this bootless version is my favorite. Wonder Woman badass!

If there were ever a version of that in the comics, with her warrior garb on, I'd leave it like that. But in the movies she shows up in full armor...

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Forgot about her arm band.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Vote: Yes, or No?

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

The general shape isn't bad, but I don't like that it's wrapped around her hands so much. It looks like she injured her hands badly.

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These were just an example I picked up. It should have been more specific with the question. Should I model these again and add them to the costume, or does it look better without them?

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I went ahead and did the hand wraps, I just did them a little different.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I thought I had the harness done, but I didn't like it, and Poser is crashing on me again. I deleted it, and I am going to try to remodel it a bit later.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

rokket posted at 10:06PM Mon, 08 July 2019 - #4356431

These were just an example I picked up. It should have been more specific with the question. Should I model these again and add them to the costume, or does it look better without them?

OK, in that case, considering the bracers are all the way down to her wrists, I'd say no, the costume doesn't need the hand wraps.

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Miss B posted at 7:08PM Mon, 08 July 2019 - #4356517

rokket posted at 10:06PM Mon, 08 July 2019 - #4356431

These were just an example I picked up. It should have been more specific with the question. Should I model these again and add them to the costume, or does it look better without them?

OK, in that case, considering the bracers are all the way down to her wrists, I'd say no, the costume doesn't need the hand wraps.

I looked at about a dozen reference images. Early in the movie when she was wearing the 'Golden' costume, she had those wraps on. They go down past her wrist and under the bracers. They also cover the thumb and forefinger like a half glove. I left that out. But I covered her hand and around her thumb almost like a sports wrap. I made them minimal. The harness wrecked my scene, so I am rebuilding it. What a pain in the butt this is. I should get her the way I want her and save that morph instead of fighting it all the time. I'm a dork sometimes.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I saved the morph so I could reuse it. I am still going to model the harness, but I really think she looks good without it.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I wish I could delete that image. I forgot to take out one of the morphs on her legs and her knee guards are poking through. I am rendering the image again...

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Better. And done.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I'm quite late to the party, but OMG, she's looking great! Lovely hair design and such an awesome outfit. So you did both dynamic and rig? Did you made the hair yourself?

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I did both dynamic and rigged. The rigged costume works better because of the nature of it. No, I didn't make that hair.It's a Neftis hair for V4 that works well enough. I will be making hair for her, but it's going to be a long time down the road.

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A splendid piece of work!

Looking great rokket!

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she is gorgeous - congratulations I did like the original hand wraps :)

movida posted at 2:43PM Tue, 09 July 2019 - #4356591

she is gorgeous - congratulations I did like the original hand wraps :)

I liked them too, but I had issues making them fit, so I stopped messing with them. I am still trying to get the harness, though. I got a start on it at least.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

rokket posted at 12:37AM Wed, 10 July 2019 - #4356407

Vote: Yes, or No?

Years ago I proposed on a comicbook forum that Wonder Woman could wear a pair of cestus instead of re-designing her bracelets. Other fans argued against it. Ugh.

rokket posted at 12:41AM Wed, 10 July 2019 - #4356524

Better. And done.

Great job!

She will fit very nicely in my runtime. Will she be released soon?

I have to clean up the cr2 files and get everything packaged up. I haven't run the whole costume through its paces, so I haven't messed with the weight mapping or anything yet.

She will be released, i just won't give a definite date yet.

Plus I am still trying to finish the harness, which is kicking my butt right now, and I am going to remodel the shield and sword to match the movie version of the shield, and the god killer.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

It definitely looks incredible.

Thanks. I will post updates as I get things done. The harness is next on my list, but the shield and sword could come up if I get frustrated with the harness and drop it for awhile.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

There is more to the harness than first meets the eye. I managed to find some close up shots of where the harness connects at her hips, and these connectors are on both sides. She connects the lasso of truth to the right side. What is giving me fits is the strapping itself. I am thinking I will take it into Blender and use a spline to create it.

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How is creating boots for the SM figures vs DAZ figures vs La Femme?

Boot heels are not as high as a high heeled shoe. So any of them I need to pre-pose the foot before modeling. I have only done V4 as far as DAZ is concerned, and you know I have done boots for a lot of Poser figures. LaFemme is pretty much the same as the rest. The rigging is easier because the weight maps are created so nicely.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Others can chime in. This is just my experience.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

A random chance for knowledge. On this and other threads, weightmapping and rigging solutions have been discussed. I always thought that weight mapping aided in the proper bending of the joints as well inflating the proper muscle. i.e. Bend the forearm and your bicep inflates. If that's correct, how does that affect rigging heels/shoes?

Pretty much the same way. You have to go in and tweak it, especially if you are using a donor rig. If you are rigging from scratch, just paint the maps until the shoe/heel is moving and bending with your character naturally and without too much in the way of bulging or inflating where it's not supposed to.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

When I did the suit for Wonder Woman, I had to go in and take out almost all of the weight maps that affected the skirt part of it, because when I did a side to side with the thighs, the front panels were deforming with the movement. I didn't want them to move hardly at all, so I took out the side to side movement. They still bend forward and backward the way they are supposed to. If she bends backward, to say, dodge a bullet a la The Matrix, the panels fall onto her thighs. Same if she bends forward. Adjusting the joint center and painting out the top parts of the weight maps on the panels got them where I wanted them.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Wow! Looking great Rokket!

Eric Walters posted at 9:22AM Sat, 13 July 2019 - #4356880

Wow! Looking great Rokket!

Thanks!

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