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Subject: H Girl - Darkseal

DarksealStudios opened this issue on Jun 30, 2019 · 167 posts


DarksealStudios posted Sun, 30 June 2019 at 12:46 AM

Hi All! Darkseal here,

I just wanted to start a thread / open discussion about a figure I am currently creating for Poser (no weights yet, so will probably work in daz). I really just want to see if there is any interest in my anime-manga style figure here on Renderosity. It's been a long time since I posted products in the store and wanted to see if this might be the right place or not, depending on how this thread goes. Many of my figures in the past get little love and I get no feedback. I realize now it's because I don't talk about it before release and just throw it out there. Anyway, long story short.... I want to see if anyonwe is even interested in this style of girl/figures. In the next few posts I'll show some images that I've done with her over the last month or 2 as she was being created.

Please keep in mind a few things... The images shown will have post work in photoshop on them Only 1 skin has been created, anything else is manipulated in poser or photoshop Not all clothing or items shown has been made for the figure (ie. static prop to fit pose for concepting) etc..etc..

The main thing is just tell me what you think. Yay/Nay, care/don't care, etc... Ideas for clothing or add-ons are ALWAYS WELCOME!

I'll start with the most recent render (in my opinion the best) and will keep the obligatory ones out (patreons know what I mean, H is the working title for a reason). SMALLevilpointingoctane4.jpg Hentai-in-a-Cup-small.jpg hentaicrawling_bluelf_small.jpg badgirl1.jpg Octane samples 1539 elapsed 00-01-29.png


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DarksealStudios posted Sun, 30 June 2019 at 12:52 AM

blondminiskirtbikinileggings.jpg

This is my example of making the bikini top and skirt into a dynamic piece inspired by the first image. More will come as time passes, as everything is still a work in progress. Nothing but the main figure has a texture, so all materials on clothing are basic and simple, no bumps, no normals, nothing.


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DarksealStudios posted Sun, 30 June 2019 at 12:57 AM

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I can't show you any more from this series of animations.... but I wanted to show a close up, though if this is an issue just let me know >_<


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DarksealStudios posted Sun, 30 June 2019 at 1:01 AM

demongirlpinupo1.jpg

This is the original figure that inspired me to make a more simplistic version, take the horns and tail off and add them as add-on props or conforming appendages. She was made to be rendered in the cartoon render style, which is why her skin has some black marks on them. I might re-do this as a skin type style for H girl as well


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jartz posted Sun, 30 June 2019 at 1:24 AM

It looks real nice. For sure I would be interested.

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infinity10 posted Sun, 30 June 2019 at 3:16 AM

I mainly use male figures for anime-style, but may consider female figures depending on style

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tonyvilters posted Sun, 30 June 2019 at 6:59 AM

Hello,

I see many possibilities for such a figure in anime, but also in the department of Race Queen, Grid Girls, animations and everywhere where fantasy primes over realism.

The "trick" with such a figure is to keep it technically as simple as possible (ultimate realism is not important) so that creators and end users can use the figure to its fullest potential without having to fight the technology behind it.

Low to medium polycount, decent weight-and bulge mapping, and you already have my idea about JCM's.

JCM's are fine, but they have to "do" something in 3D, not to correct less then perfect rigging.


SamTherapy posted Sun, 30 June 2019 at 7:01 AM

I like it. Not something I'd use often but always useful to have available.

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GhengisFarb posted Sun, 30 June 2019 at 7:05 AM

You already know my answer, I'm definitely liking her.


quietrob posted Sun, 30 June 2019 at 10:26 AM

First, I used to post a comic over at DeviantArts, I used to average about 200 views per page and 4 comments. Anyone that's posted over ShareCg will notice thousands of downloads and perhaps a handful of thank you's. First off, thank you. You were helping people in the Poser community with your freebies long before any name changes. You helped me, personally. So again, thank you.

Secondly, this figure would be instant buy for me. I love cartoony figures. It feels like a mix between Kami Tora and you! The expressions are already out of this world. So again, yes.

There has to be a male counterpoint though. La Femme, Dawn, even Vicky needs balance. I'd get that one too.

My two cents, Carl.



DarksealStudios posted Sun, 30 June 2019 at 2:30 PM

tonyvilters posted at 2:26PM Sun, 30 June 2019 - #4355482

Hello, Low to medium polycount, decent weight-and bulge mapping, and you already have my idea about JCM's.

JCM's are fine, but they have to "do" something in 3D, not to correct less then perfect rigging.

She is not low in count :( She is also not weight mapped at this time since I am still playing with the idea of being Daz friendly, as are 98% of all my products. I only weight map if something cannot be achieved without it. Same with JCMs, but I find JCM's are amazing and I have made them do seemingly unnecessary things in the past like buldgin the bicept, have not gone that far on her yet though :P


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tonyvilters posted Sun, 30 June 2019 at 2:34 PM

Bulging the biceps is in the bulge map, no need for a JCM => I have a video about that on youtube


DarksealStudios posted Sun, 30 June 2019 at 2:35 PM

quietrob posted at 2:30PM Sun, 30 June 2019 - #4355517

So again, thank you.

There has to be a male counterpoint though. ...

Thank you! I do have the base male zbrush basic shapes created from the female file, he has not been "worked on" but a basic form is there. I will work on him only after the female is finished enough to my liking. this is where the female started blockoutfemalemaniquin.png So here is the male counterpart, not adjusted much, never worked on after the first hour, so not a real rep of anything in particular...

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DarksealStudios posted Sun, 30 June 2019 at 2:39 PM

tonyvilters posted at 2:37PM Sun, 30 June 2019 - #4355547

Bulging the biceps is in the bulge map, no need for a JCM => I have a video about that on youtube

Again, I do not weight map unless I cannot achieve something while keeping it Daz friendly, as 98% of all my figures are Daz friendly. If a figure/item/product says "Poser 6 and above" it means you can use it in Daz too.


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tonyvilters posted Sun, 30 June 2019 at 3:04 PM

Thank you for the clarification.

I do not exactly know the exact polycount of the DAZ latest generation figures, but most "popular" figures run in the 17.000 to 25.000 poly for realism.

Anime figures, certainly those that go in animations usually hover around the 5.000 to 10.000 poly range.

And all latest figures use SubD (in both apps) to get their softness.

I think the latest hi poly figures where all V4 based including PE (around 68.000 range somewhere) but that is more then 10 ago. SubD has taken over since then.

Because , tja, then come the clothes, the rest of the scene, usually there is more then just one figure, it all adds up rather fast.

Forgive the question but are all vertex groups properly welded?


DarksealStudios posted Sun, 30 June 2019 at 8:18 PM

I think you might be mistaken in the intent of reducing the poly count for the daz figures. They did not reduce the count for "realism". I was told they are more focused on versatility of the figures for the gaming industry. This was the reason they chopped the polycount so low. That being said, nope, the figure's poly count is high, like 136k. Since no one has ever given me feedback on my figures I have no idea the level of the end user, and do not know if they even SubD. As for the vertex welding, nope, this is not a unimesh figure, as it is being made in poser, which would chop it back up when saving to the library no matter what in my experience of making figures. There are programs that can weld the verts afterward, but I believe this would also break the existing morphs. Work flow in poser, to be non destructive, requires this. There is an option IN poser to unimesh the figure, it's a simple check box under Figure > skinning method, which does the welding for you should you choose to use it. I know I do when making animations rendering in the Octane Plugin, else the figure shows breaks.


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DarksealStudios posted Sun, 30 June 2019 at 8:21 PM

Today's Clothing Wip. Playing with some more clothing options. I'm taking a different approach with this figure. I'm playing with it, seeing what more I want to add, and making clothing and morphs as the needs arise. Same with Poses and Materials.

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mouser posted Sun, 30 June 2019 at 11:42 PM

I take it this wont be a Genesis 8 figure? (please correct me if I'm wrong)

Since the RSSY hair & clothing converter I'm kinda steering clear of other figures.

She looks damn fine but whats the point if the bulk of hair & clothes dont fit?


DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 1:23 AM

mouser posted at 1:19AM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355600

I take it this wont be a Genesis 8 figure? (please correct me if I'm wrong)

Since the RSSY hair & clothing converter I'm kinda steering clear of other figures.

She looks damn fine but whats the point if the bulk of hair & clothes dont fit?

No, it's not a Genesis 2345678 figure, I make figures. I don't know what a RSSY converter is. Clothing can always be converted if you take time to do it. The point is there are other things in this world than daz figures. But thank you for the point of view. It's what I'm looking for. Is it worth making new characters for people to play with? Or is Genesis the only thing that matters in the marketplace anymore? I'm not being sassy, I really want to know.


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tonyvilters posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 1:50 AM

There will always be room for good new figures.

Coming back on polycount I remember a discussion from a while ago.

If you have work for a 100 people, you hire a 100 people.

If you have work for 100 people but hire a 1.000 people, 900 of them are on your pay-rol filling gaps but doing nothing.

Same thing for vertices. If you have actual 3D work for them? You need them. If you don't , you don't need them, they are just costing and make your work harder.

For a smooth figure like you are showing, where not a lot of 3D work is done by the mesh, it would be best to re-topo to around 10.000 before spending too much time on rigging and morphs. You are only increasing your own workload by staying with such a high poly-count.


tonyvilters posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 1:58 AM

We see this in Blender too when people start using dynamic topo. Poly count gets out of hand FAST. => Good for "stand alone" sculpts, but no so good for 3D meshes in apps like DS or Poser.


GhengisFarb posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 7:56 AM

tonyvilters posted at 5:49AM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355613

There will always be room for good new figures.

Coming back on polycount I remember a discussion from a while ago.

If you have work for a 100 people, you hire a 100 people.

If you have work for 100 people but hire a 1.000 people, 900 of them are on your pay-rol filling gaps but doing nothing.

Same thing for vertices. If you have actual 3D work for them? You need them. If you don't , you don't need them, they are just costing and make your work harder.

For a smooth figure like you are showing, where not a lot of 3D work is done by the mesh, it would be best to re-topo to around 10.000 before spending too much time on rigging and morphs. You are only increasing your own workload by staying with such a high poly-count.

But optimizing her for one shape in one pose only degrades the amount and detail of morphs that can be made for her. The Girl was great and had optimized poly count for her shape, EVERYONE loved her but when it came time to make add on morphs there was VERY little mesh to work with (with exception to her face) so consequently she ended up with FAR less add on packages by merchants because of that.

And as for Genesis 8, that's a GUARANTEE I won't even look at your product's page. Because I've learned "Genesis 8" means it ONLY works with Genesis 8 and it's likely in the mystical "The Simpsons beer" format. :P It's like the Shur Fine store label of 3D formats.


quietrob posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 2:12 PM

Some quick clarification for lurkers like me who follow this thread.

RSSY Converter is a series of converters that allow Genesis 8 to use Genesis 2 and 3 Hair and clothing. There are at least 4 Converters at a price of 75 Dollars for all of them (Regular price)

Other figures besides DAZ (Gen) Figures. Doctor Pitterbill, Gramps, Sadie, Star, Natu by Chocolate, Gramps 2, Loik and various monsters by the legendary Sixius1, Darkseal and Antfarm and more, all have a spot in my runtime. I know time precious when creating but I think offering the new figures is a good thing. You never know what sells. There are hundreds of hairs on the market, many good and underrated but I remember when every promo featured End of Summer Hair.

Does everyone turn on Smooth Polygons? Do we have to manually tell Poser to Subdivide the Mesh? I've looked for options but can find none that aren't greyed out.

Finally, I love the new morphs,clothing, shoes and props made for Genesis 2, 3, 8 and DS as well as the new hair styles. Such incredible talent, I'm in awe.

I won't touch a single one.

Thanks for letting me in the thread, guys.



DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 2:23 PM

GhengisFarb posted at 2:20PM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355634

But optimizing her for one shape in one pose only degrades the amount and detail of morphs that can be made for her. ...

And as for Genesis 8, that's a GUARANTEE I won't even look at your product's page. ...

Yes, Morphs are the holy grail of what one can do with a figure. I'm confused about the Gen 8 comment though. Since this is not a Gen 8, does that mean you DO like? Or DON'T like? because it's NOT Gen 8?


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DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 2:29 PM

quietrob posted at 2:24PM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355683

RSSY Converter is...

Does everyone turn on Smooth Polygons? Do we have to manually tell Poser to Subdivide the Mesh? I've looked for options but can find none that aren't greyed out.

Finally, I love the new morphs,clothing, shoes and props made for Genesis 2, 3, 8 and DS as well as the new hair styles. Such incredible talent, I'm in awe.

I won't touch a single one.

Thank you for the info on what the converter is, it's all for Gen figures, that's why I don't have a clue. I have Smooth Polys in render settings on Always (and on mesh). As for SubD, yes, you must tell poser to do it, and to what degree (1,2,3), You will find it on the body of your figure in the 2nd tab where you find the smooth poly options as well. You will see a slider for preview and for render. If i remember correctly you must slide the preview one first... i could be wrong. Finally, I love the last comment, I won't touch a single one either. Thanks for joining the convo!


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DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 2:38 PM

tonyvilters posted at 2:31PM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355613

There will always be room for good new figures.

Coming back on polycount...For a smooth figure like you are showing...

It's like GhengisFarb said. Morphs. I think you might be getting too deep into the best practices of the games industry. Streamlining the figure to run the best and take up as little resources as possible is great. But in games when they want to change the figure into something else they have the luxury to swap models. Poser and Daz are not the same as Games and Movies. As for making more work for myself, yeah, it's more work, but I'll have fun while doing it. Also, SubD-ing your figure takes up more resources on your PC than I think you know. And then people end up making morphs for the SubD figure..... more steps to end up in the same spot. 25k figure Subdivided once = 100k figure. Thank you for the advice but I like this work flow better because I don't have to explain to the end user that they must subdivide the mesh to use morph package xyz.


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tonyvilters posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 3:13 PM

Hello, this figure has her hair and boots included in the base mesh of . . . HolD, LOL, 6.580 vertices, previewed at SubD level1, and she has a ton of morphs on hair, body and face, from neutral, to Asian, over Happy and Sad, Angry and Contempt enfin, I follow the facial recognition system as Invented By Paul Ekman ( a face has only 7 expressions ) and with the 7 basics, one can form all others. Facial Action Coding System Material- Hair-Examples.png

And, inside Poser one has the option to edit low res morphs to add higher detail morphs directly on the SubD mesh with bake down to lower SubD levels if required.

The purple line is the link to Wikipedia for the Facial Action Coding System !


GhengisFarb posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 3:36 PM

DarksealStudios posted at 1:35PM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355685

GhengisFarb posted at 2:20PM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355634

But optimizing her for one shape in one pose only degrades the amount and detail of morphs that can be made for her. ...

And as for Genesis 8, that's a GUARANTEE I won't even look at your product's page. ...

Yes, Morphs are the holy grail of what one can do with a figure. I'm confused about the Gen 8 comment though. Since this is not a Gen 8, does that mean you DO like? Or DON'T like? because it's NOT Gen 8?


I AM DEFINITELY interested. I have NO interest in anything for Genesis 8.

For clarification any product that says "Genesis 8" or "for Genesis 8" is a guarantee I won't look at it or ever buy it.


DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 4:15 PM

GhengisFarb posted at 4:13PM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355703

I AM DEFINITELY interested. I have NO interest in anything for Genesis 8.

For clarification any product that says "Genesis 8" or "for Genesis 8" is a guarantee I won't look at it or ever buy it.

Ah, Thank you GhengisFarb

and Tonyvilters, .............she looks amazing........ but let's not derail the thread debating over polycounts. Thank you for the input, I will keep it in mind. she looks amazing.jpg


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CHK2033 posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 4:44 PM

She came out good, (the first render you posted with the flame thingies on her hands.) Nice job.

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rokket posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 5:22 PM

quietrob posted at 3:17PM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355683

Some quick clarification for lurkers like me who follow this thread.

RSSY Converter is a series of converters that allow Genesis 8 to use Genesis 2 and 3 Hair and clothing. There are at least 4 Converters at a price of 75 Dollars for all of them (Regular price)

Other figures besides DAZ (Gen) Figures. Doctor Pitterbill, Gramps, Sadie, Star, Natu by Chocolate, Gramps 2, Loik and various monsters by the legendary Sixius1, Darkseal and Antfarm and more, all have a spot in my runtime. I know time precious when creating but I think offering the new figures is a good thing. You never know what sells. There are hundreds of hairs on the market, many good and underrated but I remember when every promo featured End of Summer Hair.

Does everyone turn on Smooth Polygons? Do we have to manually tell Poser to Subdivide the Mesh? I've looked for options but can find none that aren't greyed out.

Finally, I love the new morphs,clothing, shoes and props made for Genesis 2, 3, 8 and DS as well as the new hair styles. Such incredible talent, I'm in awe.

I won't touch a single one.

Thanks for letting me in the thread, guys.

If you want to use the SubD, and you are in Poser Pro 11, you have to click on Figure/Skinning Method/ Poser Unimesh. You will see the Properties tab come up and the option to use subdivision will not be greyed out. You also have the option to SubD the various body parts separate of the body actor.

I am like you. V4/A4/M4 was the last DAZ product I will bother with. All of the Genesis figures look too much alike to me. The art created with them is gorgeous, but it all looks the same. Blah.

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DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 5:31 PM

CHK2033 - Thank you!

rokket - Yeh, to me everything done with v5-8,9,10 whatever could have just been done with V4. They all look the same, so much so they sell things that convert the new thing you just bought to old versions.. I don't get it. Well, I do, I just don't agree with the business model for me.

Side note, Here are some quick faces I whipped up with the morphs that already exist. I'll probably add more. many faces of Hgirl.jpg


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rokket posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 5:32 PM

I like her. The last image you posted with the new clothes looks good. I think she is cute, too. But Tony has a point. When you model, you have to think of your end user. A lot of us are still plunking around on Poser 7, still using V4, and a laptop that probably still has Windows XP on it. So you have to keep the poly count down. You can crank it up fairly high. But I wouldn't go much past 20K if you can help it. Personally, I could use a 120K poly model without issues. I have a gamer laptop with a 2.80GB processor. But not all of us have that. I know retopology is a pain in the butt, but if you are going to release her, and you want her to succeed, she needs to be very user friendly. Just my 2 cents.

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rokket posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 5:33 PM

DarksealStudios posted at 3:33PM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355732

CHK2033 - Thank you!

rokket - Yeh, to me everything done with v5-8,9,10 whatever could have just been done with V4. They all look the same, so much so they sell things that convert the new thing you just bought to old versions.. I don't get it. Well, I do, I just don't agree with the business model for me.

Side note, Here are some quick faces I whipped up with the morphs that already exist. I'll probably add more. many faces of Hgirl.jpg Wow, that looks really good. I am interested in her...

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DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 5:58 PM

Thanks rokket! I'll update with more in a bit.

I have a list of morphs included but it's not up to date cause I think I had added more since this list is like from a month ago... dial list of 5_11.jpg


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DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 5:59 PM

Oops, you can see what I had named her for the work in progress name.... She is anatomically correct.


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DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 6:02 PM

I forgot to also say she has a Chibi slider too. I've made the head and hands propagating scaling.

Hentai-in-a-Cup-small.jpg


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rokket posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 6:03 PM

Now the plot thickens!!! Haha! That's awesome!

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rokket posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 6:04 PM

DarksealStudios posted at 4:03PM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355740

I forgot to also say she has a Chibi slider too. I've made the head and hands propagating scaling.

Hentai-in-a-Cup-small.jpg

Red Viper did that for A4 several years ago. He also made a few outfits for his Chibi and made his HMHM and Nene hair conform and scale when added to her.

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DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 6:04 PM

And of course changing the diffuse color can give a different skin tone, eye color, etc.... Here is another hair style. Strong-Cocoa-Small.jpg


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DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 6:07 PM

rokket - Yeah, I love to chibi out many of my figures! 😃


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DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 6:09 PM

kay, I'ma go try to add the new clothing I made last night to poser.


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quietrob posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 6:15 PM

rokket posted at 4:13PM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355743

DarksealStudios posted at 4:03PM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355740

I forgot to also say she has a Chibi slider too. I've made the head and hands propagating scaling.

Hentai-in-a-Cup-small.jpg

Red Viper did that for A4 several years ago. He also made a few outfits for his Chibi and made his HMHM and Nene hair conform and scale when added to her.

Quietly starts his fund to get H-Girl as soon as possible.



rokket posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 6:15 PM

Let me know if you want a beta tester.... ?

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BrotherHades posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 6:19 PM

Looks good!


DCArt posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 6:33 PM

Watching this with interest. LOVE the character.

Did want to mention that because her base poly count is on the high side, you probably won't see much difference when subdividing the figure. Looks fine as it is.

LOVE what I see of the Chibi version!



DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 6:49 PM

Thanks all! I just added the dynamic Minidress from yesterdays sculpt. The colors are just to show material zones. Gonna go add more. Deecey - Yeah, This figure won't need Sub-D, that's for sure.

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DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 6:57 PM

Simple Dynaimc Panties. I have a pair of conforming as well, different style though...

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DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 7:08 PM

Some retro future glasses I threw in last night too Octane samples 352 elapsed 00-00-21.png


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DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 7:17 PM

While I'm waiting for the dynamics to run I thought I'd post a chibi style I did. I traced over her and drew on some My Hero Camie clothing. Just posting for funzies.

rough-camie-MHA_small.jpg


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DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 7:33 PM

OK, dystopian plastic rain jacket is in. I'm not great at dynamics, so I don't know how to pin stuff in place, etc... so the pose to show off the jacket isn't great.

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rokket posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 7:37 PM

I want her.

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DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 8:13 PM

😅 rokket

Boots took longer cause they are conforming. Again, nothing textured yet. Gonna take a break for a bit. I'll probably do some artsy render before adding more stuff and things.

Also, I "plan" to release all this stuff as one package. I might price it higher than my past items cause it will have a bunch of hair and clothing all in one. I might make another texture for her as well, but I'm still thinking. Suggestions are always welcome. And I do have a patreon 😇 Octane samples 560 elapsed 00-00-29.png


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mouser posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 8:39 PM

DarksealStudios posted at 11:31AM Tue, 02 July 2019 - #4355606

mouser posted at 1:19AM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355600

I take it this wont be a Genesis 8 figure? (please correct me if I'm wrong)

Since the RSSY hair & clothing converter I'm kinda steering clear of other figures.

She looks damn fine but whats the point if the bulk of hair & clothes dont fit?

No, it's not a Genesis 2345678 figure, I make figures. I don't know what a RSSY converter is. Clothing can always be converted if you take time to do it. The point is there are other things in this world than daz figures. But thank you for the point of view. It's what I'm looking for. Is it worth making new characters for people to play with? Or is Genesis the only thing that matters in the marketplace anymore? I'm not being sassy, I really want to know

Understood Just to clarify where I'm coming from the RSSY DS plugin allowed me to automate and convert almost all Daz3d Millenium & genesis figures to fit to Genesis 8 except for Millenium 3 or earlier (so far).

This means over 90% of the content I have purchased over the years is usable, its a big deal for users who have spent $ over the years.

I dont want to spend time converting stuff just for one lone figure when I can automate the process for the figure I have.

Just something to keep in mind.

Dont get me wrong she is a damn fine figure but I have only so much cash I can spend and compatability is a factor.

Being able to default to the one generation of base figures makes things very convenient and cost effective.

Best of luck;)


DarksealStudios posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 9:08 PM

mouser - Yeah no, I totally get where you're coming from. But it's not a Gen figure, cause I make my own. I understand that a lot of people only want to daz, only want to use Genesis, but that's also why I'm posting in the Poser - OFFICAL Forum, to ask people who are using poser and poser figures if they are interested in something like this. I also understand people will convert from Daz to Poser, but others will not bother.

Sorry you won't get her because she's not another Gen figure. Thanks for the input!


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rokket posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 9:12 PM

I say it again... I want her.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.


GhengisFarb posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 9:45 PM

rokket posted at 7:43PM Mon, 01 July 2019 - #4355730

I am like you. V4/A4/M4 was the last DAZ product I will bother with. All of the Genesis figures look too much alike to me. The art created with them is gorgeous, but it all looks the same. Blah.

TOTALLY agree, but when V4/A4/M4 I pretty felt the same way but they eventually either grew on me or just got so much made for them that it no longer seemed true. Still, gen 3 is my favorite (Aiko 3, Victoria 3, David, Aiko Toon and Hiro Toon).


mouser posted Mon, 01 July 2019 at 10:54 PM

DarksealStudios posted at 1:52PM Tue, 02 July 2019 - #4355779

mouser - Yeah no, I totally get where you're coming from. But it's not a Gen figure, cause I make my own. I understand that a lot of people only want to daz, only want to use Genesis, but that's also why I'm posting in the Poser - OFFICAL Forum, to ask people who are using poser and poser figures if they are interested in something like this. I also understand people will convert from Daz to Poser, but others will not bother.

Sorry you won't get her because she's not another Gen figure. Thanks for the input!

Cool

Like I said damn fine figure and I like what I see but ask anyone who knows me (tight ba$tard).

As for Genesis 8, its not the best but its costs vs balance thing mostly its all the legacy content I've purchased over the years.

It looks like you have plenty of customers looking anyway;)


DarksealStudios posted Tue, 02 July 2019 at 1:35 AM

mouser posted at 1:32AM Tue, 02 July 2019 - #4355784

...but ask anyone who knows me (tight ba$tard).

Why you think I make my own stuff? I'm a tight bastard too! The only difference is I took all that money that might have been spent on Genesis stuff and bought art software instead. 3d tools, texturing tools, rendering tools, etc...


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mouser posted Tue, 02 July 2019 at 5:12 AM

DarksealStudios posted at 8:06PM Tue, 02 July 2019 - #4355790

mouser posted at 1:32AM Tue, 02 July 2019 - #4355784

...but ask anyone who knows me (tight ba$tard).

Why you think I make my own stuff? I'm a tight bastard too! The only difference is I took all that money that might have been spent on Genesis stuff and bought art software instead. 3d tools, texturing tools, rendering tools, etc...

I did some modeling classes with Maya but my talent is average at best in that field.

So I look out for people with talent like any good CGI vulture;)


consumer573 posted Tue, 02 July 2019 at 5:31 AM

I haven't used anime style characters at all, but that is probably because I haven't really had access to any that I particularly like. "The girl" didn't quite do it.

I like Darkseal's work. I like the characters you show here.

That being said, I would have to start my characters from scratch, and my pocketbook is a limitation. I would love to have access to a stable core group of really good manga characters on Rendo. Something that others could build around. If you would be able to do that I'd also like to see it get around Rendo's questionable policy of putting things on clearance. I'd like to see some good manga/anime style core characters as a mainstay, something that's not going to go away if it has a slow ramp to a cult following (or more) and I think Darkseal has something that could work. I mean, Daz still sells M2 and V2 characters.

My understanding, too, is that something that will work in Poser will work in Daz, but not vice-versa or am I wrong?

I don't currently use DAZ. Poser only.



danidh posted Tue, 02 July 2019 at 1:36 PM

Very nice! Fan of the Chibi version, too.


LeeMoon posted Tue, 02 July 2019 at 1:41 PM

I'm keeping an eye on your development of both the female and male characters. What you've shown so far is wonderful. I'd be interested in picking up a dual pack of the male and female with clothing and accessories for both. There are all kinds of shenanigans those 2 could get into. Thank you for sharing these early peeks into development! I'll be thrilled to see the final release. Keep doing awesome work!


DarksealStudios posted Tue, 02 July 2019 at 2:25 PM

mouser - I do the same. Like a vulture (too) I scour artstation and deviantart for amazing works and drool, wanting to get to that next level. I don't work hard enough, but I'm trying.

consumer573 - Thank you! Most poser items will work in daz without issue. Sometimes materials need a little tweak but basically if it says "Poser 6 and above" you can be pretty sure it will work in Daz as long as it is NOT a PMD INJ, which store the morphs in a separate file that poser accesses. Those morphs need to be in the cr2 file, not separate. As far as Daz stuff goes, I know people use converters to get daz stuff to work in Poser, but I am not experienced with that... since I only really use Poser myself.

I would love to see more anime stuff available too. That's why I have so much of it that I make. I don't know if you are familiar with some of my other works, and I don't know about TOS here and linking to cough other stores... so I'll just post images. I have a deviantart you could follow the bread crumbs to. Here are just a few images of some of my past anime style figures for poser... animefighterstanding1.jpg GiFrontandBack.jpg KingoftheDead_firefly.jpg ADRSPlus_ChibiFaced.jpg magurglewallpper.jpg JustMangaDollCENSORED.png MaangaManbigandsmall.jpg SoldierStanding.jpg


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DarksealStudios posted Tue, 02 July 2019 at 2:34 PM

danidh - thanks! I'll try to put up another chibi version soon, I need to render out more chibi

LeeMoon - Thank you, but the male will be a ways off, since the girl isn't finished yet 😅

I couldn't post any more images in the last post, so here are a few more of my past anime style... There may be more than this, but you all probably know all this stuff...

darkknightaction1.jpg MSScarBoltsNeck.jpg editgreenskincloseup.jpg mythallincluded.jpg skinnymanhallway1.jpg SharonaArtisticRender.jpg madsquidy.png kiwiknight2 copy.jpgfrontback_no728.jpg KeiwithBall.jpg Az3View.jpg


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DarksealStudios posted Tue, 02 July 2019 at 2:40 PM

ugh, sometimes it shows the same image twice instead of another image that is supposed to be there, oh well. last one then back to the topic at hand... halfnudestanding.jpg


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LeeMoon posted Tue, 02 July 2019 at 3:20 PM

No worries, Darkseal, regarding the male version. I'm patient and will wait for high quality products. Your previous figures are also outstanding. There are a few that pique my interest. Anyway, don't let me distract you from your work. It's always a joy to watch a developer show off their works-in-progrees, and I'm truly enjoying this thread.


GhengisFarb posted Tue, 02 July 2019 at 4:34 PM

Well, my main attraction to her (other that she'll work in Poser which is a YUGE attraction) is that she has those THICK knees and legs. So many "anime" characters are pencily and waifish thin. And we all now how bad a waifish thin mint can be.


DarksealStudios posted Tue, 02 July 2019 at 9:25 PM

LeeMoon - I need the distraction sometimes. It keeps me working more frequently, especially if I know people might be interested.

GhengisFarb - Yeah, I wanted more of an athletic build for a 20-30 something girl/woman. Also... I just liked the look when poking around in other peoples art. 😄

I had PT today, so I'm beat. I'll be picking back up tomorrow!


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rokket posted Tue, 02 July 2019 at 9:30 PM

Following with much interest.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.


CobraBlade posted Wed, 03 July 2019 at 12:34 AM

Looks really good. The best advice I can provide to make it as commercially viable as possible is to try and include everything you can think of in the base package.

When character hunting to make my anime wrestling game I did like the look of Aiko Toon & Hiro Toon (Gen 3 figures). But while I really like the hair and clothes that came with them, there wasn't much there so couldn't create many characters. Then there wasn't much elsewhere that match the original style either, so I gave up on that idea.

Then I came across Maya's Anime Doll Kit. It pretty much already had everything you'd need for whatever characters you wanted to create with its hair and clothing pieces. From there I was happily hunting down any additional items I could get for them since I already had such a great base to start with and everything else I brought was just a bonus that expanded upon that.

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GhengisFarb posted Wed, 03 July 2019 at 7:07 AM

CobraBlade posted at 5:00AM Wed, 03 July 2019 - #4355893

When character hunting to make my anime wrestling game I did like the look of Aiko Toon & Hiro Toon (Gen 3 figures). But while I really like the hair and clothes that came with them, there wasn't much there so couldn't create many characters. Then there wasn't much elsewhere that match the original style either, so I gave up on that idea.

Then I came across Maya's Anime Doll Kit. It pretty much already had everything you'd need for whatever characters you wanted to create with its hair and clothing pieces. From there I was happily hunting down any additional items I could get for them since I already had such a great base to start with and everything else I brought was just a bonus that expanded upon that.

I don't get what you people have against Aiko Toon, I saw this and I'm all "Oh no you didn't!" I just spent 35 minutes throwing AikoToon into Poser giving her Xenya hair for LaFemme, DeathBringer loin cloth for V4 (deceased - killed by DAZi regime because it could be used in Poser), Pirate Girl belt for Mavka (available here at Renderosity) and she wearing her AikoToon boots. Then threw in Summoner's Steam Reaper and Steam Ucorn for ambiance because you should never be lonely in Poser Only. [None of those elements for other figures were converted they were just conformed and adjusted with scale to AikoToon]SciFi-0001bRendo.jpg


quietrob posted Wed, 03 July 2019 at 11:48 AM

That loincloth is a killer! I love it all! Thanks for posting these, DSeal and GhengisFarb! There is so much that can be done with these characters. The opportunities for mixing and matching realism with fantasy are endless.



DarksealStudios posted Wed, 03 July 2019 at 7:48 PM

CobraBlade - That's what I'm thinking of doing for sure

GhengisFarb - awesome pic!!!!!

quiterob - it is endless! Thats why it's hard to think up what to do next. I think i have an idea though...


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DarksealStudios posted Fri, 05 July 2019 at 7:46 PM

Quickie render to show some of the new clothing... lil-devilgirlsmall.jpg


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DarksealStudios posted Sat, 06 July 2019 at 12:36 AM

One more, then I'll move on to more clothing

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quietrob posted Sat, 06 July 2019 at 2:01 PM

DarksealStudios posted at 12:00PM Sat, 06 July 2019 - #4355850

ugh, sometimes it shows the same image twice instead of another image that is supposed to be there, oh well. last one then back to the topic at hand... halfnudestanding.jpg

This is my new favorite. The Postwork here is incredible. It's the proper blending needed for a painterly look or if you want to turn it into a high quality comic. And before I forget, the previous one WAS my new favorite. It reminded me to say that the Breassss morph for V4 is not only is the best breast morph out there (and a lot of them are very good) but the Breasss Morph also transfers copies to clothing like a dream. It's a must have if you're still using V4.



DarksealStudios posted Sun, 07 July 2019 at 4:29 AM

Thanks quiterob for the awesome words! Firefly gives me that painterly look when I want to go with this style. Glad you like Breassesses for V4 😄


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LeeMoon posted Mon, 08 July 2019 at 8:55 PM

Darkseal, I'm just starting to tinker with one of your earlier figures (and a clothing set for him) that isn't available here. The images you posted in this thread got my interest up! Just purchased him today and am very happy with the delightful attention to detail, control handles, and ease of posing. I will certainly be looking forward to the new figure(s) given the satisfaction I'm seeing from the character and add-on thus far. Well done and thank you!


722 posted Tue, 09 July 2019 at 2:33 AM

I like your work . Here are some of the figure i have , and played with the Textures.Blue2.jpg Blue3.jpg green.jpg yellow.jpg red.jpg I have some of bug boy latter. Love to have bio Armour for Dawn 2.0 and Le Fem


722 posted Tue, 09 July 2019 at 3:41 AM

Here's bug boy Bug Boy texture test2.png Bug Boy texture test.png


karanta posted Tue, 09 July 2019 at 4:54 AM

I also love the chibi version. Very well done figure. And it's really great to see new figures! I'm definetly interested in her :)


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SpiritWolf448 posted Tue, 09 July 2019 at 4:52 PM

Late to the party. Sorry.

But yes, definitely interested in this one. makes a note to self

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DarksealStudios posted Tue, 09 July 2019 at 8:34 PM

Thanks All!

LeeMoon, glad to see you like one of my figures

722 - Lookin good!! Looks like you are tweaking those mats pretty easily.

karanta ans SpiritWolf448, thank you for letting me know you are interested!

If anyone has any kind of ideas or types/genre of clothing please feel free to post images/links. I'd like to know what clothing you'd like to see go with the figure. Now that the Holiday for summer is over I can get back to work. I'm working on a dress right now and will post it up when I'm done. I have a few more ideas of what to make for her, but I'd really like if the community (you all) would like to have for her. Thanks in advance!!


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karanta posted Wed, 10 July 2019 at 3:06 AM

Where will you release her?


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DarksealStudios posted Wed, 10 July 2019 at 11:53 AM

I think I will release her here on Renderosity, since I created the thread here, but it's not 100% yet.


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karanta posted Wed, 10 July 2019 at 1:06 PM

great :)


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LeeMoon posted Wed, 10 July 2019 at 2:02 PM

DarksealStudios posted at 1:44PM Wed, 10 July 2019 - #4356626

Thanks All!

LeeMoon, glad to see you like one of my figures

...

Darkseal, I have several more of your creations in my wishlist. The Manga Man and Soldier for Manga Man were the products I just purchased. I wanted to see what kind of quality they were and how well they worked for me. I've got to say that I'm impressed. I love the style/look of that figure and the clothing. They render beautifully and I'm tinkering around in Poser Pro 2014 to get a render style that suits the character and my taste. Have a bit of an anomaly when switching between clothing or trying to use 2 Manga Man figures with different outfits. Might have made a mistake in installing something into the proper folder(s). Will double check and try to correct it myself.

I've always enjoyed browsing through the stores and looking at your various products. From my unique perspective, I had wanted to see much more information about what the products included (morphs, texture templates, pose sets, etc.) and that kept me from making a well informed purchase. A number of vendors put what I consider a minimum amount of information into their product descriptions. That's what makes me shy to purchase something. I have to see reviews, sample renders from purchasers or beta testers, and even non-artistic renders of the product before I feel comfortable buying it. That's not likely representative of (many) others and is more unique to me. Not a criticism, just a personal wish for my buying practices. Like I mentioned earlier, I am extremely impressed by Manga Man and the add-on Soldier for him. I'm also looking at picking up the Dark Knight suit as well, once I sort out the clothing anomaly I'm getting.

Can't wait to see how H Girl (and the male counterpart) develop. She's stunning already and the male base prototype looks fantastic. Keep up the extraordinary work and have an awesome day!


DarksealStudios posted Wed, 10 July 2019 at 3:59 PM

if you can describe your anomaly i will try to recreate on my end LeeMoon. Sometimes I get lazy when making my final product descriptions. It can be hard doing all the things it takes to make the figure. When it comes to promoting it and making the description and ad images sometimes I get lazy :( Some products I'll list everything, others I don't. I am inconsistent that way. The price will usually reflect what I feel to be right for the amount of morphs or clothing included in a figure. If it's like $10 it will have some basics, $12 it will have more, $15 more and maybe some advanced rigging, ...$20, etc, etc, etc... Usually the images will reflect many of the morphs as well, but not all unless I post a list in the image section of the product.


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DarksealStudios posted Wed, 10 July 2019 at 4:02 PM

Here's another dynamic piece to include. Again, not textured, the different color reflects material zones (center, arms, legs, and main color) I'll start something more complex soon, I got to do a small side project first, I am always available for commissions 😇

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LeeMoon posted Wed, 10 July 2019 at 6:08 PM

DarksealStudios posted at 5:53PM Wed, 10 July 2019 - #4356664

if you can describe your anomaly i will try to recreate on my end LeeMoon. Sometimes I get lazy when making my final product descriptions. It can be hard doing all the things it takes to make the figure. When it comes to promoting it and making the description and ad images sometimes I get lazy :( Some products I'll list everything, others I don't. I am inconsistent that way. The price will usually reflect what I feel to be right for the amount of morphs or clothing included in a figure. If it's like $10 it will have some basics, $12 it will have more, $15 more and maybe some advanced rigging, ...$20, etc, etc, etc... Usually the images will reflect many of the morphs as well, but not all unless I post a list in the image section of the product.

Thank you for the response, Darkseal. I don't want to hijack this thread with a support issue. What I observed was when changing the clothing on Manga Man, from say his Moon clothes to the Soldier clothes, the Soldier pants and shirt would come in as an untextured version of the Moon pants/shirt. Seems like Poser was being emotionally attached to the 2 pants.obj files and shirt.obj files. LOL! It's likely a bug in Poser. I think I've solved this by duplicating the Soldier pants.obj and shirt.obj geometry files and renaming them SoldierPants.obj and SoldierShirt.obj and doing the same with the .cr2 files. Then I made the filename adjustments in the .cr2 files. A quick test let me use both sets simultaneously on 2 loaded Manga Men and swap the clothing elements between them. It was a simple fix and nothing that I'm worried about. Might be good to note for other customers if they have this issue. Could just be me on the Mac with Poser Pro 2014. Thank you so much for the help! Much appreciated!

Yeah, I do a lot of research before buying something. I just like to know exactly what I'm getting or be reasonably sure about the purchase ahead of time. What you're showing us with respect to development renders and especially the morph dials gives me a lot of comfort in seeing what I will be able to control on the figure(s). Thank you for sharing those details as you continue to work on H Girl!


DarksealStudios posted Thu, 11 July 2019 at 12:20 AM

I'm glad you got it sorted LeeMoon, I can get lazy when naming things but if you have "deep" set in your preferences it "shouldn't happen"... though I've heard that before a few years ago about some other thing I made. Everything is in different folders in the geo runtime, so it REALLY shouldn't happen... poser be posering.


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LeeMoon posted Thu, 11 July 2019 at 9:49 AM

DarksealStudios posted at 9:45AM Thu, 11 July 2019 - #4356691

I'm glad you got it sorted LeeMoon, ... poser be posering.

Yep, I had the library preferences set for Deep. Like you said, Poser be Posering. LOL! It was a super easy fix and took no time to do. I've been having a blast using Manga Man and will be getting the Dark Knight suit and more goodies from your store. Thank you for the excellent products!


DarksealStudios posted Thu, 11 July 2019 at 2:40 PM

LeeMoon posted at 2:39PM Thu, 11 July 2019 - #4356708

Thank you for the excellent products!

Thank you for taking the time to send me a review!


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DarksealStudios posted Fri, 12 July 2019 at 4:45 PM

I added a "ripped" morph for fun, painted a greyscale texture for eyes to be used with any diffuse color. just a quick render

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DarksealStudios posted Fri, 12 July 2019 at 7:28 PM

Patreon just requested a morph, so I put in... another quick render. I did over 20 morphs in the last 2 days, so it looks like i'll have to update that list eventually.

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quietrob posted Fri, 12 July 2019 at 7:54 PM

Well, she is named H-Girl and that expression is perfect considering, no?

Ahe...No names mentioned TYVM



DarksealStudios posted Fri, 12 July 2019 at 8:06 PM

Yeah, still trying to find a more appropriate name if i'm gonna post on this store... I might just make it HGirl. Here's a black and white texture for making toon shaders I painted

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DarksealStudios posted Fri, 12 July 2019 at 8:27 PM

wip next set of clothing... still need a loin cloth, maybe some other stuff... we'll see how it develops.

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DarksealStudios posted Fri, 12 July 2019 at 8:30 PM

i think that's enough for today.... i need a break! I expect to be able to get back to the swing of things after Monday... possibly Wednesday of next week. I havbe a busy schedual for the next few days ?


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DarkSkills posted Wed, 17 July 2019 at 6:10 PM

Definitely liking what I'm seeing here!

Stay Focused.


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DarkSeal, I love, love, LOVE HGirl! She is an awesome character already and I'm eager to get her into my runtime so I can have fun creating scenes with her. She's got LOTS of sass, 'tude, and cuteness and a whole lot more. I can't wait to see what more you do with her!

I would love to see everyday clothing for her, such as jeans, tee shirts, even business suits and Oscar-worthy red carpet gowns (think Jessica Rabbit from "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?") and accessories such as jewelry, sneakers, sandals, high heels, hats..you know, the usual girly stuff!

Keep up the awesome work!


DarksealStudios posted Thu, 18 July 2019 at 12:02 AM

DarkSkills - Thanks!!

Anim8dtoon - Thank you. As far as the clothing goes, I'm sure that's next a nice "everyday" outfit and some jewelry. I'm trying to do as much as I can on the figure right now though because I've made a promise to my Patreons that I would at least get the figure in their hands by the first of next month. So for a short time the latest outfit has been put on hold to get more morphs in. After that everything can resume back to outfits. I'd really like to get a nice grouping of clothing and accessories into a bundle instead of drip feeding like I've done in the past.


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DarksealStudios posted Fri, 19 July 2019 at 8:58 PM

It was so hot today... then it rained. Crappy day out so I decided to do the thing I hate most... cleaning files. I am going to just rename the figure H Girl, just like the rendo thread. It made editing a bit easier too. After I was finished I made a few more eye morphs for constriction and cat eyes.

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DarksealStudios posted Mon, 29 July 2019 at 7:25 PM

Quick update on the recent outfit... still working on it

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an0malaus posted Tue, 30 July 2019 at 6:17 AM

You could call her "Ecchi", if you want to make reference to the typical anime transliteration of "H"(from Hentai) ;-)



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DarksealStudios posted Wed, 31 July 2019 at 4:43 PM

Naa, I've gone too far now, done my cr2 editing... H Girl is locked in!


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DarksealStudios posted Wed, 31 July 2019 at 6:20 PM

Runtiming a base pack for patreons today, I figured I'd post a few images. They are not very exciting, but figure renders for the store usually aren't.

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DarksealStudios posted Sun, 04 August 2019 at 12:07 AM

textured

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rokket posted Sun, 04 August 2019 at 8:24 AM

When can I buy her?

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.


DarksealStudios posted Sun, 04 August 2019 at 11:48 AM

Soonish Rokket, soonish. I still have a few stuff and things to finish up, promo renders are gonna take quite a while with the amount of clothing and hair I've made, and then thee is the fact I wanted to include some simple jewelry with her...


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GhengisFarb posted Sun, 04 August 2019 at 6:29 PM

The shaping and breast morphs on her are very well done. The chest has an XY morph that's like the diameter morph on DAZ figures but works far better. Here's H-Girl next to Anime Girl Sinon.HGirl-AnimeGirlSinon.JPG


GhengisFarb posted Sun, 04 August 2019 at 7:44 PM

Another quick render with DeathBringer loincloth for V4, the bone from Cave Troll, and one of Sinon's hairs. She really seems to be well suited for manga style comic illustration. z 0001aS.jpg


DarksealStudios posted Tue, 13 August 2019 at 8:21 PM

life stuff has gotten in the way of progress in the last week and a half. I hope to get back on track towards the end of the week to making icons for the items to get her ready for the store

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HKHan99 posted Sat, 17 August 2019 at 10:18 PM

I'm new to this 3D bidniz, but I'm pretty impressed with this model. It looks like it has great flexibility for making different characters. I'm interested, when you get it ready for sale.


DarksealStudios posted Wed, 21 August 2019 at 4:16 PM

Yeah, I have some health stuff to take care of this week, but in a few days I can get back on track to making the renders I'll need to do the store promo art. In the mean time....

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shedofjoy posted Wed, 21 August 2019 at 5:27 PM

all the best and hope all goes well. can't wait to see this hit the store

Getting old and still making "art" without soiling myself, now that's success.


quietrob posted Wed, 21 August 2019 at 6:10 PM

Forget HGal. Take care of your health first.



DarksealStudios posted Sat, 24 August 2019 at 4:53 PM

thanks for understanding

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quietrob posted Sat, 24 August 2019 at 10:06 PM

I hope your health stuff turned out okay. That is still the most important thing.

Next important thing is THAT SHIRT! Not only is it a perfect fit but the opacity is something I've been struggling to achieve. I want the shirt to hug like above BUT there is a boob factor. The way that shirt hangs off her girls is perfect. Too many outfits don't include that cloth tension between breasts or turn into bikini cups. Girls clothing aren't supposed to do that. They are supposed to look like your offering above this post so BUMP goes this post.

I'm off to make a donut in Blender and then texture it. It should be easy. (Ya, it's a torus but it makes UV mapping it bothersome. I'd rather create flat plane, Texture it and then make it into a donut.



DarksealStudios posted Sat, 31 August 2019 at 12:32 AM

I was supposed to be rendering images for my promos... got carried away. BTW quietrob, the shirt was made like a frosted glass, stretched using a morph, and i painted in a few extra wrinkles to enhance the look.

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quietrob posted Sat, 31 August 2019 at 2:20 AM

Welcome Back.

Super cute Cyber H-Girl is gonna give that red eyed goon behind her quite the surprise. The jacket is a welcome surprise. Too many times I've seen outfits that are supposed to be futuristic but they don't include that something extra that makes it high tech. Whether it was done in Post or is part of the design, it's too cool not to be included in the H-Girl Clothing Bundle.



DarksealStudios posted Sat, 31 August 2019 at 4:07 PM

The jacket will be included, just keep in mind that the lit area on the inside is actually the backfacing normals (thus can't be textured) that I painted on in post (ps). 😅


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DarksealStudios posted Tue, 03 September 2019 at 2:18 PM

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DarksealStudios posted Thu, 19 September 2019 at 4:41 PM

Made the mistake of updating poser to the new Renderosity version 11.2. Now I can't even open the program. There goes my day.

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DarksealStudios posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 3:38 PM

seems fixed.... and then my pc got hacked. Currently freezing my life with transunion/equafax/experian. Trying to get my bank (and other) accounts back with fraud department.

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quietrob posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 4:28 PM

DarksealStudios posted at 2:21PM Thu, 26 September 2019 - #4364232

seems fixed.... and then my pc got hacked. Currently freezing my life with transunion/equafax/experian. Trying to get my bank (and other) accounts back with fraud department.

life :(

My gosh! If they can hack you, they can hack anyone. Some idiots tried to phish me just the other day. They claimed to be Apple...but with an IP that went to the Ministry of Defense in Jolly old England, other mistakes I won't mention, as well misspelling Apple. How dumb do you have to be to misspell Apple?

I know you didn't fall for some bitcoin, computer hostage scam. How long were your defenses down? As I suggested a workaround, I feel awful.



DarksealStudios posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 5:58 PM

Yeah quiterob, I've been trying to get better at making my own music (can be found on my youtube) and I was downloading free vst's for Ableton... and I got a bad one. I didn't know it for about 12-15 hours. That was more than enough time for them to really mess me up bad. Amazon, bank, credit cards, all financial logins were hit. I'm in the process of getting everything back.

Looks like it's time to upgrade Malwarebytes to the premium version.


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SeanMartin posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 6:42 PM

I dont use a lot of female characters, but this one is so very cool that, yes, her and her male counterpart are things I want RIGHT NOW. :-)

Great work as always, bud. I am in serious awe.

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quietrob posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 7:23 PM

DarksealStudios posted at 5:16PM Thu, 26 September 2019 - #4364266

Yeah quiterob, I've been trying to get better at making my own music (can be found on my youtube) and I was downloading free vst's for Ableton... and I got a bad one. I didn't know it for about 12-15 hours. That was more than enough time for them to really mess me up bad. Amazon, bank, credit cards, all financial logins were hit. I'm in the process of getting everything back.

Looks like it's time to upgrade Malwarebytes to the premium version.

Any advice I could give would be shutting the barn door after the horses have left. I've been lucky, scared and cautious and try not to download anything that my Virus Checker says don't. Norton used to give me a false positive on Poser so even then, it's dangerous out there. No Frontin' as we say here in Sactown. I had to look up VST and found it to be very cool. A link to your youtube site isn't necessary for me, I subscribed a long time ago. But Darksealstudio should be bookmarked for most Poser Users. All I can say is I feel your pain.



DarksealStudios posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 7:50 PM

Thank SeanMartin and quietrob. I'm spending an hour or so today to get the files together and render another image for the promos. I'm not sure if these artsy versions will be accepted. I'm just tired of making plain renders with no post work... which is really why this is taking me so long to put together. That and I hate writing readme files.


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DarksealStudios posted Mon, 30 September 2019 at 6:10 PM

I'm almost done getting the readme done and expect to be submitting to the store sometime this week if everything goes ok. I've been combating identiy theft, my bank and many accounts have all been compromised. I've been fighting to get my money restored into my bank account, so I've been a little absent from online this week....

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quietrob posted Tue, 01 October 2019 at 2:13 AM

Looks like I'll have to put in some overtime...best to strike during the initial sale unless you're going to Prime Sale it.



SamTherapy posted Tue, 01 October 2019 at 6:20 AM

Great work, there.

Re: Identity theft... A couple of years ago - possibly 3 - our router was hacked and bank accounts cleared a month before Christmas. Luckily(?) we got half of it back, so the kids got more than a lump of coal that year.

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DarksealStudios posted Tue, 01 October 2019 at 3:28 PM

SamTherapy, I feel your pain. I hope that my ordeal is over. It's been about 2 weeks and I really hope I have all my bases covered now. quietrob, I have no idea what prime sale is, I have not been active in the marketplace too much on renderosity these last few years. I can't keep up with the sales and coupons and what not they do over here. I'm starting to question myself now if I want to release her here when there's option on "how" you want it sold. I better take a peek before I start cropping images to fit whatever size standards they've got now.


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quietrob posted Tue, 01 October 2019 at 4:00 PM

I'm sure others can give a better definition but I'll try. Basically, a Prime Membership gets better prices on a large amount of items, certain sales are cheaper. You get a freebie once a month from a real vendor, your own Prime Membership forum and other things. It's like the platinum club at DAZ. Very advantageous for a consumer. Shoot, if Renderotica had one, I might get a better wedding tackle (I do have the unitool) and real skin for M4 and perhaps other things. I always reup my prime membership just before the big Christmas sales so I can keep my reputation as the cheapest man alive.

Only another Vendor can tell you if it's good or bad for them.



SamTherapy posted Tue, 01 October 2019 at 4:29 PM

I can't give a definitive answer because I'm not productive enough to make it count. That said, I've always found selling here to be simple enough and - for me, anyhow - worth staying with, as opposed to anywhere else.

I had a couple of things on sale over at Poser Pros, way back, but that was simply because Ilona had an account there and we did some stuff together.

Consider also, one of the most respected creators in the business has stayed with Rendo for years and years.

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DarksealStudios posted Tue, 01 October 2019 at 4:36 PM

yeah, well I told myself i'd give it another go, so... i'll post her here.


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Anim8dtoon posted Wed, 02 October 2019 at 2:52 PM Forum Moderator

DarksealStudios posted at 2:51PM Wed, 02 October 2019 - #4365260

yeah, well I told myself i'd give it another go, so... i'll post her here.

YAY! Is it premature to ask about an ETA on her? I'm itching to get her into my runtime and start having fun......


DarksealStudios posted Wed, 02 October 2019 at 3:50 PM

I guess it is premature Anim8dtoon, I just looked at the submission guide (which was a bit different the last time I submitted an item).... I don't think I'll be able to post her here. I'll have to look it over again and make completely new ad promos and edit as I go over this long list. Ugh...


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DarksealStudios posted at 8:16PM Wed, 02 October 2019 - #4365449

I guess it is premature Anim8dtoon, I just looked at the submission guide (which was a bit different the last time I submitted an item).... I don't think I'll be able to post her here. I'll have to look it over again and make completely new ad promos and edit as I go over this long list. Ugh...

Dang! Keep plugging away; you've gotten this far and surely you can see the finish line in the homestretch. We're all behind you!


quietrob posted Thu, 03 October 2019 at 9:22 AM

Anim8dtoon posted at 7:19AM Thu, 03 October 2019 - #4365499

DarksealStudios posted at 8:16PM Wed, 02 October 2019 - #4365449

I guess it is premature Anim8dtoon, I just looked at the submission guide (which was a bit different the last time I submitted an item).... I don't think I'll be able to post her here. I'll have to look it over again and make completely new ad promos and edit as I go over this long list. Ugh...

Dang! Keep plugging away; you've gotten this far and surely you can see the finish line in the homestretch. We're all behind you!

Yes! What he(?) said! We are all behind you. 👍



DarksealStudios posted Sat, 05 October 2019 at 8:18 PM

I really just hate hate hate making promo ad renders. I think it comes down to me not having any set peices that look nice. Like... a normal room/house/furniture/etc... I dunno, the more I think about it the more it exhausts me. I've posted it on my gumroad for now. I think I need to that a break from her and do something else for a minute. I doubt I can post the link, I don't even know if talking about it is allowed here...


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HKHan99 posted Sat, 05 October 2019 at 8:39 PM

DarksealStudios posted at 8:37PM Sat, 05 October 2019 - #4366102

I really just hate hate hate making promo ad renders. I think it comes down to me not having any set peices that look nice. Like... a normal room/house/furniture/etc... I dunno, the more I think about it the more it exhausts me. I've posted it on my gumroad for now. I think I need to that a break from her and do something else for a minute. I doubt I can post the link, I don't even know if talking about it is allowed here...

For what it's worth, the renders you've been putting up are good, I think some of them could be used in promos and ads with accompanying text. There are a lot of really bad renders advertising stuff here, yours are much more attractive. Doesn't hurt that you have a sexy product, of course, but the renders support the product nicely.


LeeMoon posted Sat, 05 October 2019 at 9:07 PM

HKHan99 posted at 8:59PM Sat, 05 October 2019 - #4366104

For what it's worth, the renders you've been putting up are good, I think some of them could be used in promos and ads with accompanying text. There are a lot of really bad renders advertising stuff here, yours are much more attractive. Doesn't hurt that you have a sexy product, of course, but the renders support the product nicely.

I agree with HKHan99. Also, I like seeing clay renders of a product, as well as posed figures on a simple background with good lighting. And then an artistic render (or 2 if you're inclined.) When I'm looking at a product, the artistic renders are less important than a well lit, unobstructed view of what is being sold. Don't get me wrong, I love seeing the artistic imagery, but they aren't what sells me the product. Others will certainly have a very different opinion than mine. Go with what maximizes sales for you. 😀

Looking forward to seeing you enjoy much success with H Girl, DarksealStudios!

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quietrob posted Sun, 06 October 2019 at 8:24 AM

I was once told that DAZ Promos aren't done by the artist. That explained why the artist couldn't always list the items used in a promo of their own product. A shame as I like seeing the artist's vision and they might sell everything in the render. Anyway, You're WIP's are fun and clever and naughty. Whether here or at Renderotica, I say go for it.



Anim8dtoon posted Sun, 06 October 2019 at 11:52 AM Forum Moderator

DarkSeal, I agree with LeeMoon about the type of promo renders to post. You could ask some of the established vendors for their advice, especially those who have toon-style figures, like Deecey’s Maisie or Nursoda’s many “non-traditional” figures. At the very least, look at their promo images for inspiration. I am not a vendor, but I think that you’d want to bring out her sassy and spunky personality in the renders. You’ve definitely done that in the images you’ve posted in this thread! Don’t despair; it will fall into place.


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DarksealStudios posted at 7:52PM Sat, 12 October 2019 - #4366102

I really just hate hate hate making promo ad renders. I think it comes down to me not having any set peices that look nice. Like... a normal room/house/furniture/etc... I dunno, the more I think about it the more it exhausts me. I've posted it on my gumroad for now. I think I need to that a break from her and do something else for a minute. I doubt I can post the link, I don't even know if talking about it is allowed here...

Did you mention somewhere in the thread that she's available as a beta on your Patreon account? If so, could you please post the link? Muchas gracias! Also, where are your other figures for sale? I'm interested in some of the ones you posted on page 2. Thanks again!


Kerya posted Sun, 13 October 2019 at 2:49 AM

Did you mention somewhere in the thread that she's available as a beta on your Patreon account? If so, could you please post the link? Muchas gracias! Also, where are your other figures for sale? I'm interested in some of the ones you posted on page 2. Thanks again!

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DarksealStudios posted Thu, 24 October 2019 at 9:22 PM

Anim8dtoon posted at 9:13PM Thu, 24 October 2019 - #4366922

DarksealStudios posted at 7:52PM Sat, 12 October 2019 - #4366102

I really just hate hate hate making promo ad renders. I think it comes down to me not having any set peices that look nice. Like... a normal room/house/furniture/etc... I dunno, the more I think about it the more it exhausts me. I've posted it on my gumroad for now. I think I need to that a break from her and do something else for a minute. I doubt I can post the link, I don't even know if talking about it is allowed here...

Did you mention somewhere in the thread that she's available as a beta on your Patreon account? If so, could you please post the link? Muchas gracias! Also, where are your other figures for sale? I'm interested in some of the ones you posted on page 2. Thanks again!

Yes, it is available over on my Patreon, again, I don't know what links are allowed and not allowed... But you can find me by putting Darkseal after the / of the site. Also, I have her over on my Gumroad account right now for $60. I think what I'll be doing is updating the "premium" package with more and more clothing, hair, poses, as they are made at no extra cost. I'm not really sure if people who have purchased on Gumroad can redownload at a later date... I would think the answer would be yes. But yeah, if you get on to my Patreon it's currently available for $10, my "Gold" level (under August Gold reward). She'll be up for the next 10 days... maybe longer if people sign up. August, September, October is all H Girl Premium combined. But, once things are like 3 months old I remove them from Pateron... so yeah, 10 more days it will be taken off.

All in all I cannot post the images I wanted to for the product and my head is somewhere else right now. I'm still dealing with identity theft fallout, bank fees that shouldn't exist, and more, while my 3d poser/daz items have come to a complete stand still in sales. I'm running a 35% off on 'Otica (again, just search Darkseal), which I only really do once a year. I'd change jobs if I could, but with all the doctor visits I'm doing right now I can't even really do that.


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Scharmers posted Thu, 31 October 2019 at 10:52 AM

I'm grabbing her from your Gumroad, Darkseal. If there's any updates when you do a "full" rollout, let me know!


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Scharmers posted at 6:44PM Thu, 31 October 2019 - #4368780

I'm grabbing her from your Gumroad, Darkseal. If there's any updates when you do a "full" rollout, let me know!

Thanks Scharmers, I sent you an email when I saw your purchase.

Anyone else who wants her I have a temporary coupon code "samhain" for 35% off for Halloween. Sorry you missed it Scharmers but I hope to make it up to you!


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GhengisFarb posted Tue, 05 November 2019 at 3:16 PM

Been so busy with school work I haven't got a lot of time to play with her, put her in her Barbarian outfit and another one of her in her Valkyrie outfit with Cherry NearMe for scale. No postwork, render straight out of Poser.

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SeanMartin posted Wed, 06 November 2019 at 5:26 AM

Did anything ever come of the male counterpart on this?

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DarksealStudios posted Wed, 06 November 2019 at 2:46 PM

I have not started on the male yet. I'm still debating if I should or start making more support for "Manga Man" that I had made some time ago. I probably should just make a male in the same style, but maybe I could just get away with making morphs for MM since he already has 3 outfits.

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DarksealStudios posted Fri, 15 November 2019 at 10:14 AM

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DarksealStudios posted Fri, 15 November 2019 at 10:14 AM

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DarksealStudios posted Fri, 15 November 2019 at 10:15 AM

experimenting now with just adding a boy morph, even though this is boy chibi.

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DarksealStudios posted Sun, 17 November 2019 at 9:03 PM

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William_Rivera posted Sat, 30 May 2020 at 4:28 PM

Did you ever released this product?


EldritchCellar posted Sat, 30 May 2020 at 6:08 PM

Interesting showcase thread. I like his Succubus figure quite a bit. I don't think he ever released the figure, I haven't seen it anywhere... it would certainly be at his cgbytes store if so.



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EldritchCellar posted Sat, 30 May 2020 at 6:27 PM

On the topic of his Succubus standalone fig (available at the naughty place), one hell of a rig on that and lots of room for tweaking/customizing. Highly recommended to people who like to collect unusual humanoids and creatures, I'm not aware of any other standalone of that specific genre/type. One level of unimesh skinning subdivision is perfect for the figure. 4 out of 5 stars.



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bwldrd posted Sat, 30 May 2020 at 7:31 PM

@William_Rivera If you are referring to H-Girl, yes he did. She can be found on gumroad (Google search, gumroad darkseal). !NSFW

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DarksealStudios posted Sat, 30 May 2020 at 7:51 PM

Hi All, bwldrd is right, she's over on my gumroad page. Too many hoops to jump through to get her into the store here for me. I'm gettin too old for this! I've been holed up doing commission work.


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William_Rivera posted Sun, 31 May 2020 at 1:36 AM

Little too much for my budget thanks anywas


DarksealStudios posted Sun, 31 May 2020 at 10:45 AM

William_Rivera posted at 10:44AM Sun, 31 May 2020 - #4390649

Little too much for my budget thanks anywas

Coupon 2020 will save 50% right now. But yeah, it's a bundle so it's more than a base figure.


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randym77 posted Sun, 31 May 2020 at 11:28 AM

DarksealStudios posted at 11:26AM Sun, 31 May 2020 - #4390668

William_Rivera posted at 10:44AM Sun, 31 May 2020 - #4390649

Little too much for my budget thanks anywas

Coupon 2020 will save 50% right now. But yeah, it's a bundle so it's more than a base figure.

Dang. That's a good price, for the figure and "over 40 different props/clothings/hairs." She's not really my type (I use male figures a lot more than female), but I'm tempted.