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Subject: A Tail Of Woe (pun very much intended)

SamTherapy opened this issue on Sep 22, 2019 · 158 posts


SamTherapy posted Sun, 22 September 2019 at 5:33 PM

As I was taking a leisurely stroll through an old Runtime, I spied a disconsolate figure, beating the ground with his fists, wailing and bemoaning his fate. I got closer and recognized the finely wrought features of Michael 2.

"Eyup lad", I greeted him, "what's up wi' thee?"

"Oh, woe is me, I am bereft!" he wailed.

"Well, aye", I replied, "thy's got nay clobber on, for a start." I had - observant to the last - noticed he was nekkid.

"Worse, much worse than that!" he shrieked, wiping many a tear from his eyes, "Look what they did to me!", he continued, pointing in the direction of his nether regions.

"Ah, I see", I responded. "Well, they can be switched on again, lad, no bother."

"If only that were true", he wept. "The Genitals option is no longer in the menu. I am a eunuch, no, I am far worse than a eunuch, I am sans bollocks and sans knob! A curse upon the evil demons who did this to me!"

I was speechless. Then, I thought about all the other poor fellows left in the same boat. Now, I don't know about anyone else but there are times when I've needed to use Mike with his wedding tackle flapping in the breeze. There's at least one pic in me gallery with him just so.

I guess I could - if I absolutely have to - hack the Cr2 and put a switch in there but it's not ideal, I'd prefer a menu option, and there must be plenty of people who don't feel confident faffing around with Cr2s.

So, pretty please, can we have the Willy switch back?

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Nails60 posted Sun, 22 September 2019 at 5:45 PM

I noticed that with Behemoth 2, which in some ways isn't a bad thing, I don't need my favourite software making me feel inadequate, and can't imagine the need to re-masculise him, but this is the sort of thing I rail against when in any poser wishlist people want to get rid of things (bad choice of words perhaps) just because they don't use them. In the release to the update it talked about removing broken menu items, hey guys, this wasn't broken, just only working on certain older figures.


SamTherapy posted Sun, 22 September 2019 at 5:52 PM

Sooner, rather than later, too. There's Don, James, Dork and Mike all feeling very inadequate at the moment. Haven't even taken a look at the similarly afflicted womenfolk.

All the other lads with detachable bits are feeling very smug now. David's just been waving his...

well, best not go into that.

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randym77 posted Sun, 22 September 2019 at 6:05 PM

My Michael 1 and 2 still have genitals. You have to make them visible. Are you saying you just downloaded them from DAZ, and that no longer works?


SamTherapy posted Sun, 22 September 2019 at 6:23 PM

Well, blinking flip! I always thought it was a geometry switched hip. Ta for that.

Silly me.

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Afrodite-Ohki posted Sun, 22 September 2019 at 6:39 PM

I--

When did we have a Willy switch? Where was it located? I'm very confused right now 😂

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SamTherapy posted Sun, 22 September 2019 at 6:48 PM

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 12:48AM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363434

I--

When did we have a Willy switch? Where was it located? I'm very confused right now 😂

Figure - Genitals

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SamTherapy posted Sun, 22 September 2019 at 6:55 PM

Further investigation - I'm a born nuisance - shows that things ain't so simple for teh wimminz. Them poor lasses, not having any bits that hang out (as it were) are decidedly at a disadvantage when it comes to making their nether regions visible, because the other, blank area is in the way, so a Cr2 hack or a return of the switch is necessary to make 'em complete again.

Mind you, Judy is as ugly as a smashed crab and Jessi is seriously deformed, so maybe it's not such a bad thing. ;)

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hborre posted Sun, 22 September 2019 at 6:57 PM

Yep, I noticed that too. The willy switch is gone. ?


SamTherapy posted Sun, 22 September 2019 at 6:59 PM

hborre posted at 12:58AM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363439

Yep, I noticed that too. The willy switch is gone. ?

Maybe in the interests of equality we should call it the Minge/Willy switch.

See, I'm dead helpful, me.

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randym77 posted Sun, 22 September 2019 at 7:07 PM

I can't remember if V1 had any naughty bits. V2 had a morph that made it look like she had something down there, but it wasn't super-detailed.


EClark1894 posted Sun, 22 September 2019 at 7:19 PM

Figure Height is gone from the Figure menu too, but I'm fine with that.😄




SamTherapy posted Sun, 22 September 2019 at 7:45 PM

randym77 posted at 1:42AM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363444

I can't remember if V1 had any naughty bits. V2 had a morph that made it look like she had something down there, but it wasn't super-detailed.

Yep, the same as V3 but they're dial controlled from the figure. Jessi and Judy, however, have something approaching realistic-ish genitals. A bit odd, considering both of 'em look like they were thrown together in a laboratory by a blind maniac but there you go.

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randym77 posted Sun, 22 September 2019 at 8:17 PM

So did Jessi and Judy used to have genitals that appeared and disappeared with a switch?

And Poser no longer supports this switch?


HKHan99 posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 12:31 AM

The thread made curious, so I checked the older male figures. Several have detachable (or attachable, I guess) genitals but hoo-wee! The morph controls on them are weird in the extreme. Did the ones that used the genital switch have better controls?


SamTherapy posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 1:19 AM

randym77 posted at 7:18AM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363457

So did Jessi and Judy used to have genitals that appeared and disappeared with a switch?

And Poser no longer supports this switch?

Yep. And yep.

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SamTherapy posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 1:19 AM

HKHan99 posted at 7:19AM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363478

The thread made curious, so I checked the older male figures. Several have detachable (or attachable, I guess) genitals but hoo-wee! The morph controls on them are weird in the extreme. Did the ones that used the genital switch have better controls?

Not really but at least they were there. Well, some of the blokes had an "Erect" morph, so they could at least get excited.

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randym77 posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 5:39 AM

SamTherapy posted at 5:39AM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363483

randym77 posted at 7:18AM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363457

So did Jessi and Judy used to have genitals that appeared and disappeared with a switch?

And Poser no longer supports this switch?

Yep. And yep.

How did that even work? Was it a morph that moved it from inside the body? Or was it actually some kind of geometry switching?


movida posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 6:27 AM

What now, the morality police?


SamTherapy posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 6:37 AM

randym77 posted at 12:36PM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363512

SamTherapy posted at 5:39AM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363483

randym77 posted at 7:18AM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363457

So did Jessi and Judy used to have genitals that appeared and disappeared with a switch?

And Poser no longer supports this switch?

Yep. And yep.

How did that even work? Was it a morph that moved it from inside the body? Or was it actually some kind of geometry switching?

Geom Switching, I think. But after manually unhiding the female bits, I tried making the hip invisible, which made the hip and the genitals vanish. So, there's a bit more at work, I reckon.

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RedPhantom posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 8:16 AM Online Now! Site Admin

In the article about the update, they said they were supporting figures "Alyson, Ben, Ben2, James, Jessi, Kate, Kate2, Paul, Paul2 Pauline, Pauline2, Rex, Roxie, Ryan, SimonG2 and SydneyG2." It's possible they meant Jessi and James g2 in which case they are no longer supporting any figures that need that option so in that sense the feature is obsolete. Even if they didn't mean the g2 figures, it's only 2 figures, one of whom you can get his genitalia to show without it. (no it doesn't do anything to the kids) so that leaves one figure. It probably didn't seem worth it to keep a feature for one figure everyone says is an alien anyhow.


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SamTherapy posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 9:49 AM

Fair comment, I guess. At least Mike 2 and the other lads can whip out their tackle if necessary.

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A_Sunbeam posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 2:21 PM

Old joke:

Bloke in toilet, to chap at adjacent pissoir: "This is where the big knobs hang out" ...

OK. I'll get me coat ...

Old, but then, so am I.


SamTherapy posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 2:55 PM

A_Sunbeam posted at 8:54PM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363601

Old joke:

Bloke in toilet, to chap at adjacent pissoir: "This is where the big knobs hang out" ...

OK. I'll get me coat ...

Old, but then, so am I.

Mate, that was old when Methuselah was a lad. 😄

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A_Sunbeam posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 3:41 PM

So? I reckon that at 80 I'm allowed some silly old jokes ...


SamTherapy posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 4:16 PM

A_Sunbeam posted at 10:14PM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363620

So? I reckon that at 80 I'm allowed some silly old jokes ...

Indeed you are. Long may you be posting 'em, too.

BTW, what's the story behind your avatar? I'm guessing it's a stylized blue cat.

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A_Sunbeam posted Mon, 23 September 2019 at 11:39 PM

SamTherapy posted at 5:38AM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363642

A_Sunbeam posted at 10:14PM Mon, 23 September 2019 - #4363620

So? I reckon that at 80 I'm allowed some silly old jokes ...

Indeed you are. Long may you be posting 'em, too.

BTW, what's the story behind your avatar? I'm guessing it's a stylized blue cat.

It's a tangram, made up of shapes that form a square:

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SamTherapy posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 1:37 AM

Ah, I used to enjoy playing with those as a nipper.

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SamTherapy posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 4:13 AM

Further to the "Nobody uses ugly old Judy anyhow", I have a few characters based on Judy that I do use from time to time. One of 'em - bought here - is Farah, by Quarker (of hair fame) and several of the TenTen free characters.

Guess it's back to Cr2 hacking for me. :(

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Kerya posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 4:14 AM

RedPhantom posted at 4:07AM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363534

In the article about the update, they said they were supporting figures "Alyson, Ben, Ben2, James, Jessi, Kate, Kate2, Paul, Paul2 Pauline, Pauline2, Rex, Roxie, Ryan, SimonG2 and SydneyG2." It's possible they meant Jessi and James g2 in which case they are no longer supporting any figures that need that option so in that sense the feature is obsolete. Even if they didn't mean the g2 figures, it's only 2 figures, one of whom you can get his genitalia to show without it. (no it doesn't do anything to the kids) so that leaves one figure. It probably didn't seem worth it to keep a feature for one figure everyone says is an alien anyhow.

Welllllll, Geometry switching is used in all kinds of content, not only genitals. Like the HMS Victory at Daz3d. OK, I do get that this is not the targeted store here, but it is the first item that came to my mind. I do know there are other figures that are using it, just don't remember them at the moment. I think I am never going to buy the upgrade to Poser 11 ...


SamTherapy posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 6:52 AM

Kerya posted at 12:51PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363782

RedPhantom posted at 4:07AM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363534

In the article about the update, they said they were supporting figures "Alyson, Ben, Ben2, James, Jessi, Kate, Kate2, Paul, Paul2 Pauline, Pauline2, Rex, Roxie, Ryan, SimonG2 and SydneyG2." It's possible they meant Jessi and James g2 in which case they are no longer supporting any figures that need that option so in that sense the feature is obsolete. Even if they didn't mean the g2 figures, it's only 2 figures, one of whom you can get his genitalia to show without it. (no it doesn't do anything to the kids) so that leaves one figure. It probably didn't seem worth it to keep a feature for one figure everyone says is an alien anyhow.

Welllllll, Geometry switching is used in all kinds of content, not only genitals. Like the HMS Victory at Daz3d. OK, I do get that this is not the targeted store here, but it is the first item that came to my mind. I do know there are other figures that are using it, just don't remember them at the moment. I think I am never going to buy the upgrade to Poser 11 ...

Geometry switching still works. I use it on many of my models. It's the dedicated "Genitals" switch that's gone from the Figure menu.

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Kerya posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 7:31 AM

SamTherapy posted at 7:31AM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363801

Kerya posted at 12:51PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363782

RedPhantom posted at 4:07AM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363534

In the article about the update, they said they were supporting figures "Alyson, Ben, Ben2, James, Jessi, Kate, Kate2, Paul, Paul2 Pauline, Pauline2, Rex, Roxie, Ryan, SimonG2 and SydneyG2." It's possible they meant Jessi and James g2 in which case they are no longer supporting any figures that need that option so in that sense the feature is obsolete. Even if they didn't mean the g2 figures, it's only 2 figures, one of whom you can get his genitalia to show without it. (no it doesn't do anything to the kids) so that leaves one figure. It probably didn't seem worth it to keep a feature for one figure everyone says is an alien anyhow.

Welllllll, Geometry switching is used in all kinds of content, not only genitals. Like the HMS Victory at Daz3d. OK, I do get that this is not the targeted store here, but it is the first item that came to my mind. I do know there are other figures that are using it, just don't remember them at the moment. I think I am never going to buy the upgrade to Poser 11 ...

Geometry switching still works. I use it on many of my models. It's the dedicated "Genitals" switch that's gone from the Figure menu.

Thank you for clarifying!


RedPhantom posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 7:32 AM Online Now! Site Admin

If the geometry switching still works, can that be used to get the genitals in for Judy and Jessi and then save those as new figures for future use?


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SamTherapy posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 11:28 AM

RedPhantom posted at 5:27PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363813

If the geometry switching still works, can that be used to get the genitals in for Judy and Jessi and then save those as new figures for future use?

As I said above, it probably can but I'll have to edit the Cr2 to allow it.

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SamTherapy posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 12:06 PM

Well, I now have a Judy with visible lady bits. Sort of. After editing the Cr2 to ignore the minge-less version, I have a hip with a blank space where the genitals should be. Making them visible in the hierarchy editor cures that problem. I need to re-edit to make them visible by default.

Next is to make the characters I use point to that version of Judy.

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SamTherapy posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 12:26 PM

More weirdness. The genital body part isn't set to invisible in the Cr2, yet it always loads as such. Oh well, never mind.

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quietrob posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 1:15 PM

EClark1894 posted at 11:13AM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363449

Figure Height is gone from the Figure menu too, but I'm fine with that.😄

What the? I'm NOT fine with that!? With all of the suggestions that have been brought up, someone was tossing and turning all night, woke up in a cold sweat and said, "MUST GET RID OF FIGURE SWITCH!"

Bring back my figure switch!!



SamTherapy posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 1:24 PM

I have a funny story about the Genitals switch...

Our very own Ilona, vendor of many fine products, great artist (Yes, I'm biased, so sue me) and namesake of my daughter, once told me she was making a presentation for some company or other, and using Poser in preview mode to show a prepared scene. The scene contained several Mike 2, all clothed but...

She forgot to switch genitals off before loading.

So, right in front of a bunch of corporate suit types, there's this Poser scene loaded with several Mikes, all with their knobs flapping in the breeze.

😂

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quietrob posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 2:01 PM

SamTherapy posted at 12:01PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363867

I have a funny story about the Genitals switch...

Our very own Ilona, vendor of many fine products, great artist (Yes, I'm biased, so sue me) and namesake of my daughter, once told me she was making a presentation for some company or other, and using Poser in preview mode to show a prepared scene. The scene contained several Mike 2, all clothed but...

She forgot to switch genitals off before loading.

So, right in front of a bunch of corporate suit types, there's this Poser scene loaded with several Mikes, all with their knobs flapping in the breeze.

😂 LMAO!!!! 😂



SamTherapy posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 4:56 PM

Give a whole new meaning to "Free Willy".

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Snarlygribbly posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 4:59 PM

If you want to activate the willy switch, open the Python Shell window and type:

poser.ProcessCommand(1370)

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SamTherapy posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 5:50 PM

Interesting. Ta very much, mate.

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randym77 posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 6:15 PM

Holy cow, it works.


quietrob posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 6:35 PM

I want to try this...but I'm afraid it will affect all willy's everywhere. 😆



SamTherapy posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 6:37 PM

randym77 posted at 12:37AM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4363956

Holy cow, it works.

I didn't see any cows.

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quietrob posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 6:58 PM

A_Sunbeam posted at 4:53PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363620

So? I reckon that at 80 I'm allowed some silly old jokes ...

80? Much respect!!

Now then, I have to try this out...What the dickens? Talk about Free Willy!



randym77 posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 7:27 PM

SamTherapy posted at 7:27PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363964

randym77 posted at 12:37AM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4363956

Holy cow, it works.

I didn't see any cows.

What, no one ever made a cow with an udder switch? :-D


EClark1894 posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 10:14 PM

quietrob posted at 11:11PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363865

EClark1894 posted at 11:13AM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363449

Figure Height is gone from the Figure menu too, but I'm fine with that.😄

What the? I'm NOT fine with that!? With all of the suggestions that have been brought up, someone was tossing and turning all night, woke up in a cold sweat and said, "MUST GET RID OF FIGURE SWITCH!"

Bring back my figure switch!!

The Figure Height selection only ever worked in like the first three versions of Poser, and only on those figures in those versions.




quietrob posted Tue, 24 September 2019 at 11:10 PM

EClark1894 posted at 9:06PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363996

quietrob posted at 11:11PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363865

EClark1894 posted at 11:13AM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363449

Figure Height is gone from the Figure menu too, but I'm fine with that.😄

What the? I'm NOT fine with that!? With all of the suggestions that have been brought up, someone was tossing and turning all night, woke up in a cold sweat and said, "MUST GET RID OF FIGURE SWITCH!"

Bring back my figure switch!!

The Figure Height selection only ever worked in like the first three versions of Poser, and only on those figures in those versions.

I have no experience with Poser 1 through 3 but certainly I'll take your word for it. However, with Poser 7, 9 and 11, it worked fine for me. There was a caveat that with the Heroic figure, the arms needed to be manually lengthen at the bicep but I had already made a simply pose that did only that. It served as a basis for group scenes as you don't want everyone the same height. I may be fighting the wind but I want it known that someone (me) used that figure height selection and want it back.



SamTherapy posted Wed, 25 September 2019 at 2:28 AM

quietrob posted at 8:26AM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364001

EClark1894 posted at 9:06PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363996

quietrob posted at 11:11PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363865

EClark1894 posted at 11:13AM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363449

Figure Height is gone from the Figure menu too, but I'm fine with that.😄

What the? I'm NOT fine with that!? With all of the suggestions that have been brought up, someone was tossing and turning all night, woke up in a cold sweat and said, "MUST GET RID OF FIGURE SWITCH!"

Bring back my figure switch!!

The Figure Height selection only ever worked in like the first three versions of Poser, and only on those figures in those versions.

I have no experience with Poser 1 through 3 but certainly I'll take your word for it. However, with Poser 7, 9 and 11, it worked fine for me. There was a caveat that with the Heroic figure, the arms needed to be manually lengthen at the bicep but I had already made a simply pose that did only that. It served as a basis for group scenes as you don't want everyone the same height. I may be fighting the wind but I want it known that someone (me) used that figure height selection and want it back.

Never used it, meself. For crowds, on the rare occasion I've done a pic with crowds, I like to use a variety of figures, and often use the Poser Casual things, and if necessary, scale legs and stuff like that for a bit of variety.

Maybe Snarly can whip up a script to restore the function if you ask him nicely.

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EClark1894 posted Wed, 25 September 2019 at 4:55 AM

quietrob posted at 5:53AM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364001

EClark1894 posted at 9:06PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363996

quietrob posted at 11:11PM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363865

EClark1894 posted at 11:13AM Tue, 24 September 2019 - #4363449

Figure Height is gone from the Figure menu too, but I'm fine with that.😄

What the? I'm NOT fine with that!? With all of the suggestions that have been brought up, someone was tossing and turning all night, woke up in a cold sweat and said, "MUST GET RID OF FIGURE SWITCH!"

Bring back my figure switch!!

The Figure Height selection only ever worked in like the first three versions of Poser, and only on those figures in those versions.

I have no experience with Poser 1 through 3 but certainly I'll take your word for it. However, with Poser 7, 9 and 11, it worked fine for me. There was a caveat that with the Heroic figure, the arms needed to be manually lengthen at the bicep but I had already made a simply pose that did only that. It served as a basis for group scenes as you don't want everyone the same height. I may be fighting the wind but I want it known that someone (me) used that figure height selection and want it back.

The point I was making is that figures at that time, were made to work with that selection. Starting with Daz figures Vicky 2 and on, they stopped. If you still have an older version of Poser on your computer, you can always use The Figure Height selection in that version.




quietrob posted Wed, 25 September 2019 at 1:08 PM

EClark1894 posted at 11:00AM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364020

The point I was making is that figures at that time, were made to work with that selection. Starting with Daz figures Vicky 2 and on, they stopped. If you still have an older version of Poser on your computer, you can always use The Figure Height selection in that version.

Essentially, what you are saying is that I should an old version of Poser. That is not the best idea I've heard. Still, I'm the one that continued the digression. Proper as we shouldn't let the topic suppress other ideas and opinions.

Let's get back to the fun of this thread by returning to the topic. I believe M2 needed a pint!



quietrob posted Wed, 25 September 2019 at 1:10 PM

quietrob posted at 11:09AM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364076

EClark1894 posted at 11:00AM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364020

The point I was making is that figures at that time, were made to work with that selection. Starting with Daz figures Vicky 2 and on, they stopped. If you still have an older version of Poser on your computer, you can always use The Figure Height selection in that version.

Essentially, what you are saying is that I should use an old version of Poser. That is not the best idea I've heard. Still, I'm the one that continued the digression. Proper as we shouldn't let the topic suppress other ideas and opinions.

Let's get back to the fun of this thread by returning to the topic. I believe M2 needed a pint! (I think that's what they call it across the pond).



Afrodite-Ohki posted Wed, 25 September 2019 at 2:33 PM

I gotta say this thread is serving as a way for me to learn more slangs in english for penises than I needed to know. 😂

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SamTherapy posted Wed, 25 September 2019 at 4:02 PM

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 10:00PM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364086

I gotta say this thread is serving as a way for me to learn more slangs in english for penises than I needed to know. 😂

I know quite a lot more, too. 😁

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SamTherapy posted Wed, 25 September 2019 at 4:07 PM

quietrob posted at 10:03PM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364078

quietrob posted at 11:09AM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364076

EClark1894 posted at 11:00AM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364020

The point I was making is that figures at that time, were made to work with that selection. Starting with Daz figures Vicky 2 and on, they stopped. If you still have an older version of Poser on your computer, you can always use The Figure Height selection in that version.

Essentially, what you are saying is that I should use an old version of Poser. That is not the best idea I've heard. Still, I'm the one that continued the digression. Proper as we shouldn't let the topic suppress other ideas and opinions.

Let's get back to the fun of this thread by returning to the topic. I believe M2 needed a pint! (I think that's what they call it across the pond).

Not quite. A pint would be our traditional measure of beer. Significantly larger than the US version, ours clocks in at around 568 ml, as opposed to your paltry 473 ml.

What poor old Mike was missing was his crown jewels, 3 piece suite, wedding tackle, willy, knob, prick, todger, etc...

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randym77 posted Wed, 25 September 2019 at 4:16 PM

Reminds of that Monty Python classic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPkzkV1icWY


SamTherapy posted Wed, 25 September 2019 at 4:47 PM

randym77 posted at 10:47PM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364098

Reminds of that Monty Python classic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPkzkV1icWY

😂

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quietrob posted Wed, 25 September 2019 at 5:12 PM

SamTherapy posted at 3:06PM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364096

Not quite. A pint would be our traditional measure of beer. Significantly larger than the US version, ours clocks in at around 568 ml, as opposed to your paltry 473 ml.

What poor old Mike was missing was his crown jewels, 3 piece suite, wedding tackle, willy, knob, prick, todger, etc...

3 piece suite? Oh I am totally using that one when my exam comes up next week! I'd never heard of that one but I expect no less from the home of Shakespeare! Well said!

I'd ask for the extra 105 ml the next time I visit Hooters or Wild Wings but unless they studied, no real American knows what a milliliter is! 😁



quietrob posted Wed, 25 September 2019 at 5:14 PM

randym77 posted at 3:13PM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364098

Reminds of that Monty Python classic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPkzkV1icWY

I'd give it a like but thumbs up seems more appropriate! 😀



randym77 posted Wed, 25 September 2019 at 5:16 PM

Nerd 3D has a product at Hivewire that uses geometry switching to simulate drops of water falling. Will that no longer work in the new Poser?


Afrodite-Ohki posted Wed, 25 September 2019 at 5:33 PM

Wedding tackle.

I'm so done. 😂

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EClark1894 posted Wed, 25 September 2019 at 5:46 PM

quietrob posted at 6:45PM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364078

quietrob posted at 11:09AM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364076

EClark1894 posted at 11:00AM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364020

The point I was making is that figures at that time, were made to work with that selection. Starting with Daz figures Vicky 2 and on, they stopped. If you still have an older version of Poser on your computer, you can always use The Figure Height selection in that version.

Essentially, what you are saying is that I should use an old version of Poser. That is not the best idea I've heard. Still, I'm the one that continued the digression. Proper as we shouldn't let the topic suppress other ideas and opinions.

Let's get back to the fun of this thread by returning to the topic. I believe M2 needed a pint! (I think that's what they call it across the pond).

Not really what I was saying at all, but if it works for you...




quietrob posted Wed, 25 September 2019 at 6:09 PM

EClark1894 posted at 4:08PM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364110

quietrob posted at 6:45PM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364078

quietrob posted at 11:09AM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364076

EClark1894 posted at 11:00AM Wed, 25 September 2019 - #4364020

The point I was making is that figures at that time, were made to work with that selection. Starting with Daz figures Vicky 2 and on, they stopped. If you still have an older version of Poser on your computer, you can always use The Figure Height selection in that version.

Essentially, what you are saying is that I should use an old version of Poser. That is not the best idea I've heard. Still, I'm the one that continued the digression. Proper as we shouldn't let the topic suppress other ideas and opinions.

Let's get back to the fun of this thread by returning to the topic. I believe M2 needed a pint! (I think that's what they call it across the pond).

Not really what I was saying at all, but if it works for you...

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samsiahaija posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 1:14 PM

I'm a bit confused. I upgraded my Poser 11 Standard to Pro by installing the new version on top of the old one. I can still frustrate my Mike by switching his willy on and of whenever he misbehaves. Can punish him even more by turning him into a very ugly looking juvenile. Turns good ole' Mike into a very meek and cooperative bloke.

Point is; both functions are still in my figure menu and working as they were intended to.


SamTherapy posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 1:42 PM

samsiahaija posted at 7:41PM Thu, 26 September 2019 - #4364195

I'm a bit confused. I upgraded my Poser 11 Standard to Pro by installing the new version on top of the old one. I can still frustrate my Mike by switching his willy on and of whenever he misbehaves. Can punish him even more by turning him into a very ugly looking juvenile. Turns good ole' Mike into a very meek and cooperative bloke.

Point is; both functions are still in my figure menu and working as they were intended to.

Poser 11.2? The Bondware version? If so, that's odd, unless they sneaked out another release with it restored.

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Byrdie posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 2:00 PM

I just opened it up and told it to check for updates. Sure enough, it says that there's a newer version available. Think I'll see what it does.

Just noticed the date on file is Sept. 23, so maybe not today-recent but still newer than the one from upgrade day.


samsiahaija posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 2:09 PM

I downloaded and installed September the 19th.

Here's a screenshot:

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quietrob posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 2:10 PM

SamTherapy posted at 11:59AM Thu, 26 September 2019 - #4364198

samsiahaija posted at 7:41PM Thu, 26 September 2019 - #4364195

I'm a bit confused. I upgraded my Poser 11 Standard to Pro by installing the new version on top of the old one. I can still frustrate my Mike by switching his willy on and of whenever he misbehaves. Can punish him even more by turning him into a very ugly looking juvenile. Turns good ole' Mike into a very meek and cooperative bloke.

Point is; both functions are still in my figure menu and working as they were intended to.

Poser 11.2? The Bondware version? If so, that's odd, unless they sneaked out another release with it restored.

Hmm, I was a juvenile, not pretty, so I'm glad the parentals didn't have that switch too! 😄

@Samisiahaija. I think there has been other changes to the FIGURES menu as well. They might have been there for all I know. Like the lock hands selection. I don't remember that being there. It might've been there all along and I just didn't notice it. The wife bought me Poser Pro 11 (PP11 ) Upgrade from Poser 9 as a gift. Maybe that's the only version that's affected? All I know is that Sam T. EClark and Me all don't have it and you do. There is the proof right there! How did ya do that? Perhaps they did sneak a new version. Can't blame them after the Servers being strained last time. Gradual is the best way. Just ease it in. Bit by bit.

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samsiahaija posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 2:15 PM

I didn't do a thing. I installed PPro 11.2 over my Poser Standard 11.1. And this is what it turned out like.

Only thing I did after that was installing Snarlygribbly's Python fix to get Reality running again. That fix restores older Python scripts. Maybe that did the trick?

I'm on a Windows 7 Pro 64 PC by the way.


hborre posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 2:17 PM

I don't have figure height nor genitalia in my menu and I have a more recent build 11.2.286. And I also overlaid current version to my original 11.1 install.


SamTherapy posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 2:34 PM

Well, blinking flip!

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Byrdie posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 2:39 PM

I also downloaded on the 19th and my Figure menu does not look like that. Did not see Genitals until I input the bit of code Snarlygribbly mentioned a few posts up the thread.


samsiahaija posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 3:03 PM

The one thing I did in my Poser installation was installing the Python fix by Snarlygribbly... Even makes EZSkin 2 and EZ Mat work in Poser 11.2

You might try that...

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Byrdie posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 3:11 PM

So I just installed the update and my Poser 11 Pro is version 11.2.218. There is no change at all in my Figure menu but I see from that screencap above it is version 11.2.272 that has the Genitalia and Figure Height included. I loaded up Mike 2 from my old P7 runtime and he appeared in all his glory -- guess that bit of Python code is still working -- but there's no way to tuck it back without a gaping hole appearing in his hip. Which will play merry hell with some of the outfits I have for him as they depend on that switch properly working. True, it's been donkey's ages since I last rendered an M2 either clothed or nekkid but I'd still like to have that option.

Just noticed the previous reply. Thanks, installing that fix now.


Byrdie posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 3:37 PM

Got the AVFix script, installed it where it says and nope, still no change in my Figure menu options. Mikes tackle still shows on loading and still can't be hidden correctly. Looks like I'll have to keep him away from Poser 11 or he'll have a breakdown.


hborre posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 3:54 PM

Ditto. Just tried both scripts again and no change in the menu.


SamTherapy posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 4:20 PM

Same here, no change.

Boo and hoo. :(

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quietrob posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 5:00 PM

Facts: Byrdie, SamT, hborre and I are all missing the same thing.
samsiahaija is using version 2.72. He then installed Snarly's fix.

Going forward. I don't know about the rest of you blokes but I am at the same version as samsiahaija. Windows 10. My wedding tackle switch works but I don't have the figure height and genitalia on my Figure Menu. I trust Snarlygribbly. I have my own FBX import issues that I'm working on but I'll give it a shot tonight.



hborre posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 5:05 PM

Funny thing, the topics under discussion, Figure Height and Genitalia, are still covered in the manual. Someone screwed up royally.


Snarlygribbly posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 5:18 PM

My AVFix is not a panacea for all problems :) It is intended to address a specific reason for certain scripts failing, specifically where they rely upon the old Poser version format (xx.x.x.xxxxx) used by SM, now changed to xx.x.xxx by Bondware. AVFix simply tricks Poser into reporting its version number in the old format. It won't fix any other problems!

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randym77 posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 5:23 PM

hborre posted at 5:22PM Thu, 26 September 2019 - #4364254

Funny thing, the topics under discussion, Figure Height and Genitalia, are still covered in the manual. Someone screwed up royally.

I don't think they updated the manual at all. It still has a section on Wardrobe Wizard.


hborre posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 5:35 PM

I didn't expect it to be a fix-all for the final Poser scripting; someone just simply botched the script under the assumption that those particular codes were not working or useless, not taking under consideration that there are still content that is keyed into the old method. I'm puzzled that no administrator has chimed in yet to address the issue. Sure, we could file a support ticket which I'm sure has already been done, but I think we need some reassurance that someone is looking into it and we might have a fix soon.


Snarlygribbly posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 5:36 PM

So… you guys got me interested in this topic, so had a little play with a text editor.

Anyway, look what I have now :-D

haha.jpg

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Snarlygribbly posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 5:50 PM

You can have fun with this :)

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hborre posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 5:52 PM

Now we're talking! Do we have an on/off switch that has been toggled into the off position in the final version? Need to find out what Snarly really is.


SamTherapy posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 6:14 PM

My question is, once the Genitals are enabled with your code input, what's the code to disable 'em. There are times when it's handy to have a Mike 2 sans wedding tackle, but without a great big hole in his groin.

Again, I could edit the Cr2 but it'd be more convenient to have it available from the menu.

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samsiahaija posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 6:35 PM

Snarlygribbly posted at 6:34PM Thu, 26 September 2019 - #4364264

You can have fun with this :)

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The Willy Switch.

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This thread gives me the Willies....


Snarlygribbly posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 6:44 PM

SamTherapy posted at 12:43AM Fri, 27 September 2019 - #4364270

My question is, once the Genitals are enabled with your code input, what's the code to disable 'em. There are times when it's handy to have a Mike 2 sans wedding tackle, but without a great big hole in his groin.

The code is a toggle. Just enter the very same code again to switch it back off. Ad infinitum :)

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SamTherapy posted Thu, 26 September 2019 at 6:49 PM

Aha! Said Alan Partridge. :)

Cheers, mate.

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Byrdie posted Fri, 27 September 2019 at 12:59 PM

Thanks for the advice, I'll keep that code handy and apply as necessary. My Windows version is 7 Pro -- got Windows 10 Home on my laptop and I hate it! -- and my PoserPro installation was a fresh one since the old Smith Micro install died with my last hard drive. Maybe that makes a difference in what the Figures Menu shows?


Miss B posted Fri, 27 September 2019 at 1:28 PM

hborre posted at 2:26PM Fri, 27 September 2019 - #4364210

I don't have figure height nor genitalia in my menu and I have a more recent build 11.2.286. And I also overlaid current version to my original 11.1 install.

I don't have the Figure Height list either with the .286 update I downloaded yesterday, and I never thought to look with the .274 update I downloaded on 9/19/19, so don't know if it was there then, or not.

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samsiahaija posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 3:25 AM

I updated to the 11.2.286 build and still have both the genital switch and the figure height tools. Whatever is causing the disappearances, it is not the version number. I'm still baffled as to why my Poser is unaffected.

(At the other hand, I'm the one with the mysterious disappearing and reappearing renders in my render cache.)


Snarlygribbly posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 4:54 AM

samsiahaija posted at 10:50AM Sat, 28 September 2019 - #4364534

I updated to the 11.2.286 build and still have both the genital switch and the figure height tools. Whatever is causing the disappearances, it is not the version number. I'm still baffled as to why my Poser is unaffected.

(At the other hand, I'm the one with the mysterious disappearing and reappearing renders in my render cache.)

The Poser menu is defined in a simple text file. Perhaps it is not being overwritten by the installer unless you uninstall the existing Poser first? I edited the text file on my system to add back in the missing menu options, and had some fun changing the menu text at the same time, as shown in a previous post. I don't know why the menus were changed for 11.2, but that it is easy to change them back is enough for me :)

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samsiahaija posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 5:22 AM

@snarlygribbly: I have installed two consecutive updates of Poser 11.2 and uninstalled my previous versions at both occasions. The cause must be something else.....


quietrob posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 7:03 AM

Snarlygribbly posted at 5:00AM Sat, 28 September 2019 - #4364536

samsiahaija posted at 10:50AM Sat, 28 September 2019 - #4364534

I updated to the 11.2.286 build and still have both the genital switch and the figure height tools. Whatever is causing the disappearances, it is not the version number. I'm still baffled as to why my Poser is unaffected.

(At the other hand, I'm the one with the mysterious disappearing and reappearing renders in my render cache.)

The Poser menu is defined in a simple text file. Perhaps it is not being overwritten by the installer unless you uninstall the existing Poser first? I edited the text file on my system to add back in the missing menu options, and had some fun changing the menu text at the same time, as shown in a previous post. I don't know why the menus were changed for 11.2, but that it is easy to change them back is enough for me :)

Waitaminnit! Are you saying that you also have the menu options back? Can you show how to do that? At least point me in the right direction?



Snarlygribbly posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 7:20 AM

quietrob posted at 1:17PM Sat, 28 September 2019 - #4364544

Snarlygribbly posted at 5:00AM Sat, 28 September 2019 - #4364536

Waitaminnit! Are you saying that you also have the menu options back? Can you show how to do that? At least point me in the right direction?

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quietrob posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 8:44 AM

Thanks Snarly! I'll try it as soon as I get home! And thanks for clearing up the misconceptions of what your scripts can and can't do. Mucho appreciated, bro!



structure posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 10:40 AM Forum Coordinator

and for those of you uncomfortable with editing the file

I have put 2 scripts in freestuff for you.

The genitals and figure height options have been removed, since these will be unsupported going forward. Both functions are considered obsolete they will not be making an official return. For now you can edit the xrc file or use my scripts I make no guarantee as to their efficacy in future updates.

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Snarlygribbly posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 12:25 PM

structure posted at 6:22PM Sat, 28 September 2019 - #4364567

and for those of you uncomfortable with editing the file

I have put 2 scripts in freestuff for you.

The genitals and figure height options have been removed, since these will be unsupported going forward. Both functions are considered obsolete they will not be making an official return. For now you can edit the xrc file or use my scripts I make no guarantee as to their efficacy in future updates.

You might want to check the figure height script. The user is asked "What height do toy want?", and you've left in the willy toggle so James flashes his bits when you try to change his height :-D Edit: Also, you use the wx.SingleChoiceDialog without importing wx first, so it errors (if no other script has imported wx first). "NameError: global name 'wx' is not defined" is the error displayed.

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structure posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 12:40 PM Forum Coordinator

lol oops - checking it now - Thanks Snarly!

Edited - and uploaded

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quietrob posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 1:12 PM

And the last horse struggles just to finish the race...What did I do wrong? Do I...Nope. I can't even form the right question.

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structure posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 2:57 PM Forum Coordinator

the script has been updated Rob, please download the new version

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Byrdie posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 3:06 PM

Well, the Willy Switch works with that script. However attempting to get the Figure height option to show results in this: Traceback (most recent call last): File "Q:Testtoggleheight.py", line 36, in File "Q:Testtoggleheight.py", line 17, in Choose NameError: global name 'wx' is not defined

And yes, I am using the updated version.


structure posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 3:47 PM Forum Coordinator

The file has been checked and uploaded again

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Snarlygribbly posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 4:05 PM

structure posted at 10:03PM Sat, 28 September 2019 - #4364627

The file has been checked and uploaded again

this is a copy of the file - Figureheight

It still says "What height do toy want?". Just saying.

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structure posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 4:07 PM Forum Coordinator

text has now been edited

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quietrob posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 4:24 PM

structure posted at 2:15PM Sat, 28 September 2019 - #4364634

text has now been edited

😀 The script most definitely works! Redownloading for the text edited version. Wasn't there a script or panel called Toy Box? Considering the initial nature of the thread, I can't believe the Fem bots haven't complained and initiated death by Snu-Snu! (Please?)

Proof! 2fast.jpg

Don't forget the Tail of Woe (Just noticed the spelling. GENIUS!!) Snu-Snu.jpg



gate posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 4:48 PM

Reading all these threads after the change of owner of Poser and the Update that should of been just a "bridge" release actually just for the activation shows allot of changes and rather ones that diminished the capabilities of Poser ... I wounder if it is that so many errors occurred . things like Pytons that don't work parts of poser that get lost and issues while activation ... Probably there is a huuge blacklist of unreported issues, but thank to Independent users that engage them selves to fix the issues with apps scripts and Pytons it all seems to make things work again ( Actually would be the task of the owner ) Poser is on its best way to be a " Open Source " Program just like blender . People seem to do a really great work on finding solutions for the issues that sure is really cool .... and sure deserve great respect for it.

The really positive aspect is that allot of people start getting interest in the build of such a program starting to learn how to change things the way it works for there own benefits.


structure posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 6:11 PM Forum Coordinator

Toybox was one of netherworks scripts, available in the marketplace

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quietrob posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 6:13 PM

These independent users certainly have my thanks. Structure, Snarlygribbly and you have really brought me back and engaged my gray cells again. By the way, My udemy class was updated. Perhaps I can find MESH on the layout screen. (Yes that's where I've been as well)



SamTherapy posted Sat, 28 September 2019 at 6:29 PM

quietrob posted at 12:23AM Sun, 29 September 2019 - #4364635

structure posted at 2:15PM Sat, 28 September 2019 - #4364634

text has now been edited

😀 The script most definitely works! Redownloading for the text edited version. Wasn't there a script or panel called Toy Box? Considering the initial nature of the thread, I can't believe the Fem bots haven't complained and initiated death by Snu-Snu! (Please?)

Proof! 2fast.jpg

Don't forget the Tail of Woe (Just noticed the spelling. GENIUS!!) Snu-Snu.jpg

I did say, earlier in the thread, that in the interests of equality it should be named the Minge/Willy switch. 😁

Some of the Poser gals have switchable lady bits, Jessi and Judy, for example. That's the old, "Flipper" Jessi, that is, not the newer one, which for some bizarre reason, is missing from my versions of Poser.

Looking at those two figures - and a few more of the native figures, I can't believe anyone actually signed off on 'em. Alyson, for example, is so ugly she makes Judy look almost human. She looks like Arnie with norks. Gabe performed a miracle with her, that's for sure; the default version could curdle milk.

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quietrob posted Wed, 30 October 2019 at 2:20 PM

Unfortunately, I have more free time again. Just in time not to have extra money when the holidays begin. However, this gives me more time to get back to my many projects.

Editing the XRC file to add figure height to my menu is one of them. Thanks to structure, I can use the python script that's gives me the function I want. However, I feel greedy for knowledge. I want to edit the XRC file to add it to my Poser menu so like the Yangs said to the Khoms. "That which is ours is ours again. It will never be taken from us again."

So I'm looking for help by the guru's. I'm only hesitant to include my XRC.UI file because it's so large. Sooooo, without further ado, what do I look for? Where do I include it and what do I include? I may have to do this again because I haven't updated since 2.272 as I waited for any potential bugs to shake out. It may be needed but it wasn't mandatory as was the September update.



adzan posted Wed, 30 October 2019 at 5:16 PM

I noticed on one of the bondware announcements that they had removed the genital menu item. Had the same problem with Daz when they broke the geometry switching in studio for the older figures, took a lot of bug filling to get them to fix it as there are still a few of us who use the figures. Gosha by Smay also uses the genitals on/off command but fortunately Smay had the foresight to include an on/off dial on the hip Parameters to swap the geometry.



quietrob posted Wed, 30 October 2019 at 5:54 PM

You're not alone in using older figures. I do as well. But I didn't know that Gosha was done by smay. He was one of my favorites! Are we talking about geometry switching his wedding tackle?



adzan posted Wed, 30 October 2019 at 6:47 PM

quietrob posted at 6:41PM Wed, 30 October 2019 - #4368729

You're not alone in using older figures. I do as well. But I didn't know that Gosha was done by smay. He was one of my favorites! Are we talking about geometry switching his wedding tackle?

Indeed. I doubt many people noticed, his Winkie is tiny even when it's turned on lol



SamTherapy posted Wed, 30 October 2019 at 7:11 PM

adzan posted at 12:10AM Thu, 31 October 2019 - #4368738

quietrob posted at 6:41PM Wed, 30 October 2019 - #4368729

You're not alone in using older figures. I do as well. But I didn't know that Gosha was done by smay. He was one of my favorites! Are we talking about geometry switching his wedding tackle?

Indeed. I doubt many people noticed, his Winkie is tiny even when it's turned on lol

Maybe he's part gorilla. According to what I heard - ISTR it was TrekkieGrrl who told me (I don't know how she knows) - they have very tiny willies. About the size of a cigarette, IIRC. 😆

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quietrob posted Wed, 30 October 2019 at 8:29 PM

SamTherapy posted at 6:25PM Wed, 30 October 2019 - #4368742

adzan posted at 12:10AM Thu, 31 October 2019 - #4368738

quietrob posted at 6:41PM Wed, 30 October 2019 - #4368729

You're not alone in using older figures. I do as well. But I didn't know that Gosha was done by smay. He was one of my favorites! Are we talking about geometry switching his wedding tackle?

Indeed. I doubt many people noticed, his Winkie is tiny even when it's turned on lol

Maybe he's part gorilla. According to what I heard - ISTR it was TrekkieGrrl who told me (I don't know how she knows) - they have very tiny willies. About the size of a cigarette, IIRC. 😆

I had a request on this page but it's too much fun to stop now. I'll repost in a new thread. In the meantime.... I didn't know that Gorilla's have tiny ding ding's! I mean, they're freakin' gorillas. No wonder they seem mad all the time.

Now then, TrekkieGrrl is a source of ahem, information? IIRC She has a wonderful freebie page. I'm 99% sure there was a "package" freebie. Everything from donut (!) to Horseshoe. Suddenly all the pieces begin to fall into place....hmmmmmmmmm



SamTherapy posted Wed, 30 October 2019 at 9:51 PM

quietrob posted at 2:45AM Thu, 31 October 2019 - #4368746

SamTherapy posted at 6:25PM Wed, 30 October 2019 - #4368742

adzan posted at 12:10AM Thu, 31 October 2019 - #4368738

quietrob posted at 6:41PM Wed, 30 October 2019 - #4368729

You're not alone in using older figures. I do as well. But I didn't know that Gosha was done by smay. He was one of my favorites! Are we talking about geometry switching his wedding tackle?

Indeed. I doubt many people noticed, his Winkie is tiny even when it's turned on lol

Maybe he's part gorilla. According to what I heard - ISTR it was TrekkieGrrl who told me (I don't know how she knows) - they have very tiny willies. About the size of a cigarette, IIRC. 😆

I had a request on this page but it's too much fun to stop now. I'll repost in a new thread. In the meantime.... I didn't know that Gorilla's have tiny ding ding's! I mean, they're freakin' gorillas. No wonder they seem mad all the time.

Now then, TrekkieGrrl is a source of ahem, information? IIRC She has a wonderful freebie page. I'm 99% sure there was a "package" freebie. Everything from donut (!) to Horseshoe. Suddenly all the pieces begin to fall into place....hmmmmmmmmm

Gorillas are generally peaceful and gentle creatures. They will usually only fight to protect their families. Chimpanzees, however - our closest living relatives, genetically* - are a whole nother thing. Violent, murderous, cannibalistic rapists. According to anthropoligical studies, if they lived in as close proximity as humans, there would be a murder rate that would make the worst favelas in Sao Paulo look like a Sunday School picnic.

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Rance01 posted Thu, 31 October 2019 at 6:14 PM

The gorilla, er, thing, as it compares to the size of their human cousins, has to do with how big our noggins are at birth. Humans are born with enormous noggins.

Which doesn't make much sense in Gosha's case, since is his head is about as big and round as any toon out there. Have to say Adzan, it wasn't very discrete naming names that way. One thing you can say about Gosha: he has huge acorns.


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Rance01 posted at 7:05PM Thu, 31 October 2019 - #4368816

The gorilla, er, thing, as it compares to the size of their human cousins, has to do with how big our noggins are at birth. Humans are born with enormous noggins.

Which doesn't make much sense in Gosha's case, since is his head is about as big and round as any toon out there. Have to say Adzan, it wasn't very discrete naming names that way. One thing you can say about Gosha: he has huge acorns.

Lol. Goshas nether region reminds me of the Crazy Frog the music videos, sadly poor old Crazy Frog was given a Penectomy and Castrated by the UK's music censors, so at least Gosha is still a little boy and not a eunuch



Rance01 posted Fri, 01 November 2019 at 7:43 AM

It is not the size of the army Adzan, but the ferocity of the attack!Gosha'sAcorn.jpg


Notsrella posted Sun, 03 November 2019 at 7:58 AM

Hello, I just happened to read Sam's original post and dragged Michael 2 out into the light, selected 'body parts' and there was 'genitals' with the visible (or not) option. ( I left them invisible as it is Sunday as I write!) Sorry if someone has already pointed this out. As for the figure height button that definitely seems to have gone.


quietrob posted Sun, 03 November 2019 at 12:30 PM

Notsrella posted at 10:28AM Sun, 03 November 2019 - #4369041

Hello, I just happened to read Sam's original post and dragged Michael 2 out into the light, selected 'body parts' and there was 'genitals' with the visible (or not) option. ( I left them invisible as it is Sunday as I write!) Sorry if someone has already pointed this out. As for the figure height button that definitely seems to have gone.

If you check back in the thread, you'll find that structure has generously issued a python script that address both the missing figure height button and the missing ahem, wedding tackle of Mike 2. I suggest you check it out as this thread is not only informative but also currently is the most hilarious thread in the forum.



quietrob posted Sun, 03 November 2019 at 12:32 PM

Rance01 posted at 10:31AM Sun, 03 November 2019 - #4368859

It is not the size of the army Adzan, but the ferocity of the attack!Gosha'sAcorn.jpg

Oh that look of envy! The Hive Gorilla is clearly coveting Gosha's much larger...spear.



Rance01 posted Sun, 03 November 2019 at 1:20 PM

The gorilla is actually an old DAZ3D model: GorillaLE. Pulled and installed him for the picture from one of my earliest archive discs (an old EXE file), so I must have had him for a long time. No texture map for the poor devil. It was probably not too long after DAZ3D spun off from Zygote.

The guy with the enviable acorns is Smay's Gosha.

I always peek in on the SamTherapy threads; you SamTherapy, are a card. I recall some long while ago a thread about cell phone automatic spell checking, you sexting your significant other that when you got home you were going to 'kick her puppy...' Shot coffee out my nose. After that, I never sip beverages and read your posts at the same time...


SamTherapy posted Sun, 03 November 2019 at 3:27 PM

Rance01 posted at 9:25PM Sun, 03 November 2019 - #4369079

The gorilla is actually an old DAZ3D model: GorillaLE. Pulled and installed him for the picture from one of my earliest archive discs (an old EXE file), so I must have had him for a long time. No texture map for the poor devil. It was probably not too long after DAZ3D spun off from Zygote.

The guy with the enviable acorns is Smay's Gosha.

I always peek in on the SamTherapy threads; you SamTherapy, are a card. I recall some long while ago a thread about cell phone automatic spell checking, you sexting your significant other that when you got home you were going to 'kick her puppy...' Shot coffee out my nose. After that, I never sip beverages and read your posts at the same time...

I really don't remember the "Kick your puppy" one but I'll gladly take credit for it. 😁

Now I come to think of it, ISTR it was more along the lines of "Cook my sock". 😂

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Rance01 posted Sun, 03 November 2019 at 5:21 PM

"Subject: OT and adult content - Sexting"

Search here is a little rough. Also, not getting email notifications when anyone replies. The other thing I find annoying is my browser logs me out whenever I close it (which is probably a good thing), and when I browse the forums and want to log on to post, the site redirects me to the market place... Site should take you back to the page you were looking at, not high jack you off somewhere else. And yes, 'Notify me when someone replies" is checked.

  1. Not surprised you don't remember the post.

Be Well,


SamTherapy posted Sun, 03 November 2019 at 8:11 PM

Rance01 posted at 2:09AM Mon, 04 November 2019 - #4369100

"Subject: OT and adult content - Sexting"

Search here is a little rough. Also, not getting email notifications when anyone replies. The other thing I find annoying is my browser logs me out whenever I close it (which is probably a good thing), and when I browse the forums and want to log on to post, the site redirects me to the market place... Site should take you back to the page you were looking at, not high jack you off somewhere else. And yes, 'Notify me when someone replies" is checked.

  1. Not surprised you don't remember the post.

Be Well,

Crikey! I normally have a very good memory, too. Still, can't win 'em all. Best thing is, we don't have any dogs, so there's that in my favour. 😁

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Kerya posted Sun, 03 November 2019 at 11:55 PM

Rance01 posted at 11:55PM Sun, 03 November 2019 - #4369079

The gorilla is actually an old DAZ3D model: GorillaLE. Pulled and installed him for the picture from one of my earliest archive discs (an old EXE file), so I must have had him for a long time. No texture map for the poor devil. It was probably not too long after DAZ3D spun off from Zygote.

The guy with the enviable acorns is Smay's Gosha.

I always peek in on the SamTherapy threads; you SamTherapy, are a card. I recall some long while ago a thread about cell phone automatic spell checking, you sexting your significant other that when you got home you were going to 'kick her puppy...' Shot coffee out my nose. After that, I never sip beverages and read your posts at the same time...

Free textures for the Gorilla: http://trekkiegrrrl.dk/tex2.htm

Watching this thread for fun ...


Rance01 posted Mon, 04 November 2019 at 6:36 AM

Thanks for the heads up, Kerya. I will check them out. Only just blew the dust off the angry beast (and now we know why he is so mad). Long day ahead so the poor devil will have to wait.

Be Well, Rªnce


SamTherapy posted Mon, 04 November 2019 at 8:32 AM

I bought the Gorilla, or at least, got it as part of a bundle. Not currently installed but I know mine came with textures, so not the LE version, the full one. No willy, though; that would have been a bit odd, I guess, particularly if they had a separate one like the M3/D3 gens, or as I called 'em, the Millennium Willies. Well, they had Millennium Teeth, Millennium Cat, Millennium Horse, Millennium Suppositories, Millennium Toilet Brush, Millennium Botulism and so on, so it seemed appropriate at the time.

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Rance01 posted Mon, 04 November 2019 at 8:26 PM

Gorilla.jpg

About the size of a what????


Rance01 posted Mon, 04 November 2019 at 8:38 PM

Crud. Re-reading through the thread and:

"Maybe he's part gorilla. According to what I heard - ISTR it was TrekkieGrrl who told me (I don't know how she knows) - they have very tiny willies. About the size of a cigarette, IIRC. ?"

Could have swore I read pencil the first time through. Funny thing, I had a cigarette in my runtime but had to go and search out a pencil. Had plenty of ink pens, sure, but no pencils... TrekkieGrrl's 'Silver Back' and, for what it's worth, McGyver's pencil.

Been a really long day. Best wishes all, R


SamTherapy posted Tue, 05 November 2019 at 2:34 AM

Rance01 posted at 8:33AM Tue, 05 November 2019 - #4369208

Crud. Re-reading through the thread and:

"Maybe he's part gorilla. According to what I heard - ISTR it was TrekkieGrrl who told me (I don't know how she knows) - they have very tiny willies. About the size of a cigarette, IIRC. ?"

Could have swore I read pencil the first time through. Funny thing, I had a cigarette in my runtime but had to go and search out a pencil. Had plenty of ink pens, sure, but no pencils... TrekkieGrrl's 'Silver Back' and, for what it's worth, McGyver's pencil.

Been a really long day. Best wishes all, R

As coincidence would have it, the words pencil and penis derive from a common root word. 😃

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Rance01 posted Tue, 05 November 2019 at 5:02 AM

A wealth of information. From the Latin I would guess? I think maybe when I first heard about Gorilla stingers the analogy might have been pencil. And then there is the ol' saying, pencil-dick. When I think of it, I used a cigarette not all that long ago to make a pic for my brother. He has a thing for cows. Some folks might find the image at the end of this link disturbing. I apologies in advance.

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Rance01 posted Tue, 05 November 2019 at 6:53 AM

Used to be a number of resources available for the old Michael 2 figure (and his junk) online. Took a short stroll in the Wayback Machine but couldn't find the author I was thinking of. I could swear there used to be a Poser user named 'Penguin' out there... There was an old Web Ring with any number of 'fringe' Poser users. Some of the users were not so fringe: Traveler and Bushi were two I recognized. Anyone (anyone that's been around a while) remember Foxhollow? I found the 'eroticscratchpad dot com' from (c) 2001 and some of the links from the era still function. What about 'Sha'? That name rings a bell, but I can't place him or her.

Poser has come a long way.

Tagging the post. If anyone tries to go down the rabbit hole they might witness something they can't unsee.


SamTherapy posted Tue, 05 November 2019 at 11:25 AM

Rance01 posted at 5:24PM Tue, 05 November 2019 - #4369234

Used to be a number of resources available for the old Michael 2 figure (and his junk) online. Took a short stroll in the Wayback Machine but couldn't find the author I was thinking of. I could swear there used to be a Poser user named 'Penguin' out there... There was an old Web Ring with any number of 'fringe' Poser users. Some of the users were not so fringe: Traveler and Bushi were two I recognized. Anyone (anyone that's been around a while) remember Foxhollow? I found the 'eroticscratchpad dot com' from (c) 2001 and some of the links from the era still function. What about 'Sha'? That name rings a bell, but I can't place him or her.

Poser has come a long way.

Tagging the post. If anyone tries to go down the rabbit hole they might witness something they can't unsee.

Re: The Poser user's name... Penguinisto, maybe? He's still around and posts from time to time.

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Rance01 posted Tue, 05 November 2019 at 12:18 PM

Not sure SamTherapy. The age is about right; been knocking around here since 2001. Not sure I knew him or her from Renderosity or just as a poster to the Web Ring. That was ages ago. I do have two old zip files with M2 junk morphs in them. Looks like I downloaded them back in 2002.


SamTherapy posted Tue, 05 November 2019 at 2:09 PM

Well, Pengy has been around the Poser scene for a long, long time. Way before I found this site, he was an established part of the community, and ISTR, creator of a number of Poser items. Could well be yer man.

BTW, you can just call me Sam, or Paul, seeing as that's me real name. I think most people here know both my names and that I answer to either. My long suffering wife calls me "You annoying bastard" most of the time, though. 😂

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Rance01 posted Tue, 05 November 2019 at 3:24 PM

There were Rendo links from the Web Ring of old too, and early, early versions of the site from (c) 2000 +.

I found Renderosity a short time after I first bought models from Zygote. There was an artist here who posted an image and I wrote wondering if he would share the name of the Victoria 2 texture he used. Can't remember the name of the gallery artist, but he generously answered and informed me the name of the product was StefyZZ's Yuma. I am pretty sure that was the first product I ever bought from the Market Place. It was a slippery slope from there. There was a time I was spending more loot buying clothes for Victoria than I was for myself.

Be well Sam, and long may you post, Rance


SamTherapy posted Tue, 05 November 2019 at 7:17 PM

Many thanks, Rance, you too. 😄

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quietrob posted Tue, 05 November 2019 at 8:25 PM

@Rance I looked up eroticscratchpad.com...it's dead. I did some scouring and ended up at Coderscorner.com...it's dead. Thanks to Xurge for keeping a Poser alternative alive.

Penguinisto? I thought that might be the all knowing penguin that destroys the grading curve. Haven't heard from him.

Back on Topic...

Thought about going to the Zoo, staring a gorilla in his eyes, hitch up my belt once to watch him cry. I let the dark side slip back so I'm letting him off the hook. I think I might just punch a dolphin instead. Arrogant Blokes ever since they got their own TV show.

Way back in 2008 I still remember posting a single question. How long before I get over saving money for models before saving money for food. When does this never ending crackware stop?

The answer was the same. Never. Now days due to my economic reboot, I've stopped but I know as soon as I got something permanent...well, that new elegant hair by Rpublishing looks amazing...I still want a mink coat for Poser and...Hmmm, if I skip eating for 1.75 days...hmmm



Kerya posted Wed, 06 November 2019 at 1:44 AM

Rance01 posted at 1:43AM Wed, 06 November 2019 - #4369234

Used to be a number of resources available for the old Michael 2 figure (and his junk) online. Took a short stroll in the Wayback Machine but couldn't find the author I was thinking of. I could swear there used to be a Poser user named 'Penguin' out there... There was an old Web Ring with any number of 'fringe' Poser users. Some of the users were not so fringe: Traveler and Bushi were two I recognized. Anyone (anyone that's been around a while) remember Foxhollow? I found the 'eroticscratchpad dot com' from (c) 2001 and some of the links from the era still function. What about 'Sha'? That name rings a bell, but I can't place him or her.

Poser has come a long way.

Tagging the post. If anyone tries to go down the rabbit hole they might witness something they can't unsee.

Sha


EClark1894 posted Wed, 06 November 2019 at 4:32 AM

SamTherapy posted at 5:32AM Wed, 06 November 2019 - #4369272

Well, Pengy has been around the Poser scene for a long, long time. Way before I found this site, he was an established part of the community, and ISTR, creator of a number of Poser items. Could well be yer man.

BTW, you can just call me Sam, or Paul, seeing as that's me real name. I think most people here know both my names and that I answer to either. My long suffering wife calls me "You annoying bastard" most of the time, though. 😂

And that's her pet name for him. 😆




Rance01 posted Wed, 06 November 2019 at 5:39 AM

Thank Kerya. Maybe that's where I remember seeing the name Sha.

quietrob: never trust a dolphin. You have to wonder why they are always smiling, and the only logical conclusion is that THEY ARE part of the overarching Illuminati plot (or anti-Illuminati plot - can't remember which). You will have to read Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson to get the skinny on dolphins. I think Douglas Adams had something to say about them too. As for the eroticscratchpad, I was speaking to the version still hanging on the WaybackMachine: https://archive.org/web/web.php.

Early versions of Renderosity and other goodies will be around for as long as the Internet Archives survives. Sort of like seeing old pictures of yourself wearing those awful clothes and hairdos from the 1970s... Paisley, whatever happened to paisley?


SamTherapy posted Wed, 06 November 2019 at 8:19 AM

EClark1894 posted at 2:18PM Wed, 06 November 2019 - #4369337

SamTherapy posted at 5:32AM Wed, 06 November 2019 - #4369272

Well, Pengy has been around the Poser scene for a long, long time. Way before I found this site, he was an established part of the community, and ISTR, creator of a number of Poser items. Could well be yer man.

BTW, you can just call me Sam, or Paul, seeing as that's me real name. I think most people here know both my names and that I answer to either. My long suffering wife calls me "You annoying bastard" most of the time, though. 😂

And that's her pet name for him. 😆

True. When she's really annoyed she calls me "Shut Up And Fuck Off!" 😁

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Rance01 posted Wed, 06 November 2019 at 10:06 AM

::: head slap :::: I now realize I recognized the name Sha because I did (fairly) recently load 'Chou for A3' into one of my runtimes. Still not sure if it is the same Sha as was knocking around back in 2001 or no, but you were right, Kerya, that is where I most recently encountered the name. Now, off to find a nice paisley texture...


Penguinisto posted Thu, 19 December 2019 at 2:09 PM

Rance01 posted at 12:05PM Thu, 19 December 2019 - #4369234

Used to be a number of resources available for the old Michael 2 figure (and his junk) online. Took a short stroll in the Wayback Machine but couldn't find the author I was thinking of. I could swear there used to be a Poser user named 'Penguin' out there...

They're not talking about me... I'm just an old asshole. :p

(Apologies - noticed this while searching for a link I'd posted here awhile back... Rendo's forum search, as always, is less than stellar... but it got me here so it's not as terrible as it seems. :) )

I never made much for Mike 2, much less his tackle... some of the graybeards at Renderotica might be able to point to some useful bits, tho'. That or the ancient universal freebie(?) pecker from Ghastly might fit with a bit of wedging... assuming it still exists somewhere.


SamTherapy posted Thu, 19 December 2019 at 3:36 PM

Sorry, Peng. My mistake.

Now I think of it, I believe Arduino made an add on tallywhacker for Mike 2. Morphable, IIRC, to indicate he was pleased to see you. Or was it the lads at GPA?

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Penguinisto posted Thu, 19 December 2019 at 4:15 PM

GPA, I suspect... Arduino focused on ladybits mostly (if memory serves, on most figures he did a morph for the 'innie' parts, and a conforming set of labia to go around the forward one, to put it all in semi-delicate terms.)

My brain should really not know and retain things like this... it's going to scare the crap out of all the other inmates at whatever nursing home I eventually wind up in.


Rance01 posted Thu, 19 December 2019 at 7:34 PM

The site and bits I am thinking of are old and came in the form of morph target OBJ files. The zip file has the contact: foxhollow@eroticscratchpad.com. I have no recollection of the site, probably stumbled onto it following the links in the old Web ring. Doesn't ring any bells though. You are an old bird, Penguinisto; older than Sam or I am, in Rendo years that is.

Time is flying and 2020 is upon us. How did that happen?


SamTherapy posted Fri, 20 December 2019 at 2:09 AM

Rance01 posted at 8:08AM Fri, 20 December 2019 - #4373874

Time is flying and 2020 is upon us. How did that happen?

Something to do with Loop Quantum Gravity, I believe. 😁

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Penguinisto posted Fri, 20 December 2019 at 8:25 AM

The December 8 2004 snapshot on Wayback has the relevant bits listed, but downloading is indeed broke for it all.

...and they say the Internet never forgets... damned thing forgets more than it retains, truth be told. I am amazed at how much one can still scrounge up though. I recently went on an online picking spree for a wildly different reason - I found the old NearMe mesh on an old backup drive, and scrounged around to hoover up as many freebies as still existed for it. I wound up with an amazing amount of stuff...


SamTherapy posted Fri, 20 December 2019 at 12:58 PM

It appears the internet never forgets stuff that various people would rather it left in a dark cupboard somewhere, but forgets the stuff everyone wants.

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Retrowave posted Tue, 24 December 2019 at 12:54 PM

Just wanted to thank Sam very much for bringing this matter to attention. It pretty much explains the weird conversation I had with Roxie a few months back, here's the transcript of it ...

As you can see, her manners have improved zero since she first inhabited my runtime, but I'll teach her some if it's the last thing I do. Anyway, thanks very much for the info, I'll let her know right away what's going on with regards the gens. She's been in a stinking mood about it ever since it happened, she even said something about Rex considering taking-up knitting!

Strange she said they're all effected though, I thought all newer figures had those grafted-on type gens.


Retrowave posted Tue, 24 December 2019 at 1:06 PM

I don't know why, but I could not get the Language Advisory tag to work on the post above, so sorry about that!


SamTherapy posted Tue, 24 December 2019 at 2:19 PM

😂

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