Why ask is. I stopped upgrading studio 4.10. Because the way they did program will put your comp into 100% processor and mem. Causes many problems. I cant even render lot scenes now through updates as only way is to save scene load into vue 7 to render or into poser 11. Studio mow crashes comp out messes up windows can cause major probs. i bought studio from version 2. Iray has caused more probs. Now is studio 11 update same. computer crashes windows crashes ect through new update taking up to much memory. Millions of daz studio and poser users dont have latest super computers. Cant afford million bucks for new comp. Lot of studio users not upgrading and new people not buying program. People asking if they can get hold older program. Do you understand when you upgrade a program so 70% of users cant use they get enraged. Now i have use older laptop to render in poser as cant afford pay for new desktop. I like millions private sector workers have had take wage cut to keep working. REMEMBER AT LEAST KEEP A POSER VERSION THAT MOST PEOPLE CAN USE AND PRODUCTS. IF SOMEONE CAN ONLY USE POSER 2012 AND CANT AFFORD POSER 11 DONT IGNORE THOSE OLDER POSER PEOPLE BY WIPING OUT FIGURES AND STUFF THEY CAN USE.