Snarlygribbly opened this issue on Jun 11, 2020 · 120 posts
Snarlygribbly posted Thu, 11 June 2020 at 6:16 AM
Some of you will have seen the blog post drawing your attention to the changes in Poser Python expected in Poser 12. You may be worried that some of your scripts will stop working.
This is just to let you know that I shall be making sure that all of my scripts will work in Poser 12, and they will remain free (of course).
Additionally, it may be possible for me to update my pre-Poser 11 scripts to work with Superfly too. I can't promise that, but it is an aspiration. Time is the enemy, but it is something I'd like to do.
it may also be possible to update some of Dimension 3D's scripts so that they remain usable in Poser 12. If this happens, it will be with the co-operation of Renderosity and D3D's estate, and D3D's estate will be the financial beneficiary of the exercise.
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SamTherapy posted Thu, 11 June 2020 at 6:37 AM
randym77 posted Thu, 11 June 2020 at 6:47 AM
Very good news indeed. Thanks!
CHK2033 posted Thu, 11 June 2020 at 2:15 PM
Thats new (or just not released) EZScene/EZSkin4 ?
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Miss B posted Thu, 11 June 2020 at 3:53 PM
WOOT!! This is really good news Snarly, so I look forward to the updates when P12 hits the scene. 
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ghostman posted Fri, 12 June 2020 at 3:10 AM
Rosie-D posted Fri, 12 June 2020 at 9:08 AM
Thank you Snarly - I use scene fixer and EZskin all the time plus various other scripts of yours when needed - any possibility of being able to use some of D3D's scripts in Poser 12 would be very welcome. Stretches time extensively to be of help...
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jura11 posted Fri, 12 June 2020 at 12:14 PM
Thank you Snarly for your work and dedication mate, really appreciate it for that
Thanks, Jura
-renapd- posted Fri, 12 June 2020 at 11:59 PM Site Admin
This is fantastic news and you are the best! Your scripts are precious to me! :)
LaurieA posted Sat, 13 June 2020 at 2:32 PM
You're a good man, Snarly ;)
Snarlygribbly posted Sat, 13 June 2020 at 4:17 PM
LaurieA posted at 10:16PM Sat, 13 June 2020 - #4391793
You're a good man, Snarly ;)
Oh, stop it now! I have a reputation to keep up, y'know! Snarlies are ebil. Everyone knows that.
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Snarlygribbly posted Sat, 13 June 2020 at 4:22 PM
CHK2033 posted at 10:18PM Sat, 13 June 2020 - #4391542
Thats new (or just not released) EZScene/EZSkin4 ?
Unreleased. Untested. Undocumented. Sadly, I no longer have enough time or the necessary support network (testers etc.) for major new releases.
It'll be all I can do to update the existing stuff, so that's where I'll concentrate my energies.
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structure posted Sat, 13 June 2020 at 4:41 PM Forum Coordinator
anytime you need a tester snarly - I am willing
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caisson posted Sat, 13 June 2020 at 5:33 PM
Snarly - I can find time to help with testing and documentation should you need it.
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CHK2033 posted Sat, 13 June 2020 at 7:47 PM
Snarlygribbly posted at 7:29PM Sat, 13 June 2020 - #4391807
CHK2033 posted at 10:18PM Sat, 13 June 2020 - #4391542
Thats new (or just not released) EZScene/EZSkin4 ?
Unreleased. Untested. Undocumented. Sadly, I no longer have enough time or the necessary support network (testers etc.) for major new releases.
It'll be all I can do to update the existing stuff, so that's where I'll concentrate my energies.
Understandable, I'm actually kind of bummed out now as I got all excited by that screen shot as EZSkin is the first thing I install on poser always , and most times the only thing. so much so that in my mind, that is a part of the install of Poser, Oh well, hopefully you get the support network for your work you so rightfully deserve.
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samsiahaija posted Sun, 14 June 2020 at 3:21 AM Online Now!
Stupid noob question:
Would it still be possible to prepare a scene in Poser 11, apply the python scripts there, and then export it to Poser 12 for further modifications and rendering?
RedPhantom posted Sun, 14 June 2020 at 6:50 AM Site Admin
While I can't say for sure because I have nothing to do with Poser's development, given its track record for being able to open older files, I'd guess yes, you could. However, that being said, that may not work in practice. If I create a scene mostly in 11 and then load it into 12 to add materials using the cycles that weren't included in 11 but hopefully will be in 12, and then I realize I need to run a script say ezcloth for a dress I decided would work better for the scene, I can't. If ezcloth isn't updated, it likely won't run in 12. But if I reload the scene in 11, I will lose all the updates made in 12 that aren't part of 11, like the new nodes.
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RobZhena posted Sun, 14 June 2020 at 10:20 AM
Thank you, Snarly! If Netherworks does not update his scripts, Poser 12 will be a no-go for me.
Boni posted Tue, 16 June 2020 at 12:19 AM
Snarly, I would be honored to be a tester!!
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EClark1894 posted Tue, 16 June 2020 at 2:34 AM
What about the scripts that come included with Poser? I know some of those are D3D's, but what about the rest of them? Will they continue to work? Will Bondware be responsible for making sure they are updated?
ader posted Tue, 16 June 2020 at 5:47 PM
Fantastic news! If you need anything testing on Mac just let me know.
infinity10 posted Sun, 21 June 2020 at 2:29 AM
Thank you Snarly. Good on you.
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TheAnimaGemini posted Sun, 21 June 2020 at 11:17 AM
Amazing, thank you.
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HartyBart posted Thu, 16 July 2020 at 1:33 PM
I've just stumbled on this news. Let me also add my thanks for your generous offer.
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parkdalegardener posted Thu, 16 July 2020 at 4:39 PM
And me as well. Thank you snarrly.
722 posted Fri, 31 July 2020 at 12:46 AM
that's awesome to here . The Binary Morph Editor isn't working right it's not applying the master dial in the body only in the body part.
movida posted Fri, 31 July 2020 at 7:14 PM
Thank you so much :)
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LostAlien posted Mon, 15 February 2021 at 12:16 PM
Hi Snarlygribbly,
Have been waiting for your fantastic scripts... In fact, I have just upgraded to poser 12 (still have Poser 11 running too).
Do you need any help with them? Perhaps I could help test, or something?
Just wanted to say how much of a fan I am and that your scripts, such as Ezskin, have meant that poser still lives!
Thank you for everything you have done to keep Poser living and breathing, without your scripts it would have died.
Looking forward to getting them, would be great to have an update?
All the best... LA
hborre posted Mon, 15 February 2021 at 8:34 PM
It would be nice to have those scripts available ASAP, however, P12 is still being developed, and many features have either not been corrected yet or may have become broken in the process. It would be foolish to release the new scripts now and then have to update them because of some P12 changes.
Afrodite-Ohki posted Mon, 22 February 2021 at 3:35 PM
Sir, you are a scholar and a gentleman. Thank you!
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Rhia474 posted Mon, 22 February 2021 at 7:13 PM
So...I apologize for the semi-hijack, but I can't see the post you're reacting to. Ohki. I saw this afternoon Digitell posted, but the post is invisible to me and I don't understand why. What is it??
Afrodite-Ohki posted Mon, 22 February 2021 at 7:16 PM
Rhia474 posted at 7:15PM Mon, 22 February 2021 - #4413615
So...I apologize for the semi-hijack, but I can't see the post you're reacting to. Ohki. I saw this afternoon Digitell posted, but the post is invisible to me and I don't understand why. What is it??
Don't mind me, that was me not realizing this thread is old - I was thanking Snarly for the promise of p12 scripts. The posts before mine were just asking about them. I don't see any by Digitell.
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Rhia474 posted Mon, 22 February 2021 at 7:20 PM
Ah, so the 'post' must have been them moving this thread from somewhere then. I'm smart sometimes. Really waiting for this script to be released with bated breath. had a Monday
cymbidium posted Fri, 30 April 2021 at 1:49 PM
Just found this thread. I use your EZSkin all the time, Snarly, and I have to say I'm totally lost without it in Poser 12! I really hope you manage to get it updated soon. Poser 12 is not a good place for SSS skin texture creation without it right now. Thank you so much for all your hard work now and in the past!! :)
Grossmann posted Sun, 02 May 2021 at 12:09 AM
So many empty words.... now is may 2021 and I regret that i bought poser12
Rhia474 posted Sun, 02 May 2021 at 10:38 AM
Goodness. SO much negativity. What happened to understanding limited resources, development cycles and that literally most of these scripts were and will be FREE?
hborre posted Sun, 02 May 2021 at 4:40 PM
Snarly at one time was going to give it all up but he reconsidered and returned. He has volunteered his time and effort towards these projects so a little respect and consideration is the best anyone should give him.
Y-Phil posted Sun, 02 May 2021 at 5:43 PM
I totally agree with Rhia & hborre
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Miss B posted Sun, 02 May 2021 at 5:47 PM
Y-Phil posted at 5:45PM Sun, 02 May 2021 - #4418219
I totally agree with Rhia & hborre
Me too! I was thrilled when I heard Snarly was going to be updating his scripts. Goodness knows I depend on several of them regularly.
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Grossmann posted Mon, 03 May 2021 at 12:51 AM
Oh i see it's hard to understand. So sorry... But
"Snarlygribbly opened this issue on Jun 11, 2020" ...
And ----- still nothing working under poser 12. And really i'm not interested with free scripts. I can to pay for them but i need them working. I don't need promises and beautiful words. I don't need problems every time python change. I need only working scripts........ Sorry
Rhia474 posted Mon, 03 May 2021 at 9:45 AM
But that's just it. Every time Python changes, scripts will NOT work. It happened before, I have several scripts I paid for that stopped working WAYYY before Bondware acquired Poser, in fact. it was under the same owner. A lot less yelling then, I recall.
Python 2 is done, gone, finished. Previous owner did not care even though this was a known issue. When it changed hands all official scripts that came with program were updated. Third party scripts cannot be worked by official owner unless they are allowed to, or owner works it.
As I am not a coder, I can't update scripts myself as some have done. I am willing to be patient, and yes, at this point I would also be glad to pay.
But there is no need to assign blame where there is furious paddling behind the scenes to get things fixed.
One can't please everyone, I guess.
hflam posted Mon, 03 May 2021 at 10:43 AM
If Pose itself has a better material conversion between superfly and firefly, people will not need a 3rd party script for the job. It is the developer fault, not Snarlygribbly.
Y-Phil posted Mon, 03 May 2021 at 11:20 AM
hflam posted at 11:17AM Mon, 03 May 2021 - #4418291
If Pose itself has a better material conversion between superfly and firefly, people will not need a 3rd party script for the job. It is the developer fault, not Snarlygribbly.
Oh? Can you quote the name of a program that can "automatically" convert material settings designed for an interpretation of the reality of the lighting (which de facto includes math shortcuts) towards an almost true PBR? and vice-versa? for absolutely all possible cases?
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Grossmann posted Tue, 04 May 2021 at 9:15 AM
Rhia474 posted at 9:11AM Tue, 04 May 2021 - #4418282
But that's just it. Every time Python changes, scripts will NOT work. It happened before, I have several scripts I paid for that stopped working WAYYY before Bondware acquired Poser, in fact. it was under the same owner. A lot less yelling then, I recall.
Python 2 is done, gone, finished. Previous owner did not care even though this was a known issue. When it changed hands all official scripts that came with program were updated. Third party scripts cannot be worked by official owner unless they are allowed to, or owner works it.
As I am not a coder, I can't update scripts myself as some have done. I am willing to be patient, and yes, at this point I would also be glad to pay.
But there is no need to assign blame where there is furious paddling behind the scenes to get things fixed.
One can't please everyone, I guess.
so... everyone quits with each other and it will still be as it is... Waste money and time becouse software (Poser) developer have paying him users deep i his ass....Why we haven't any chance to chose which python version we want to have ?
Y-Phil posted Tue, 04 May 2021 at 9:30 AM
Grossmann posted at 9:21AM Tue, 04 May 2021 - #4418379
Rhia474 posted at 9:11AM Tue, 04 May 2021 - #4418282
But that's just it. Every time Python changes, scripts will NOT work. It happened before, I have several scripts I paid for that stopped working WAYYY before Bondware acquired Poser, in fact. it was under the same owner. A lot less yelling then, I recall.
Python 2 is done, gone, finished. Previous owner did not care even though this was a known issue. When it changed hands all official scripts that came with program were updated. Third party scripts cannot be worked by official owner unless they are allowed to, or owner works it.
As I am not a coder, I can't update scripts myself as some have done. I am willing to be patient, and yes, at this point I would also be glad to pay.
But there is no need to assign blame where there is furious paddling behind the scenes to get things fixed.
One can't please everyone, I guess.
so... everyone quits with each other and it will still be as it is... Waste money and time becouse software (Poser) developer have paying him users deep i his ass....Why we haven't any chance to chose which python version we want to have ?
Why not allow us to choose which Python version? because it would imply a huge increase in the management of the software itsel, the APIs, etc. No company does this, no company can.
All languages and frameworks evolve. Better computers, larger diffusion, the reasons aren'nt missing. And each software company, one day or the other, must either face it or give up. Not only Bondware, SmithMicro, every company with a software that is using "shared" code is concerned. Daz is concerned too, as the framework that are (or were?) using had come to an end-od-life, with no more support.
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Rhia474 posted Tue, 04 May 2021 at 10:44 AM
Let's try this again. No reputable software company uses deprecated programming language for products they sell. If something is no longer supported by the actual company who released it, the chance of malicious code creep increases exponentially, for one. Python 2 is no longer supported by the owner. You can write in it, sure, for your own use. But no new software will accept your scripts. I am done trying to explain this. Not sure how we could do it better.
LostAlien posted Thu, 20 May 2021 at 3:42 AM
I think Snarly is great - His scripts are simply awesome...
All this stuff about Python versions is a distraction from the thread - Truth is that if a software provider changes something and "deprecates" components, then they should really provide a path to migrate existing scripts - It is part of their accountability - We are using their product to make things - If they want to future-proof their product and therefore keep their customer base, then that is the obvious thing to do.
They used to do it - Even Microsoft (to a degree)...
Greed is the issue - It costs more so they cannot be bothered and push all the fixing out to the community...
That includes Bondware/Poser - They have a beautiful product and should really have produced the equivalent of Ezskin so that both render engines can be used.
And any future render engines...
Snarly does his work out of the kindness of his heart and we are all using it free - He has to put up with what the corporates do but is not responsible for their behaviour.
Perhaps we should support Snarly and find out what we can do to help him convert the scripts that we know and love so much.
Or ask Bondware to help him convert it, pay him for the product and include it as part of Poser... win, win, win
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hborre posted Thu, 20 May 2021 at 8:38 AM
One of the issues that have arisen with the release of P12 is the correction of many nodes that were not working properly from the beginning from P11. Without addressing those needs first, any Python Scripts created for P12 would need to be updated as well, especially those involving specialty nodes. Imagine the outrage of users relying on those Scripts having to update them on a regular basis just to keep up with the builds. Many of us Early Adopters have reported countless support tickets on problems that transcended from P11 and those unintentionally broken by tech support. It has taken time, maybe a little too long, but in the long run, we may have a better product to work with. Many have managed to find work arounds and at the same time have learned Poser a little bit better.
LostAlien posted Thu, 20 May 2021 at 9:16 AM
hborre posted at 9:13AM Thu, 20 May 2021 - #4419568
One of the issues that have arisen with the release of P12 is the correction of many nodes that were not working properly from the beginning from P11. Without addressing those needs first, any Python Scripts created for P12 would need to be updated as well, especially those involving specialty nodes. Imagine the outrage of users relying on those Scripts having to update them on a regular basis just to keep up with the builds. Many of us Early Adopters have reported countless support tickets on problems that transcended from P11 and those unintentionally broken by tech support. It has taken time, maybe a little too long, but in the long run, we may have a better product to work with. Many have managed to find work arounds and at the same time have learned Poser a little bit better.
What do you mean by "Correction of many nodes"? I have been using Poser forever, but please forgive me, I just not sure what his means.
Might be the Covid jab I had last night... (Feeling a bit scattered today and my arm hurts, but glad I had it)
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hborre posted Thu, 20 May 2021 at 10:31 AM
For example, it has been found that the anisotropic setting was not working correctly in P12 Superfly, something that was corrected in the latest builds. I also believe that the specular node was not working as it should since P11 for Superfly, another feature that was actually broken for a long time and recently corrected. HDR background projection was broken in one of the builds, I was one of the first to report the problem. A good number of these problems have been posted in the forum and subsequently reported to the techs.
CobraBlade posted Tue, 01 June 2021 at 5:06 AM
The good news is that Snarly is still as kind as ever and still working on updating his scripts for Poser 12.
Snarlygribbly posted Tue, 01 June 2021 at 2:40 PM
CobraBlade posted at 2:40PM Tue, 01 June 2021 - #4420253
The good news is that Snarly is still as kind as ever and still working on updating his scripts for Poser 12.
And thank you for your help, sir :)
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Rhia474 posted Tue, 01 June 2021 at 3:51 PM
Woot! Great news and thank you, kind sirs.
Y-Phil posted Tue, 01 June 2021 at 4:07 PM
Woohoo ??
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Afrodite-Ohki posted Wed, 02 June 2021 at 7:24 AM
hborre posted at 7:21AM Wed, 02 June 2021 - #4419572
For example, it has been found that the anisotropic setting was not working correctly in P12 Superfly, something that was corrected in the latest builds. I also believe that the specular node was not working as it should since P11 for Superfly, another feature that was actually broken for a long time and recently corrected. HDR background projection was broken in one of the builds, I was one of the first to report the problem. A good number of these problems have been posted in the forum and subsequently reported to the techs.
There was also an issue reported by me where, in early Poser 12, any Subsurface Scattering connected to an image was rendering green. Corrected.
Also a bug that Bagginsbill found by accident when trying to help me some time ago, in P11, that when you have the exact same value for two of the RGB channels in PhysicalSurface root's subsurface scattering values, it renders as if it were black. I don't think that one was ever addressed, but haven't tested it - a lot of Superfly issues have been corrected in the newest versions of P12.
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Afrodite-Ohki posted Wed, 02 June 2021 at 7:24 AM
Also YAY SNARLY! Thank you, I will be here waiting patiently but excitedly for those updates :)
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CobraBlade posted Thu, 17 June 2021 at 3:16 AM
I've got some great news to share, Snarly's scripts are ready to be shared! You'll find them all here at poser.cobrablade.net, the new Poser 12 ones as well as his classic scripts for anyone still using earlier versions of Poser!
EZSkin for Poser 12 is still being worked on by Snarly, but even now will save anyone having to set up their scene in Poser 11 then re-opening it up in 12 just to still have access to the wonder script.
Y-Phil posted Thu, 17 June 2021 at 3:53 AM
CobraBlade posted at 3:53AM Thu, 17 June 2021 - #4421474
I've got some great news to share, Snarly's scripts are ready to be shared! You'll find them all here at poser.cobrablade.net, the new Poser 12 ones as well as his classic scripts for anyone still using earlier versions of Poser!
EZSkin for Poser 12 is still being worked on by Snarly, but even now will save anyone having to set up their scene in Poser 11 then re-opening it up in 12 just to still have access to the wonder script.
Woohoo ?
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parkdalegardener posted Thu, 17 June 2021 at 5:22 AM
Thank You!!!
randym77 posted Thu, 17 June 2021 at 6:29 AM
Awesome! That's fantastic news! Thank you!
RedPhantom posted Thu, 17 June 2021 at 6:41 AM Site Admin
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Rhia474 posted Thu, 17 June 2021 at 7:26 AM
Thank you very much; amazing news and generosity.
Miss B posted Thu, 17 June 2021 at 9:01 AM
CobraBlade posted at 9:00AM Thu, 17 June 2021 - #4421474
I've got some great news to share, Snarly's scripts are ready to be shared! You'll find them all here at poser.cobrablade.net, the new Poser 12 ones as well as his classic scripts for anyone still using earlier versions of Poser!
EZSkin for Poser 12 is still being worked on by Snarly, but even now will save anyone having to set up their scene in Poser 11 then re-opening it up in 12 just to still have access to the wonder script.
Thank you! Thank you!! Thank you!!! You just made my day!!!!
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jarek2001 posted Thu, 17 June 2021 at 10:32 AM
Great news! Thank you!
Afrodite-Ohki posted Thu, 17 June 2021 at 11:49 AM
OOooh happy day! Thank you!
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Y-Phil posted Thu, 17 June 2021 at 3:45 PM
The return of the EZDome, with its shadow catcher: wooooow.... Thank you so much @Snarlygribbly ❤❤❤
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Snarlygribbly posted Fri, 18 June 2021 at 4:05 AM
Y-Phil posted at 4:04AM Fri, 18 June 2021 - #4421512
The return of the EZDome, with its shadow catcher: wooooow.... Thank you so much @Snarlygribbly ❤❤❤
Huzzah!
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anyway, thank you for all the hard work you been doing, I sometimes use your older scripts. Skipping the new ones not a P12 owner, would be already a nightmare to convert the syltermermaid 900 ++ oops mean 800++ doll packs for poser 12 and this is just one collection of many. so sticking to your previous great Pythons.
thank you
Y-Phil posted Fri, 18 June 2021 at 1:12 PM
!Firefly! posted at 1:12PM Fri, 18 June 2021 - #4421552
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snarlygribbly.org/poser
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redirected to suspended ?!
anyway, thank you for all the hard work you been doing, I sometimes use your older scripts. Skipping the new ones not a P12 owner, would be already a nightmare to convert the syltermermaid 900 ++ oops mean 800++ doll packs for poser 12 and this is just one collection of many. so sticking to your previous great Pythons.
thank you
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Rhia474 posted Fri, 18 June 2021 at 1:26 PM
The actual link is in Cobrablade's post to the script.
Miss B posted Fri, 18 June 2021 at 1:49 PM
Rhia474 posted at 1:48PM Fri, 18 June 2021 - #4421554
The actual link is in Cobrablade's post to the script.
Yes ma'am, and I've already changed my bookmark for Snarly's Scripts.
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Rhia474 posted Fri, 18 June 2021 at 1:55 PM
It's a beautiful thing, innit? Had a crazy week, but the weekend should allow for installing and trying.
Y-Phil posted Fri, 18 June 2021 at 2:03 PM
Rhia474 posted at 2:02PM Fri, 18 June 2021 - #4421557
It's a beautiful thing, innit? Had a crazy week, but the weekend should allow for installing and trying.
"Should allow"? let me think... nah... It's mandatory! ???
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Snarlygribbly posted Fri, 18 June 2021 at 3:11 PM
Ha ha! Sorry about that outdated link. I've changed it now to point to the link given by CobraBlade, to whom I am most grateful for hosting my free stuff.
Free stuff @ https://poser.cobrablade.net/
ChromeStar posted Fri, 18 June 2021 at 4:08 PM
Is there a description somewhere of what the scripts do? I'm familiar with EZSkin but not with the others.
CobraBlade posted Sat, 19 June 2021 at 1:04 AM
It's an honour to host them Snarly :) Hey ChromeStar, when I get a chance I'll look into adding some descriptions for each of the scripts.
EClark1894 posted Sat, 19 June 2021 at 9:42 AM
CobraBlade posted at 9:41AM Sat, 19 June 2021 - #4421603
It's an honour to host them Snarly :) Hey ChromeStar, when I get a chance I'll look into adding some descriptions for each of the scripts.
I updated the links in the directory. Thanks for the heads up, CobraBlade.
Rhia474 posted Sat, 19 June 2021 at 9:50 AM
So, am futzing with EZSkin. It seems that at least with the skins of V4 and M4 that I tired so far, the lip definitions need to be manually changed to match the skin; otherwise there is a rather noticeable sharp delineation around and the colors, especially with M4, are just...not right.. Once that is updated, they look great; but so far I couldn't use the out of the box option alone (much like with the other skin script I tried, some values MUST be played with).
Example of V4 (with EZ Dome, one background drop and one light):
Rhia474 posted Sat, 19 June 2021 at 10:20 AM
M4 (after changing the lip to use skin and some of the eye textures manually). One light, EZ Dome. Armor metallic stll needs to be adjusted to Superfly, but wanted the skin to be shown after EZSkin.
Miss B posted Sat, 19 June 2021 at 12:41 PM
CobraBlade posted Mon, 21 June 2021 at 6:29 AM
I've added pop-up descriptions over on poser.cobrablade.net for anyone that needed them.
While the Poser 12 version of EZSkin's script is up and running great, the shaders are the part still under development, so be sure to keep an eye on this space :)
EClark1894 posted Mon, 21 June 2021 at 10:13 AM
CobraBlade posted at 10:11AM Mon, 21 June 2021 - #4421739
I've added pop-up descriptions over on poser.cobrablade.net for anyone that needed them.
While the Poser 12 version of EZSkin's script is up and running great, the shaders are the part still under development, so be sure to keep an eye on this space :)
I suppose I should ask. Recently, I've undertaken adding more DS links to the Directory. So I'm curious to know, which scripts will or won't work in DS and preferably which version?
Miss B posted Mon, 21 June 2021 at 11:10 AM
EClark1894 posted at 11:09AM Mon, 21 June 2021 - #4421761
CobraBlade posted at 10:11AM Mon, 21 June 2021 - #4421739
I've added pop-up descriptions over on poser.cobrablade.net for anyone that needed them.
While the Poser 12 version of EZSkin's script is up and running great, the shaders are the part still under development, so be sure to keep an eye on this space :)
I suppose I should ask. Recently, I've undertaken adding more DS links to the Directory. So I'm curious to know, which scripts will or won't work in DS and preferably which version?
These are Poser scripts Earl, so won't work in DS. Poser uses Python for it's scripting, and I'm pretty sure DS does not.
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Rhia474 posted Mon, 21 June 2021 at 11:40 AM
Plus which, Poser specific shaders are most likely meaningless in DS as well.
Miss B posted Mon, 21 June 2021 at 1:57 PM
EClark1894 posted Mon, 21 June 2021 at 4:08 PM
Rhia474 posted Mon, 21 June 2021 at 4:48 PM
Google says this:
ECMAScript Language Daz Script 2 is a dynamically-typed, interpreted, object-oriented scripting language that is tightly integrated with the Daz Studio API . It is an extension of QtScript, which is an extension of ECMAScript as defined in the ECMAScript Language Specification (ECMA-262).
So, def not Python.
Miss B posted Mon, 21 June 2021 at 6:21 PM
Rhia474 posted at 6:20PM Mon, 21 June 2021 - #4421782
Google says this:
ECMAScript Language Daz Script 2 is a dynamically-typed, interpreted, object-oriented scripting language that is tightly integrated with the Daz Studio API . It is an extension of QtScript, which is an extension of ECMAScript as defined in the ECMAScript Language Specification (ECMA-262).
So, def not Python.
I was going to say QtScript, as that's what I remember from when I was using DS, back in the day. I just wasn't sure if they had updated to something else since then.
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Y-Phil posted Tue, 22 June 2021 at 7:06 AM
From the official doc page:
V4.8.7: End-of-Life (as of December 2015). And the V6.2 is soon to be released. Looks pretty much like Poser's Python 2/3 problems. Reference: here.
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Rhia474 posted Tue, 22 June 2021 at 7:46 AM
Yep, thank you for digging that up. Scripting language deprecation IS an issue with any software, methinks. It'll be interesting to see how the other side deals with it.
CobraBlade posted Wed, 14 July 2021 at 6:55 PM
I'm just wondering, is there anyone else using EZDome on macOS?
adp001 posted Thu, 15 July 2021 at 7:06 AM
"ECMAScript" is also known as "JavaScript".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECMAScript
LostAlien posted Mon, 19 July 2021 at 8:39 AM
CobraBlade posted at 8:38AM Mon, 19 July 2021 - #4423227
I'm just wondering, is there anyone else using EZDome on macOS?
I will be using it as soon as I have it installed...
LA
JimTS posted Wed, 21 July 2021 at 5:28 PM
This thread circled me back to D3D's script list
A word is not the same with one writer as with another. One tears it from his guts. The other pulls it out of his overcoat pocket
Charles Péguy
Heat and animosity, contest and conflict, may sharpen the wits, although they rarely do;they never strengthen the understanding, clear the perspicacity, guide the judgment, or improve the heart
Walter Savage Landor
So is that TTFN or TANSTAAFL?
CobraBlade posted Fri, 23 July 2021 at 5:56 AM
Let me know if the shadow catcher renders as a misty field by default LostAlien. That's what I had with my testing, but it would be interesting to know if the same was for anyone using a Mac.
Hey JimTS, if you were looking for Snarly's scripts you can use this link poser.cobrablade.net
JimTS posted Sat, 24 July 2021 at 1:16 PM
Thanks sorting thru which script to use between versions is causing a lot of dysfunction sorting error stalls in non flowing work blockage log jam of idea/images
A word is not the same with one writer as with another. One tears it from his guts. The other pulls it out of his overcoat pocket
Charles Péguy
Heat and animosity, contest and conflict, may sharpen the wits, although they rarely do;they never strengthen the understanding, clear the perspicacity, guide the judgment, or improve the heart
Walter Savage Landor
So is that TTFN or TANSTAAFL?
CobraBlade posted Sat, 24 July 2021 at 7:31 PM
Only the Poser 12 scripts at the top will run in Poser 12. With the legacy scripts, unfortunately, I never backed up older version of Poser so with Smith Micro out of the picture I only have access to Poser 12&11 so wouldn't be able to test if any of them stopped working after a specific version prior to 11.
JimTS posted Wed, 28 July 2021 at 11:51 PM
don't most contemporary scripts still run in 11? Okay more than one native runtime/python directory at a time
A word is not the same with one writer as with another. One tears it from his guts. The other pulls it out of his overcoat pocket
Charles Péguy
Heat and animosity, contest and conflict, may sharpen the wits, although they rarely do;they never strengthen the understanding, clear the perspicacity, guide the judgment, or improve the heart
Walter Savage Landor
So is that TTFN or TANSTAAFL?
Y-Phil posted Thu, 29 July 2021 at 2:05 AM
You may even have a unique collection of scripts that works either with Poser 11 or Poser 12, and have at the same tîme the collection that adapts itself, using Poser's Python menu.
Example:
import poser
version = poser.AppVersion()
if version[0:2] < '12':
poser.DefineScriptButton(1, ":Runtime:Python:PoserScripts:ScriptsMenu:EZSkin3.pyc", "EZSkin3")
poser.DefineScriptButton(2, ":Runtime:Python:PoserScripts:ScriptsMenu:ezdome.pyc", "EZDome")
poser.DefineScriptButton(3, ":Runtime:Python:PoserScripts:Cyp:V11:Launch_Object_manager_P9.pyc", "Object Manager")
poser.DefineScriptButton(4, ":Runtime:Python:PoserScripts:ScriptsMenu:Utility:deleteLights.py", "Delete all lights")
poser.DefineScriptButton(5, ":Runtime:Python:PoserScripts:Cyp:XLC_V11:XLC.py", "Extended light control")
poser.DefineScriptButton(6, ":Runtime:Python:PoserScripts:ScriptsMenu:Netherworks:Material Tools:Transfer Material.py", "Transfer Material")
poser.DefineScriptButton(7, ":Runtime:Python:PoserScripts:Cyp:tools-v11:tools.py", "Tools...")
else:
poser.DefineScriptButton(1, ":Runtime:Python:PoserScripts:Cyp:tools-v12:layers-nodes:tools.py", "Mats/Nodes...")
poser.DefineScriptButton(2, ":Runtime:Python:PoserScripts:Cyp:tools-v12:lights:tools.py", "Lights...")
poser.DefineScriptButton(3, ":Runtime:Python:PoserScripts:Cyp:tools-v12:tools.py", "Tools...")
poser.DefineScriptButton(4, ":Runtime:Python:PoserScripts:Cyp:tools-v12:set_background_angle.py", "Background Angle")
poser.DefineScriptButton(5, ":Runtime:Python:PoserScripts:Cyp:snarly:tools.py", "Snarly's...")
poser.DefineScriptButton(6, ":Runtime:Python:PoserScripts:Cyp:tools-v12:WN_Cloth_Presets.pyc", "Cloth Presets")
poser.DefineScriptButton(7, "", "...")
poser.DefineScriptButton(8, ":Runtime:Python:PoserScripts:Cyp:Sasha-16:tools.py", "Sasha-16")
poser.DefineScriptButton(9, ":Runtime:Python:poserScripts:Cyp:ik:IK_mgt.py", "IK management")
poser.DefineScriptButton(10, ":Runtime:Python:PoserScripts:mainButtons.py", "Main...")
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CobraBlade posted Thu, 29 July 2021 at 6:19 PM
Also depends on what version of Poser a script was originally made for as Poser 12 isn't the 1st version of Poser to receive an updated Python engine.
AcePyx posted Fri, 06 August 2021 at 8:26 PM
Fantastic news Snarly! Thank you. Given Bondware's infuriating habit of forcing a full reinstall each time they patch the program, how will that affect my installed library on EZ Dome?
Also, there's a small bug on EZ Skin. If you load the script BEFORE loading a figure, the interface disappears and cannot be reloaded. When you try, it reports that it is already active.
Y-Phil posted Sat, 07 August 2021 at 7:33 AM
AcePyx posted at 7:23AM Sat, 07 August 2021 - #4424742
Fantastic news Snarly! Thank you. Given Bondware's infuriating habit of forcing a full reinstall each time they patch the program, how will that affect my installed library on EZ Dome?
Also, there's a small bug on EZ Skin. If you load the script BEFORE loading a figure, the interface disappears and cannot be reloaded. When you try, it reports that it is already active.
In %appdata%\poser\12 you will find a folder: ezdome, which contains in fact 2 text files, the ones ezdome uses for its parameters.
You may save them, if you want. But I have never any of those files being overwritten by a new Poser install.
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AcePyx posted Sat, 07 August 2021 at 7:56 AM
Fantastic - thanks Y-Phil!
Y-Phil posted at 7:56AM Sat, 07 August 2021 - #4424758
AcePyx posted at 7:23AM Sat, 07 August 2021 - #4424742
Fantastic news Snarly! Thank you. Given Bondware's infuriating habit of forcing a full reinstall each time they patch the program, how will that affect my installed library on EZ Dome?
Also, there's a small bug on EZ Skin. If you load the script BEFORE loading a figure, the interface disappears and cannot be reloaded. When you try, it reports that it is already active.
In %appdata%poser12 you will find a folder: ezdome, which contains in fact 2 text files, the ones ezdome uses for its parameters.
You may save them, if you want. But I have never any of those files being overwritten by a new Poser install.
Y-Phil posted Sat, 07 August 2021 at 12:00 PM
AcePyx posted at 12:00PM Sat, 07 August 2021 - #4424759
Fantastic - thanks Y-Phil!
You're welcome ?
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CobraBlade posted Wed, 11 August 2021 at 8:52 PM
AcePyx posted at 8:50PM Wed, 11 August 2021 - #4424742
Also, there's a small bug on EZ Skin. If you load the script BEFORE loading a figure, the interface disappears and cannot be reloaded. When you try, it reports that it is already active.
Hmm, wasn't able to replicate this, it still opened for me. Is anyone else able to test this out? I'm using a macOS 11.5 and Poser 12 on this end.
hborre posted Wed, 11 August 2021 at 9:26 PM
I'm not getting that. A hiccup I'm getting is a warning box when exiting the material setup for figures. Works fine after that. When I get the time, I will post a screencap.
GRENDEL1 posted Sat, 21 August 2021 at 7:36 PM
Does anyone know if there's a way to get Snarlygribbly's Snow Machine working in Poser 12? Or is there an alternative that I can use to mimic its functions?
hborre posted Sat, 21 August 2021 at 8:12 PM
You'll get the same answer here as you did at the other thread. ATM, there haven't been any other converted releases of other scripts.
Y-Phil posted Sun, 22 August 2021 at 4:22 AM
GRENDEL1 posted at 4:21AM Sun, 22 August 2021 - #4425820
Does anyone know if there's a way to get Snarlygribbly's Snow Machine working in Poser 12? Or is there an alternative that I can use to mimic its functions?
The explanations I remember of was that it was based on microfacets, something that isn't implemented with Superfly, but I may be wrong...
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starlight64 posted Sat, 04 September 2021 at 9:15 PM
Just doing poser trial. I am a poser returnee from 15 yrs ago. I have been trying Daz Studio. OMG! I f***#×# hate it !!! Everything is more complicated. And it lags, is choppy and has locked up my pc more than once.. Poser is so much easier. And it doesn't take that long to render. I wound up here because I have purchased some big morph packs, hair, and some. Clothes. I want to keep up with the script to take genesis figures into poser. I read 2 pages of this thread and wanted to keep this marked.
McGrandpa posted Thu, 23 September 2021 at 1:44 PM
Afrodite-Ohki posted at 3:35 PM Mon, 22 February 2021 - #4413588
And YOU, Ohki, are totally BRILLIANT! I love using your La Femme characters, hair and clothing! Your ladies are wonderful!Sir, you are a scholar and a gentleman. Thank you!
My 66th Birthday PC Build (July 1, 2020) : named BadMoonRYZEN!, W10Pro x64, Octal Core RYZEN7 X3700 4.05 GHz, 64GB DDR4 RAM, GeForce RTX 3060 - 12GB GDDR6, PP2014, PP 11, P12, PS-CS4 Extended & Vue 2024.
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McGrandpa posted Thu, 23 September 2021 at 1:46 PM
Hiya SnarlyGribbly! Great to find this thread man. Got it bookmarked!
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hborre posted Thu, 23 September 2021 at 2:10 PM
Don't get too excited yet. So far, EZSkin 3 and EZDome have been updated to work in P12. But not all the addons for EZSkin3 work.
Afrodite-Ohki posted Thu, 23 September 2021 at 2:23 PM
And YOU, Ohki, are totally BRILLIANT! I love using your La Femme characters, hair and clothing! Your ladies are wonderful!Oh oy, stop it, you! :3
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GRENDEL1 posted Thu, 23 September 2021 at 6:55 PM
What about FireFly? I'm not using the Superfly renderer as I find it fairly flat and grainy............GRENDEL1 posted at 4:21AM Sun, 22 August 2021 - #4425820
Does anyone know if there's a way to get Snarlygribbly's Snow Machine working in Poser 12? Or is there an alternative that I can use to mimic its functions?
The explanations I remember of was that it was based on microfacets, something that isn't implemented with Superfly, but I may be wrong...
Rhia474 posted Thu, 23 September 2021 at 7:59 PM
Do you have Poser 11? Use Snowmachine there, then just render in Firefly.
Snarlygribbly posted Fri, 24 September 2021 at 3:51 AM
Hi folks,
I've just caught up with this thread, and would like to clarify one or two things.
First, I am very grateful for all the kind things that have been said :)
Secondly, I personally welcome the introduction of Python 3. While it has inevitably caused some problems, it also means that Poser is now set up properly for future developments. There wasn't really much choice in the matter anyway, and all our efforts would be best targeted at making the most of the new opportunities, rather than agonizing over the issues that it has caused.
Thirdly, while I can no longer spare very much time for Poser, it remains very special to me and i shall continue to support it as much as I can. Right now, that won't be very much, but I'll do what I can :)
Fourthly, Bondware did enter into discussions with me about how to ensure the ongoing availability of my scripts, and made a kind offer. It wouldn't be right to go into the details, but things didn't work out, and that was partly due to my decision not to accept any financial offers (this is a hobby for me, and money changes that in a way I don't want). Please just trust that Bondware are doing what they can :)
Finally, The Snow Machine can only work properly in Firefly at the moment due to the lack of micropoly displacement in Superfly. I have promised a couple of people that the Snow Machine will be the next thing I convert to Poser 12 though, and I'll do it as soon as I get a bit of free time. I'll see if I can do it this weekend (but no promises).
Love from Snarly :)
Free stuff @ https://poser.cobrablade.net/
Snarlygribbly posted Fri, 24 September 2021 at 3:56 AM
EZDOME
I'm hosting a Zoom meeting on Saturday, 2nd October @ 10pm UTC+1 (5pm New York time) for a few EZDome users.
It's mostly going to be an informal chat about how to get the most of the script, but it'll also be a fun chance to meet some of you.
If you want to join in, just send me a sitemail and if there's still enough room I'll send you an invite :)
I want to keep the meeting small and friendly, so there's only a few places available…
Free stuff @ https://poser.cobrablade.net/
naduron posted Mon, 19 September 2022 at 6:11 PM
you can use Poser 11 and save the scene to Poser 12 and render it, snow machine only add extra layers to the scenes, that you can easily save to Poser 12. that is why i always have both Posers 11 and Poser Pro 12 on the same time to save me even more time xD
yeah, you can have both Posers softwares on the same time it believe it is completely different softwares , you move around on both , but can't render on both at same time , they will bug out with black screen