Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Poser 9 Keeps Crashing...Can't Find Bondare Updates

romangirl opened this issue on Jul 25, 2020 · 71 posts


romangirl posted Sat, 25 July 2020 at 10:44 AM

First, my library/search window disappeared from my pose room and is in the materials room, making it very hard to search for characters, props, scenes, change colors, etc. I keep having to switch back and forth from the pose room to materials room. Now Poser 9 is constantly crashing. It will go down after a few seconds. I keep trying to restart the computer. but then Poser 9 crashes. I want to reinstall Poser 9, but can't find its updates in Bondware. Help! Poser 9 is dead in the water!


randym77 posted Sat, 25 July 2020 at 6:20 PM

I'm not sure Bondware even has the updates for the earlier versions of Poser. You could try putting in a support ticket.

Someone here might have copies of the Poser 9 SRs. Alternately, updating Windows might fix it (if you're using Windows).


hborre posted Sat, 25 July 2020 at 7:36 PM

None of the older SR's were made available to Bondware. I am aware of someone else needing service releases for P10; they were gifted with an upload.


Richard60 posted Sat, 25 July 2020 at 8:38 PM

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2949609

Look at this thread and they seem to list all the older Poser updates. You want the one for Poser Pro 2012.

Poser 5, 6, 7, 8, Poser Pro 9 (2012), 10 (2014), 11, 12, 13


RedPhantom posted Sat, 25 July 2020 at 8:46 PM Site Admin

Structure posted links to service updates here https://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2949609#msg4394414 You can look and see if it has what you need.


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randym77 posted Sun, 26 July 2020 at 9:35 AM

The service releases aren't listed in those posts for Poser 9. The content updater is, but not the service releases.

I looked at my hard drive, and I have service releases for PP through Poser 8, but not Poser 9. I wonder if it's because that's when they started using that download manager. Either it used files that aren't readily recognizable, or it put them somewhere I can't find.


romangirl posted Sun, 26 July 2020 at 10:14 AM

Thank you all!


TwiztidKidd posted Sun, 26 July 2020 at 12:22 PM Online Now!

Hi Sue, if you're in Windows you can try to restore to a previous version of your Poser folder. Right-click on the folder and select Previous Versions from the context menu. Don't restore to yesterday but don't go too far back either.

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Richard60 posted Sun, 26 July 2020 at 1:26 PM

As far as I can remember Poser 9/Pro2012 were the first to use the one download and your serial number determined if it was Pro or Standard. Prior to 9/2012 Poser Standard came out first followed by the Pro Version. So you had Poser 8 followed by Poser Pro 2010 which was an extended version of 8.

So if you use Poser Pro 2012 SR3.1 that should get your Poser 9 updated.

Poser 5, 6, 7, 8, Poser Pro 9 (2012), 10 (2014), 11, 12, 13


DCArt posted Sun, 26 July 2020 at 2:53 PM

Keep in mind that Adobe announced in 2017 that they are ending support for Flash at the end of this year:

Adobe Flash end of support on December 31, 2020

Adobe Flash Player EOL General Information Page



TwiztidKidd posted Sun, 26 July 2020 at 3:11 PM Online Now!

Poser only needs Adobe AIR to display the library content



DCArt posted Sun, 26 July 2020 at 4:30 PM

It looks like Air is undergoing changes as well:

https://theblog.adobe.com/the-future-of-adobe-air/



romangirl posted Sun, 26 July 2020 at 4:42 PM

TwiztidKidd posted at 5:42PM Sun, 26 July 2020 - #4395303

Hi Sue, if you're in Windows you can try to restore to a previous version of your Poser folder. Right-click on the folder and select Previous Versions from the context menu. Don't restore to yesterday but don't go too far back either.

But no previous versions in my Poser 9 folder.

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TwiztidKidd posted Sun, 26 July 2020 at 6:09 PM Online Now!

romangirl posted at 5:54PM Sun, 26 July 2020 - #4395315

But no previous versions in my Poser 9 folder.

Ouch... Is System Restore or File Protection turned off for your drive... the one that has Poser on it?

If you recently moved or renamed your Poser 9 folder it's not going to work.

Reinstall Adobe AIR & Flash (the IE version... Not Chrome/FF) and make sure Internet Explorer starts if you try it, apparently it needs that too.



DCArt posted Sun, 26 July 2020 at 6:19 PM

Richard60 posted at 7:18PM Sun, 26 July 2020 - #4395307

As far as I can remember Poser 9/Pro2012 were the first to use the one download and your serial number determined if it was Pro or Standard. Prior to 9/2012 Poser Standard came out first followed by the Pro Version. So you had Poser 8 followed by Poser Pro 2010 which was an extended version of 8.

So if you use Poser Pro 2012 SR3.1 that should get your Poser 9 updated.

I just checked the Poser 9 user manual and I think the unified installer came after that. I think back in that era, Poser 9 and Poser Pro 2012 each had their own installers, but I might be wrong.



romangirl posted Mon, 27 July 2020 at 3:53 PM

Thank you!


romangirl posted Tue, 28 July 2020 at 11:40 AM

The Library tab came back to the Pose Room, but I can't stabilize the different palettes (windows ?). If I try to move the Pose Room window, the scene gets huge and I have to go to Windows, click on Float palette, and reset the window size. One palette blocks another, and when I try to move a palette, everything goes haywire. the Pose Room Goes Crazy. Here it is right now!

jpg](https://live.cdn.renderosity.com/forum/comments/4395427/file_0f28b5d49b3020afeecd95b4009adf4c.jpg)


romangirl posted Tue, 28 July 2020 at 11:48 AM

Pose Room Goes Crazy.jpg


hborre posted Tue, 28 July 2020 at 11:57 AM

Floating panels work best if you 2 monitors to move them between.


romangirl posted Tue, 28 July 2020 at 12:07 PM

Don't know what you mean, but I can't move my Pose Room without everything floating.

Pose Room Goes Crazy.jpg


hborre posted Tue, 28 July 2020 at 12:53 PM

Go to the contextual menu for each panel and click off drag-docking enable. This will anchor each panel in place. Then if you want just the preview panel to be moveable, set it to float. Now you'll be able to move that panel without everything else floating around.


hborre posted Tue, 28 July 2020 at 12:57 PM

You can collapse and restore your Library by clicking on the Poser icon at the upper-right side of the app. That way it will be safely minimized to your taskbar until needed again. You can design each room to display or hide the Library independently.


romangirl posted Thu, 30 July 2020 at 10:19 AM

hborre posted at 11:19AM Thu, 30 July 2020 - #4395431

Floating panels work best if you 2 monitors to move them between. Thanks!


romangirl posted Thu, 30 July 2020 at 10:21 AM

hborre posted at 11:20AM Thu, 30 July 2020 - #4395433

Go to the contextual menu for each panel and click off drag-docking enable. This will anchor each panel in place. Then if you want just the preview panel to be moveable, set it to float. Now you'll be able to move that panel without everything else floating around.

Yes! That worked! Thanks so much!


romangirl posted Mon, 22 February 2021 at 1:50 PM

romangirl posted at 1:50PM Mon, 22 February 2021 - #4395554

hborre posted at 11:20AM Thu, 30 July 2020 - #4395433

Go to the contextual menu for each panel and click off drag-docking enable. This will anchor each panel in place. Then if you want just the preview panel to be moveable, set it to float. Now you'll be able to move that panel without everything else floating around.

Yes! That worked! Thanks so much!

And is it just me, or is it very frustrating to search in Poser 11?


hborre posted Mon, 22 February 2021 at 3:32 PM

I rarely use the search feature in the library for any of the versions I run. Although y-phil suggested using the freeware called Everything to do specific searches on your drives, it works better and you can narrow the searches to particular topics. I might give it a go and see if it is possible to do drag and drop into the scenes.


RedPhantom posted Tue, 23 February 2021 at 7:59 AM Site Admin

Try looking for the ContentLibrary.html. Load Poser. Search for the file. Mine was in Program Files\Smith MicroPoser 11\Runtime\serverRoot\nonVirtualAssets\ContentLibrary\release-1.9.1\ContentLibrary (or where ever you installed poser) open that in your internet browser. You will get a poser library with a working search function. You can bookmark the link, but it will only work if Poser is open.

You might look to see if your Poser 9 has the same file and see what happens when you open that. It probably won't help, but it won't take much time to try.


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romangirl posted Tue, 23 February 2021 at 10:31 AM

Thanks!


seachnasaigh posted Thu, 04 March 2021 at 6:11 PM

I have P9SR1 Pro2012SR1 P9 SR3.1 Pro2012SR3.1 and P9SR3.2 (Windows Internet Explorer 11 fix) updaters, if @structure or one of the mods needs to add that to the available downloads.

Poser 12, in feet.  

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romangirl posted Fri, 05 March 2021 at 11:51 AM

seachnasaigh posted at 11:50AM Fri, 05 March 2021 - #4414283

I have P9SR1 Pro2012SR1 P9 SR3.1 Pro2012SR3.1 and P9SR3.2 (Windows Internet Explorer 11 fix) updaters, if @structure or one of the mods needs to add that to the available downloads. Thanks for your help!


romangirl posted Sun, 06 November 2022 at 11:59 AM

  Just now, I opened Poser 11, only to find all of my hundreds of characters, props, and scenes  gone.  Has Firefox done it again?  I had just downloaded the latest version of Firefox.  Please help!  I am very non-technical!


Rhia474 posted Sun, 06 November 2022 at 12:36 PM

You need to re-add your runtimes if you never used P11 before. Or if you moved them into a different drive.

romangirl posted Sun, 06 November 2022 at 1:21 PM

I have been using P11 for a long time.  Never moved them into a different drive.  When I was using P9 years ago, a Firefox update removed my figures, props, scenes, so I got P11.  I believe the latest Firefox update did the same thing, wiped out my stuff.


DCArt posted Sun, 06 November 2022 at 1:38 PM

Have you added your previous runtimes to Poser 11 as external libraries?



romangirl posted Sun, 06 November 2022 at 2:16 PM

Good question.  Wherever I install files , I always place them In the old Poser  7 folder.   But I noticed earlier today,  Poser 7  does not appear when I do a search. I use P11 but use P7 as my runtime.  I guess I’ll have to create a new  Poser 7 folder.  I do know that when I open P7,  I find the files. But P7 had a very poor search engine. Thanks.


hborre posted Sun, 06 November 2022 at 2:32 PM

IIRC, P7 still adhered to the old Program files folder install which is now taboo due to the current Windows version(s).  Trying to access readable/writable content in that location will be blocked or interfered with by UAC.  If this is the case, you are better off relocating the P7 runtime to a different area away from the Program Files folder.  It sounds like Firefox not deleting your content but rendering them inaccessible.  Conduct a disc search for something you know the name of and see if you get a hit.


DCArt posted Sun, 06 November 2022 at 2:37 PM

romangirl posted at 2:16 PM Sun, 6 November 2022 - #4448552

Good question.  Wherever I install files , I always place them In the old Poser  7 folder.   But I noticed earlier today,  Poser 7  does not appear when I do a search. I use P11 but use P7 as my runtime.  I guess I’ll have to create a new  Poser 7 folder.  I do know that when I open P7,  I find the files. But P7 had a very poor search engine. Thanks.

If you still have all of your Poser 7 files on your hard drive, ALL you have to do is this ...

Go to the Poser 11 library. 

In the top of the window, below the different library category items, you will see two buttons. One with a plus sign, and one with a minus sign. 

Click the one with the Plus sign to ADD an external runtime.

A window will open up, and you can then locate your Poser 7 runtime library folder.  NOTE:  DO NOT click the "Runtime" folder. Click the folder above that (which, will be your "Poser 7 Library" folder or whatever you named it.

I currently have 14 external runtime folders added to Poser 12. I separate them by character, or maybe even by props or hair. It's a lot easier to find things when you don't have to wade through a huge runtime folder.



romangirl posted Mon, 07 November 2022 at 1:35 PM

DCArt posted at 2:37 PM Sun, 6 November 2022 - #4448555

romangirl posted at 2:16 PM Sun, 6 November 2022 - #4448552

Good question.  Wherever I install files , I always place them In the old Poser  7 folder.   But I noticed earlier today,  Poser 7  does not appear when I do a search. I use P11 but use P7 as my runtime.  I guess I’ll have to create a new  Poser 7 folder.  I do know that when I open P7,  I find the files. But P7 had a very poor search engine. Thanks.

If you still have all of your Poser 7 files on your hard drive, ALL you have to do is this ...

Go to the Poser 11 library. 

In the top of the window, below the different library category items, you will see two buttons. One with a plus sign, and one with a minus sign. 

Click the one with the Plus sign to ADD an external runtime.

A window will open up, and you can then locate your Poser 7 runtime library folder.  NOTE:  DO NOT click the "Runtime" folder. Click the folder above that (which, will be your "Poser 7 Library" folder or whatever you named it.

I currently have 14 external runtime folders added to Poser 12. I separate them by character, or maybe even by props or hair. It's a lot easier to find things when you don't have to wade through a huge runtime folder.



romangirl posted Mon, 07 November 2022 at 1:51 PM

romangirl posted at 1:35 PM Mon, 7 November 2022 - #4448624
DCArt posted at 2:37 PM Sun, 6 November 2022 - #4448555

romangirl posted at 2:16 PM Sun, 6 November 2022 - #4448552

Good question.  Wherever I install files , I always place them In the old Poser  7 folder.   But I noticed earlier today,  Poser 7  does not appear when I do a search. I use P11 but use P7 as my runtime.  I guess I’ll have to create a new  Poser 7 folder.  I do know that when I open P7,  I find the files. But P7 had a very poor search engine. Thanks.

If you still have all of your Poser 7 files on your hard drive, ALL you have to do is this ...

Go to the Poser 11 library. 

In the top of the window, below the different library category items, you will see two buttons. One with a plus sign, and one with a minus sign. 

Click the one with the Plus sign to ADD an external runtime.

A window will open up, and you can then locate your Poser 7 runtime library folder.  NOTE:  DO NOT click the "Runtime" folder. Click the folder above that (which, will be your "Poser 7 Library" folder or whatever you named it.

I currently have 14 external runtime folders added to Poser 12. I separate them by character, or maybe even by props or hair. It's a lot easier to find things when you don't have to wade through a huge runtime folder.




DCArt posted Mon, 07 November 2022 at 2:22 PM

If you are trying to follow up on this post I'm not seeing a reply. Only a quote of my earlier post.



romangirl posted Tue, 08 November 2022 at 10:04 AM

Thanks for sticking with me .  In the Poser 11 search box, I notice there is no "library in the top left corner." I click on "add library," which opens "browse for folder."  Then I click  on Poser 7 files (not runtime below). When I add  it (it has loads of files), I keep getting that the library is empty .


romangirl posted Tue, 08 November 2022 at 10:11 AM

I can open LaFemme so I must be screwed up somewhere.


romangirl posted Tue, 08 November 2022 at 10:48 AM

Thankfully, I can open the P7 files  in Poser 7.  But the "search engine" is pretty pitiful.


romangirl posted Wed, 09 November 2022 at 2:49 PM

DCArt.....I've not been able to get online, so please forgive me.   Don't know if you can see my past comment.  I don't see a "reply" any where, but am "adding comment."  Hope you can see it.


Y-Phil posted Sat, 12 November 2022 at 2:21 PM

romangirl posted at 10:48 AM Tue, 8 November 2022 - #4448715

Thankfully, I can open the P7 files  in Poser 7.  But the "search engine" is pretty pitiful.

Just in case: if you need the best search engine for windows, it's Everything.

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TwiztidKidd posted Sun, 13 November 2022 at 4:08 PM Online Now!

Get WizTree, it's free: https://diskanalyzer.com/download

I got the portable version so I don't have to install anything, and see where your Poser Runtimes are. They should be a few hefty Gb.

You might have accidentally drag-n-drop the Runtime folders somewhere else... in a nearby folder? Look in the Recycle Bin... under it LOL!... they gotta be somewhere.



romangirl posted Mon, 14 November 2022 at 10:10 AM

I don’t know what I did, but my beloved characters are back.  Thanks all!


romangirl posted Thu, 22 December 2022 at 2:39 PM

Now although my character appears in the Material room of Poser 11, it is invisible in the Pose room.  Help again!


DCArt posted Thu, 22 December 2022 at 3:07 PM

It's really difficult to diagnose a problem without screen shots. There's no way we can tell what is going on without additional information.

And no offense, but this problem doesn't make sense. If you see it in the material room, you should also see it in the Pose room.



hborre posted Thu, 22 December 2022 at 4:23 PM

I can only ascertain that you can still see the Material zones and shaders in the Material Room but that the figure may not be visible in the Pose Room.  As DCArt commented, there isn't enough information conveyed to diagnose the problem.  Screencaps will be very helpful, especially the Propertied/Parameter panel and completely opened material shader nodes.


romangirl posted Fri, 23 December 2022 at 10:35 AM

Here are the Material  Room and Pose Room.

hborre posted Fri, 23 December 2022 at 10:42 AM

Images did not upload.


romangirl posted Sat, 24 December 2022 at 10:30 AM

hborre posted at 10:42 AM Fri, 23 December 2022 - #4452400

Images did not upload.

Frigid cold.  Computer problems.  When I post the pictures, I can't send.  I'll be back, I hope.

romangirl posted Mon, 26 December 2022 at 1:56 PM

Hope you all enjoyed Christmas.  I'm almost ready to give up.   I may be back.   Sorry I've been bugging you.


romangirl posted Mon, 26 December 2022 at 2:19 PM

One last comment.  I was just working on a figure in the Pose room.  All was fine.  And then I accidentally  moved the arrow to the top, and the figure just disappeared.   Couldn't get it back.  I went to File, Recent Files and clicked on the recent one I was working on.  Nothing. 


romangirl posted Mon, 26 December 2022 at 2:21 PM

And when this happens, I can't open any previous files.


hborre posted Mon, 26 December 2022 at 4:18 PM

This almost sounds like a floating window disappearing behind another panel or all the panels closing at once leaving you with a blank UI like the one below. Although I doubt that the windows are all closed without asking to save first.

I have asked before and I will ask again, can you provide a screencap of your Pose Room?  Without this illustrated information, we cannot offer an adequate solution.  Do you know how to perform a screencap?  If the User Interface is becoming problematic, you can reset it back to Factory settings under General Preferences.

                                                                                        


DCArt posted Mon, 26 December 2022 at 5:11 PM

To add to what hborre said ...

Open Poser.

Choose Edit > General Preferences.

Click the Interface tab in the General Preferences dialog.

Click the Launch to Factory State button and choose OK.

Restart Poser.

This will restart Poser with the factory-set interface.



romangirl posted Tue, 27 December 2022 at 3:03 PM

I keep sending you pics of Materials and Pose rooms.  Don't know if they are appearing.


romangirl posted Tue, 27 December 2022 at 3:04 PM

I did as you told,  factory-set interface didn't change.


romangirl posted Tue, 27 December 2022 at 3:25 PM

When I go to Windows Document Windows size, the dimensions are ridiculous, Like a "1."  When I reset to normal numbers, a figure appears.  At least for now.


TwiztidKidd posted Tue, 27 December 2022 at 3:39 PM Online Now!

Restore the Poser folder to a previous date... or restore Windows to a previous date.



DCArt posted Tue, 27 December 2022 at 3:51 PM

romangirl posted at 3:25 PM Tue, 27 December 2022 - #4452592

When I go to Windows Document Windows size, the dimensions are ridiculous, Like a "1."  When I reset to normal numbers, a figure appears.  At least for now.

That explains it. How did your document window size get set so low?

Try Edit > General Preferences, and then click the DOCUMENT tab. For launch behavior, set "Launch to factory scene". 

As far as not being able to see the images, you must not be attaching them to your post correctly.  You should be able to just drag if rom your desktop and drop it into the reply window, and it will say "Drop image or text". Just let go of the mouse button and you will eventually see a line of text that shows the image path.




DCArt posted Tue, 27 December 2022 at 3:52 PM

TwiztidKidd posted at 3:39 PM Tue, 27 December 2022 - #4452593

Restore the Poser folder to a previous date... or restore Windows to a previous date.

I'm not sure that will solve the issue, given that it appears to be related to her document window size.



hborre posted Tue, 27 December 2022 at 3:56 PM

Word of caution about restoring to a previous Windows Timepoint to reset Poser, it might affect your licensing connection and invalidate your call home.

@romangirl: how exactly are you adding screencaps to your comments?  You should be able to see a preview image in the comments when you either drag and drop or copy and paste it into your comments.  If you don't see this happen then the image will not show up in the comment field.  


DCArt posted Tue, 27 December 2022 at 4:01 PM

hborre posted at 3:56 PM Tue, 27 December 2022 - #4452597

Word of caution about restoring to a previous Windows Timepoint to reset Poser, it might affect your licensing connection and invalidate your call home.

Agreed. Best not mess with resetting dates. 




hborre posted Tue, 27 December 2022 at 4:23 PM

Under the circumstances, the change to the Document Windows size is indicative that the Preview panel is undocked, a floating palette that can easily be affected by values in the Preview Dimensions.  The best remedy is to constrain the palette by properly docking it to the IU.  

In terms of launching Poser completely to factory settings, you need to make this selection under 2 tabs, Document and Interface, in General Preferences.  Otherwise, you may not see any changes.

@romangirl: if any of this makes sense, you should be able to navigate through Poser and reset the proper parameters to prevent this from happening in the future.  If you don't understand what you are attempting to do, please acknowledge that you don't know and allow us to guide you through the process.


RedPhantom posted Tue, 27 December 2022 at 10:42 PM Site Admin

When posting screencaps, make sure to use JPG. The forum seems to eat pngs.


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romangirl posted Wed, 28 December 2022 at 10:24 AM

hborre posted at 4:23 PM Tue, 27 December 2022 - #4452599

Under the circumstances, the change to the Document Windows size is indicative that the Preview panel is undocked, a floating palette that can easily be affected by values in the Preview Dimensions.  The best remedy is to constrain the palette by properly docking it to the IU.  

In terms of launching Poser completely to factory settings, you need to make this selection under 2 tabs, Document and Interface, in General Preferences.  Otherwise, you may not see any changes.

@romangirl: if any of this makes sense, you should be able to navigate through Poser and reset the proper parameters to prevent this from happening in the future.  If you don't understand what you are attempting to do, please acknowledge that you don't know and allow us to guide you through the process.



romangirl posted Wed, 28 December 2022 at 10:24 AM

Thanks so much, all of you!  Happy New Year!


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romangirl posted at 10:24 AM Wed, 28 December 2022 - #4452629

Thanks so much, all of you!  Happy New Year!

Happy New Year! May 2023 not suck! lol