First at all, forgive my english, is not my prymary language. I am experiencing strange things with Bryce 3D, my work is going always to be anulate. I lost about 8 graphics already.:-(( I am newby with bryce. Let me try to explain... Each time I put an object and/or do something on the pic I am rendering it and also aliasing .. Then, I save it as *.br3 file. When I go to open the pic I did I can see it on screen, BUT not on little screen on top.. the terrains are disapearing and if I go to check them by editing the pic, they are not there anymore. I dont know what to do anymore. Perhaps I did a mistake with some command on screen, dont know. Any help will be very apreciated.:-) Thanks a lots in advance, Elizabeth

Hi lisa, if you open br3 or br4 Files in Bryce, you have to render the Image again !!!!!!!!!! After Rendering everything should be OK Greetz, GVP

This part I understand.. "When I go to open the pic I did I can see it on screen, BUT not on little screen on top.." Make sure you have the "Auto-Update" option checked in the preview (little screen on top) window pull-down menu. Make sure any objects you create are not "hidden" in the object attributes menu. Hope this helps some... bigrobot

Thanks Jrr and bigrobot.:-) But its not working. I am trying here to find something to fix this problem. I did some tests and I found something can be a tip to know what is hapening. 1. I made a pic with 3 mountains, each one at his place, saving them before render, checking out if they were not hiden and also if auto-update was abled. And, since I have missing parts when I try open the pic, I grouped all mountains to have only one object. So, I saved and reopened the pic and got the same: pic is ok on screen, but the little screen have missing parts. I went to edit mode, ungrouped the "object" and guess what! They were there, each over other and not at place they should be. 2. I did a new pic, again with the 3 mountains. After the first mountain, I saved the file, closed it and opened to see if the mountain were there. And yes, the mountain was there. Then, I made the second mountain (not grouped with the first one), saved before and also after render and so I reopened the pic. I could see the 2 mountains on screen BUT NOT on little screen. There I could see only the second one. I went to edit mode and I found I had 2 mountains there, one over the other. The first time I sent mail to this forum I was talking about other pics and these ones had parts missing. No idea where they went! I hope this can help a little more.:-) Thanks again, Beth

Beth I'm not sure but it sounds like you have the original Bryce 3D without the patch. You have to be sure Autokey is OFF. (click the white globe on the bottom right of the screen to be sure you're in time mode (not selection mode). Then click the triangle to the left of it to get the little menu. Be sure Autokey is not checked). Then, whenever you go to the terrain editor look for the lit golden key at the bottom. If it is lit (bright color) then hit the - next to it to delete it before you exit the terrain editor. Spit

1. I've noticed that when creating images, the small screen doesn't show the full picture that renders in the big screen. I just ignore that. Objects that are small will disappear in the little screen. 2. Mountains should show on both screens. What you are describing is a program error. You have two choices. First, clean your truncated files, (go to start, run, and type in 'scandisk'.) Then defragment your hard drive. Go back to start, run, and type in 'defrag'. If you have something like Norton Utilities 2001 run that and run windoctor to clean your registry. If those dont fix it, copy your .br3 files to a different directory, call it c:brycedoc (keep it to 8 letters or less) if you like. Uninstall Bryce and reinstall it then open and close your files in the new directory you made. What you are describing sounds to me like a very corrupted hard drive or program file. Scrubbing (with backup) and reinstalling works wonders if that routine windoze maintenance above doesn't work. I'm assuming you've rebooted and have the same problem when you do so, if not, reboot a couple of times and see if that fixes it. Good luck.

I really think defrag and scandisk are way overrated. My machine is
nice and stable and I defrag about once a year. I think it's a
Bryce 3D spurious keyframe problem. The symptoms are exactly those
exhibited with the original release. The things it did to terrains.
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Hey Spit.:-)) Thank you very much for your help. We are almost there.:) I mean my autokey was off. I remember I did some changes at key thing when I was playing with rotate objects (I saw on manual something to do with keys) and after this I didnt work with Bryce. After lost graphics a lots I decided dont sleep this night to finish what I wanted to do because I was afraid to lost everything again. So, I received your reply and I followed your instructions (I saved several versions because I was not sure I understood about time selection versus time mode) and I got the same at all of them: I lost only the first mountain I did (used almost as terrain). Not too bad huh? I dont think is a hard drive problem: I am a norton holic. Maybe have some tool checked when it should be disabled, dont know.. And I think dont have any problem use mountain at terrains place: I did it already (before play with rotation) and it worked fine. Thank you a lots! Its not perfect but I can assure you Its not funny see a work lost, mainly because I am newbie with Bryce, so I spend hours to make only a mountain. Beth