Any ideas how to get my libraries to come back?

Yep, same here. Is that it then? Is it over to Daz Studio or can the Poser world be saved still?

phil_lawson posted at 4:17AM Tue, 12 January 2021 - #4410001

Yep, same here. Is that it then? Is it over to Daz Studio or can the Poser world be saved still?

Meh. They're probably going to tell me to buy Poser 12. We'll see. I'd prefer a fix for their broken shit that I paid real money for.

Hmm, I think it's looking pretty bad for all of us users of pre 11 Poser. This is what Microsoft have put out about a Windows update that finally does for Flash. I've not looked into it further yet but it looks like unless you reinstall windows and tell it not to install the update there's no way back. Hopefully I'm wrong and there'll be a way around it.

This is from the Adobe site. looks like we're stuffed!

Anyone know of an alternative library viewer or is it upgrade to 12? Poser can't be blamed for this one!

Same problem. Using Poser 9 Windows 7 ultimate (service pack 1).

I tried installing flash from an old download I had but it comes up with Internal Error and deletes the download. £183.95 is a lot to upgrade to 12 but hey ho there you go!

Open your Poser.ini found in your settings normally in

AppData/Roaming/Poser Pro/ "Version of Poser"

Open the Poser.ini with Preferable Notepad ++ Free software. Activate in search Incremental search ! search for the line

LIBRARY_IS_AIR 0 and replace with LIBRARY_IS_AIR 1

LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 0 and replace to LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 1

the second might vary and makes no difference once you made the changes it will always drop to type 1 ... save your changes and your library will work again.

Settings might vary so just change these two Lines and make sure that at the end you have LIBRARY_IS_AIR 1 to avoid having a simple white library it is how I could fix all poser versions 2010 2012 2014 so that they work again.

COR! Thanks for this. I knew I was thick for a reason! I've tried it and it works. I can't seem to dock the library now but I can just put it at the side.

I wondered if others had experienced this as i knew the "clock was ticking" for Flash.

Certainly looks like a dead simple fix, but I'm hesitant to "edit" the .INI (for fear of making things worse) unless I I feel I can easily restore the "current" version. Can one 'copy" and "save" the .INI with added characters like "Poser.INI-Old" which can later be dropped if the registry edit seriously trashes Poser?

Sincerely,

Bill

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Hi Bill, as someone has helped me I shall attempt to help you. It's a simple thing to do really so all you need to do is go to the 'AppData/Roaming/Poser Pro/ "Version of Poser"' folder as mentioned earlier in Windows Explorer and right click the Poser.ini file, choose Copy then right click again and choose Paste. This should make a backup of your Poser.ini file (Mine's called Poser - Copy.ini). This will be the backup of your existing .ini file. You can then edit the Poser.ini file itself. If anything goes wrong you can delete the Poser.ini file you edited and rename the copy back to the original name. Remember to make a copy again though before you edit it again.

Just to help in case you're not sure how to access AppData, here's a pic of a quick way to get there.

@Redfern

the Poser.Ini is in your Preferred folder setup so it in not really a main setting like you would find in the Poser Install root folder. It means that it is based on your Personal setup not on the basic Programming of Poser. changing the Values from 0>1 or via versa does not affect your system in any case, it is like a on off switch nothing else. turning on off the Air feature just is causing a reset and naturally disabling the docking witch is the main cause of the Flash Lock. Poser runs with Adobe Air.

but if you really fear changing the values manually for having a working Poser 10 and below you have the alternatives of using the XL extended Library or the Library Manager. If you do not have any of these and still do not want to turn the Poser.ini switches then you can use your common window browser and drag drop the figures models right into the Poser Main window this option also works like a charm with no need of any Poser library.

Thanks! I'll try this during my lunch break when I can switch the ethernet cable from my company laptop back to my personal machine.

Sincerely,

Bill

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I have the same issue on Pro 2014 Mac. How is it that a company can reach into your computer and remove stuff like that?

Anyhow, I've been using Advanced Library Manager and it seems to work fine, plus I upgraded to Poser 11 a while back. I guess I dodged a bullet but appreciate the fixes posted on this forum.

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This is exactly the issue of Companies building in Kill switches into Apps and Programms , Smith Micro, Bondware, Microsoft, Apple etc. there all the same control freaks. Happen already with the SM Bondware fusion, they hit that Kill switch and you have to play there little game.

So just Imagine what would happen if Microsoft or Apple would just say one day " Sorry we do not support our Programms any longer " turning off all licenses, shutting down all computers and the Internet with just a klick ! We live under a Diktator cyber world nothing else , and every company wants to dictate a little in there own way ! But all this is the way we want it, giving them the rights do add these features into apps and Hardware letting Companies control you.

Azath posted at 10:51AM Tue, 12 January 2021 - #4410019

Open your Poser.ini found in your settings normally in

AppData/Roaming/Poser Pro/ "Version of Poser"

Open the Poser.ini with Preferable Notepad ++ Free software. Activate in search Incremental search ! search for the line

LIBRARY_IS_AIR 0 and replace with LIBRARY_IS_AIR 1

LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 0 and replace to LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 1

While it's already been said a few times, it can be said one more time: Thank you!

Got the XL library manager in the marketplace. It works!!! Will take me a little getting used to but I will do it.

kelchris3 posted at 11:27AM Tue, 12 January 2021 - #4410061

Got the XL library manager in the marketplace. It works!!! Will take me a little getting used to but I will do it.

Is that still available? I just did a search in Marketplace for it and could not find it.

Edit: With a little more persistence, I think I found it.

It's still available:

https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/bcs/xl---content-library-for-poser/88878

The RMP search function is terrible. I get much better results from Google.

@ kelchris3

You will still have to edit the Poser.ini file and switch the LIBRARY_IS_AIR and LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE it is essential even if you just put LIBRARY_IS_AIR to zero and use the basic non flash version! the reason is that if you wish to add a new Runtime Path into Poser you can only do it through the Poser Library and not through the XL library manager! there is no option to add a New runtime in these Optional Libraries. The only option you would have is to add a new path into the LibraryPrefs found at the same place as the Poser.ini , Beleive me it will be less trouble making a quick fix on the Poser.ini then having to add manually the lines for new runtimes into the LibraryPrefs.xml

kelchris3 posted at 12:33PM Tue, 12 January 2021 - #4410061

Got the XL library manager in the marketplace. It works!!! Will take me a little getting used to but I will do it.

I purchased XL as well and uploaded it to Poser 10. How were you able to launch it?

Successful use of P3DO to replace flash library. It uses a Python Poser script link to load the library. Browse to your library, double click the item icon and voila! http://www.senosoft.com

@ssmith

go to the tab Scripts on top of the Bar .... you should have a Folder called Dimension3D in there you will find the XL_ ?your version klick on it .

alternative option to run the script when Poser will start !

How to Start Python Scripts together with Poser

If you want to run a Python script each time when Poser starts, you can do so from the fileposerStartup.py, which is located in RuntimePythonposerScripts. This is a Python script that isexecuted once while Poser is starting.To start a Python script from poserStartUp.py, add the following line to this file:poser.ExecFile(":Runtime:Python:poserScripts:script.py")The path may be an absolute path (use \ instead of as path separator in that case) or a relative pathstarting with :Runtime as in the example above.However, Poser may not yet be fully initialized when this start-up script runs, and some scripts mayfail because of this. In that case, you may start a script with a delay for a few seconds. In Poser 8and up, this can be done as follows .....

D3D Tutorials Pdf

in your case add this line right under the

poser.ExecFile(mainButtonsPath)

poser.ExecFile(":Runtime:Python:poserScripts:ScriptsMenu:Dimension3D:XL_P9.pyc")

in the startup Py ... the XL Library will run when you start Poser

Azath posted at 2:48PM Tue, 12 January 2021 - #4410057

@ false1

This is exactly the issue of Companies building in Kill switches into Apps and Programms , Smith Micro, Bondware, Microsoft, Apple etc. there all the same control freaks. Happen already with the SM Bondware fusion, they hit that Kill switch and you have to play there little game.

So just Imagine what would happen if Microsoft or Apple would just say one day " Sorry we do not support our Programms any longer " turning off all licenses, shutting down all computers and the Internet with just a klick ! We live under a Diktator cyber world nothing else , and every company wants to dictate a little in there own way ! But all this is the way we want it, giving them the rights do add these features into apps and Hardware letting Companies control you.

Well, my question was rhetorical but you’ve summed it up pretty well. Sometimes it takes a number of years before a consumer realizes how shabbily they’re being treated in general. Maybe there was some sort of rule that prevented Bondware from posting the fix that the community is now sharing. Maybe I missed it. Or maybe it’s “just business.”

They're probably just busy with Poser 12. I think Poser 11 is all Bondware got from Smith Micro. Someone said they don't even have the service releases for earlier versions of Poser.

Azath posted at 4:08PM Tue, 12 January 2021 - #4410071

@ssmith

go to the tab Scripts on top of the Bar .... you should have a Folder called Dimension3D in there you will find the XL_ ?your version klick on it .

alternative option to run the script when Poser will start !

How to Start Python Scripts together with Poser

If you want to run a Python script each time when Poser starts, you can do so from the fileposerStartup.py, which is located in RuntimePythonposerScripts. This is a Python script that isexecuted once while Poser is starting.To start a Python script from poserStartUp.py, add the following line to this file:poser.ExecFile(":Runtime:Python:poserScripts:script.py")The path may be an absolute path (use instead of as path separator in that case) or a relative pathstarting with :Runtime as in the example above.However, Poser may not yet be fully initialized when this start-up script runs, and some scripts mayfail because of this. In that case, you may start a script with a delay for a few seconds. In Poser 8and up, this can be done as follows .....

D3D Tutorials Pdf

Thanks. That worked. Although in poking around I get an error message for some of my DAZ content.

Just wanted to note that the mt edit to the .INI file did the trick!

True, it's an external application that will be "tucked behind" whenever one clicks upon the Poser workspace and I must click the new separate icon upon the taskbar to bring it "front" again, but one extra click is a small price to pay to have an accessible content library window again.

Sincerely,

Bill

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Same here... I'm gonna look through this thread... My 11.3 works, but it's on a Win 10 laptop. My old eyes are too used to having 2 big monitors - Poser on one, and libraries on the other.

Question: Will the new Poser 12 work with Windoze 7?

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When I use the air option, I get this error.!

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Anyone got any suggestions?

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Do these fixes not work for p9? I found the LIBRARY_IS_AIR line in the ini file, but not the other one (Find says "Not Found"). And simply changing the AIR line to 1 did not work.

The fix works for Poser Pro 2014. I noticed the library is in a separate window and doesn't seem to dock anymore. It's better than nothing so I'm not going to complain.

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I'll have to give that fix a try, but I'll do it tomorrow.. Right now, I'm too burned out and frustrated to do much else than watch my DVDs of SW Clone Wars. At least I'll get to see Ahsoka cutting battle droids in half and looking really cute doing it. ?

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whbos posted at 8:42PM Tue, 12 January 2021 - #4410137

The fix works for Poser Pro 2014. I noticed the library is in a separate window and doesn't seem to dock anymore. It's better than nothing so I'm not going to complain.

I can deal with that... My Libraries live on a second monitor anyway, so if it works tomorrow, I'll be a happy guy.

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Azath posted at 10:46PM Tue, 12 January 2021 - #4410019

Open your Poser.ini found in your settings normally in

AppData/Roaming/Poser Pro/ "Version of Poser"

Open the Poser.ini with Preferable Notepad ++ Free software. Activate in search Incremental search ! search for the line

LIBRARY_IS_AIR 0 and replace with LIBRARY_IS_AIR 1

LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 0 and replace to LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 1

the second might vary and makes no difference once you made the changes it will always drop to type 1 ... save your changes and your library will work again.

Does anybody have a solution for pose Pro 2012 ? The line "LIBRARY_EMBEDEDDED_TYPE 0 does not exist in the .ini file. is there an other line to modufy ?

Editing the .INI file worked for me, though I had to move the library to the second monitor since it keeps going behind the main Poser screen. But now every time I start the program I get this.

The certificate in question is for contentparadise.com. Anyone has any idea how to get rid of this prompt? :/

Thank you everyone. I am a Windows 10 Poser 10 user. Woke up yesterday to find my libraries held hostage. Followed instructions in Azath's original post and Poser is once again running.

I get the certificate message too. It's something to do with content Paradise. I got rid of mine by setting the library to Embedded in the preferences but then the menu went white. I prefer the menu floating so I just click Yes. I'm not too hot on operating system stuff but if I find a way to stop it I'll post it here.

Azath posted at 5:47AM Wed, 13 January 2021 - #4410019

Open your Poser.ini found in your settings normally in

AppData/Roaming/Poser Pro/ "Version of Poser"

Open the Poser.ini with Preferable Notepad ++ Free software. Activate in search Incremental search ! search for the line

LIBRARY_IS_AIR 0 and replace with LIBRARY_IS_AIR 1

LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 0 and replace to LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 1

the second might vary and makes no difference once you made the changes it will always drop to type 1 ... save your changes and your library will work again.

Thanks for the quick fix! worked like a charm!

Bakensobek posted at 6:48AM Wed, 13 January 2021 - #4410151

Editing the .INI file worked for me, though I had to move the library to the second monitor since it keeps going behind the main Poser screen. But now every time I start the program I get this.

The certificate in question is for contentparadise.com. Anyone has any idea how to get rid of this prompt? :/

This would be rather complicated to remove ! you would need to search the Line Contentparadise and or Renderosity in the Poser.exe and change the links , most probably this will blast the exe after save if you are not experienced with such changes.

Hallo die Meldung kommt bei mir auch nach dem die Dateien umbenannt habe. Einfach auf ok klicken dann ist die Bibliothek da.

Azath posted at 9:25AM Wed, 13 January 2021 - #4410164

Bakensobek posted at 6:48AM Wed, 13 January 2021 - #4410151

Editing the .INI file worked for me, though I had to move the library to the second monitor since it keeps going behind the main Poser screen. But now every time I start the program I get this.

The certificate in question is for contentparadise.com. Anyone has any idea how to get rid of this prompt? :/

This would be rather complicated to remove ! you would need to search the Line Contentparadise and or Renderosity in the Poser.exe and change the links , most probably this will blast the exe after save if you are not experienced with such changes.

Hallo die Meldung kommt bei mir auch nach dem die Dateien umbenannt habe. Einfach auf OK klicken dann ist die Bibliothek da. Super!! Danke für den Tipp! Gruß

Azath posted at 12:38PM Wed, 13 January 2021 - #4410019

Open your Poser.ini found in your settings normally in

AppData/Roaming/Poser Pro/ "Version of Poser"

Open the Poser.ini with Preferable Notepad ++ Free software. Activate in search Incremental search ! search for the line

LIBRARY_IS_AIR 0 and replace with LIBRARY_IS_AIR 1

LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 0 and replace to LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 1

the second might vary and makes no difference once you made the changes it will always drop to type 1 ... save your changes and your library will work again.

It doesn't work for me. Each time I change with Notepad LIBRARY_IS_AIR to 1 and open Poser 9, the program rewrites the .ini file and LIBRARY_IS_AIR is 0 again so the ex-flash window failure remains cold and dead... :(

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@Casette

once it is set to "0" it will reset it self every time from "1" back to zero in Poser 9 ! so to fix this issue make your change and set it as LIBRARY_IS_AIR 1 , after this step save, right click the Poser.ini, in Property change the value to write Protected, run poser and the library will work. Shut down Poser and take the hook off the write Protection of the Poser.ini now you can start Poser again and it will always load with Air.

you also might want to make sure that the Flash library "Dead version" is already floating and Not embedded in Poser 9 . as you do not have the text line in the Poser9 ini

@ RedPhantom

have you tried reinstalling Adobe Air ? seems to me that there is an issue loading it.

I have 7 and 9 and unfortunately poser pro 12 from smith micro. My older versions work fine, but like others pro 12 doesn't work. I did go into the ini file but I didn't see a folder listed as 12 but found my "9" folder(C:UsersAppDataRoamingPoser Pro9) either way the ini didn't have the LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 0....anyone have any ideas?

@ Badlybehaved

in Poser 8 and 9 you will not need this line just change the Air feature to 1 , you can undock the Library manually in Poser when running, will be the same result .

I see they are offering Poser 11. Is the library in it dependent on Adobe?

Yes there is a solution if libraries has gone in P10 , due adobe flash stopage. I have W10/pc and Poser10. Solution: Exit Poser if it's running.

Find your poser.ini - the path may differ for you - mine is in

c:/Users/++user name++/AppData/Roaming/Poser/10

In your poser.ini look for

LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 0

and change the 0 to a 1.

-Save the poser.ini file. -Relaunch Poser 10. Your libraries will come back again. A little bit different in view, but they are back!

Does not work in Poser 10 Debut. It wants to connect to a non-existing website in the library column after changing the ini file as suggested..

kelchris3 posted at 7:32AM Thu, 14 January 2021 - #4410234

I see they are offering Poser 11. Is the library in it dependent on Adobe?

No. Poser 11 and 12 do not use flash or air.

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Okay, Tuesday evening and yesterday (Wednesday), everything worked with Adobe "Air" replacing the Flash function. This morning, however, when i started poser, Adobe "Air" is not running. Yes, I checked to see if it merely 'ducked behind" the active Poser window. Nope, "Air" was not even appearing upon the task bar.

Any thoughts?

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Oh, to clarify, I re-examined the .INI file to make sure the recommended parameter changes were still set to "1".

They are.

Sincerely,

Bill

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Oops! Never mind.

Somehow the "windows, library" parameter got unchecked. I clicked that and...POP... there was the "AIR" window.

Sincerely,

Bill

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I am temporarily making this thread a sticky for folks that may be having this issue. There are members chiming in and providing fixes.

The suggestion still doesn't work for me. I understand reading your posts that I should have installed on my system sometime in the past some kind of "Adobe Air", but never did.

Where O where can I download Air? Is it still free like Flash?

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Apparently Adobe EOL'ed Air back in 2019. It's been taken over by Harmon/Samsung. You can find it here: https://airsdk.harman.com/ However it is NOT free unless you meet certain qualifications and even then the free version is limited/watermarked/whatever. They do not sell it as once & done software either, no, you must subscribe. Subscriptions start at $199 US per year not including taxes and there is no guarantee it will even work or even install on your flavour of Windows, Mac or Poser, according to all the questions I've seen in the Adobe support community. Looks like the Air forum over there is deserted as none of the recent questions have been answered.

@ Byrdie guess you looked at a fraud Page LOL !!

Adobe Air is free of charge .

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Today when I opened Poser Pro 2014, it asked to update Adobe Air which is very much out of date on my computer. I refused to after all the problems with the now defunct Adobe Flash that killed our Libraries. I don't know if the Adobe Air update is necessary or just another trick to make Poser disappear for good. At this point I'm not too trusting. I know eventually I'll probably have to upgrade to Poser 12, but not now when it's in beta.

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Azath posted at 2:55AM Fri, 15 January 2021 - #4410307

@ Byrdie guess you looked at a fraud Page LOL !!

Adobe Air is free of charge .

Download from Here

No changes. I installed AIR, restarted the computer, checked that poser.ini (mine in C:UsersRafaAppDataRoamingPoser9 ) contains LIBRARY_IS_AIR 1 and value write Protected, and relaunching Poser 9 the bug remains.

IMHO, time to finally forget Poser and focus on DS... :(

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This is strange ! have you tried to undock the library ? actually it should look like this after the change.

I did.-

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At the moment, I'm able to use Poser 7 without losing the library. Not sure why or how long.

What happens to Poser 9 if I uninstall Adobe Flash?

Adobe Air is a cross-operating system runtime Applications built with Adobe programs such as Flash or Flex will use the AIR runtime to display -- because AIR comes the with the open-source WebKit HTML renderer, Web-like content can display on the desktop. That's the big difference between something like a Flash player and AIR: While Flash works over the Internet and in your Web browser, applications running off of AIR are based on the desktop and don't necessarily require a browser to work.

this might mean that you still need Flash on the computer, if you have uninstalled Flash then it might be the reason why Air does not work, but honestly I am not sure and I do not really feel like testing all possibilities or variables. There are different way's to bridge a Library for Poser so older poser are not lost at all. the only thing is that if you want to link other runtimes to Poser you will have to do it in the script if the built in runtime is not working. But even for this there might be a solution.

My Personal meaning is that the Legal owner should make some efforts to support users weather the software is sold or not , not really the task of users to always Puzzle out solutions, this just shows on how much Interest they have on there customers .

@ Casette

there might be another option for your issue , go to Edit load the General Preferences, in Library set the Launch behavior to External. you might have to remove the write protection in the Poser.ini

Edit > General Preferences > Library set > Launch behavior: there's no an "External" option :O

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ok now to make things clear we are in the same poser version ? 9.03.26149 Poser Pro 2012 ?

@ Azath once it is set to "0" it will reset it self every time from "1" back to zero in Poser 9 ! so to fix this issue make your change and set it as LIBRARY_IS_AIR 1 , after this step save, right click the Poser.ini, in Property change the value to write Protected, run poser and the library will work. Shut down Poser and take the hook off the write Protection of the Poser.ini now you can start Poser again and it will always load with Air.

Sorry to bother you again with this story but I need your help. I use Poser 9 and followed the instructions using Notepad but I'm lost at this point : "change the value to write Protected".

@ Naneth36

Lecture seule .... set it back after it worked else the Poser.ini can not update on launch and shut down.

but try first to change it in the General Preferences in Poser 2012 might already do the trick :)

For Poser Pro 2012 and 2014 users, there is the option to use External Library, which was the AIR Library. This may be able to be turned on in Poser 9 and/or Poser 10, I honestly can not recall. Poser 11 did not use Flash or AIR, though it was in one of the earlier installers, but disabled. Poser 12 does not use Flash or AIR.

Some security software will scream at you if Flash and/or older Adobe AIR is on your system from some reports I have had. I would not be surprised if an update in the future blocked it from even existing on a newer system.

A note on AIR...

In June 2019, Adobe announced it would begin transitioning ongoing support and development of Adobe AIR to HARMAN. Adobe will continue to provide support for versions 32 and earlier until the end of 2020, as support will be managed by HARMAN. It was eventually rebranded as simply AIR.

Unless you plan on updating, you may find AIR Library not working at some point in the near future.

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My Poser Pro 2012 is still working fine, but I use embedded libraries, so maybe that's the reason.

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@ Azath

I followed your instructions and checked everything : the modifications are OK now, Adobe Air is installed on my computer, but as Casette : no libraries. Maybe because I use this version of Poser 9
I don't have the "External Launch Behavior" option. Thank you very very much for you help.

I have Poser 9 and tried the original fix of setting "LIBRARY_IS_AIR" = 1, but nothing has changed and I'm still getting the Flash logo with no explanation. I believe I'm in the exact same situation as Naneth.

LampreyShade posted at 3:40PM Sat, 16 January 2021 - #4410473

I have Poser 9 and tried the original fix of setting "LIBRARY_IS_AIR" = 1, but nothing has changed and I'm still getting the Flash logo with no explanation. I believe I'm in the exact same situation as Naneth. Ditto for romangirl with Poser 9.

ratscloset posted at 6:36PM Sat, 16 January 2021 - #4410422

For Poser Pro 2012 and 2014 users, there is the option to use External Library, which was the AIR Library. This may be able to be turned on in Poser 9 and/or Poser 10, I honestly can not recall. Poser 11 did not use Flash or AIR, though it was in one of the earlier installers, but disabled. Poser 12 does not use Flash or AIR.

Some security software will scream at you if Flash and/or older Adobe AIR is on your system from some reports I have had. I would not be surprised if an update in the future blocked it from even existing on a newer system.

A note on AIR...

In June 2019, Adobe announced it would begin transitioning ongoing support and development of Adobe AIR to HARMAN. Adobe will continue to provide support for versions 32 and earlier until the end of 2020, as support will be managed by HARMAN. It was eventually rebranded as simply AIR.

Unless you plan on updating, you may find AIR Library not working at some point in the near future.

guess this would be rather bad ! if you check the Poser 11ui folder you will note that Air is still in there and I believe that you will also find it in poser 12 I do not think that allot of changes have been made and probably no major updates on the library of poser. just basic settings like store integration fixes so if it would be that way them poser 11 and 12 might also suffer big time in the future.

As for poser 9 I do not have it installed and I do not have a serial for it so I can not check why it is having issues running with Air. I just use the Pro versions of Poser and still have all of them running from Poser 4 up. but I have to say that you might want to think of upgrading at least to poser 10 up . ( Poser Pro 2014 ) as you get additional support for Weight map witch has not been built in Previous versions. Poser 5 and 6 are great if you have older scripts like the Environment Creator Deluxe and some other great ones that can help creating stuff for Newer Poser versions. But I think for most that still use Poser 9 if you can get a hand on Poser 10 2014 it would be a great alternative . No Internet activation no Kill switch like poser 11 and 12 is having and full support for almost all best pytons that have been made in the past. We all know what happens one day or another if there are control freaks behind a program. So you have to think about it as Poser 12 is still not finished and until the final stable release is done it might take a looong time.

I found this if anyone cares to test it... seems that will work with any Poser version

http://neocron.webspaceforme.net/library/downloads/ 

@romangirl - You can use Poser 7 to create your scene, save it and load it in Poser 9 & render it... until you find a solution for your Poser 9.

Naneth36 posted at 2:50AM Sun, 17 January 2021 - #4410470

@ Azath

I followed your instructions and checked everything : the modifications are OK now, Adobe Air is installed on my computer, but as Casette : no libraries. Maybe because I use this version of Poser 9
I don't have the "External Launch Behavior" option. Thank you very very much for you help.

Same here

@Azath I understand you but I'm working both Poser 9 and DS. If I need a paid update for a software I purchased and the current owner isn't interested in releasing a patch that fixes this bug, maybe is time to close finally my Poser and focus in DS.

And as far as I know there isn't already an update from Poser 9 to 10.-

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@Casette - add the missing line manually: LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 1 insert it as shown below or copy & paste it in all the way at the end of Poser.ini those are the last six lines from Poser.ini

LANGUAGE English 
LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 1 
FACEROOM_PREPARE 0
AUTO_REFRESH_IPR 0
DISABLE_PLUGIN_HARDWARE_ACCEL 0 
CONFORM_MAGNETS 0

TwiztidKidd posted at 11:15AM Sun, 17 January 2021 - #4410537

@Casette - add the missing line manually: LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 1 insert it as shown below or copy & paste it in all the way at the end of Poser.ini those are the last six lines from Poser.ini

LANGUAGE English 
LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 1 
FACEROOM_PREPARE 0
AUTO_REFRESH_IPR 0
DISABLE_PLUGIN_HARDWARE_ACCEL 0 
CONFORM_MAGNETS 0

No changes. First, those aren't the last six lines from Poser.ini in POSER 9. But I added manually the missing line below LIBRARY_IS_AIR 1. The bug remains and there's no libraries.

Suggestions?

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Poser 11 is not dependent on Adobe Flash. The reason versions of Poser 10 and below don't run is because the library is connected to Internet Explorer (IE). Adobe in their statement indicated hackers could find ways to access a person's computer using FlashPlayer, though personally, I think they could have issued security fixes instead of shelving it.

I'm in the process of buying a new Laptop to finally try out all that newfangled "realtime GPU render" goodness of Poser 11/12. But as this will be my first Windooze 10 machine, I first installed W10 on an older backup laptop, to see what I'm getting into.

Windooze 10 was slow as molasses on that machine but once I disabled the snakeoil, sorry, "WINDOWS DEFENDER", and threw a lot of "DO NOT SPY ON ME" tweaks on it, it seems, well, bearable.

Anyway, I installed a Poser 12 trial as well as my trusty old PP-2014, as my figure work depends on a ton of sometimes quite esoteric python scripts i collected over the last two decades and which are very likely to be not updated ever.

My PP-2014 install on that machine of course showed the "NO FLASH" error.

I changed the poser.ini file to "make library AIR", but still no library. Then I remembered that the library MUST ALSO be set to "EXTERNAL" in the "Launch Behavior" under "General Preferences".

(See pic)

As for Poser 9 and 10 "vanilla", I think I remember that those had NO EXTERNAL library, as that was just a "PRO" feature?

So their librarys are FLASH only.

And without FLASH (or AIR), no (native) Poser Library.

So you either:

1. Upgrade to Poser 12 (Which I can't recommend as long as you are dependent on legacy Python scripts for your work)
2. Buy one of the aftermarket Libraries. (Which have some limitations, though)
3. Use Windooze Exploder, err, Internet Explorer as a substitute library. (Actually not sure if this works in Poser 9 or 10 "vanilla"?)

Well, you could also migrate to Studio of course. ;-)

Which I'd actually have done years ago, but for my sculpting/rigging work the Morphbrush is essential. And I really, really like the accessibility of the "plain text" Poser files.

Still, between "Let's nuke all your Python scripts", cripple all your old Poser installs and make another woefully inadequate set of meshes our new "Faces of Poser", maybe not Studio, but stuff like Blender (If I figure out rigging in Poser, I think I can figure out rigging in Blender, too, eventually) is looking better and better.

Well, let's see what Poser 12 can do on a nw machine with a few more horses under the hood.

;-)

Poser 8, 9, 10, 11 all work using the explorer just like using the integrated library by drag and drop into the Poser window! if you use a doll like V4 want to add textures just drop em on her or on the loaded model you wish having it. if you want to put her clothes on ( Conforming cr2 ) you have two options, either drop into the universe it will not auto conform if you drop Her he's outfits on the doll they will auto conform. I actually always use this method when making a scene through the Win explorer.

if you can't load in any way the library like it is in the case of non Pro versions you might think to be stuck adding a new runtime ! True but for this there is a solution . Open the LibraryPrefs.xml found at the same place like the Poser.ini you will note lines that look like this

ContentFolder folder="E:/!Poser Runtime/Runtime/libraries" index="2" searchIndexed="1"

to add a new runtime make an additional line at the end with the Path of the additional runtime increasing the index number for every additional runtime so that it looks like this.

ContentFolder folder="E:/!Poser Runtime/Runtime/libraries" index="2" searchIndexed="1"

ContentFolder folder="E:/Sorted Runtime/Vioctoria4/Runtime/libraries" index="3" searchIndexed="1"

ContentFolder folder="E:/Sorted Runtime/Michael4/libraries" index="4" searchIndexed="1"

Ect.

Ect.

this stepp is essential when using new runtimes without the Poser library but no magic . after adding the lines in the txt doc make sure to save it . this method will result you having the best library.

if like non Pro Poser that have no chance to Load the Air you can in addition change the line in the Poser.ini NO_LIBRARY 0 to NO_LIBRARY 1 this will shut down the Library in Poser .

make sure if drag and drop from the explorer works in the non Pro versions if it does you are all set , after getting used to it you will now want to roll back as you will find your files with ease.

as a sample this is my new build Library that works in any Poser Program at least the pro versions . with a little fantasy you can build your own if you do not like the aspect of the win explorer.

"Windows can't find C: Appdata. Check spelling and try again." I'm usually good at this. Can't find the Appdata or the poser.ini. Would getting Poser 11 fix it?? I have Windows 7 and Poser 10. Maybe the Windows 7 is the problem. I've spent all weekend on it. I'll work on the other fixes like P3DO or XL library manager. About 25 years of my life and my money is invested in Poser. This is depressing.

@Talos - AppData folder is hidden ... Open Windows File Explorer ---> "WinKey+E" then go to click "Tools" from top menu then "Folder options..." then "View" in submenu and this is what I have:

You want to tell it to show Hidden files and folders at least and then click Apply. I have Windows 7 with updates off since years ago, Flash and Air work fine.

Once your able to see hidden folders and files navigate to this location shown up on top (Rick is my username in Win7, you are going to click on yours of course...)

Thank you TwiztidKidd! I found it! I made the edit okay, I just have the problem of it reverting back after I saved it, which has been discussed here somewhere. Have to look for that. :-)

Right click on Poser.ini and click Copy... Right click on the panel anywhere and click Paste... Now you have a copy.

Right click on Poser.ini and click Properties and then Previous Versions on top... you might get lucky

Just one more thing... lol don't set the Poser.ini file to read-only, Poser has to be able to write into this file.

Thanks! Worked so far, thank God. Do I need to click on "apply" for previous versions?

If you want to revert the two back to default... the value was 0 for both of them... and remember to exit Poser completely before you edit anything or else you won't have permission to save the changes made to Poser.ini

LIBRARY_IS_AIR 0

LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 0

LOL @ Poser 4 ... I still have that too

Why is the background white or is that the new look? Try to undock it?

No, that's okay. I did not like the 0 value. It made my hair turn gray and fall out. Is OK safe? I'm a bit burned out and wondering if the tendency to revert is going to make it necessary for me to edit the file every time I use Poser.

I don't know why the background is white. I don't know if I've ever tried to undock it before.

Launch behaviour - Embedded ... try that

If it keeps reverting change the AIR value to 1 save the file and set the attributes of Poser.ini to read-only... start and exit Poser a couple times then remove the read-only flag.

Azath posted at 1:18AM Mon, 18 January 2021 - #4410019

Open your Poser.ini found in your settings normally in

AppData/Roaming/Poser Pro/ "Version of Poser"

Open the Poser.ini with Preferable Notepad ++ Free software. Activate in search Incremental search ! search for the line

LIBRARY_IS_AIR 0 and replace with LIBRARY_IS_AIR 1

LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 0 and replace to LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 1

the second might vary and makes no difference once you made the changes it will always drop to type 1 ... save your changes and your library will work again.

Tried this, but there is no LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 0 line in the Poser 9.ini file

Talos posted at 2:46PM Mon, 18 January 2021 - #4410585

"Windows can't find C: Appdata. Check spelling and try again." I'm usually good at this. Can't find the Appdata or the poser.ini. Would getting Poser 11 fix it?? I have Windows 7 and Poser 10. Maybe the Windows 7 is the problem. I've spent all weekend on it. I'll work on the other fixes like P3DO or XL library manager. About 25 years of my life and my money is invested in Poser. This is depressing.

Same boat. No Appdata, no poser.ini. I have Windows 10 and Poser 9. My old Poser 7 hasn't been affected, but searching in the library is like going back to the 19th century. I too have spent a fortune on Poser.

TwiztidKidd posted at 2:52PM Mon, 18 January 2021 - #4410502

I found this if anyone cares to test it... seems that will work with any Poser version

http://neocron.webspaceforme.net/library/downloads/ 

@romangirl - You can use Poser 7 to create your scene, save it and load it in Poser 9 & render it... until you find a solution for your Poser 9.

That's my only option right now, thanks!

romangirl posted at 3:55PM Tue, 19 January 2021 - #4410659

Talos posted at 2:46PM Mon, 18 January 2021 - #4410585

"Windows can't find C: Appdata. Check spelling and try again." I'm usually good at this. Can't find the Appdata or the poser.ini. Would getting Poser 11 fix it?? I have Windows 7 and Poser 10. Maybe the Windows 7 is the problem. I've spent all weekend on it. I'll work on the other fixes like P3DO or XL library manager. About 25 years of my life and my money is invested in Poser. This is depressing.

Same boat. No Appdata, no poser.ini. I have Windows 10 and Poser 9. My old Poser 7 hasn't been affected, but searching in the library is like going back to the 19th century. I too have spent a fortune on Poser.

You need to make hidden files/folders visible in order to see Appdata and consequently the Poser.ini.

I use Poser Pro 2014 and changed to Poser.ini.

It works perfectly, as far as I know!!! What a shock to see this morning!!!

Thank you so very much!!!

Here is some helpful info on Poser and Flash

https://www.posersoftware.com/article/499/how-to-fix-your-runtime-now-that-adobe-flash-has-reached-end-of-life

Thank you so much!!!

If I install Poser 11 or 12, will my old library magically reappear?

No. You won't suddenly get a library in Poser 9. You can however import your poser 9 runtimes into poser 11 or 12 and use them in the newer version.

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A few possible answers for some issues I have seen here... To Poser Preferences, Embedded means Flash. The AIR Library was External. If you set the option to Embedded in the Preferences of the application, it will launch to Flash the next time. Not sure what happens with the edits in Poser.ini

If you are not seeing AppData folder, change your File Explorer View options to Show Hidden Files and Folders. AppData is hidden by default.

With Poser 12 (and 11) you can link to older Libraries using the Add Library option in Poser and selecting the Folder of the Library that contains the Runtime Folder. A few pointers on this....

If you have older scripts, you may encounter some errors on launch after linking the older Library. If you have it as part of your Application Folder, you may want to consider Copying it over to its own folder in the Public Documents (Shared Folder on Mac) and link from there after cleaning up the application files in the Runtime Folder of the Application. Most users of Poser 8 and later should not have this issue unless you intentionally set the Main Library to the Program Files Folder. I will add that before moving, check your User Account Virtual Store Folder for any content... long explanation, but the short of it is Windows may have added content installed or saved to the Main Library to the Virtual Store folder if the Library was in the Program Files folder.

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ATM, any script written in Python 2 will not work in P12, it currently uses Python 3. So be aware of this issue before transferring scripts to P12 or considering removing P11 from your system. Until scripts are updated or converted to Python 3, develop a solid workaround to minimize major any impact on your workflow.

For any mac users with Poser 10 or Poser Pro 2014 who've skipped to the end of this thread without reading the whole lot, I'll reiterate the process of restoring access to your library runtimes since Flash Player has exited the building.

• Exit Poser (This is very important, as Poser will overwrite your preferences file when it exits, wasting your time)
• In the Finder, open a new Finder window; From the File menu, choose New Finder Window (or press ⌘N)
• With the new finder window selected, from the Go menu, choose Go To Folder... (or press ⇧⌘G)
• In the "Go to the folder:" dialog, type "~/Library" without the double-quotes, and click Go (this is required as a user's Library folder is normally hidden).
• Within the "~/Library" folder, navigate to "Application Support/Poser/10" for Poser 10 or "Application Support/Poser Pro/10" for Poser Pro 2014.
• In that folder, you will find a file called "Poser Prefs". Select the file and from the File menu, choose Duplicate (or press ⌘D). This will create "Poser Prefs copy", a backup.
• Select "Poser Prefs" again, and from the file menu choose Open With..., and then TextEdit (or your preferred text editor) from the dropdown menu.
• When TextEdit opens, make sure the Poser Prefs window is selected, then from the Edit>Find menu, choose Find... (or press ⌘F) and type LIBRARY_IS_AIR into the Search box and press return.
• Double-click on the "0" following the selection and type the digit 1
• Save the Poser Prefs file.
• If you chose to IGNORE the warning to Quit Poser beforehand, Quit it NOW and save the Poser Prefs file again, making sure it still shows "LIBRARY_IS_AIR 1".
• Quit TextEdit (or whichever text editor you used.
• Launch Poser 10 or Poser Pro 2014.
• The Poser Library app should also launch. Its window is unfortunately not dockable within Poser's interface, since it's a separate app, but it has all the functionality, including drag and drop into Poser.

NOTES:

• When Poser 10/PPro2014 launches, you may not see the library palette. If not, from the Window menu, choose Libraries, which will launch the Poser Library app.

• When the Poser Library starts, you may see something similar to this:

• Simply click Continue and the SSL Certificate dialog will go away.

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Just wondering if anyone has come up with any new solutions to the missing library issue. I have Poser Pro 2014 ( ver 10.0.5.28925) and did the edits of the Poser.ini file as suggested. The library did appear after than, but on subsequent restarts of PP2014 it's gone again. The values are still changed in the Poser.ini file but no library appears. I als made sure I set the Library to "embedded" in the Preferences tab.

Now, if I click on the icons in the far upper right ( above the parameter dials) I get this window confirming that PP 2014 can't find the libraries:

Interestingly I can load things into Poser by Opening a Runtime in Windows Explorer and just dragging a model into the viewport.

I admit that I primarily use DAZ Studio now because I prefer the Genesis line of figures, but I still use Poser to load Poser specific content into a Runtime that's linked to DS. It's faster than unzipping content and manually installing into the linked Runtime . On occasion I may even do an export from Poser into a format I can use in Cinema4D.

Any suggestions would be helpful. Right now I don't have room in my budget for a Poser upgrade especially for how I'm using it.

PC specs: Windows 10 ( fully updated) 64 bit Intel Core i7 CPU 3.60 GHz 16 GB RAM NVIDA GeForce GTX 1070 Graphics

For PP2014 you don't need to edit the Poser.ini file ...

OK, I don't use embedded, but these are my settings in Edit/General Preferences and it works for me.

Thanks for the input Kerya. I reset the Poser .ini back to it's defaults and set the preferences as you suggested. No libraries, but at least no big huge Flash logo.

@an0malaus -- Thanks! It can get lonely out here for Mac Poser users. When Adobe killed Flash and, along with it (so I thought) my beloved Poser Pro 2014, I used PPro 11 for a while -- and didn't like it. And I'm not going anywhere near P12, as I depend on lots of Python scripts that will probably not get updated. I tried using D3D's XL9 a little but couldn't deal with it. So today I tried the AIR solution you describe, which works -- once I figured out I had to launch the Poser Library app too.

an0malaus posted at 5:57PM Tue, 23 February 2021 - #4411136

• Launch Poser 10 or Poser Pro 2014.
• The Poser Library app should also launch. Its window is unfortunately not dockable within Poser's interface, since it's a separate app, but it has all the functionality, including drag and drop into Poser.

I arranged the Poser app and Library app windows to my liking (side-by-side) and saved the window configuration with the wonderful Moom, so I have a 1-click way to arrange the windows on every launch. I did find that the Library window will launch along with Poser IF I have the main Poser app window selected (and NOT the Library window) when quitting. I also selected "External" in the Library tab of the Poser Preferences window in the GUI (that only has to be done once).

an0malaus posted at 5:57PM Tue, 23 February 2021 - #4411136

• When the Poser Library starts, you may see something similar to this:

• Simply click Continue and the SSL Certificate dialog will go away.

The SSL Certificate is for the long-gone Content Paradise, which I assume is why it's invalid.

After some researches I found a way to reactivate Flash on a Computer Win 7 and Win 10 so that the Libraries should work again. Since I was using a Mail Program ( IncrediMail ) based on Flash it was necessary having a working flash. Last night there was a Microsoft update that totally disabled flash on the computer. Meanwhile I figured a way to get it back running again. this might be useful for older Poser non Pro versions that do not support external libraries based on Air and mostprobably will enable the Libraries again.

I made quiet some tests and all my Local Flash animations work again like a charm. I will upload the needed files a little later for the ones who are in need of Flash For Poser 10-14

Well after some further tests, like mentioned it is possible having flash working locally on the computer. In the case of Poser, witch is strange it somehow still does not recognize the flash library. The Flash Icon is gone but it still is asking for a Flash Install so will have to figure out what it depends on. Other Applications like IncrediMail work again like a charm.

Here you can download the old Flash versions

for a running fresh Install, Version 11.3.300.268 - UP is locked by Microsoft so you will need to get a prior version.

Bingo. that fixed my poser 10 .. Thank you Thank you Thank you. I had some old content that only opened fr poser10 or later . I'm going to resave them now for poser 12 but i could not get them to load in poser 10 so i could convert them So thank you that fixed my menu's

Azath posted at 1:52PM Tue, 16 March 2021 - #4410019

Open your Poser.ini found in your settings normally in

AppData/Roaming/Poser Pro/ "Version of Poser"

Open the Poser.ini with Preferable Notepad ++ Free software. Activate in search Incremental search ! search for the line

LIBRARY_IS_AIR 0 and replace with LIBRARY_IS_AIR 1

LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 0 and replace to LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 1

the second might vary and makes no difference once you made the changes it will always drop to type 1 ... save your changes and your library will work again.