So it's been a few years since I've used the fitting room, and I'm running into a problem that I am not sure I was able to solve before. I'm sure others have had this same problem, it seems like it would be pretty common... I am trying to fit a pair of baggy jeans to GND Tyler. I posed the jeans to approximate the figure, and then exported as a prop ("fit_prep") which I then brought back in. When I run the simulation the groin area of the jeans draw together, rather than to the figure. The obvious solution to me was to spread the figure's legs, adjust the jeans figure and create a new prop. This is where I run into trouble. I can't zero my Tyler figure as the prop needs to be fitted to him in that pose for the fitting to work properly. If I leave him in that pose my prop can be fitted to him quite nicely. But I can not get the room to produce a proper conforming figure. The new clothing's legs always inherit the 15 degree side-side spread, the only difference being whether the clothing appears in the pose room zeroed or not. So, is it possible to fit to a non zeroed character or not? Is there any way, within Poser, to change the value of a joint (e.g. setting -15=0) without affecting the mesh?

I thought maybe I could do something in the fitting room, but I don't see a solution there either. I can adjust the clothing after conforming to fit, but not being able to zero the dials to the default t-pose still bugs me.

I've never gotten the fitting room to work if the figure you're fitting to isn't zeroed. I don't think it's the problem, but you don't need to convert the figure to a prop before going into the fitting room. I'm not sure which pants you're using. I tested with baggy jeans from James and didn't have bunching. I got the best results when I didn't use the auto group option. And also I zeroed out Tyler's morph so the geometry was the generic Ryan shape. I find I usually get better results when there are no morphs active either.

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It's easy to use the fitting room to a non-zeroed figure as an interim step. But the final rigging has to be to the zeroed figure, unless you want to have to pose the resulting cr2 every time to match. You simply have to leave a thigh gap, and I recommend doing all the adjusting with the morph brush. Maybe you can reduce the thigh of the garment just enough along the X axis, and if necessary morph brush the inner thigh back out after rigging the garment. I've done that. I almost never run the fit sim in the fitting room. Also, it is best to rig to the base version of the figure and then copy the character morph from your figure.

Making the clothing item a prop was my idea, and oddly enough might be the solution to my problem also. I am already able to get the prop fitted. So the next step I believe would be to make a new prop from the fitted item and then fit that to the zeroed figure using as few fitting iterations as it will allow.

RobZhena posted at 5:13PM Sun, 21 March 2021 - #4415325

It's easy to use the fitting room to a non-zeroed figure as an interim step. But the final rigging has to be to the zeroed figure, unless you want to have to pose the resulting cr2 every time to match. You simply have to leave a thigh gap, and I recommend doing all the adjusting with the morph brush. Maybe you can reduce the thigh of the garment just enough along the X axis, and if necessary morph brush the inner thigh back out after rigging the garment. I've done that. I almost never run the fit sim in the fitting room. Also, it is best to rig to the base version of the figure and then copy the character morph from your figure.

It boggles my mind that whoever developed the fitting room didn't anticipate this. Or if they did, why they didn't spend another half hour providing a proper work around.

The thigh gap afflicted Wardrobe Wizard, too. It's manageable.