Forum: Poser 12


Subject: Still no updates yet, but a new splash screen appeared?

Y-Phil opened this issue on Jul 19, 2021 ยท 95 posts


Y-Phil posted Mon, 19 July 2021 at 3:19 PM

Surprise, surprise...

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I thought it was my computer acting up.


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hborre posted Mon, 19 July 2021 at 4:49 PM

Yeah, caught me by surprise.


Miss B posted Mon, 19 July 2021 at 5:42 PM

I started cursing! I'm not a fan of splash screens, and in a number of software apps I use, I can turn them off. Boy do I wish Poser had that option. ~hmmmmmph~

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mdbruffy posted Mon, 19 July 2021 at 5:45 PM

Miss B, I'm with you. Just brought Poser up for the first time today and there she was. I am NOT a fan of anime anyway and I don't appreciate having it shoved in my face. Anyone, is there any way of switching this idiocy off and going back to the original 'about screen'?



Letterworks posted Mon, 19 July 2021 at 6:46 PM

You know I wonder if there would be any complaints if that was a picture of Aiko (outdated as she is) instead of a stylized LeFemme Morph. Sheesh!


randym77 posted Mon, 19 July 2021 at 7:51 PM

Honestly, I was surprised the old splash screen featured V4, instead of La Femme. It's about time.


Rhia474 posted Mon, 19 July 2021 at 8:03 PM

It was time to have a splash screen for Poser 12 featuring its own flagship figure. It was a bit awkward. Now if it could have BOTH LF and LH...


Miss B posted Mon, 19 July 2021 at 8:10 PM

Oh I have no complaints about it being LF, I'm just not ready for an anime figure that's "shoved in my face". Maybe if they had used a more considerate image that didn't blind you when you saw it, I might not have had a complaint. Maybe a different color scheme for the splash screen would work better.

Hmmmm, an image with both LF and LH . . . hmmmm. Now THAT wouldn't be bad at all. 🙂

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RazBurried posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 5:05 AM

Wow, that scared me. I tough that my computer got hacked, relaunched it 2 or 3 times and it came back the same. Rushed to this forum and saw this post by Y-Phil. They should of warn us of that, I can now put my Nitro away.


Y-Phil posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 6:39 AM

RazBurried posted at 6:38AM Tue, 20 July 2021 - #4423548

Wow, that scared me. I tough that my computer got hacked, relaunched it 2 or 3 times and it came back the same. Rushed to this forum and saw this post by Y-Phil. They should of warn us of that, I can now put my Nitro away.

Lol...

I launched 2-3 times Poser 12, just to be sure that I had not installed a program that I did not wanted... ?

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Rhia474 posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 7:34 AM

I think the worst part of it was that I didn't even see the 'Poser 12' title on that screen. It just says 'Anime Girl'. The heck, I thought first...


Y-Phil posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 7:56 AM

Rhia474 posted at 7:55AM Tue, 20 July 2021 - #4423554

I think the worst part of it was that I didn't even see the 'Poser 12' title on that screen. It just says 'Anime Girl'. The heck, I thought first...

Something like... "Don't worry: you've jus started Daz Studio v12.0" ?

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!Firefly! posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 10:04 AM

Sure do not like the idea that they start to access Installed poser on a machine and change stuff without letting you decide weather you want an update or not ! This sounds like the free Android apps that places adds on your Phone and you end up with a big load of garbage. Another good reason avoiding Programs that need to be connected online !

This splash screen is sure forced Publicity on your computer for a new product release , not funny at all ! wonder what is coming next ending up with store adds on poser start up ?


Miss B posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 10:27 AM

Rhia474 posted at 10:25AM Tue, 20 July 2021 - #4423554

I think the worst part of it was that I didn't even see the 'Poser 12' title on that screen. It just says 'Anime Girl'. The heck, I thought first...

Not only that . . . they left the text about your version and license in the bottom left corner in white, and you can't read it. That was for the previous dark/black background. Actually, with that Anime render they used, it's too busy to even be able to see it if they had changed the text to black. ~shakes head~

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Rhia474 posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 11:09 AM

To be clear, in reaction to some renarks above: I don't object to the promotion. In fact, Poser needs to promote it's content that is older than a figure that came out over 10 years ago. But in my opinion, it looks crowded, there is no product info on it, and while the render is lovely, it is missing how a program starter screen should look like. You know, to say the program's name, not the asset's.


primorge posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 11:20 AM

It's advertising fluff that looks tacky on a serious software startup screen. If anything it isn't indicative of a "Poser Pulse Growing" but rather a "Poser is incredibly insular software that's attached to a store with trending products"... Figure if somebody loads Poser 12 five years from now what would they care about some legacy product for La Femme? Or perhaps the splash screen is now becoming a rotating advertisement space? Or maybe just a new advert for each update? Who knows? Weird.

It's not the imagery itself that's jarring, although I think the color palette choice should have been more subdued to match or complement the actual interface mood, pretty sure Poser 12 doesn't have a watercolour interface option... yet lol, it's the text. Just seems strange.

Growing pains I guess.


hborre posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 11:25 AM

I wonder if we will be seeing regularly changing splash screens as a way to advertise content. I have no problems but there will be others who feel otherwise as an invasion of privacy.


primorge posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 11:37 AM

Since Poser really wants us to buy this Anime Girl Product, here's my impressions of the product strictly from looking at the page and the advertisements. I plan on purchasing it btw, but not because it looks "Anime". The morphs themselves don't scream anime to me, in fact they look like La Femme morphs with a bit more of a toony bias. La Femme is easier to make look toony than realistic. Her dials support this. In particular the pro facial fearure scaling dials. Her resolution out of the box supports this. Her facial structure is toony by default. Her jawline, ears, etc are difficult to morph away from that toon look. It seems strange that these are HD morphs since HD morphs are really the only way to move more towards realism with the figure. I'm not seeing a real Anime feeling from the imagery other than the shaders. I'm wondering if the creators have taken a serious look at the work of say Range Murata, Shunya Yamashita, or Satoshi Konn... its seems to be the range of stylization that they were aiming for but not quite getting. I'm just seeing a toonier version of La Femme.

Just my opinions in the face of the barrage.


primorge posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 11:47 AM

There's the distinct feeling that this is simply jumping on a bandwagon of trending popularity, especially in light of the current VTuber popularity. The first thing I think is "are these artists really Anime Fans or are they just aping the style?" because I'm not seeing Anime here.


primorge posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 11:59 AM

One last thing and then I'll shut up. Nerd, Blackhearted, and Ilona get an A+ for trying something different with this product and appealing to a user base that might perhaps be neglected, and more options for the flagship figure are always nice. With this product it's certainly easier, for those who wish to, to customize more towards a range of imagery that might be more appealing to their tastes.

Don't think it needs to on the software splash though. People who enjoy Anime and that style of art will certainly find the product without being force fed it.


ChromeStar posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 1:10 PM

hborre posted at 1:08PM Tue, 20 July 2021 - #4423568

I wonder if we will be seeing regularly changing splash screens as a way to advertise content. I have no problems but there will be others who feel otherwise as an invasion of privacy.

Rotating splash screens could be fun. Otherwise you get tired of seeing the same image. That said, the splash screen should more prominently identify the program that is opening. And I can't say this particular image is very compelling. It feels more like an advertisement for particular content than something that shows off what Poser can do.


!Firefly! posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 5:57 PM

Seriously !!?? all this is not professional, more like a "kindergarden" ! feeling ashamed on where Poser is leading to. Thinking it could not get worse? There are still some professionals using Poser for there work ! And I do not think that they think it is funny getting random ad splash screens !

Many cultures interpret Anime manga in different way's some could even see it as Podophilic advertisement it sort of also attracts these if we are looking at it in a serious way! You could of named it "Comic girl" sounds more like a action hero to me, but well if this community rather wants to step into manga hentai then go ahead. This whole stuff is really disgusting me but that's me !


Rhia474 posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 6:01 PM

WHOA, now. Anime is NOT equal to what you are equating it to, and if you do, you know squat about it. Sorry to use harsh language, but your rant is unwarranted, overblown and unnecessary.

Criticism is fine because that's what many of us did above but the above is just way uncalled for.


primorge posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 6:01 PM

You're really the alarmist sort !Firefly!... hentai is definitely not what I think of when thinking of Anime. It's just a facet. Just like pornographic video from any culture is simply a subculture of the medium of video.


primorge posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 6:04 PM

And no unnecessary tentacle bashing please lol.


Rhia474 posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 6:07 PM

Heh. BUT, they added the Poser 12 logo and title now...yay!


!Firefly! posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 6:15 PM

Remember the scandal " diapers for V4 " man that sure was a story if I recall it first was released here then pulled from the store and ended up for a while at RDNA. Not sure, it is already a while ago that it happen but this is getting even worse. ( so why did this release end up as a scandal it was just a pair of Diapers ) See every individual take things in a different way some could take this act as a "affront" not just because it is an anime but already by changing the splash screen by force!

I think bondware thought to be a little dramatic so why not be also a little dramatic about this dramatic act :)


primorge posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 6:23 PM

Lol. Was that an Oskarsson product? I think I vaguely remember that. Well better to be intentionally funny I guess. There's plenty of unintentionally funny stuff already. Ducking out before the DISAPPROVE level gets any worse.


!Firefly! posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 6:49 PM

had to make a research it was released by "Aoaio and nirvy in 2011"

now that would of been a nasty splash screen LOL

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So the scandal release was actually " BabyBabe V4/A4/G4/Elite "

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!Firefly! posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 6:57 PM

Ohh forgot to mention Ironman13 was also part of the Diaper team !! :)

Like the first Promo that one sure would be a bad ass Splash screen fits perfectly to the actual situation :)


Miss B posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 7:03 PM

Rhia474 posted at 6:59PM Tue, 20 July 2021 - #4423597

Heh. BUT, they added the Poser 12 logo and title now...yay!

I just reopened P12, and yes the Poser 12 logo helps, but the text at the bottom left about version and license still can't be read easily in white.

I still don't like it because I feel like they're shoving her in my face. That would be a nice gallery render, but for a software's splash screen? No way!! If they want to use Anime, they should get a proper render done of her just once in a more sedate pose.

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Rhia474 posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 7:08 PM

Miss B, I agree on that about a render that doesn't, again, look like one done in 2015 or earlier. If this is a software that supposedly can do renders with PBR, why the h*ck are we not seeing those capabilities in ads?


Rhia474 posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 7:15 PM

I mean, srsly, if we want to showcase anything, this is a Poser 7 figure, SimonG2, ran through EZSkin and rendered with Superfly, no postwork. Old figure, newest software iteration. Boom.

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primorge posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 7:46 PM

I don't know anything about coding whatsoever but seeing as Poser is online wouldn't it be interesting if a monthly splash screen were made possible wherein various Poser artists of different disciplines and styles could have their work featured there. Sort of like the gallery only as a part of Poser. Not certain if that's a far fetched idea but it just popped into my head and seemed like an interesting prospect.


JimTS posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 8:41 PM

.....what? wasn't that supposed to be the patch so that tesla cards work still/again?

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Miss B posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 8:58 PM

Rhia474 posted at 8:56PM Tue, 20 July 2021 - #4423609

I mean, srsly, if we want to showcase anything, this is a Poser 7 figure, SimonG2, ran through EZSkin and rendered with Superfly, no postwork. Old figure, newest software iteration. Boom.

That's SimonG2? Damn he looks good. I especially like the lighting. Nicely done Rhia!

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Miss B posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 8:59 PM

Rhia474 posted at 8:58PM Tue, 20 July 2021 - #4423608

Miss B, I agree on that about a render that doesn't, again, look like one done in 2015 or earlier. If this is a software that supposedly can do renders with PBR, why the h*ck are we not seeing those capabilities in ads?

A very good question. You would think they'd take advantage of an option like that.

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JimTS posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 9:09 PM

Rhia474 posted at 9:08PM Tue, 20 July 2021 - #4423609

I mean, srsly, if we want to showcase anything, this is a Poser 7 figure, SimonG2, ran through EZSkin and rendered with Superfly, no postwork. Old figure, newest software iteration. Boom.

simong2p12.jpg What was the RT?

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So is that TTFN or TANSTAAFL?


Rhia474 posted Tue, 20 July 2021 at 9:29 PM

About 32 minutes.

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Y-Phil posted Wed, 21 July 2021 at 1:27 AM

primorge posted at 1:25AM Wed, 21 July 2021 - #4423614

I don't know anything about coding whatsoever but seeing as Poser is online wouldn't it be interesting if a monthly splash screen were made possible wherein various Poser artists of different disciplines and styles could have their work featured there. Sort of like the gallery only as a part of Poser. Not certain if that's a far fetched idea but it just popped into my head and seemed like an interesting prospect.

That was my first thought when I saw the new splash screen: they have previously inserted a few lines of code that were checking an online URL, waiting for something to appear, and displaying the default one in case there were nothing.

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Y-Phil posted Wed, 21 July 2021 at 1:45 AM

Splash screen updated: Poser's name is present, now ?

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ShaneNewville posted Wed, 21 July 2021 at 4:06 PM

SOLUTION - for now

I'm absolutely not a fan of this move at all. I did find you can prevent it from happening on future launches though if you go to the image file and make it Read Only (Windows). Not sure how to do this on Mac. Lock the image? But it prevents it from being used and will restore the original splash (for now). I could not solve it by deleting the image or changing the image w the same file name, because it re-downloads it at every launch, but read only seems to be the band-aid workaround for now. Every time you update though you will need to do this again.

On Windows the image is located at C:-Users-___yer yooozer name here___-AppData-Local-Temp-Poser-12- (using dashes because slashes get hidden on forum posts) It will have some crazy file name like "GTdiykRsWM6csaLYx1x68ILPDDXvYMJNZZZNVFpT.jpg" Right click it, go to Properties, then click 'Read Only' to enabled it. Apply, and hit OK. Future launches after doing so should load up the old splash.asfsdaf.jpg

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!Firefly! posted Wed, 21 July 2021 at 4:35 PM

guess it will be the best solution for the future to just put the whole Poser Installation folder sub folder and files as write protected ( Read Only ) this way it can't be manipulated through a external port. A simple add blocker and for the ones who placed there own startup splash they can keep it :) and other stuff !


primorge posted Wed, 21 July 2021 at 4:58 PM

What's the exact process for a custom splash screen? Is simply replacing the referenced one with an image titled the same and same dimensions/resolution sufficient? Poser 11


hborre posted Wed, 21 July 2021 at 5:56 PM

Someone actually succeeded in replacing the splash screen in an earlier Poser version but the process is lost somewhere in the archives. I don't know if the procedure can be applied to P11 and 12.


primorge posted Wed, 21 July 2021 at 6:10 PM

It's ok. The Poser 11 splash is fine. Was just curious. I'm not going to be experimenting with Poser's main application files. Digging around in library files is relatively safe, I'd hate to mess up my Poser installation though.

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Richard60 posted Wed, 21 July 2021 at 8:14 PM Online Now!

I haven't played with the Poser 12 Splash Screen, however earlier versions had multiple screens in a PSD file and would display the proper one based on which version of Poser you had, i.e. Standard/Pro/Game Dev.

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RazBurried posted Thu, 22 July 2021 at 6:46 AM

RazBurried posted at 6:44AM Thu, 22 July 2021 - #4423548

Wow, that scared me. I tough that my computer got hacked, relaunched it 2 or 3 times and it came back the same. Rushed to this forum and saw this post by Y-Phil. They should of warn us of that, I can now put my Nitro away.

I blocked Poser 12 to access online, and now I'm back with the old splash screen.


randym77 posted Thu, 22 July 2021 at 7:26 AM

RazBurried posted at 7:16AM Thu, 22 July 2021 - #4423717

RazBurried posted at 6:44AM Thu, 22 July 2021 - #4423548

Wow, that scared me. I tough that my computer got hacked, relaunched it 2 or 3 times and it came back the same. Rushed to this forum and saw this post by Y-Phil. They should of warn us of that, I can now put my Nitro away.

I blocked Poser 12 to access online, and now I'm back with the old splash screen.

But won't Poser stop working if it can't phone home? You can't keep it blocked forever.

Interesting that it goes back to the old splash screen, though. Sounds like what Primorge and Y-Phil said is correct: the splash screen is going to be an ever-changing ad, with the old splash screen as the default if there isn't one.


Miss B posted Thu, 22 July 2021 at 11:11 AM

I wish I could turn off the Splash Screen. I have other software that allows me to do that. I don't need the Splash Screen to tell me what software I'm loading, so why isn't there an option to turn it off altogether? The end user should have the option to see it if they want to, OR not see it if they don't want to.

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primorge posted Thu, 22 July 2021 at 11:52 AM

I like Blender's approach, an informative overlay on the viewport with file open and recent file open options etc that's banished with a workspace click... I'm certain there's an option to turn off altogether, just never seemed of importance to look for that. I don't mind a splash per se, if it's serving some user purpose. I think a Poser gallery browser via the splash is a nice idea, as I stated earlier. Or something similar. I'd much rather see that than store advertisements. Of course that would mean a lingering splash, but if it went the Blender route not really an issue. One particular splash that's pretty annoying is the Photoshop loading splash, but it's been like that for as long as I can remember.

That's alotta splashes :-D


primorge posted Thu, 22 July 2021 at 5:26 PM

I had my computer off for months, the one with Poser installed on it. And it fired right up when I started Poser again. It's Poser 11 though. This monthly check thing is vague. It's a bit concerning that files were changed without permission. The people that make the sketchbooks I buy don't stop by my house and look through my sketchbook or change pages ;)


randym77 posted Thu, 22 July 2021 at 6:03 PM

I don't mind the Photoshop splash screens. They're generally attractive, and they do serve a purpose. It lets you know what version is starting, if you have more than one installed. Mermaid girl...oops, it's the old version. I wanted the cotton candy flamingos.


primorge posted Thu, 22 July 2021 at 6:31 PM

Yes. The cotton candy flamingos lol. That's my version. I rent :)


primorge posted Thu, 22 July 2021 at 6:36 PM

I actually like the subscription model. Adobe is a bit less forgiving than Autodesk if you cancel and subscribe though. It's a 20 dollar penalty fee if you cancel before a year and then resubscribe. Autodesk is at will, no penalty.


randym77 posted Fri, 23 July 2021 at 5:28 AM

I don't mind the subscription model for Photoshop. (I hate it for Vue.) $10/month for Photoshop and Lightroom is worth it, IMO.

But I always keep the previous version installed, because sometimes their updates break stuff or aren't stable. I like to have the old version to go back to if necessary.


ShaneNewville posted Thu, 05 August 2021 at 5:14 PM

This convo is drifting off-topic, but imho Adobe & Autodesk subscriptions are both curse words.

BUT When companies offer a subscription as an additional option for people who can't afford the full priced license, that's a whole new story. $400 is a lot of students or hobbyist, or someone looking to get started on a whim.

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hornet3d posted Fri, 06 August 2021 at 6:42 AM

I was more than a little thrown when the new splash screen arrived, like many others my first reaction was a sinking feeling as I suspected a problem with my computer. Other than that I could live with it but it reverted back to the old screen when I ran the update anyway.

 

 

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Miss B posted Fri, 06 August 2021 at 10:41 AM

hornet3d posted at 10:39AM Fri, 06 August 2021 - #4424692

I was more than a little thrown when the new splash screen arrived, like many others my first reaction was a sinking feeling as I suspected a problem with my computer. Other than that I could live with it but it reverted back to the old screen when I ran the update anyway.

Actually, it reverted back to the old Splash Screen on my Poser 12, and I haven't installed the update yet, so I think they did it before the new version was made public.

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Y-Phil posted Fri, 06 August 2021 at 10:46 AM

Miss B posted at 10:45AM Fri, 06 August 2021 - #4424700

hornet3d posted at 10:39AM Fri, 06 August 2021 - #4424692

I was more than a little thrown when the new splash screen arrived, like many others my first reaction was a sinking feeling as I suspected a problem with my computer. Other than that I could live with it but it reverted back to the old screen when I ran the update anyway.

Actually, it reverted back to the old Splash Screen on my Poser 12, and I haven't installed the update yet, so I think they did it before the new version was made public.

Indeed:

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RedPhantom posted Fri, 06 August 2021 at 12:08 PM Online Now! Site Admin

I like the tip in the corner. I knew that one, but probably not everyone does. I hope it changes once in a while. Of course, that means I'll actually have to pay attention to it once in a while.


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Miss B posted Fri, 06 August 2021 at 1:44 PM

Yes, I've already seen at least one other "tip", though I couldn't say how often it changes.

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Y-Phil posted Wed, 11 August 2021 at 4:36 AM

Ok, today, but just once, I've seen a sports car in the splash screen, while Poser was loading, and it wasn't the first launch of today... ???

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Y-Phil posted Wed, 11 August 2021 at 8:41 AM

Tadaammmm ?

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Miss B posted Wed, 11 August 2021 at 9:58 AM

Hmmm, that I think I could live with. 😉

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Y-Phil posted Wed, 11 August 2021 at 10:38 AM

Miss B posted at 10:38AM Wed, 11 August 2021 - #4425028

Hmmm, that I think I could live with. 😉

He he ?

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EVargas posted Wed, 11 August 2021 at 10:45 AM

I actually like the idea of changing the splash without warning, it's just a good surprise, no harm, always good to break the habit. Also I was wondering if the devs may be thinking about some kind of screen saver to showcase artist galleries, like ZBrush does, that's cool too!


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Miss B posted Wed, 11 August 2021 at 3:26 PM

Y-Phil posted at 3:25PM Wed, 11 August 2021 - #4425033

Miss B posted at 10:38AM Wed, 11 August 2021 - #4425028

Hmmm, that I think I could live with. 😉

He he ?

That's one of the shaders in Ghostship2's new Poser 12 Materials pack, which I just grabbed. 😉

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Y-Phil posted Wed, 11 August 2021 at 4:59 PM

Miss B posted at 4:58PM Wed, 11 August 2021 - #4425051

Y-Phil posted at 3:25PM Wed, 11 August 2021 - #4425033

Miss B posted at 10:38AM Wed, 11 August 2021 - #4425028

Hmmm, that I think I could live with. 😉

He he ?

That's one of the shaders in Ghostship2's new Poser 12 Materials pack, which I just grabbed. 😉

Indeed... I've recognized it, too 😄

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Boni posted Thu, 12 August 2021 at 12:24 PM

I've gotten 3 different splash screens (car, original and a lovely woman with short hair, necklace and black velvet dress. No registration text. and alas Poser does not load after the splash screen.

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Y-Phil posted Thu, 12 August 2021 at 12:44 PM

Boni posted at 12:42PM Thu, 12 August 2021 - #4425127

I've gotten 3 different splash screens (car, original and a lovely woman with short hair, necklace and black velvet dress. No registration text. and alas Poser does not load after the splash screen.

A lovely woman? It seems that we've just started with their surprises.... ?

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Boni posted Thu, 12 August 2021 at 1:03 PM

Seems Windows needed to update ... Cue the Jeopardy! Music.

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Rhia474 posted Thu, 12 August 2021 at 1:28 PM

Yep, there was a stealth W10 update last night. Which is always fun when I leave a render to cook overnight.


Y-Phil posted Thu, 12 August 2021 at 1:37 PM

Rhia474 posted at 1:36PM Thu, 12 August 2021 - #4425130

Yep, there was a stealth W10 update last night. Which is always fun when I leave a render to cook overnight.

If I'm not wrong you may now make windows wait for the right hours to be allowed to reboot: outside "work" hours...

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Rhia474 posted Thu, 12 August 2021 at 1:59 PM

I would just need to remember to set it. You attribute me way more brains than what I got after the actual workday and house chores.


Y-Phil posted Thu, 12 August 2021 at 3:45 PM

Rhia474 posted at 3:41PM Thu, 12 August 2021 - #4425136

I would just need to remember to set it. You attribute me way more brains than what I got after the actual workday and house chores.

Even though my installation is in French, I think that you may find what you need with the two options I've pointed in green

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And the last option will let you suspend the updates till a date of your choice:

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Rhia474 posted Thu, 12 August 2021 at 4:04 PM

You are a gentleman, thank you, merci beaucoup.


Y-Phil posted Thu, 12 August 2021 at 5:11 PM

Rhia474 posted at 5:10PM Thu, 12 August 2021 - #4425147

You are a gentleman, thank you, merci beaucoup.

De rien... ?

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Miss B posted Thu, 12 August 2021 at 5:35 PM

Y-Phil posted at 5:30PM Thu, 12 August 2021 - #4425131

If I'm not wrong you may now make windows wait for the right hours to be allowed to reboot: outside "work" hours...

One of the first things I set up when I got this laptop with Windows 10, but I have also ALWAYS set up updates to be "paused" for a certain amount of time. By default it's about 7 days, but I often update that for about 2 weeks. That's an "advanced" feature if I'm not mistaken. That way, if I absolutely have to leave the laptop on overnight, I won't have to worry about Windows updating without my consent.

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hornet3d posted Thu, 12 August 2021 at 9:28 PM

I approach every Windows update with a sense of dread, particularly after I have had a M2 SSD, which was the C drive, die during one update. Not saying it died due to Windows 10 update but a real coincidence. I always use the update and restart option at a point where I have some free times so I can do a sanity check on Poser and my financial program to make sure they both work and try and repair if needed. I would much rather do this than do a update and shutdown only do discover later I have major problems.

 

 

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hornet3d posted Thu, 12 August 2021 at 9:29 PM

Boni posted at 9:28PM Thu, 12 August 2021 - #4425127

I've gotten 3 different splash screens (car, original and a lovely woman with short hair, necklace and black velvet dress. No registration text. and alas Poser does not load after the splash screen.

I have had the same three splash screens but happily Poser has loaded after all of them.

 

 

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Y-Phil posted Fri, 13 August 2021 at 1:36 AM

hornet3d posted at 1:29AM Fri, 13 August 2021 - #4425159

I approach every Windows update with a sense of dread, particularly after I have had a M2 SSD, which was the C drive, die during one update. Not saying it died due to Windows 10 update but a real coincidence. I always use the update and restart option at a point where I have some free times so I can do a sanity check on Poser and my financial program to make sure they both work and try and repair if needed. I would much rather do this than do a update and shutdown only do discover later I have major problems.

I almost ran into this kind of problems: I changed my C drive less than 2 months ago. During the process of moving windows onto a new nvme ssd drive, the program discovered that the old ssd started to have bad blocks. If I'm not wrong, an ssd starting with bad blocks will more rapidly die.

The problem is that I had not respected my own rule: a drive, when used everyday or near everyday, should be changed between 2 and 3 years after the start. And the last had passed over that limit for 3 months.

Why 2 years? the official warranty in my country. It's only business.

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hornet3d posted Fri, 13 August 2021 at 6:37 AM

Y-Phil posted at 6:31AM Fri, 13 August 2021 - #4425178

hornet3d posted at 1:29AM Fri, 13 August 2021 - #4425159

I approach every Windows update with a sense of dread, particularly after I have had a M2 SSD, which was the C drive, die during one update. Not saying it died due to Windows 10 update but a real coincidence. I always use the update and restart option at a point where I have some free times so I can do a sanity check on Poser and my financial program to make sure they both work and try and repair if needed. I would much rather do this than do a update and shutdown only do discover later I have major problems.

I almost ran into this kind of problems: I changed my C drive less than 2 months ago. During the process of moving windows onto a new nvme ssd drive, the program discovered that the old ssd started to have bad blocks. If I'm not wrong, an ssd starting with bad blocks will more rapidly die.

The problem is that I had not respected my own rule: a drive, when used everyday or near everyday, should be changed between 2 and 3 years after the start. And the last had passed over that limit for 3 months.

Why 2 years? the official warranty in my country. It's only business.

I was lucky with my drive as the system had been built for me and I purchased an extended warranty which they honored and replaced the drive. I had not wanted to be without the my computer for the time it took to replace so I ordered a new one. When the replacement drive arrived I cloned it with the new, and now working, C drive. I theory at least I have that option if this new drive fails. I was surprised though as the drive that failed was a Samsung 970EvoPlus and it barely made it to two years.

 

 

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Y-Phil posted Fri, 13 August 2021 at 7:50 AM

hornet3d posted at 7:43AM Fri, 13 August 2021 - #4425194

I was lucky with my drive as the system had been built for me and I purchased an extended warranty which they honored and replaced the drive. I had not wanted to be without the my computer for the time it took to replace so I ordered a new one. When the replacement drive arrived I cloned it with the new, and now working, C drive. I theory at least I have that option if this new drive fails. I was surprised though as the drive that failed was a Samsung 970EvoPlus and it barely made it to two years.

The system I'm using is the only one I've ever bought, (in March, 3 years ago). And, IMO, as a pre-made computer, the components are often of a standard-level of quality, which means that their lifetime is expected on a mean value. That can explain why it barely made it to two years (mine was also a samsung, and I still trust them). But from what I've understood: often, the pro series are expected to be more resistant, and as such more expensive.

Which is why I put more money this time, but in two years plus a few months, it will be replaced ?

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hornet3d posted Fri, 13 August 2021 at 9:37 AM

Y-Phil posted at 9:25AM Fri, 13 August 2021 - #4425199

hornet3d posted at 7:43AM Fri, 13 August 2021 - #4425194

I was lucky with my drive as the system had been built for me and I purchased an extended warranty which they honored and replaced the drive. I had not wanted to be without the my computer for the time it took to replace so I ordered a new one. When the replacement drive arrived I cloned it with the new, and now working, C drive. I theory at least I have that option if this new drive fails. I was surprised though as the drive that failed was a Samsung 970EvoPlus and it barely made it to two years.

The system I'm using is the only one I've ever bought, (in March, 3 years ago). And, IMO, as a pre-made computer, the components are often of a standard-level of quality, which means that their lifetime is expected on a mean value. That can explain why it barely made it to two years (mine was also a samsung, and I still trust them). But from what I've understood: often, the pro series are expected to be more resistant, and as such more expensive.

Which is why I put more money this time, but in two years plus a few months, it will be replaced ?

I have built almost all my systems over the years but they were pretty standard systems with the exception I always built them to be quiet. As I got deeper and deeper into Poser I decided I needed something with a bigger punch but that also meant higher costs. When I started looking at Threadipper CPU which cost about the same price as some of the complete systems I had built I chickened out and looked to have someone else take on the risk. An unexpected lumpsum pension payout gave me the money to be able to do just that. I picked a custom builder here in the UK where you can start with basic system and then change the configuration to suit your needs. They did a good job and I was happy both with the build, less so with the broken promises on timings. If I was to order again I would still use them but I would have do without the extended on site warranty which just turned out to be a very expensive insurance. When the PSU failed, another high cost component that failed, this time after only 14 months. it took over a week to even respond to my claim. In the end I purchased the PSU and fitted it myself and then got a replacement from the manufactures. Of course when Covid hit they refused to visit site any way, that I understand but there was no mention of a refund on the warranty.

 

 

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Y-Phil posted Fri, 13 August 2021 at 9:56 AM

hornet3d posted at 9:54AM Fri, 13 August 2021 - #4425201

In Switzerland, these processors are almost 4200 Swiss Francs... Woah Poser doesn't need all that: my old i78700K never goes up to 100%, except while Poser is loading, which lasts only a few seconds. I'd rather put this huge amount into 2 rtx3090.... 😄

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hborre posted Fri, 13 August 2021 at 12:38 PM

You will be given a small period of time before P12 starts calling home. And if you forget to reestablish your connection, P12 won't reopen again until you contact admin.


Afrodite-Ohki posted Sat, 14 August 2021 at 1:20 PM

Ooooh loving this one - mom, can we keep it? xD

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Miss B posted Sat, 14 August 2021 at 3:15 PM

Hmmm, I haven't seen that one . . . yet.

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hornet3d posted Sun, 15 August 2021 at 5:32 AM

Miss B posted at 5:30AM Sun, 15 August 2021 - #4425336

Hmmm, I haven't seen that one . . . yet.

I have only seen it once, it was initially replaced with the splash screen with the red sports car and then that was replaced with the oriental girl which was default for quite a while.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.


ghostship2 posted Sun, 15 August 2021 at 10:03 AM

yeah, I made the red sports car image. They asked me to do that. I wasn't really expecting it to show up in the splash screen but I should have. lol

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hornet3d posted Sun, 15 August 2021 at 10:22 AM

ghostship2 posted at 10:21AM Sun, 15 August 2021 - #4425369

yeah, I made the red sports car image. They asked me to do that. I wasn't really expecting it to show up in the splash screen but I should have. lol

I guessed it was you and materials from your Poser 12 collection, it was my favorite Poser splash screen yet.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.


Y-Phil posted Sun, 15 August 2021 at 11:35 AM

ghostship2 posted at 11:35AM Sun, 15 August 2021 - #4425369

yeah, I made the red sports car image. They asked me to do that. I wasn't really expecting it to show up in the splash screen but I should have. lol

Wow!

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