Got myself a newer Box, stronger, bigger and faster. Problem is two fold.

1) When I copied my Daztime smart content did not come along. 

2) I am not finding the content search so daz can recognize what I copied from the old computer. 

Tried to load the newest Daz but my lack of a consistent internet connection  caused me to du.p that and install 4.15 like on the old box.

I use a combination manual and offline loading.

Thanks

Did you copy the old database axross? if not had you exported userdata, then reimported metadata on the new system?

Copied to external drive then to new drive.  Guess smart data somewhere else.

Upgraded to win 10 from 7. My Documents and owner folders obsolete. Put files in Documents.

Not thrilled with loading Daz Central but would give a cleaner install if I can pick and choose what to load.

Getting Daz to search for content would be nice or getting the correct Win 10 path would be very helpful.

Smart content is driven by the database, though nothing will show if the files themselves cannot be seen.

You don't need to search, just set the content directories to point to the correct folders (the one that holds the Runtime and Data folders - e.g. My Daz 3D Library if using the defaults) by right-click on Daz Studio Formatas and/or Poser Formats in the Content Library pane.

Took a look at the files I have transfered.

Currently -Documents/Daz3d studio

My Daz connect library 

My library

Render library

All seem present. My Daz is large and does not visible as your previous statement.

Think I have found on the tabs where to tell Daz to look for old directory.  Will try tonight hopefully.

The database is in %appdata%/daz 3d/cms/contentcluster/ by default (the %appdata% bit expands to the location of your App/Data/Roaming/ folder).

First off Thank You Richard ! I have made some progress by wrapped my head around some aspects that may need to change.

I have reluctantly loaded Daz Central and reloaded some stuff. 

I have recovered some of my Content Library and some of it works and some not. Would like to get that honed in if possible.

Still have original daztime on other drive that could be moved again if there is a better way to do it.

How about the database?

For Daz products, and soem products from other stores, you can reimport metadata - that will also catch any of your own metadata (recategorisations and your saved files) from before the last time you did an export userdata (if you did). The database on the old system will have everything that was, but it isn't possible to directly merge that with the dataabse on the current system so you risk losing metadata assigments either way with that.

Guess I learned more over the weekend.  I reloaded some stuff and added a couple new things and still nothing works completely. 

I for a long time have thought something in this daztime has caused my characters to be thicker and voluptuous than portrayed.  Know I bought characters at Rendo and Hub that intruded in part or whole on base G8. Dug these out but suspected there was more. 

So Richard where should I build my next Content Library?  

If I leave the old library will this conflict with the old?

The location of your content directories is not significant, as long as you can access them. Yes, if one with "bad" files is still connected they will be read, unless the "good" version (if there is one) is earlier in the list of content directories. It does sound as if you have one or more morphs isntalled with a non-zero default - if you load the plain base figure and go to Edit>Preferences>Zereo>Zero Figure Shape does it change?

We certainly shall try tonight!

Not that I see .

OK, so that doesn't sound like a rogue morph. Is therea  mesh offset proerpty for the figure in the Parameters pane, and if there is is it zero?

I will check tonight.

Unable to find mesh offset property. 

OK, I don't know what could be causing this issue then. Sorry not to be more helpful.

Your always helpful. You explained a way to look for this problem and that's helpful. Sure beats the heck out of watching models load or going through all ones morphs looking for problems.

You just hang tight and be observant because after loading Daz Connect my detailed mind is adding questions to a growing list.

Guess I will consult the higher authority first.  If I eliminate the non smart stuff content will it effect the smart stuff from daz?

I'm not sure what you mean - Smart Content is built from regular files with suitable metadata in the database.

Thanks. That's what I needed to know.

Well that was an Epic failure. While my Content Library is showing my reloaded stuff everything in smart content is now hosed.

Still have pretty thumbnails but nothing in smart content is working. Daz attempted a 5000+ meta update that failed.

I think I'm grounded due to my limited net connection but the Bull in the china shop will inquire.

Pretty sure something important to smart content was in Content Library .

What is Metadata besides being a quality of smart stuff.

What is the difference between Daz connect and daz central. My guess is they are independent of each other and connect is internal to daz and centtral is an external loader.

The metadata is a description of the content, rather than the actual content itself - it says which categories and products the files are part of, what type of file they are, what they are compatible with. What is happening with the Smart Content pane, and are other containers that depend on the database OK - the presets tabsd in various property panes, Categories and products in the Content Library pane, and the type tags (Actor, materials etc. at top-right of a file's thumbnail) in the Daz Studio Formats tree?

Daz Central is a simplified interface for Install Manager, Daz Connect is the system for installing through Daz Studio itself (Install pane or Smart Content pane or Products in the Content Library pane)

Had a feeling meta was thumbnails and organization.  Currently meta update is 27% of some 5000 items.

What I did was delete the old content library and loaded a batch of files in its place. Smart files largely were wiped out. I am hoping the data is still there but unconnected.

Increased my data. Bound and determined to not blow my holiday Daz time.

Currently reinstalling content.

Content Library is showing and seems to load objects and such but morphs and such not found on loaded character . Database issues.

Daz Connect seems to be the better of the two choices.

Not found and generating error messages or not found in that the sliders are not there?

Not that I want to send you on another sidetrack but the original Install Manager iss till avaiualble, it isn't a choice between Connect and Central only - there should be links on any product Library page for an item than can be installed through DIM.

Not found in the sliders. They don't show up UNLESS  I load a figure then sliders are there and work. Loading a figure and trying to swap a head does not find the head morph. Loading 3 characters 2 with working morphs the 3rd will not see the morphs on the other 2. Hope ya understood.

Yes I understood once explained. Both could be used except for drai on bandwidth.  Considered that. I seem to have more complications with central.  Connect combined with meta seems to offer a more organized form I can tolerate.

The odd thing to me anyway is when I go to reload smart stuff that was loaded before it still thinks it is loaded. (Meta update? )  When I  Uninstall it stays colored.  Won't let I install but it goes to pending.  Not a serious issue just thinking odd.

Clothing morphs seem to be missing 

Clothing morphs that do show do not seem to work.

If you uninstall stuff that still shows as installed by another emthod then DS will still show it as installed (and will load it if the files are really there).

The only way I can possibly think of for morphs to load onto previously saved items but not new would be if the morphs were in a nested content directory on saving (e.g. My Daz 3D Library/Content/Data/etc. with both Content and My Daz 3D Library set as content directories) - the saved scene might then be including the inner folder in the paths (/content/data/etc.) and if the files were still there they would load, but a newly loaded item would not check the Content sub-directory and so would not see or load the morphs. But that is a fairly arcane set of circumstances.

I have not tried loading previous loaded stuff yet.  Old stuff still on other drive and when this problem developed I knew that was gone. Happened before with Daz 3 some years back.  I have a dozen or so characters that are new made on this system. Loading them has not been attempted yet due to lack of assets loaded. 

What I was saying before is if I load a character from content it loads true. It except morphs and modifications that are loaded FROM smart but loading something from content library does not see the morph even if another loaded character has the desired morph. Load Bob and Tom both load properly but I can not swap heads etc.

My problem was Microsoft changed file structure  between win 7 and 10. Otherwise I was planning to drop content file in the same file structure and hope it worked. I was not that savvy in Daz 3 days. Guess savy still has holes.

So it's OK now?

No morphs still not recognized. Seems only when they come preloaded on objects.

OK, I am still not following the difference. Could you give a specific example of soemthing that works and something that doesn't, using the same base figure?

This applies to Content Library only. Smart seems fine. Products show up in content library as the should. Hierarchy appears ok.

2 g8s-As follows

One loaded as a character, say Betty. loads fine morphs intact. Morphs register in parameters fine. Adding additional morphs contained in content library are not to be found. This includes optional morphs such as nipples included with Betty. Non functional.

Second loaded "base character" but when you try to load Betty morphs the Betty morphs do not show up in parameters at all. Nothing that should show does not register in parameters.

Clothing and hair - The object in question loads fine and with mats. Mats seem to load correctly.  Morph that should be in parameters are no present and pose morphs that are in content library are non functional. Wind hair poses , unbutton shirt do not work or fail to show in parameters.

I have not noticed any irregularity with character pose sets.

Recent discovery is gen mats are not working properly. I use a lot of Krash products and they contain a special gen uv. Surface does not register its existence. Know it loaded.

I have tried loading a couple saved characters compiled after loading Daz on this computer but before dumping my previous Daztime and while not perfect seem to load better than expected. Likely small items I have not reloaded yet missing but shape and most mats present.

So is Betty a custom character of your own creation, with the morph not saved as a morph asset? If so it will be embedded in the preset file and will load if that is sued to create a new figure but not if it is used to modify an existing figure. That does sound as if the morphs are not correctly installed but the base figure is. Are textures loading?

No I am being generic and not bring vendor specific except where I have too. Betty is made up and can be any and all found in content lib from Rendo, Hub or Otic. All Apply to G8M as well.

Textures loading on characters does not seem a problem . Seem to load with characters or adding to a base one as they should. Changing hair mats has not been problematic. 

Other than the afore mentioned UV issue the big problem is morphs, hair and clothing morphs originating in content library. Exception is loading a vendor originating character (1st)  from Character category and that will load with shape and mat.  A blank base character (2) will not see the same morph just loaded with 1st character. I know the morphs are there since it loaded on 1st.

Please load a base figure (try one with fewer morphs, to reduce the data generated) and then attach the log file to a post -

%appdata%/daz 3d/studio4/

if you are on Windows, or Help>Troubleshooting>View Log File and save it out to a location of your choice.

Not see a place to add files or attachments. do you want me to past it here?

g82022-09-09 07:10:47.771 *** Scene Cleared ***

2022-09-09 07:10:59.511 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6843): Could not find target property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLRage_HD.dsf#eCTRLRage?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Teen%20Josie%207/eJCMJosie7Rage.dsf

2022-09-09 07:10:59.572 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6843): Could not find target property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLWink_HD.dsf#eCTRLWink?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Mei%20Lin%208/eJCMMeiLin8_Wink_HDLv2.dsf

2022-09-09 07:10:59.629 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6843): Could not find target property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLScream_HD.dsf#eCTRLScream?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Mei%20Lin%208/eJCMMeiLin8_Scream_HDLv2.dsf

2022-09-09 07:10:59.643 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6843): Could not find target property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLRage_HD.dsf#eCTRLRage?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Mei%20Lin%208/eJCMMeiLin8_Rage_HDLv2.dsf

2022-09-09 07:10:59.662 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6843): Could not find target property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLPain_HD.dsf#eCTRLPain?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Mei%20Lin%208/eJCMMeiLin8_Pain_HDLv2.dsf

2022-09-09 07:10:59.717 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6843): Could not find target property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLHappy_HD.dsf#eCTRLHappy?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Mei%20Lin%208/eJCMMeiLin8_Happy_HDLv2.dsf

2022-09-09 07:10:59.736 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6843): Could not find target property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLFear_HD.dsf#eCTRLFear?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Mei%20Lin%208/eJCMMeiLin8_Fear_HDLv2.dsf

2022-09-09 07:10:59.753 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6843): Could not find target property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLExcitement_HD.dsf#eCTRLExcitement?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Mei%20Lin%208/eJCMMeiLin8_Excitement_HDLv2.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:00.710 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6777): Could not find output property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Aiko%208/FHMAiko8.dsf#FHMAiko8?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Aurora/FHMAurora.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:00.757 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6777): Could not find output property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Aiko%208/FBMAiko8.dsf#FBMAiko8?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Aurora/FBMAurora.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:00.875 Begin Loading Character Addons...

2022-09-09 07:11:01.075 File loaded in 0 min 0.1 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.076 Loaded file: genesis 8 female eyelashes.duf

2022-09-09 07:11:01.081 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.083 Loaded file: PHMEyelashesLengthUpper.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:01.084 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.084 Loaded file: PHMEyelashesLengthLower.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:01.085 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.085 Loaded file: PHMEyelashesCurl.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:01.108 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.109 Loaded file: PHMEyelashesLengthUpper.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:01.114 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.115 Loaded file: PHMEyelashesLengthLower.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:01.120 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.120 Loaded file: PHMEyelashesCurl.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:01.125 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.127 Loaded file: PHMEyelashesExpand.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:01.243 File loaded in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.249 Loaded file: base mat eyelashes.duf

2022-09-09 07:11:01.252 Finished Loading Character Addons

2022-09-09 07:11:01.276 File loaded in 0 min 13.5 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.277 Loaded file: genesis 8 basic female.duf

2022-09-09 07:11:02.411 Loaded image g8fbasetorsomapd_1002.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:02.421 Loaded image g8fbasetorsomapb_1002.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:02.509 Loaded image g8fbasetorsomaps_1002.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:02.509 Loaded image g8fbasetorsomaps_1002.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:02.866 Loaded image g8fbasefacemapb_1001.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:02.985 Loaded image g8fbasefacemapd_1001.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:03.073 Loaded image g8fbasefacemaps_1001.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:03.077 Loaded image g8fbasefacemaps_1001.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:03.169 Loaded image g8fbasemouthmapb_1005.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:03.171 Loaded image g8fbasemouthmapd_1005.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:03.522 Loaded image g8fbaselegsmapb_1003.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:03.531 Loaded image g8fbaselegsmapd_1003.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:03.651 Loaded image g8fbaselegsmaps_1003.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:03.725 Loaded image g8fbaselegsmaps_1003.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:03.982 Loaded image g8fbasearmsmapb_1004.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:04.072 Loaded image g8fbasearmsmapd_1004.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:04.190 Loaded image g8fbasearmsmaps_1004.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:04.253 Loaded image g8fbasearmsmaps_1004.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:04.285 Loaded image g8fbaseeyesb_1007.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:04.288 Loaded image g8fbaseeyes01_1007.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:04.374 Loaded image g8fbaseeyelashes_1006.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:15.003 Loaded image fbmthin.png

2022-09-09 07:11:15.005 Loaded image fbmthin.png

2022-09-09 07:11:24.756 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:24.756 Loaded file: Body Thin.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:40.120 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:40.120 Loaded file: Hip Thighs Size.dsf

Hope that helps.

Is the Mei Lin 8 slider available and working? How about Josie 7 (I assume that is a conversion)?

Nope! Seems to be intruding. That is Base G8F with only Body Thin & Hip Thigh added since you said minimal morphs. This is straight from Smart category. 

Awaiting new march orders.

Mei lin and Josie were loaded separately.

But do the sliders load and work? The log shows at least some of their files loading.

Yes seem too.  Till this thought smart was fine but seems to be both categories..

Most definitely the thin and hip thigh.

As to josie and Mei. those do not show in parameters.

Think Josie and Mei also loading G8 male as well. 

A thought hit hit me what could cause the irregularity.

I am running Daz 4.15 and Genesis 8.1 is loaded on my system.

Tried several times to install current Daz and all ended in failure.

Smart Content is just a different way to organise (some of) the user-facing files (the ones that you see in the panes.) It shouldn't make a difference to the asset files, which are hidden from sight.

I really don't understand the issue here - the base figure is obviosuly installed correctly or it wouldn't load at all, the characters seem to be installed correctly or their textures would give errors on applying materials, and apparently the morphs load and work in some situations but not in others. This is really weird given the way fiels are grouped for installation and the way in which they are loaded. It might be useful tp post the fuil log, and also the full log from successfully loading a character in which the associated morphs do appear - if you zip them up and post them to soemthing like OneDrive or Google Drive or DropBox you should be able to post a link - but I am not sanguine about being able to figure anything out.

Correct me if wrong but 8.1 is not suposed to load on Daz 4.15.

Things are loading where Daz loads it.

Loaded Gen 3 this morning as a test and had few error messages but did not seem to load with or take morphs.

Thinking uninstalling Daz 4.15 and loading latest version.

Would prefer manual uninstall rather than trusting incoming version.

Correct me if wrong but Think it can be done without wiping out current loads.

Sorry, I'd missed your second post at the top of this page. Yes, 8.1 will work but will not pick up content for 8 so that is msot likely the issue. Using a character preset will load the correct base figure. I'm sorry I didn't think of that.

Ok I will abort this plan. Replaced G8 starter this morning and still had errors. 

Think I will remove Mei and Josie next and test.

Removed Mei and Josie but still cluttered. No Mei or teen Josie base  but plenty of others.

Gen 8.1 F loaded with lot of can't finds.

In the log (not finding target properties isn't necessaruily an issue) or pop-ups?

Cool. Working  on upload media. 

Something i have noticed that I think are different than before switching computers. 

When I switch gender based hair to opposite  the style shaping morphs do not work.

If you mean AutoFit are you sure they are morphs, which should carry over, not PoseControls for special bones (e.g. for tails) that will be lost in the conversion?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nAvY9BicS7rOy2ZIyZIv_FSt0rn8dWuo/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ESKQffN20jwHmID2SJQD6rXvT_B8bKZC/view?usp=sharing

Let me know if this works please. 

What do those represent? it would help if they ended with loading the character - and I don't see the entries fro asset load, which identify the fules involved.

Sorry I will do it again. Although I did not load and then clear log so that should be present.

Do you mean opening daz ?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11PQaYbacNkNJ1pXOfxOPalY6IeiY5Vco/view?usp=s

Loaded base g8f from smart

Loaded KR Frankie from Library

Tried to load Frankie morphs to base g8f (fail)

Loaded Arlene hair from smart

Loaded Pr Mia hair from library (object loads-no morphs adjustments or shape show in parameters) 

Loaded two clothing Items one on each character (objects load-fit to figure-will take mts however clothing poses contained in library fail to function.

I am doing my best to conform to conform to your Daz vernacular but find myself sorely taxed. As I age I enjoy this hobby but my circle of Geekness could care less about art so never bothered to learn it precisely.  I am a direct kind of person and this is an explanation and not an admonishment just so you understand. Very bad to bite the hand feeding you.

One potential issue the log shows i several nested content dirctories -

C:/Users/jackPC/Documents and within that C:/Users/jackPC/Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/My Library and then C:/Users/jackPC/Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/My Library/Documentation for Poser formats and :/Users/jackPC/Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/My Daz Connect Library  for Daz Studio formats.

This has the potential to confuse the content system, and also means that you will see the asset files (e.g. /data/daz 3d/genesis 8/female/morphs/) and try loading the .dsf files from there - reading your last post I think you may be doing this but that isn't how morphs are loaded, Daz Studio scans the data folder (which should be hidden from the content panes) and loads everything in to create the sliders. If you can see the data folder in the Content Library then there is an issue with the instalaltion, and that may well be your problem (or at least part of it).

I will be checking this and get back.

I looked and only become more confused for a course of action. I looked at the definition of nested and my interpretation is intertwined . I have thought previously installed  content had to be somewhere.  There seems to be a couple shortcuts that lead to the same places or slightly different leading me to think multiple layers of install.

I can see data file folders and components possibly two different data folders.

Unless you have a better idea I am thinking nuke it all and reinstall.

If the big delete is to be used I would prefer suggestions as to how to construct the Daztime for the best result please.

Nested content directories are when you have a folder selected as a content directory and also a sub-folder of that folder selected. What you could try is merging them into one (e.g. the My Library one), for Windows taking everything out of the sub-folder and placing it in the one you are keeping; Windows will ask if you want to merge and you say yes, then make sure that you remove the no-longer-needed folders from the list of cotnent diectories. You do need to be aware that if a scene or preset was saved pointing to one of the nested content folders its paths may include the sub-folder, which will then cause an error on the clean installation - that can be fixed with a text editor but it is a potential issue to be aware of.

Seems easy enough so we shall try tonight.

This appears to have rectified the problem !  Laud and another Laurel on your head for your patience and technical expertise. Thank You.

Great, I'm sorry I didn't go through this sooner.