Forum: Poser 13


Subject: Beginner question on materials

peter_wade opened this issue on Apr 13, 2023 ยท 21 posts


peter_wade posted Thu, 13 April 2023 at 2:17 PM

I am trying to setup the Superfly skin shader described in another thread here but when I try to add the nodes I can't find the Redfilter or Bump2Normal nodes anywhere in any of the menus or sub-menus. Do I need an add-on to get these or am I doing it wrong?

Also, I can't find a Color Map or Bump Map node but I can find an image_map node. Is this the same thing?



Y-Phil posted Thu, 13 April 2023 at 2:24 PM

The redfilter is in fact this one (right-clilck)

Bump to Normal:


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Rhia474 posted Thu, 13 April 2023 at 2:26 PM Online Now!

They are renamed nodes to make sense, I gad to ask as well. Thanks for the details, YPhil!!


Y-Phil posted Thu, 13 April 2023 at 2:30 PM

Color Map and Bump Map are just simple Image node. You have two: the classic:

And the Cycles-based:

The difference between the two are some parameters available in the Cycles version and not in the other. At the beginning, the classic one is easier to use.
You can change the label of a node by simply double-clicking on its title, so that you may enter what you want:

Abuse of Cycles nodes, not Double BigMac's... 


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Afrodite-Ohki posted Thu, 13 April 2023 at 4:18 PM

Wow, Y-Phil, I guess someone was hungry when explaining stuff ๐Ÿคฃ

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Y-Phil posted Thu, 13 April 2023 at 4:54 PM

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 4:18 PM Thu, 13 April 2023 - #4462090

Wow, Y-Phil, I guess someone was hungry when explaining stuff ๐Ÿคฃ

Lol...

I saw the word Beginner so I thought that snapshot would be easier to understand, and I do love use Flameshot for this... 

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peter_wade posted Thu, 13 April 2023 at 6:41 PM

Thank you for the explanation, Y-Phil. I've got it working on Vicky 4 and she's looking better now.

One minor problem.  I click on Subsurface Radius, update the numbers as shown and press return, but if I click on it again to check the numbers they have gone back to how they were at the start. I've tried not pressing return but clicking somewhere else but it still ignores my changes. Is there some trick to updating this?


hborre posted Thu, 13 April 2023 at 7:41 PM

Return sets the values.  Those values are just starters that work well for SSS.  There are other parameters that will give different skin tones, especially when the light shines behind the character through the thinner mesh illustrated below.



ghostship2 posted Thu, 13 April 2023 at 9:43 PM Online Now!

my bad for re-using those re-named nodes.

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ChromeStar posted Thu, 13 April 2023 at 10:53 PM

peter_wade posted at 6:41 PM Thu, 13 April 2023 - #4462101

Thank you for the explanation, Y-Phil. I've got it working on Vicky 4 and she's looking better now.

One minor problem.  I click on Subsurface Radius, update the numbers as shown and press return, but if I click on it again to check the numbers they have gone back to how they were at the start. I've tried not pressing return but clicking somewhere else but it still ignores my changes. Is there some trick to updating this?

Make sure you are entering all three values separated by commas before pressing enter. If you try to enter a single value, it won't know what to do with it and might throw it away.

Y-Phil posted Fri, 14 April 2023 at 3:24 AM

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 4:18 PM Thu, 13 April 2023 - #4462090

Wow, Y-Phil, I guess someone was hungry when explaining stuff ๐Ÿคฃ

Oops sorry I didn't get your  joke correctly as I was tired. I don't why I'm using this all the time, I probably eat one each 5 or 10 years... 

 


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Thalek posted Fri, 14 April 2023 at 10:34 AM

Y-Phil posted at 3:24 AM Fri, 14 April 2023 - #4462135

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 4:18 PM Thu, 13 April 2023 - #4462090

Wow, Y-Phil, I guess someone was hungry when explaining stuff ๐Ÿคฃ

Oops sorry I didn't get your  joke correctly as I was tired. I don't why I'm using this all the time, I probably eat one each 5 or 10 years... 

 


Because using Monty Python references in Python tutorials was already taken?

You wanted to give them a fast response, filled with information?

You wanted to get to the meat of the matter?

Or given how tired you were, perhaps you were simply fried?


Y-Phil posted Fri, 14 April 2023 at 10:38 AM

Thalek posted at 10:34 AM Fri, 14 April 2023 - #4462151

Y-Phil posted at 3:24 AM Fri, 14 April 2023 - #4462135

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 4:18 PM Thu, 13 April 2023 - #4462090

Wow, Y-Phil, I guess someone was hungry when explaining stuff ๐Ÿคฃ

Oops sorry I didn't get your  joke correctly as I was tired. I don't why I'm using this all the time, I probably eat one each 5 or 10 years... 

 


Because using Monty Python references in Python tutorials was already taken?

You wanted to give them a fast response, filled with information?

You wanted to get to the meat of the matter?

Or given how tired you were, perhaps you were simply fried?

Too tired indeed, to understand correctly Afrodite Ohki's funny remark 

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peter_wade posted Fri, 14 April 2023 at 10:39 AM

ChromeStar posted at 10:53 PM Thu, 13 April 2023 - #4462117

peter_wade posted at 6:41 PM Thu, 13 April 2023 - #4462101

Thank you for the explanation, Y-Phil. I've got it working on Vicky 4 and she's looking better now.

One minor problem.  I click on Subsurface Radius, update the numbers as shown and press return, but if I click on it again to check the numbers they have gone back to how they were at the start. I've tried not pressing return but clicking somewhere else but it still ignores my changes. Is there some trick to updating this?

Make sure you are entering all three values separated by commas before pressing enter. If you try to enter a single value, it won't know what to do with it and might throw it away.
I've had another go at this. I was entering the three numbers but the key icon was highlighted, I must have activated it accidentally when trying to click on the values. I tried to switch this off by de-selecting animated from the context menu but it still wouldn't accept my changes. Then I created a new node and this worked OK.

I'll do some more tests to try and figure out how this works. If I can't find a way to re-enable editing of the values I'll put a ticket in for it.


hborre posted Fri, 14 April 2023 at 11:45 AM

It should work perfectly fine.  I have no problems working with that feature.  Retaining and changing the values works as it should.  Either hit 'Return' or 'Enter' on your keyboard.


Afrodite-Ohki posted Mon, 17 April 2023 at 10:09 AM

Y-Phil posted at 10:38 AM Fri, 14 April 2023 - #4462153

Thalek posted at 10:34 AM Fri, 14 April 2023 - #4462151

Y-Phil posted at 3:24 AM Fri, 14 April 2023 - #4462135

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 4:18 PM Thu, 13 April 2023 - #4462090

Wow, Y-Phil, I guess someone was hungry when explaining stuff ๐Ÿคฃ

Oops sorry I didn't get your  joke correctly as I was tired. I don't why I'm using this all the time, I probably eat one each 5 or 10 years... 

 


Because using Monty Python references in Python tutorials was already taken?

You wanted to give them a fast response, filled with information?

You wanted to get to the meat of the matter?

Or given how tired you were, perhaps you were simply fried?

Too tired indeed, to understand correctly Afrodite Ohki's funny remark 

My brain is even worse when I'm hungry ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

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Y-Phil posted Mon, 17 April 2023 at 11:04 AM

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 10:09 AM Mon, 17 April 2023 - #4462465

My brain is even worse when I'm hungry ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ
What a relief! I am not alone in this case ๐Ÿ˜‚

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DCArt posted Mon, 17 April 2023 at 12:52 PM

>>> What a relief! I am not alone in this case ๐Ÿ˜‚

Nope, you're not alone. I decided to retire at end of last month because not only is my brain getting tired, but so are my eyes. My computer monitors are in that "in between" range on my progressives and I re-read my posts sometimes and see typos galore. LOL



Y-Phil posted Mon, 17 April 2023 at 1:12 PM

Oh I've read somewhere that to help our tiring brains, there's one option among others: the music, either played or listened 

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DCArt posted Mon, 17 April 2023 at 1:41 PM

Yeah why is it I can remember the lyrics from 50+ year old songs, but not what I was reaching for the mouse to do? LOL



Y-Phil posted Mon, 17 April 2023 at 2:48 PM

DCArt posted at 1:41 PM Mon, 17 April 2023 - #4462481

Yeah why is it I can remember the lyrics from 50+ year old songs, but not what I was reaching for the mouse to do? LOL

Looks like you're more interested in the sixties than in your mouse 

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