Who is ready for Lafemme 2?

Me! Me!! Me!!!  ~raises hand quickly~

I have been waiting for her for sooooo long.  :grin:

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It'll be exciting to see once she's released. Soooo much anticipation!

Happy to see sneak peeks on various fora!

Sneaky new forum I hadn't noticed! 🤣

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Listen, we're all just very sneaky here.

(This is so silly but I had to LOL)

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Lemura "Pssst Lorraine.... Are you ready?"

Lorraine "Yes, tell when we get released. Oh I am so excited, Tell me, Tell me, Tell me!!!"

Lemura "I will tell you. But you have to keep it a secret. Promise? Loni doesn't even know yet"

Lorraine "Yes, tell me, tell me!! I need to know! I wont tell anyone, not even Loni. I wont even tell Lafemme, I promise!"

Lemura "Ok, but this is a secret, and you can't tell anyone and spoil it. Promise?

Lorraine " Yes, yes, yes already.... Just tell me when!

Lemura whispers in Lorraine's ear "The second Tuesday of next week."

Lorraine "Yes!!  Wahoo!!  Wait.. What???? 

Lemura giggles....

Lorraine "OMG.... I can't believe I fell for that, you don't even know do you??

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Oh have mercy - I want to fiddle!

She is a stunning base 😍

shvrdavid posted at 7:27 PM Thu, 21 September 2023 - #4475008

I'm loving her skin and eyes, did you create them??? OMG, she's gorgeous!!!  :grin:

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Fantastic! 

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Miss B posted at 4:00 PM Fri, 22 September 2023 - #4475051

I'm loving her skin and eyes, did you create them??? OMG, she's gorgeous!!!  :grin:

There is more.....

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When are we getting her?

shvrdavid posted at 10:33 PM Fri, 22 September 2023 - #4475065

Miss B posted at 4:00 PM Fri, 22 September 2023 - #4475051

I'm loving her skin and eyes, did you create them??? OMG, she's gorgeous!!!  :grin:

There is more.....

EXCELLENT!!!  :slightly_smiling_face:

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Lemura

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She's excited and can't wait! Come on, give us a hug! :D

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I like how she looks with her arm up. The original LF didn't always look natural in that pose.

She looks a lot more voluptuous than Blackhearted's typical GND.

Reminder that a lot of what we're showing here is morphed etc.

This is her original, unmorphed shape:

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Wow! LF 2.0 completely blows the original La Femme out of the water! I can't wait to get her!

Also-- is L'Homme 2.0 in the works? I HAVE to know.....

Anim8dtoon posted at 11:19 AM Sun, 24 September 2023 - #4475186

Also-- is L'Homme 2.0 in the works? I HAVE to know.....

In the plans, but not in the works...

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Ooh, diversity! <3

Rhia474 posted at 2:57 PM Sun, 24 September 2023 - #4475206

Ooh, diversity! <3

I'll say!!  Looking great Ohki!!  :grin:

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Sometimes you just have to express yourself.

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shvrdavid posted at 7:21 PM Sun, 24 September 2023 - #4475211

Sometimes you just have to express yourself.

SS Loni for LaFemme2, LaFemme2 expressions.

Nicely done!  :slightly_smiling_face:

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Any clothing comparability with La Femme Pro?  I am particularly interested in dynamic clothing compatibility. I am very happy to see a red head with freckles character. All of them are pretty and will probably see my runtime soon. I just hope it’s not a Daz “soon”.😏

I will release a dress and a t-shirt as dyn. But did not test it on LaFe1

pigfish9 posted at 11:22 PM Mon, 25 September 2023 - #4475274

Any clothing comparability with La Femme Pro?  I am particularly interested in dynamic clothing compatibility. I am very happy to see a red head with freckles character. All of them are pretty and will probably see my runtime soon. I just hope it’s not a Daz “soon”.😏

Dynamic clothing fits easily! Information here: https://www.renderosity.com/article/27275/poser-pulse-fitting-dynamics-from-lf-to-lf2

Conforming clothing needs to be converted to her.

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Hey @everyone! I created a La Femme 2 Genre for everyone to upload La Femme in the Poser Gallery, linked below.

https://www.renderosity.com/gallery/genres/89/la-femme-2

CreatorJacqueline posted at 1:51 PM Tue, 26 September 2023 - #4475295

Hey @everyone! I created a La Femme 2 Genre for everyone to upload La Femme in the Poser Gallery, linked below.

https://www.renderosity.com/gallery/genres/89/la-femme-2

Thank you for doing that!! It already has a few really nice uploads showing off!!  :wink:

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I checked out the link on fitting La Femme’s dynamic clothing to La Femme 2. How fantastic to be able to set LF2’s shape to LF’s shape for the draping frames than dial her back up to LF2’s shape at the posing/morphing frame. What a great addition. 

CreatorJacqueline posted at 1:51 PM Tue, 26 September 2023 - #4475295

Hey @everyone! I created a La Femme 2 Genre for everyone to upload La Femme in the Poser Gallery, linked below.

https://www.renderosity.com/gallery/genres/89/la-femme-2

"Lorraine" looks like Anna Grant from Blake's 7.

I'm ready for la femme 2

But it's there any change to l'homme 2

I wanna try

My first image with Lafemme 2. She's wearing clothes for Lafemme. I only converted the boots. The rest is dynamic and works with the Lafemme shape dial. I used the convert textures script and used a Lafemme texture. Hair was one for  Lafemme and used a Lafemme 2 fit morph. The pose is for Lafemme and used the Lafemme pose dial. The shown shape is her original since I don't have any morphs for her yet.

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My personal opinion is that she looks really really bad. Wrong proportions, inaccurate anatomy, lack of details and silly expressions. It could have been done much better.

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It makes me sad Alex that you, a professional, would come in here and say such mean spirited things.  This is a base that others can use to make their own magic with.  WOW.  I'm really disappointed in you and your mean spirited post!  

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I am very happy with the little lady, but...  She loads in Daz, textures, hair and all, renders perfectly there, too, but try to move anything on her and she explodes all over the screen.  Why??  I -know- she is a Poser gal, but everything else about her works fine in Studio.  What am I doing wrong?  Sorry if this isn't the right forum, maybe.

Either way, congrats on such a fine product!!

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Poser weight mapping and DAZ weight mapping are different. That's why they can't use each other's figures, at least not without jumping through some hoops.

Non-weight mapped Poser figures will work in DAZ Studio, but weight-mapped won't. I don't think they even work in earlier versions of Poser.

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RAMWorks posted at 7:26 PM Wed, 27 September 2023 - #4475425

It makes me sad Alex that you, a professional, would come in here and say such mean spirited things.  This is a base that others can use to make their own magic with.  WOW.  I'm really disappointed in you and your mean spirited post!  

It wasn't meant to be a mean spirited post, but my honest review and opinion, and a way to suggest to possibly increase the quality of the product. Just that. But if you guys are happy with it and think it's a great asset please go ahead, don't mind my comment.

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papillon68 posted at 5:34 PM Wed, 27 September 2023 - #4475417

My personal opinion is that she looks really really bad. Wrong proportions, inaccurate anatomy, lack of details and silly expressions. It could have been done much better.

It would help if you have some details on what you list.

'Wrong proportions'-- which part?

'Inaccurate anatomy'-- such as?

'Lack of details'-- without explanation,  I would surmise you are taking the unmodded base figure as lacking in details, but again, please elaborate

'Silly expressions ' - this is highly subjective, we all make faces and sometimes exaggeration is used to show on promos what the mesh is capable of. 

Trying to engage in some constructive discussion if people are willing.

I find it far easier to just make her work and be what you want her to be. WIP for Lafemme 2.

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Rhia474 posted at 3:50 PM Thu, 28 September 2023 - #4475473

papillon68 posted at 5:34 PM Wed, 27 September 2023 - #4475417

My personal opinion is that she looks really really bad. Wrong proportions, inaccurate anatomy, lack of details and silly expressions. It could have been done much better.

It would help if you have some details on what you list.

'Wrong proportions'-- which part?

'Inaccurate anatomy'-- such as?

Trying to engage in some constructive discussion if people are willing.

At the risk of being accused of an "agenda" again (whatever)...

The two areas that stand out to me the most are the arms and the legs.

Brachioradialis inserts above the elbow and between the bicep and tricep, but on LF2 it just sort of floats below the elbow, making the bicep appear longer than the forearm and giving a more toonish look overall. It seems the geometry was modified to support this (as opposed to LF1's straight rows of geometry) but then wasn't actually used.

So I made a corrective morph in zbrush to get closer to what it should look like:

This could be implemented via JCM correctives, but if it had been built into the base shape then that wouldn't be necessary.

Same with the legs. The inner arc of the gastrocnemius (calf muscle) is lower and more pronounced generally when viewed from the front, while the outer is higher and smoother, ending right by or just above the knee. LF2 essentially reverses this, and leaves the outer arc of the gastrocnemius as a sort of lump while the inner arc is virtually nonexistent.

So again I did some corrective morphs to demonstrate what it should look like (a bit more pronounced than necessary just to show the differences):

Again, this could be implemented with JCMs but shouldn't have needed to be, especially with the focus on reducing the need for JCMs.

There are a few other points that could have used attention in the base shape (hip to shoulder ratio, width/depth of ribcage) but these are what stand out the most to me.

I was going to point them out back when LF2 was first shown but by then it was too late in development to be changed. And I haven't had much time to pay much attention to the goings-on in poserdom due to RL issues lately.

I can appreciate that her creator(s) are attempting to offer a different figure from the standard 20-something Barbie-esque white girl for Poser who only eats once every full moon, it should still reflect more accurate human anatomy. These details may not seem like much to a lot of folks, especially on their own, but combined they stand out to the more critical users who want more realism in their dolls.

There are thousands of anatomy references online that are just a google search away, it's a shame that more character artists in Poser don't utilize them and instead go by what they think looks right in their minds eye. Just search any body part like "arm anatomy" and you can scroll through the results for days, learn the names of all the muscles, how they interact with other muscles and stretch or contract during movement, etc. There are even free courses on youtube for both medical students and artists. It's also a shame that any criticism is viewed with contempt instead of used to improve our skills as artists.

Overall she seems to be an improvement over LF1. There is more topological detail to support better anatomy, so that's a plus for those who don't mind doing their own morphs. Her face is cuter than LF1 (in my opinion), so that's also a plus.

Hello! I don't have Poser 13 or LF2 but as I am a merchant and given the fact that I created several products for LF1, I would like to know the following LF2 compatibility with LF1:

- Skin Textures / MATs?

- Conforming Long Hair?

- Face morphs > Does LF2 have the possibility to change its face to LF1 and accept LF1's face morphs?

- Dynamic clothes > Does LF2 have the ability to change to LF1's pose and body morphology?

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Texture mats work but the eyes, eyelashes and brows are all different UV's now.  I think she works natively in Poser 11 so you might have access to the free version of LF2 3Dream!  

Dynamic clothing with some adjustments will work fine with the shape.  Conforming hair will have to refitted but not sure about long hair, esp if it has bones.  You would more than likely need to parent it to the head and be OK with that.  There is a default LF1 shape included with the figure but it's not rigged to move properly so it's just a shape for transferring things over to LF2 but not sure about morphs, you can try if you like.  

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LF2 works in P11, 12, and 13. No idea what version of Poser you have, but she works and is available for all 3.

LaFemme2 Lite is in the purchases tab for download on all three recent versions of Poser.

It would be far better for you to try her than explain all of it, but again, I don't know what version of Poser you have.....

The only thing that doesn't work in your list, are morphs. The topology is different. 

There are differences in the way textures have to be set up to use LF1 eyes, lashes and brows on LF2, but you can get them to work with shader offsets and masks. The skin uv's (body, limbs, and torso) are identical.

Conforming clothing (which you didn't mention) has to be converted, and the Pro version comes with things to help with that as well.

If you don't have P11 or up, none of this really matters thou. I doubt she will work in older versions anyway.

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Thanks AmbientShade, those are valid points and exactly what's needed to start a dialog, imo. You pointed out the arm and leg issues where some stuff was fixed compared to LF1 ( looking at shoulder and feet) but it probably brought new challenges... :)

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3Dream, if you have Poser 12 you should be set. LF2 comes with scripts (in the materials folder) that will convert LF1 eye and brow textures to LF2. The scripts don't work in Poser 11, but they do work in Poser 12 (and 13).

Though the RMP says you need the Pro version for the morph packs, Ohki (who made the morphs) said they'll work with the Lite version.

LF2 also comes with a LF1 morph and pose, that changes her shape and pose to LF1's, so you can use LF1's dynamic clothing on her.

Thanks a lot randym77.

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AmbientShade posted at 9:09 AM Fri, 29 September 2023 - #4475514

Rhia474 posted at 3:50 PM Thu, 28 September 2023 - #4475473

papillon68 posted at 5:34 PM Wed, 27 September 2023 - #4475417

My personal opinion is that she looks really really bad. Wrong proportions, inaccurate anatomy, lack of details and silly expressions. It could have been done much better.

It would help if you have some details on what you list.

'Wrong proportions'-- which part?

'Inaccurate anatomy'-- such as?

Trying to engage in some constructive discussion if people are willing.

At the risk of being accused of an "agenda" again (whatever)...

The two areas that stand out to me the most are the arms and the legs.

Brachioradialis inserts above the elbow and between the bicep and tricep, but on LF2 it just sort of floats below the elbow, making the bicep appear longer than the forearm and giving a more toonish look overall. It seems the geometry was modified to support this (as opposed to LF1's straight rows of geometry) but then wasn't actually used.

So I made a corrective morph in zbrush to get closer to what it should look like:

This could be implemented via JCM correctives, but if it had been built into the base shape then that wouldn't be necessary.

Same with the legs. The inner arc of the gastrocnemius (calf muscle) is lower and more pronounced generally when viewed from the front, while the outer is higher and smoother, ending right by or just above the knee. LF2 essentially reverses this, and leaves the outer arc of the gastrocnemius as a sort of lump while the inner arc is virtually nonexistent.

So again I did some corrective morphs to demonstrate what it should look like (a bit more pronounced than necessary just to show the differences):

Again, this could be implemented with JCMs but shouldn't have needed to be, especially with the focus on reducing the need for JCMs.

There are a few other points that could have used attention in the base shape (hip to shoulder ratio, width/depth of ribcage) but these are what stand out the most to me.

I was going to point them out back when LF2 was first shown but by then it was too late in development to be changed. And I haven't had much time to pay much attention to the goings-on in poserdom due to RL issues lately.

I can appreciate that her creator(s) are attempting to offer a different figure from the standard 20-something Barbie-esque white girl for Poser who only eats once every full moon, it should still reflect more accurate human anatomy. These details may not seem like much to a lot of folks, especially on their own, but combined they stand out to the more critical users who want more realism in their dolls.

There are thousands of anatomy references online that are just a google search away, it's a shame that more character artists in Poser don't utilize them and instead go by what they think looks right in their minds eye. Just search any body part like "arm anatomy" and you can scroll through the results for days, learn the names of all the muscles, how they interact with other muscles and stretch or contract during movement, etc. There are even free courses on youtube for both medical students and artists. It's also a shame that any criticism is viewed with contempt instead of used to improve our skills as artists.

Overall she seems to be an improvement over LF1. There is more topological detail to support better anatomy, so that's a plus for those who don't mind doing their own morphs. Her face is cuter than LF1 (in my opinion), so that's also a plus.

See, the thing is - both her original and your modifications are seen in real people. One BASE can't possibly have everything that everyone prefers - and that's why it's a base. You can modify the base to your best dreams, and sure, it would be better for you if she looked like that from the get go, but it wouldn't be better for others who prefer her shape :) Not even Jesus was able to please everyone, I wouldn't even try. The purpose of a base is to be just that, a base, for people to modify however they prefer.

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On that note, I've seen so many people try to define "more accurate human anatomy" in these forums lately, with SEVERELY different reference pictures - that's because human anatomy can be severely varied ;) LF2 was made using real human references, you can all be sure of that. They're just not the same real humans you people are referring to.

I've seen a couple people say her legs aren't human. She's got my real legs' shape. Last time I checked, I was human. LOL

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(Forgot to say, though: Those are beautiful morphs, I love them, and I agree that more people might like them and want to buy a set of those ;D)

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I'd like to point out that not long after the original LF Pro came out, Blackhearted made a freebie morph that enabled users to fit V4 hair figures and props to her head. Does LF 2/LF2 Pro have a morph for V4 and other legacy hair? Or would one need to be created? I've got so many older hair props and figures I'd like to use with LF 2 without a ton of effort.

AmbientShade posted at 9:09 AM Fri, 29 September 2023 - #4475514

Rhia474 posted at 3:50 PM Thu, 28 September 2023 - #4475473

papillon68 posted at 5:34 PM Wed, 27 September 2023 - #4475417

My personal opinion is that she looks really really bad. Wrong proportions, inaccurate anatomy, lack of details and silly expressions. It could have been done much better.

It would help if you have some details on what you list.

'Wrong proportions'-- which part?

'Inaccurate anatomy'-- such as?

Trying to engage in some constructive discussion if people are willing.

At the risk of being accused of an "agenda" again (whatever)...

The two areas that stand out to me the most are the arms and the legs.

Brachioradialis inserts above the elbow and between the bicep and tricep, but on LF2 it just sort of floats below the elbow, making the bicep appear longer than the forearm and giving a more toonish look overall. It seems the geometry was modified to support this (as opposed to LF1's straight rows of geometry) but then wasn't actually used.

So I made a corrective morph in zbrush to get closer to what it should look like:

This could be implemented via JCM correctives, but if it had been built into the base shape then that wouldn't be necessary.

Same with the legs. The inner arc of the gastrocnemius (calf muscle) is lower and more pronounced generally when viewed from the front, while the outer is higher and smoother, ending right by or just above the knee. LF2 essentially reverses this, and leaves the outer arc of the gastrocnemius as a sort of lump while the inner arc is virtually nonexistent.

So again I did some corrective morphs to demonstrate what it should look like (a bit more pronounced than necessary just to show the differences):

Again, this could be implemented with JCMs but shouldn't have needed to be, especially with the focus on reducing the need for JCMs.

There are a few other points that could have used attention in the base shape (hip to shoulder ratio, width/depth of ribcage) but these are what stand out the most to me.

I was going to point them out back when LF2 was first shown but by then it was too late in development to be changed. And I haven't had much time to pay much attention to the goings-on in poserdom due to RL issues lately.

I can appreciate that her creator(s) are attempting to offer a different figure from the standard 20-something Barbie-esque white girl for Poser who only eats once every full moon, it should still reflect more accurate human anatomy. These details may not seem like much to a lot of folks, especially on their own, but combined they stand out to the more critical users who want more realism in their dolls.

There are thousands of anatomy references online that are just a google search away, it's a shame that more character artists in Poser don't utilize them and instead go by what they think looks right in their minds eye. Just search any body part like "arm anatomy" and you can scroll through the results for days, learn the names of all the muscles, how they interact with other muscles and stretch or contract during movement, etc. There are even free courses on youtube for both medical students and artists. It's also a shame that any criticism is viewed with contempt instead of used to improve our skills as artists.

Overall she seems to be an improvement over LF1. There is more topological detail to support better anatomy, so that's a plus for those who don't mind doing their own morphs. Her face is cuter than LF1 (in my opinion), so that's also a plus.

I am not aware of any agenda and I am certainly no expert on the human anatomy but I like both the changes but not too sure on the knee with the changes in the leg, but that is just me.  There were a vast number morphs available for V4 and some corrective morphs for Dawn such as the arms and the upper legs so I guess this is always going to happen with any new figure.  

I think constructive criticism is always good. 

 

 

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Apropo DAZ Studio..sry for Skin..i am not a Skin adjuster. Only wanna show that it is possible in seconds to let her pose in Daz Studio

Clothes by me, Hair by Afrodite-Ohki and LaFe2 Premiere Pumps..a Blackhearted Pose with adjustment.

Install your ruuntimes under Poser Formats in Daz. Load her..go to figure ..rigging..convert figure to weightmapping..do this

Load conforming clothes and pose..adjust maybe some handposes...holla...all fine

LaFemme2 in her Basics and DazStudio :)

Just for funsies, I took the liberty to render LaFemme 2 and Antonia Polygon together, with LF2 scaled to 94 percent to make them the same height.

The most obvious difference to me is that while AP's figure is rather boyish (her creator may have a type - I'm just guessing here), LF2 has more typically feminine features, with her shorter legs, narrower shoulders, ampler bosom, and generally softer, rounder shapes. There's one glaring exception, though: her hips are really, really narrow. In terms of overall proportions, I would probably change three things: widen the hips considerably, enlarge her tiny head and shorten the neck (counts as one), and make her feet and ankles a tad larger. Not necessarily as large as Antonia's, mind you, who has been accused of having cankles, but maybe the two ladies could meet somewhere in the middle.

-- I'm not mad at you, just Westphalian.

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Here's my humble attempt at "fixing" the little things that bothered me about LF2's base shape. Original on the left, my version on the right.

I ended up scaling the head and feet to 105 percent and widening the hips with a magnet. This took only a few minutes, and the result looks really pleasing to me. If morphing her face is as easy, and I have no reason to believe otherwise, I'm a happy camper.

-- I'm not mad at you, just Westphalian.

And that's the entire purpose - as a base, my priority was making her so that she would be easier to morph and bend into each person's preference :D I'm glad to see it seems to be working well enough.

It's really fun to see what everyone can change her into!

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I like it! I spent the weekend making head morphs in hexagon and diddling with the texture.  Haven't fooled with the body yet. The jaw's not 

difficult to work with like LF 1, and its very malleable. It reminds me of Miki 1 or A3, two of my favorites, but I don't see it outstripping V4 or Sasha 16 unless people

really get on board and do amazing things with it. Love that everything in the base set is merchant resource, that should help a lot.

She bends pretty well, though her limbs can look a little odd in extreme poses. (Normal, IME.)

I'm impressed with how well that tank top held up. There would be poke through in a lot of conforming items.

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3Dream posted at 5:24 PM Mon, 2 October 2023 - #4475692

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In my wish list for the time being.

 

 

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On my wishlist now..Thanks for updating :)

Yes, thank you for the updates 3Dream!  So nice!  

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We are so fortunate to have 3Dream making merchant resources for La Femme2 (as well as L'Homme and La Femme 1).  His other MR's are just as high quality.  Check out his store, you won't be disappointed!

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La Femme 2
My first impressions when we met were more positive than I expected.

First all positive impressions...
Fantastic implementation of the feet. They are the best thing I have ever seen.
It's great how you can adjust very natural-looking movements, I'm totally thrilled even though I'm not a foot fetishist...
The eyes, really great.
The whole rig worked out well to very well. Even if morphing changes have been made to the joint areas, everything can still be moved well and presentably.
The face and neck are also very well done, look good and suggest many possibilities.

And what I didn't like:
The marginal features of this figure!
For your money you get a merciless basic figure, nothing more and nothing less.
No body details such as ribs, muscles or tendons can be highlighted with this basic package.
The skin shader is also delivered in a rather lean version. The basic settings of the shader are hardly usable. After a few corrections and removing the SSS map, which in my opinion was completely unnecessary, LaFemme2 looked a little better after rendering.
Here the intention quickly becomes clear that you should buy these things later. Understandable...!

You can't even begin to compare them with Project Evolution One and its hundreds of setting options that go down to the smallest detail and the massively superior skin shaders.
After bending, LaFemme2's knees and elbows remind me of buckled foam insulation tubes. However, with careful morphing you can almost completely eliminate this.
It takes a few hours of work to regulate what I consider to be unnatural body shapes.
With excessive morphing, the basemesh tends to form spikes or smaller deformations. But other characters also have this problem.

The back two figures are originals. The two in front and the one at the front are roughly edited figures by me with my skin shader settings.

Yep; remember when V4 came out the first time? How what you got was this thing wearing the purple bathing suit and you had to buy all the morph packages and skin shaders and everything for her?" Same idea here, I bet. Except you actually get an useable figure in both the free version and the standalone without the morph packages.

I think I love her...!?!

Rhia474 posted at 5:36 PM Tue, 3 October 2023 - #4475769

Yep; remember when V4 came out the first time? How what you got was this thing wearing the purple bathing suit and you had to buy all the morph packages and skin shaders and everything for her?" Same idea here, I bet. Except you actually get an useable figure in both the free version and the standalone without the morph packages.

I have to be careful so Ohki doesn't get mad again!

Charly_99 posted at 5:55 PM Tue, 3 October 2023 - #4475770

I think I love her...!?!

I loves them collarbones!

Investing in a new figure is always going to prove costly but separate morph packages does allow purchasers to buy when the finances allow rather than having to save up the high price of a new figure package including loads of products.

 

 

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I think LaFemme2 has a lot of potential. It is a lot better than its predecessor. I wish her all the best on her journey through the GPU's.

With SSSMap...

And without SSSMap...

....and other settings!

Nice renders.

And I see what you mean about the feet. You could probably sell those images on OnlyFans. ;-)

The "other settings"

As the saying goes?

The horse is saddled from the other side.

On the Minako Face, the areas around the eyes become too thin and then the shader burns through the layers.

Domestic violence??? No...

A little makeup and all is right with the world again!

randym77 posted at 11:33 PM Tue, 3 October 2023 - #4475790

Nice renders.

And I see what you mean about the feet. You could probably sell those images on OnlyFans. ;-)

Ohhh yes....

I LOOOOOVE THIS FEEEEEET. The best on this planet...

Charly_99 posted at 5:58 PM Tue, 3 October 2023 - #4475771

Rhia474 posted at 5:36 PM Tue, 3 October 2023 - #4475769

Yep; remember when V4 came out the first time? How what you got was this thing wearing the purple bathing suit and you had to buy all the morph packages and skin shaders and everything for her?" Same idea here, I bet. Except you actually get an useable figure in both the free version and the standalone without the morph packages.

I have to be careful so Ohki doesn't get mad again!

What? What did I do??? I'm loving it here! So fun to see you all playing with her and bending her into your favorite shapes and forms!

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VERY nice Charly!  Yes, sometimes the SSS maps are completely unnecessary.  The comparison renders of the feets shows this.  I like the one better without the SSS map for sure.  

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I think I'm actually becoming a foot fetishist... :)

This is Lindsey for LF2, will soon be done with this one.

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Just to say that I feel very satisfied with the free morphs that I have been creating for La Femme 2.

La Femme 2 is a spectacular figure and very easy to work with.

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