MichaelMolasar opened this issue on Sep 23, 2023 ยท 27 posts
MichaelMolasar posted Sat, 23 September 2023 at 5:12 PM
I really would like to recreated "Rina" by metalhed13.
Metalhed13's DeviantArt account was deleted and I couldn't find a way to contact him.
The character has been created in 2012 or before.
I think it's V4, but I don't have a clue.
What characters, morphs, poses, hair and accessories were used?
hborre posted Sat, 23 September 2023 at 5:47 PM
It looks like V4 but as for the morphs used, it's a guess. The same applies to skin texture.
randym77 posted Sat, 23 September 2023 at 5:55 PM
The clothing is "Summoner," available here in the Marketplace.
There's a V4 version and a Genesis 3 version. Clothing textures look like this, which perhaps means that's the G3 female.
https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/121195/dms-summoner-genesis-3f
Not sure about the character. She looks like any of a bunch of very similar Poser/DS characters.
hborre posted Sat, 23 September 2023 at 5:56 PM
According to a web search, this character was predominantly used for porn and hentai comics but this was quite some time ago. I doubt you'll be able to find any other information about how she was created.
MichaelMolasar posted Sat, 23 September 2023 at 6:08 PM
randym77 posted at 5:55 PM Sat, 23 September 2023 - #4475137
Thanks for the clothing link.The clothing is "Summoner," available here in the Marketplace.
There's a V4 version and a Genesis 3 version. Clothing textures look like this, which perhaps means that's the G3 female.
https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/121195/dms-summoner-genesis-3f
Not sure about the character. She looks like any of a bunch of very similar Poser/DS characters.
I also think it's V4 or G3 and yes many look very similar.
You can see that SSS is used
randym77 posted Sat, 23 September 2023 at 6:11 PM
Actually, it looks like the same texture was included with the V4 version, so maybe it's V4.
MichaelMolasar posted Sat, 23 September 2023 at 6:14 PM
hborre posted at 5:56 PM Sat, 23 September 2023 - #4475138
It's mostly nude pinups that have spread to multiple sites and only a few reference the now defunct DeviantArt page of metalhed13.According to a web search, this character was predominantly used for porn and hentai comics but this was quite some time ago. I doubt you'll be able to find any other information about how she was created.
Finding the guy and asuming he would be willing to tell me what was used would be great, but the guy seems to be gone from the Internet.
MichaelMolasar posted Sat, 23 September 2023 at 6:18 PM
Actually, it looks like the same texture was included with the V4 version, so maybe it's V4.
Also the body of the Rina character looks more like V4 to me.
This is my best guess for the face but there are so many faces that look similar it's hard to tell.
https://www.daz3d.com/delilah-for-victoria-4
randym77 posted Sat, 23 September 2023 at 6:36 PM
I bet someone knows what hair that is. Check out the Delilah Bundle at DAZ. That looks like the hair. Though it's not included with that product.
The character might be his own mix of morphs and textures. The shape of one character, the texture of another, or maybe he dialed her face himself.
That soft, idealized texture reminds of Jessaii, Sabby, or Seven, back when they did V4 characters.You might look through their stores here.
The ears may have been separate. There' s a lot of elf ear morphs out there.
randym77 posted Sat, 23 September 2023 at 6:38 PM
randym77 posted at 6:11 PM Sat, 23 September 2023 - #4475140Actually, it looks like the same texture was included with the V4 version, so maybe it's V4.
Also the body of the Rina character looks more like V4 to me.
This is my best guess for the face but there are so many faces that look similar it's hard to tell.
Check out the hair in the last promo pic.
MichaelMolasar posted Sat, 23 September 2023 at 6:39 PM
Here are a good amount of picture
NSFW https://vk.com/album-27710230_207099139
MichaelMolasar posted Sat, 23 September 2023 at 6:48 PM
Check out the hair in the last promo pic.
That is definitely the same hair with a different texture you are right.
Looks like am early sabby face you might be on to something.
DreaminGirl posted Sat, 23 September 2023 at 8:03 PM
Definitely get a 'Sabby' feeling from this one. You could check these:
https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/96061
https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/85099
DreaminGirl posted Sat, 23 September 2023 at 9:22 PM
These could also work:
https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/96544
https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/87095
https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/64572
randym77 posted Sat, 23 September 2023 at 9:40 PM
Dylan looks the closest to me, though the face morph is different.
The hair looks like SWAM. This is close:
https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/96872/cora-hair-for-v4
MichaelMolasar posted Sat, 23 September 2023 at 11:52 PM
Dylan looks the closest to me, though the face morph is different.
The hair looks like SWAM. This is close:
https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/96872/cora-hair-for-v4
I found the exact Hair
https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/87699randym77 posted Sun, 24 September 2023 at 4:26 AM
That is the hair. It comes with poses to hide and morph the flowers in it; you can hide them all, and get just the pearls.
The body looks kind of toony to me. My guess is it has The Girl and Aiko 4 in the mix, and probably something like Voluptuous. Summoner has a ton of morphs built in.
(I had all this stuff in my runtime already.)
Y-Phil posted Sun, 24 September 2023 at 8:59 AM
If you think that it's a Vic4, you may also consider using Sasha-16, in its 2019 version. Ask if you don't find it anywhere. Its creator was giving it for free but he disappeared. From what I've read online: hit by a car, he ended up in an hospital but: no news since then.
On the left: Sasha-16, with a few morphs I've never seen on any Vic4 + morphs++, on the right: I changed only Hip Size
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NikKelly posted Sun, 24 September 2023 at 9:39 AM
Sorry, though deleted DA accounts' work is often rescued, re-posted by others, I cannot find this classic character there or in my sprawling archives....
:-(
prixat posted Sun, 24 September 2023 at 10:30 AM
Does anyone recognise the texture by it's spots. I thought it looked vaguely familiar and spent some time looking through the skins I have but did not find this particular pattern of spots.
It's a tough job but someone had to do it!!! LOL
Here's another one to consider, the face (and ears) look a lot like Zyra over at DAZ.
regards
prixat
Y-Phil posted Sun, 24 September 2023 at 3:02 PM
If you think that it's similar enough:
Then it''s Sabby's Cortney
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randym77 posted Sun, 24 September 2023 at 3:47 PM
It does look like a Sabby texture to me, but I don't think it's Cortney. Cortney has freckles, and the makeup and eyebrows are different.
Vendors often make multiple characters from the same photo resources, so it could be another Sabby texture. Or, heck, someone else could have bought the same merchant resources, but it looks very Sabby to me.
MichaelMolasar posted Sun, 24 September 2023 at 4:58 PM
Good thinking
I have found Sabby-Hayli (Nov 21, 2010) and Sabby-Noelle (Jun 15, 2012) have the same moles and fit in the timeline.
Sabby characters I checked, that don't have the same texture Coryn, Gemma, Karyn, Rayne.
When doing a google search for "Rina by metalhed13" in the period from 2000 to 2013 you can find these two little articles on affect3d.com with a date given
So "September, 10, 2012" is the earliest appearance of Rina I could find, that would mean all the parts that make up her core body should be older than that.
Apollonia Hair which is Rina's hair was released in July 20, 2011
Sabby Cortney was released July 18, 2013 that disqualifies it.
that looks pretty good
You are right the body is fairly exaggerated in shape, looking at some of the picture he might have used natural gravity morphs
MichaelMolasar posted Wed, 27 September 2023 at 6:28 PM
Sorry, though deleted DA accounts' work is often rescued, re-posted by others, I cannot find this classic character there or in my sprawling archives....
:-(
I did some digging and I think I got all pictures
https://postimg.cc/gallery/jKGdnWT
MichaelMolasar posted Fri, 29 September 2023 at 5:49 AM
randym77 posted at 4:26 AM Sun, 24 September 2023 - #4475168
I did some digging, some of his DA profile got archived.That is the hair. It comes with poses to hide and morph the flowers in it; you can hide them all, and get just the pearls.
The body looks kind of toony to me. My guess is it has The Girl and Aiko 4 in the mix, and probably something like Voluptuous. Summoner has a ton of morphs built in.
(I had all this stuff in my runtime already.)
The most relevant information I got
He talked about using P3D's Gloria for another character that looked very similar to Rina.
I am fairly confident that PD Gloria is the base and he used morphs++ to create Rina's head.
Regarding the textures I think he used Sabby Paige.
He used to create Oblivion mods before doing work with Poser and Rina was originally a Oblivion character that he recreated in Poser9.
His modding background and a comment about editing Rina's textures in one of his last renders leads me to believe he probably edited the textures from the very start.
Rina created around mar 12, 2012
V4, PD Gloria as base, Sabby Paige's textures, morphx++, Aiko4, elite utopian, Perfect V4 Complete - Full Body Fix.
Here are my results messing around with gloria as a base.
randym77 posted Fri, 29 September 2023 at 10:41 AM
Not bad!
Rina's face looks a little longer and thinner to me. Maybe some "Face full" with a small negative setting?
MichaelMolasar posted Sat, 30 September 2023 at 12:07 AM
randym77 posted at 10:41 AM Fri, 29 September 2023 - #4475520
Yeah, you were spot on it needed a little bit of "face long".Not bad!
Rina's face looks a little longer and thinner to me. Maybe some "Face full" with a small negative setting?
The mouth is the trickiest since all the pictures have her make an expression.
Here is what I got right now.
If anyone wants to play along
V4, PD Gloria (head1), morph++ and for the textures Sabby Paige