Hi 

  I  have just started to use Poser again. I had stopped using it when Dawn first came out, so it has been awhile. So I think that Lafemme2 looks great but I am curious what advantages does she have over V4. I would like to hear why some reasons you prefer her, before I spend money on her. Thanks.

I find she poses easier than Vicky. And I like the face chips. They allow you to tweak the expressions to exactly what you want without needing to rely on morphs.

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-Weight map rigging

-No need for magnets for her rigging

-Facial rigging including controls inspired by modern animation techniques

-More realistic body proportions

-Modern materials

-Better limb bending without need of third-party improvements

-Current Poser technologies instead of using what was possible some 15 years ago

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Thank you both for the info.

Not many advantages at all, in my experiences with La Femme Pro2. I load La Femme Pro 2 figure, apply the La Femme Body Morphs Pro, the morph dials do nothing. I have really spend some time trying different things to figure this La Femme 2 Pro out but not really getting anywhere with this figure. Why don't the Pro 2 morph dials do anything?

That's odd. What version of Poser are you using? And are you sure you're using the right morphs for La Femme 2? The La Femme 1 morph pack won't work on La Femme 2.

The LF2 morphs are called BodyFX and have dials labeled BFX. Can you post a link to the morph pack you are using?

On further investigation...I think you may be using the LF 1 morph pack on LF2. The LF1 morph pack dials are called "Body Morphs Pro." If you inject them into LF2, the dials appear, but don't work.

I went and got the La Femme 2 BodyFX pack just now, installed and applied and it works great. An excellent set of morphs for the LF2 Pro figure! Thanks so much for dteering me in the right direction for this.

I went and got the La Femme 2 BodyFX pack just now, installed and applied and it works great. An excellent set of morphs for the LF2 Pro figure! Thanks so much for steering me in the right direction for this.

One other thing I'm noticing is that the La Femme 2 Pro offers only a scant few facial expressions, Of which really do not produce natural results. What might be missing here?

Have you tried using the face chips?

LF 2's face chips are hidden by default. You have to turn them on (via dials in the Body) to see them. The face chips are meant to create expressions.

It does take awhile to get used to them, if you're used to expression morphs, but they're a lot more versatile than morphs.

Though if someone made a nice pack of expressions, I'd probably buy it.

I did turn on the Expression controls in Body, but now where do I find the dials for the expressions? Still the only expression dials that appear are Brows up, Brows down, Smile soft and Smile wide.

You move the chips themselves to make your own expressions

I'm not good with them so I'm probably not the best to give an example, but you can at least get an idea of what can be done.

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generation2235 posted at 5:28 AM Thu, 4 January 2024 - #4479988

I did turn on the Expression controls in Body, but now where do I find the dials for the expressions? Still the only expression dials that appear are Brows up, Brows down, Smile soft and Smile wide.

Hi!

Look the Image:

So as I understand, you have to click and drag the 'Chip' area to position in order to achieve desired expression. Is that correct?

generation2235 posted at 6:05 PM Thu, 4 January 2024 - #4480027

So as I understand, you have to click and drag the 'Chip' area to position in order to achieve desired expression. Is that correct?

Yes, or you can use the chips movement dials on the parameters pallet, like you would to move a body part.

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As randym77 said, If a facial expression pack became available I'd be inclined to get it for LF 2 Pro.

Again thank you, everyone for your assistance in this.

Since we're talking about expressions, I wanted to take a minute to draw attention to how important things like head tilt, eye and lid position are for the character's overall "expression".

Top left: LF2's resting "where are my glasses" face.

Top right: "Eyes Cross at -0.15 to make her see the camera.

Bottom left: "Open-Close" set to 3 for both upper eyelids - she's a bit more relaxed now that she can see us properly.

Bottom right: "Side-Side" at -5 and "Bend" at -3 for the head - active listening mode engaged.

-- I'm not mad at you, just Westphalian.

Bonus round: we've just asked her to recall the last time she had really good chocolate...

I'm also not great with the chips, or expressions in general, but maybe this gives a small impression of what can be done.

-- I'm not mad at you, just Westphalian.

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generation2235 posted at 7:01 PM Thu, 4 January 2024 - #4480033

As randym77 said, If a facial expression pack became available I'd be inclined to get it for LF 2 Pro.

I have one planned, but haven't started making it yet.

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generation2235 posted at 5:43 PM Wed, 3 January 2024 - #4479965

I went and got the La Femme 2 BodyFX pack just now, installed and applied and it works great. An excellent set of morphs for the LF2 Pro figure! Thanks so much for dteering me in the right direction for this.

I forgot to mention - if you want morphs for her face, there's the FaceFx pack as well. :)

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what's the best way to save an expression?

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jancory posted at 4:03 PM Fri, 5 January 2024 - #4480090

what's the best way to save an expression?

Save the scene as Pz3

jancory posted at 4:03 PM Fri, 5 January 2024 - #4480090

what's the best way to save an expression?

Good morning!
1. select LaFemme2
2. open the Expression section in the Library
3. choose a folder where the expression should go
4. click on the plus symbol at the bottom
5. in the now opened dialog you can enter a name
6. confirm the dialog with <OK> and you're done
7. if you only want certain parts of a facial expression you can select
another subset in the dialog with the <Select Subset> button.
open another window. There you can select and deselect individual chips and morphs.
switch them off

Greetings

thanks!  

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So I'm searching for expression references on Pinterest to try to make some for LF2. The thing is, most of those are for drawing.

If these turn out to be useless, at least I've had a good laugh LMAO

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LMAO, might end up making a "Comically Ridiculous expression set" HAHAHAH

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Someone stop me I'm having too much fun with this stupidity

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LOL, very cute! I don't mind silly expressions, as long as they look realistic, which I think these do. I'm hopeless with her face rig, much prefer Antonia's, which is perhaps no surprise seeing as I built it. :grin: Anyway, very much looking forward to your product.

As for references, I would try selfies. Imagine yourself being happy, angry, surprised, etc., and without trying to look it, take a photo, then see what happened with your face and whether it conveys the emotion you were going for. Then do another set of photos where you try to exaggerate that look. (Disclaimer: I'm not an actor or acting teacher, so this advice is probably complete rubbish.)

-- I'm not mad at you, just Westphalian.

It's actually good advice - I just intentionally went to the exagerated cartoon ones because I wanted to see how far I could push her :D

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I would love a set of exaggerated facial expressions.

Set of facial expression, exaggerated and otherwise would be very welcome. Maybe the exaggerated ones can be dialled back to make them look more realistic?

LapinDeFer posted at 5:22 AM Thu, 18 January 2024 - #4480497

Set of facial expression, exaggerated and otherwise would be very welcome. Maybe the exaggerated ones can be dialled back to make them look more realistic?

They're not a single dial - these are poses for her rigged face chips.

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On another note, I find that most of LF's face expressions work pretty well with LF2. I specially like these with her: https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/148224/lf-soft-expressions-and-more

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Here, examples of LF expressions on LF2, so you guys that want some expressions for the new gal already have some products available for you!

Some from Soft Expressions by Antje: 

Some from Up Close by DM: 

From what I can see, when using LF expressions on LF2, movements of her mouth get softer than originally intended, and frowns/sad faces make her lips still look a tad smiley.

And just for the heck of it, here are some LH expressions on LF2, from DM's Secret Dreams:

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release the set of silly expressions, please, Ohki!

drawn

drawn posted at 8:14 PM Wed, 13 March 2024 - #4482475

release the set of silly expressions, please, Ohki!

drawn

Haha! Might be a while, I've only made a few, and now I'm swamped with working on LH2.

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