Forum: Poser 12


Subject: Library Trouble

mdbruffy opened this issue on Apr 09, 2024 ยท 19 posts


mdbruffy posted Tue, 09 April 2024 at 4:36 PM

I went to bring up Poser Pro 2014 and I got a shock. It presented a library that I despise instead of the one I always use. Any help would be appreciated.



hborre posted Tue, 09 April 2024 at 5:09 PM

Open the panel below the window and uncheck Tree.



mdbruffy posted Tue, 09 April 2024 at 6:02 PM

I don't see a panel. Not with this white library showing.




hborre posted Tue, 09 April 2024 at 6:26 PM

You will need to undock it to see the 3 dots at the bottom.


mdbruffy posted Wed, 10 April 2024 at 2:44 PM

It won't undock, It just expands across the screen:




hborre posted Wed, 10 April 2024 at 3:02 PM

What happens when you click on the circles in the upper right corner?


nerd posted Wed, 10 April 2024 at 3:47 PM Forum Moderator

It's sort of a miracle this works at all. The library in P10(2014) requires Adobe Flash.They didn't just stop supporting it. Whenever Flash phoned home they actively killed it. Flash was literally killed and tossed in a burning dumpster by Adobe in 2020. There's no getting it back. That looks like some sort of 3rd party library replacement like p3Do.

If you have a 64 bit version of Poser installed and a 64 bit OS you can try the external library ... It uses Adobe Air which is now Samsung Air and is also waaaay past end of life. It will eventually stop working too.



mdbruffy posted Wed, 10 April 2024 at 5:07 PM

hborre posted at 3:02 PM Wed, 10 April 2024 - #4483443

What happens when you click on the circles in the upper right corner?

Just tried them. Nothing happened.



Backfire2024 posted Sun, 14 April 2024 at 4:11 AM

You seem to run a alternative Library version, I do not recall the name.

Resetting the Library try removing the folder C:\Users\Sample\AppData\Roaming\Poser Pro\10

Make a search in the Internet for Adobe Flash archives and find

"install_flash_player_11_active_x_64bit_11.2.202.235.exe" or bellow

These do not have the kill switch and will work with your local applications. best is to use the 11.2.202.235 version. after install all your older Poser versions will work just as supposed to.


mdbruffy posted Sun, 14 April 2024 at 7:22 AM

Got the install file but it wouldn't install. "We have retired Flash. Support for Flash ended December 31, 2020."

Where is that Sample folder at? I have 3 folders: Defualt, my name and Public. That's all that's showing.



Backfire2024 posted Sun, 14 April 2024 at 9:35 AM

Sample stands for your user name account :)


mdbruffy posted Sun, 14 April 2024 at 11:03 AM

Backfire2024 posted at 9:35 AM Sun, 14 April 2024 - #4483589

Sample stands for your user name account :)

I just looked again. There is no sample folder. Only the 3 I listed.I don't have a folder with my user name- just my name.

Found it. It WAS in the folder with my name on it.

It reset, but there's still a problem. It all comes back to Adobe Flash not working anymore.




nerd posted Sun, 14 April 2024 at 2:15 PM Forum Moderator

... and Flash will never work again. Thanks Adobe. So, unless you have a time machine to go back before 2020 you're probably out of luck. That's why I said it was a miracle it was doing any thing, If you want a normal library you'll have to update Poser to a Post-Flash version. Poser 11 and up

The only other solution I know is the p3do library system. It runs in a separate window and is a windows native app so no flash nonsense. But, it definitely doesn't look anything like Posers normal library.


mdbruffy posted Sun, 14 April 2024 at 4:31 PM

nerd posted at 2:15 PM Sun, 14 April 2024 - #4483594

... and Flash will never work again. Thanks Adobe. So, unless you have a time machine to go back before 2020 you're probably out of luck. That's why I said it was a miracle it was doing any thing, If you want a normal library you'll have to update Poser to a Post-Flash version. Poser 11 and up

The only other solution I know is the p3do library system. It runs in a separate window and is a windows native app so no flash nonsense. But, it definitely doesn't look anything like Posers normal library.

I had reinstalled Poser Pro because it was the last version to have Wardrobe Wizard. Poser should have bought Phic out when he retired instead of pulling the app out. Now we're stuck with Poser 12 and up and their lousy conversion app.



hborre posted Sun, 14 April 2024 at 6:03 PM

Purchasing PhilC's program would have resulted in a loss of customer support for us. Given that he has passed away, this support would no longer be available.


mdbruffy posted Sun, 14 April 2024 at 6:15 PM

hborre posted at 6:03 PM Sun, 14 April 2024 - #4483600

Purchasing PhilC's program would have resulted in a loss of customer support for us. Given that he has passed away, this support would no longer be available.

how do you get that? If Poser had bought the program, they would have had all the necessary files to handle things- including support and updating.



Backfire2024 posted Mon, 15 April 2024 at 2:01 AM

Reinstalling an older flash version should actually work, it worked for me on all machines. Win Updates do not remove it no Time machine needed , as alternative you can also use " Adobe AIR, with settings to external Library ".



mdbruffy posted Mon, 15 April 2024 at 3:59 AM

Backfire2024 posted at 2:01 AM Mon, 15 April 2024 - #4483608

Reinstalling an older flash version should actually work, it worked for me on all machines. Win Updates do not remove it no Time machine needed , as alternative you can also use " Adobe AIR, with settings to external Library ".

Well, it didn't work on mine. I went ahead and removed it. deleted the files and all. This is the kind of relationship I've always had with Poser. Some versions work for me and others don't. I had the external library in place, but I wasn't happy with it. Whenever I tried to do anything, it disappeared till I was done. I'll jjust have to gowith Poser 12 and hope I never have to convert any more outfits.




RedPhantom posted Mon, 15 April 2024 at 6:50 AM Site Admin

An alternative. Keep Poser 2014 on there. Use Poser 12 for making images and only use 2014 if you need to use wardrobe wizard.


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