Forum: Poser 13


Subject: Render Problem with The Factory by Powerage

VedaDalsette opened this issue on Nov 06, 2024 ยท 6 posts


VedaDalsette posted Wed, 06 November 2024 at 2:47 PM

I don't think I've ever had this problem before. I purchased Powerage's The Factory and Superfly-rendered some of the included camera shots. It seems on every shot I'm unable to render the whole image. It displays fine in preview.

Here's a Preview preset rendered image.

Here's an Optix Medium preset rendered image.

Here's a GPU Fast preset rendered image.


 It doesn't seem to matter if I click or unclick Progressive Refinement or Use Cache. Here are the preset settings for the 3 renders.


I get the same results with a CPU Fast preset render.

Here are my render preferences.


It's a large prop (525973 polys, 493495 verts), but I've rendered props this large before. Do I not have enough graphics power in my computer to handle it?

W11,Intel i9-14900KF @ 3.20GHz, 64.0 GB RAM, 64-bit, GeForce GTX 4070 Ti SUPER, 16GB.

I can't find anything in the prop that's not Visible in Camera. Materials look okay. I clear the cache before I load it. Any idea what might be wrong? (I realize I can break it up into sections, but I'd rather not if I don't have to.) Thanks.



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RedPhantom posted Wed, 06 November 2024 at 3:20 PM Site Admin

are you getting any errors in your message log?


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VedaDalsette posted Wed, 06 November 2024 at 4:27 PM

Duh! I didn't even think to look there. Thanks.

Just ran it again. Here's the error log. It's like it simply doesn't want to render this prop!

17:23:27 - Info: Your effective UI Scale factor is 1.00
17:23:46 - Application commands: Load library prop
17:24:00 - Application commands: Parameter changed
17:24:31 - Application commands: Load library camera
17:24:44 - Analytics: Recording event for Size:1519x1100
17:24:44 - Analytics: Starting timer for Render:SuperFly
17:24:46 - SuperFly: Start rendering on device NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER.
17:24:50 - SuperFly: Rendering time: 3.67 seconds.
17:24:50 - SuperFly: Rendering memory: 1993 MB.
17:24:50 - Analytics: Ending timer for Render:SuperFly

The image is still the same as noted in my original post. I also tried rendering in Poser 11. Same nonsense.

It rendered okay in Firefly.

17:33:44 - Analytics: Recording event for Size:750x750
17:33:44 - Analytics: Starting timer for Render:FireFly
17:33:55 - Firefly: Number of REYES objects: 603630
17:33:55 - Firefly: Number of micropolygons created: 1505343
17:33:55 - Firefly: Number of raytracing objects: 983679
17:33:55 - Firefly: Number of rays traced: 16596886
17:33:55 - Firefly: Number of irradiance cache entries: 0
17:33:55 - Firefly: Number of occlusion cache entries: 0
17:33:55 - Firefly: Number of primary rays: 379252
17:33:55 - Firefly: Number of secondary rays: 0
17:33:55 - Firefly: Number of shadow rays: 16217634
17:33:55 - Firefly: Number of ambient occlusion rays: 0
17:33:55 - Firefly: Number of texture lookups: 5548926
17:33:55 - Firefly: Rendering time: 3.74 seconds.
17:33:55 - Analytics: Ending timer for Render:FireFly
17:34:11 - Analytics: Recording event for Export:PNG



W11,Intel i9-14900KF @ 3.20GHz, 64.0 GB RAM, 64-bit, GeForce GTX 4070 Ti SUPER, 16GB. 

Old lady hobbyist.

All visual art or fiction is "playing with dolls."


hborre posted Wed, 06 November 2024 at 6:46 PM

It could be the camera's hither and/or yon settings that are off, especially if they are included with the set.


ChromeStar posted Wed, 06 November 2024 at 7:23 PM Online Now!

It looks like Hither to me. It's like everything closer than a plane perpendicular to the camera is getting cut off, and everything further than that is being rendered. The only odd thing is that the preview should reflect that setting too. (But maybe it doesn't correspond properly if the camera's scale isn't 100%?)



VedaDalsette posted Thu, 07 November 2024 at 8:30 AM

Thank you, ChromeStar, hborre, and RedPhantom. It was definitely the hither. I know to increase the yon when I can't see my distant background, but I've never touched the hither before. Seems the Main Camera default hither is set to .8. Powerage used this camera for the prop's camera shots. The one I selected to show you had the hither set to 64. I lowered the hither and got the shot! Thanks for the hither lesson!!! Now, I'll just update all those camera shots.



W11,Intel i9-14900KF @ 3.20GHz, 64.0 GB RAM, 64-bit, GeForce GTX 4070 Ti SUPER, 16GB. 

Old lady hobbyist.

All visual art or fiction is "playing with dolls."