Hi guys.

I am "rookie".

Maybe this is a weird question what I want to know.

I have Poser 13.I just wondering when I do rendering (2560x1440) which card is better?

Rtx 4060Ti 16GB or Rtx 4070 Super 12GB?

I know the RAM also important but I do not know exactly 12GB is enough for 1440......or I get "bottleneck".

Thank you for your helping.

The issue you'd have to look at isn't so much the size of your image as the amount of stuff in your scene. If you do a lot of crowd scenes, you'll want more ram. If you usually do one or two figures, either would probably be fine.

I have 2060 12GB and usually can do about 10 figures.

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To give you an idea: at the time (2021) I had an RTX 2080 Ti with 11Gb of RAM: 13 Vic4, the card refused the 14th: too many elements to manage.

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Choosing the right render engine for your final image, be it Firefly or Superfly, is crucial. While you've received suggestions from previous posts, the type of content you're using, the currency of the Material Room shaders, and the density of the scene's population remain unknown.

The 4070 Super has far more cores than the 4060 TI has, and is much faster.

That will show up with everything that uses it... Literally....

If you can afford the 4070 super, I would not waste the money on 4060ti for the 4 gig of memory you may never fill up anyway..... 

If you render using Optix in Superfly, the 4070 Super will be superior to the 4060. And not by a little bit either, far faster...

Probably twice as fast, if not faster, just from the massive difference in Cuda, Tensor, and Raytracing core count difference.........  

The 4070 Super has 224 Tensor cores, the 4060ti has 136, that is a big difference.... Raytracing is 56 to 34, not that much, but enough to see a difference....

Cuda is 7168 to 4352, which is a huge difference.

My advise, buy the far faster and superior card.... 

I render on a 4070ti with 12 gig, and I have to pack a scene to run out of memory..... Most renders never get to 12gig, so why use a much slower card?

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Get the 4070. I have the 4070 Ti and I haven't had anything that even slowed it down significantly for Superfly. I used some benchmark scenes from the freebies here when we built this computer and I was absolutely flabbergasted by the difference between my old one and this. As in, complex scenes now take minutes.

Same opinion: I've replaced my aging 2080Ti by a 4070 OC, which consumes less watts and is at least twice as fast, sometimes three times.

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This thread is very helpful. :)

Is there a difference between 4070 ti and 4070 Co? 

I am close to get a new computer and don't know which card I should get. I wanted to buy a 4070.

thanks :)

The first design 4070 Ti is discontinued. The 4070 Ti Super is the closest thing to it that you will find new now.

The standard 4070 is a slower card than either Ti design of the 4070 Ti, even if it is an overclocked version.

The base and boost clock speeds are different, and that affects speed. The standard 4070 is about 1900-2450mhz, the 4070 Ti Super is about 2300-2700

All RTX cards self overclock, that is just how they work. So just because one says OC on the box, that might not mean much at the end of the day.

OC usually means the base clock is raised, and they rarely run there at all anyway... Clock speeds are based on temperature of the die, and the die in the gpu isn't hot at the base clock it wont stay at.... IE, it is basically a meaning less number for advertising... Boost clock is where it matters the most, and the standard 4070 can't raise the clock as high as it bigger brothers by default. That 200-300+ mhz no matter what the GPU temp is, makes a difference. So do the differences in core counts within the GPU.

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holy cow.... I had no idea about all this stuff 😅

Ok this is the card I was choosing:

MSI GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16G GAMING X SLIM

do you mean it is suitable for rendering smooth and fast? (at moment I can't render with GPU and superfly often need 6 to 8 hours)

Most of the renders in my store took less then 5 min, some as quick as a 1 min. (depends on a lot of factors, especially transparency layers, atmosphere, etc)

The difference in time taken to render between cpu render and gpu renders in Superfly, is massive...

You won't be disappointed with a 4070 Ti Super

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Thank you very much for your answer 😀  I can't wait to get this new computer 😅

shvrdavid posted at 5:31 PM Wed, 20 November 2024 - #4491523

Most of the renders in my store took less then 5 min, some as quick as a 1 min. (depends on a lot of factors, especially transparency layers, atmosphere, etc)

The difference in time taken to render between cpu render and gpu renders in Superfly, is massive...

You won't be disappointed with a 4070 Ti Super

I just brought home my new computer build and I have the 4070 Ti Super.  I'm wondering if there is anything in the Nvidia control panel that I need to go in and adjust to get the most out of the GPU ?  I've been looking but there is very little info about tweaking for rendering, plenty for gaming though.  Any help or info would be totally appreciated.  I just purchased Poser 13 (my 9th purchase of Poser LOL!! Been around a while) and I'm really wanting to get into it, but wanted to set up the GPU first.

Thanks!

I honestly just went with as is and I never had to bother with adjustments. Poser 13 is lighting fast with that video card.

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I have a 4070Ti. I don't think I did anything special for setup. BUT ... in the Render Settings dialog under SuperFly there are rendering presets (click the Load Preset button and you should see them listed). I usually do final renders with OptiX High (there's also an Ultra Caustics setting but since I typically do portraits I rarely need that). You'll see lots of little "fireflies" and noise with the lower default settings. The high preset takes care of that.

LadyElf posted at 11:29 AM Tue, 3 December 2024 - #4491869

I just brought home my new computer build and I have the 4070 Ti Super.  I'm wondering if there is anything in the Nvidia control panel that I need to go in and adjust to get the most out of the GPU ?  

For rendering the only setting you really need to change is to make sure power management in set to Prefer Maximum Performance.

And if and when you upgrade the drivers for the GPU, force a clean install in the custom settings of the driver installer....

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I got a new computer this year with Nvidia RTX 4070Ti Super, 16GB, and I use OptiX High. I render scenes now in a blink! Every day, I do my Windows, antivirus, and driver updates (along with scans and general cleaning up). I go right to Nvidia for the GPU driver updates.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/

They usually update Studio drivers once a month or so. Game Ready drivers are updated more often. It took me years to realize some of the problems I had in Poser was because my driver needed updating, so now I'm religious about it.

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