Hey folks, I'm Serge the Max Forum Mod. I've attempted a couple of times before but I have failed. I am trying to get rid of my copy of Carrara (box and book included). I know all this madness is going around with Eovia, but Carrara originally went for $300 and If you want it you've got it for $160 + S&H the way you wish for it shipped. I am running MaxR4 and that is all I need for 3D package untill December that is, for I'll be picking up Maya so I can learn that also. Anyway, P.S. let me know and P.S. post the message that you want the prog here as a reply. First come first Serve, I do not wish for tons of folks to IM me. LOL and Peace Serge PS- Must be located in the U.S. to purchase it from me