Hey all Well this is the last time im posting this until its renderd in ultra with the textures and lights. This took me about 45..50 hours to get this far,but im pleased with the way its turning out. The gargoyle was from 3dcafe,the wings are from the free stuff and i will find out who there by so they can have the credit,everything else was done by me in poser4 and amapi. Please let me know what you think as all comments are very welcome from other artists such as yourself,thanks in advance dolly