I have to tell all of you that w/o the great support and pointers from this group, coming to grips with Poser (and utilities associated with it) over the last several months would have been a lot more frustrating. With other apps, I've just usually gritted my teeth and spent months figuring them out, but I've been able to move along a lot faster with the help of this forum. Its also great fun to be associated with PF-there seem to always be ups and downs to this group, but in the end it goes back to doing what it does best-working and creating with Poser and supporting others who are trying to improve their skills. I'm sure glad I found the forum before I had Poser, that I stuck with it long enough to make the decision to buy P4 and that I've stayed around here probably more than any other ng or forum I've been involved with over quite a number of years (but just found 3D graphics this late spring-a whole 'nother addiction LOL). My little excursion into UVMapper and the quick help I got are just one example of the (relatively-VBG) non-judgemental help and support I've gotten from this group. Knowledge and quick wits are the hallmarks of the group. Thanks again. Diane