Hello! Okay...I am excited, I see you CAN order v4 on-line... but has anyone GOTTEN their's yet? Or are the image posts and comments only from beta testers? I would like to know if 1)vue 4 will open vue 3 scenes and 2)If there IS a problem with vue 4 seeing/using the $100 vegitation bundle plants as long as I re-install (what a PAIN!) them from my zip? One of the major things I had hoped for in 4 is all NEW plants, added to the exisiting plants... but they are just "re-worked" plants?? (like that vue 3 tree with terrible segmented limbs?) Meanwhile, I have tried my first night and ocean scene: http://www.geocities.com/sjagh/boat.htm and I am working on my own (created from scratch, not the underwater atmosphere that comes with vue 3) underwater scene.. http://www.geocities.com/sjagh/underwip.htm Comments? Thanks! Sara