Hey, I was happy to show a nice new shot of the Grand Canyon I did, it was made with 24 30 meter DEM files and then saved as a .BMP and I tweaked the contrast in Photoshop to help out the results in Vue. Anyways, long story short, I started the rendering last night and when I woke up today I realized that Vue wasn't open and it never rendered the image! :( It happened to me a few times while rendering or using Vue...for no reason it quits without any warnings. I run win2k SP1 and it's rock stable in all applications from Photoshop to LightWave, it's loaded with 512Mb RAM on a rock solid PIII @815Mhz! :( ...I think I found the cause but I am not sure...one of win2k's services crashes a few times while loading and it might be when Vue was running. What is weird is that this service (PerfNet) started buzzing when I got Vue installed; I know they might not be related at all but it's weird. Cheers!