Help with joints Parameters The above image is of the waistcoat of the privateer I've been working on. I am having troubles with the collar/shoulder of this coat working as I would like. The image on the left is of the coat using a copy of the leotard.cr2 as a base, the right is using the catsuit.cr2. As can be seen there are these holes on the left chest and neck, but on the right the holes are gone but the collar has turned down following the invisible non physicaly connected shoulder, which is not what I want. I guess I would like the collar to follow the shoulder as it moves front to back and up. but not down. I just don't know how to do this. Can any one help? Lakota