okay; i been messing with this simple, five minute scene for a week. i cant get it the way i want. the spotlight might work if it didnt make that black circle. (and/or make the rest of the sky totally black outside the cone as well!) the point light is supposed to work fine, but it makes a lousy sun. so now i've gone on to trying to combine the sun with the point light. i STILL cant get thick beams like i want. if anybody thinks she/he can do this, let me know, i have the vue scene all zipped up and waitin for you to try it!