Well, I have to say, I never experienced such a chaotic withdrawl than you guys are showing here. Whatever the reason for all the fuzz may be (still not sure if I got it right), you successfully aranged that everybody is confused. So, just a little hint for the next time you run into trouble: Please set up the new site. Then move your stuff over there and reorganize it. Then inform your members (whos email adresses you have!) And then shut the old site down. But anyway, for those guys here who are / were running the poserforum: Thanks a lot for your work and effort! Phil