ello, you may remember me as putting up some animal textures on the board quite a while ago and the Ursula armour texture set for Vicky, the p3, and p4 fem in the freestuff downloads. Got a good one here that at least I've not seen any character free like it. The closest is a totally by scratch griffin character for sale by Lyne at: http://www.vistainternetproducts.com/ http://jelisa.criticaldepth.net/fignations/presets/characters.html Gryphon Character and 3 texture zip sets, 5 texture sets in all, though for the raven texture by Lyne that goes along with one, you will have to get at: http://www.3dmodelworld.com/ tried to keep zips as small as possible, icludes textures not easily found. Also a texture set for the Dragon Factory by Bloodsong: http://jelisa.critical-depth.net/fignations/presets/animals.html Drotweiler/Leathery Dragon Textures in two parts. For body and Legs 2, 2 tongue textures, 1 horse ear texture, head textures fits most heads, some need slight tweeking. Leg and body textures can be edited to fit the other sets. and if you've got any thoughts on the Gryph, improvements, better fitting morphs, read me info....ect contact me at: riggsj@ev1.net No obj's included, creation of new obj is up to user, had to keep the zips down and didn't want to have to send a mover incoded obj, since it really is the original obj, just renamed. The Read me has the details why it couldn't use the same obj though. If you want a lion or eagle in the same scene, the cr2 will probly have to be edited to point to a new obj. Its a error I've gotten in Poser where the second figure tries to mimic the first cr2, figure will either be missing same eparts as the Gryphon or will disapear altogether if created first. And when moving character, move the parent figure, the Lion. The Eagle is parented to its chest and the Eagle legs are parented to the Eagle's chest. gallery images of Characters,Gryphon,Drotweiler: http://jelisa.critical-depth.net/jbryce/img63.html http://jelisa.critical-depth.net/jbryce/img61.html img 61 N Please let me know what you think of the Gryphon. Enjoy!