All Vue 4 newbies should steer clear of the tutorial on page 263 of the manual ("Faking Distant Trees"). Or at least be in a very sedate mood if you're going to try it. It is frought with omissions that, without prior knowledge, make the tutorial impossible to complete. After about an hour and a half of trial and error (I thought I was back in Bryce), I think I figured them all out and completed the tut. But the look I got didn't look like what the book said it would! So maybe I didn't figure the whole thing out. If you insist on trying it and get stuck, lemme know. Maybe I can help. PS: The person who wrote that tutorial--the English version anyway--should be flogged.