ok i have tried thismany time & have had alot of u wonderfulpeople help me w/the the info in the past but still no luck. hey KenS maybe u can shed somelight on this. i downloaded a mailbox(the originalfiles is 3ds & has the "E" button beside it)i brought it up in bryce changed the color from gray to black & added a pic to the lid & the side of the mailbox. now my "modified" version doesnt have the E button beside it. is that because i modified it? then i went to the "Create" menu & saved "my" mailbox as an obp file. i brought the obp mailbox up & still no E button. is there anyway i can turn it into an obj file? i would like to upload the image here in renderosity. i think it looks really cool. ive got Dale Sr.'s #3 logo on the lid & the Dale Inc. logo on the side. If anyone can help i would really really appreciate it. thanx